I don't really like the NINTENDO WII

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#1 GirlDoer
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Bad performance: -the wii is not a powerful console and is incapable of producing good graphics, which really sucks for this generation - no HD! Appaling games: -Super Mario Galaxy, yeah, but the majority of the games are those of WII FIT, WII SPORTS, SSBB and such atrocious and uninteresting games. Distasteful online multiplayer: -played the wonderful XBL? then do this, Wii has an unbalanced Live with terrible community and awful design. Ugly console: -I don't really like the console, I think it doesn't look nice, I always borrow it when my ass is on vaccation! My opinion, I think Nintendo should discountinue the Wii and go something else, they obviously know nothing of gaming. Thougts?
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#2 RadecSupreme
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They know a lot about gaming but they just went for easy money and that is why their rep with gamers is bad.

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#3 MonsieurX
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Not everyone cares about graphics. SSBB,atrocious and uninteresting?
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#5 spinecaton
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The games are fun to me, so I don't care.

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#6 -Oath
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Thats nice.

I personally play my Wii more than I do my PS3 and 360.

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#7 GirlDoer
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No.

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#9 metroidfood
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I think Nintendo should discountinue the Wii and go something else, they obviously know nothing of gaming.GirlDoer

Btw, can PC do HD yet?

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#10 -Oath
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[QUOTE="-Oath"]

Thats nice.

I personally play my Wii more than I do my PS3 and 360.

GirlDoer

I take it you're a girl, then, because 10-years old don't spell so good. How did I do? :D

Im a 17 year old male, and the spelling in my post is fine.

Bye.

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#11 me_rock
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Discontinue the Wii? It makes them millions of dollars a day, would you do that if you were Nintendo?

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#12 3rdbass
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Well I agree that the WII is so last gen in what it gives you gaming wise the masses love it and sales do count.

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#13 GirlDoer
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Discontinue the Wii? It makes them millions of dollars a day, would you do that if you were Nintendo?

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Yes. I would think of the gamers.
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#14 meetroid8
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You're coming a bit late to the party, huh?
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You are a 100% correct Tc! Here is a link that can show you how you can pwn them even more.

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#16 VendettaRed07
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Yeah it sucks for hardcore nintendo fans.. but Its good for what it is, and what it is, is a console thats not competing with the ps3 or 360. Hopefully next gen that changes. Because nintendo could take their franchises to the next level. Its not just about graphics, its that the gameplay types are more limited on the wii than on the 360

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#17 djsifer01
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I hate the nintendo Wii, im with you TC.
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#18 MangaJ
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I personally think the wii is pretty dumb and barely has a handful of good games. But I think it's great for families and kids and people who also have one of the good systems.

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#19 GirlDoer
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I personally think the wii is pretty dumb and barely has a handful of good games. But I think it's great for families and kids and people who also have one of the good systems.

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But should Nintendo not give a crap about the hardcore fans?
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I think Nintendo should discountinue the Wii and go something else, they obviously know nothing of gaming. Thougts?GirlDoer

Wow, you have to be about 10 or 11. And I saw your post about someones typing, though it was perfectly fine. Look at this quote. You fail

Nintendo saved the gaming industry. In the 80's the gaming industry crashed, and guess who was the savior? Not SONY, or Microsoft, a little company called Nintendo. SONY and M$ weren't even in the gaming industry yet. Nintendo knows more about gaming than Microsoft and Sony combined. They are the king of the gaming market, both console and handheld. All of their consoles are great, your just a fanboy.

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#21 MangaJ
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[QUOTE="GirlDoer"] I think Nintendo should discountinue the Wii and go something else, they obviously know nothing of gaming. Thougts?randomwiiplayer

Wow, you have to be about 10 or 11. And I saw your post about someones typing, though it was perfectly fine. Look at this quote. You fail

Nintendo saved the gaming industry. In the 80's the gaming industry crashed, and guess who was the savior? Not SONY, or Microsoft, a little company called Nintendo. SONY and M$ weren't even in the gaming industry yet. Nintendo knows more about gaming than Microsoft and Sony combined. They are the king of the gaming market, both console and handheld. All of their consoles are great, your just a fanboy.

Not to butt in here, but it sounds like you're the fanboy. I don't care how large a company's profit margin is. The simple fact is that the wii doesn't have a lot of good games when looked at in the same context as the heavy hitters on 360 and ps3, and it objectively lacks the power of the other two systems. It's as if the wii isn't even trying to compete as a gaming machine. And that's fine. But don't go telling me that the wii is a better gaming system than the 360 or ps3. That's just false.

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[QUOTE="GirlDoer"] I think Nintendo should discountinue the Wii and go something else, they obviously know nothing of gaming. Thougts?randomwiiplayer

Wow, you have to be about 10 or 11. And I saw your post about someones typing, though it was perfectly fine. Look at this quote. You fail

Nintendo saved the gaming industry. In the 80's the gaming industry crashed, and guess who was the savior? Not SONY, or Microsoft, a little company called Nintendo. SONY and M$ weren't even in the gaming industry yet. Nintendo knows more about gaming than Microsoft and Sony combined. They are the king of the gaming market, both console and handheld. All of their consoles are great, your just a fanboy.

You sound like a much bigger Fanboy... Nintendo is doing very well in sales, but King of Console's and Handhelds? Just no... I can't believe half the games sell how they do for it... all I see is Shovelware...
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#24 randomwiiplayer
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[QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]

[QUOTE="GirlDoer"] I think Nintendo should discountinue the Wii and go something else, they obviously know nothing of gaming. Thougts?MangaJugs

Wow, you have to be about 10 or 11. And I saw your post about someones typing, though it was perfectly fine. Look at this quote. You fail

Nintendo saved the gaming industry. In the 80's the gaming industry crashed, and guess who was the savior? Not SONY, or Microsoft, a little company called Nintendo. SONY and M$ weren't even in the gaming industry yet. Nintendo knows more about gaming than Microsoft and Sony combined. They are the king of the gaming market, both console and handheld. All of their consoles are great, your just a fanboy.

Not to butt in here, but it sounds like you're the fanboy. I don't care how large a company's profit margin is. The simple fact is that the wii doesn't have a lot of good games when looked at in the same context as the heavy hitters on 360 and ps3, and it objectively lacks the power of the other two systems. It's as if the wii isn't even trying to compete as a gaming machine. And that's fine. But don't go telling me that the wii is a better gaming system than the 360 or ps3. That's just false.

1.I'm not the fanboy, he just needs to get his facts straght

2.You don't understand. The Wii isn't aiming at the same audience as the PS3 and 360. It is aiming at more than that. It does have some "hardcore" games on it, but it is loaded with shovelware also. It isn't false, it is an opinion. Nintendo even said that it isn't aiming at the same audience. This is Nintendo's worst gen game-wise, but that doesn't mean that everything they make sucks.

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#25 randomwiiplayer
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[QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]

[QUOTE="GirlDoer"] I think Nintendo should discountinue the Wii and go something else, they obviously know nothing of gaming. Thougts?W1ckedGo0se

Wow, you have to be about 10 or 11. And I saw your post about someones typing, though it was perfectly fine. Look at this quote. You fail

Nintendo saved the gaming industry. In the 80's the gaming industry crashed, and guess who was the savior? Not SONY, or Microsoft, a little company called Nintendo. SONY and M$ weren't even in the gaming industry yet. Nintendo knows more about gaming than Microsoft and Sony combined. They are the king of the gaming market, both console and handheld. All of their consoles are great, your just a fanboy.

You sound like a much bigger Fanboy... Nintendo is doing very well in sales, but King of Console's and Handhelds? Just no... I can't believe half the games sell how they do for it... all I see is Shovelware...

There is more than shovelware, but it is flooded with it. The Gameboy is better than the PSP, and so is the DS. SNES, NES, N64, those are all great consoles, even the Gamecube belongs on the list. I am not saying that the other companies suck, I like SONY a lot, but they can't compete with Nintendo.

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That's cool, whatever floats your boat.
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#27 Fried_Shrimp
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Get better games then. No More Heroes 2: Desporate Struggle will be out next year. I'm more hyped for that than anything Nintendo are bringing out.

I just got electricuted by mr bison.

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[QUOTE="W1ckedGo0se"][QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]

Wow, you have to be about 10 or 11. And I saw your post about someones typing, though it was perfectly fine. Look at this quote. You fail

Nintendo saved the gaming industry. In the 80's the gaming industry crashed, and guess who was the savior? Not SONY, or Microsoft, a little company called Nintendo. SONY and M$ weren't even in the gaming industry yet. Nintendo knows more about gaming than Microsoft and Sony combined. They are the king of the gaming market, both console and handheld. All of their consoles are great, your just a fanboy.

randomwiiplayer

You sound like a much bigger Fanboy... Nintendo is doing very well in sales, but King of Console's and Handhelds? Just no... I can't believe half the games sell how they do for it... all I see is Shovelware...

There is more than shovelware, but it is flooded with it. The Gameboy is better than the PSP, and so is the DS. SNES, NES, N64, those are all great consoles, even the Gamecube belongs on the list. I am not saying that the other companies suck, I like SONY a lot, but they can't compete with Nintendo.

The PSP is a great System... Look at Final Fantasy Tactics the War of the Lion, Crisis Core: Final Fantasy 7, Disgaea 2 Dark Hero Days, Resistance Retribution, Dissidia, Socom Fireteambravo, Prinny Can I really Be the Hero... Most of these games are not comparable to DS and Gameboy because they have Great Graphics (DS can't compare to Crisis Core at all Graphics Wise), Great Gameplay and Great Story
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#29 Fried_Shrimp
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[QUOTE="-Oath"]

Thats nice.

I personally play my Wii more than I do my PS3 and 360.

NinjaOmega

How old are you?

Age has nothing to do with it. I'm closer to 30 than I am 20, and I enjoy Wii more than Xbox360.

Don't have a PS3 so I can't comment on that one.

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#30 randomwiiplayer
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[QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]

[QUOTE="W1ckedGo0se"] You sound like a much bigger Fanboy... Nintendo is doing very well in sales, but King of Console's and Handhelds? Just no... I can't believe half the games sell how they do for it... all I see is Shovelware... W1ckedGo0se

There is more than shovelware, but it is flooded with it. The Gameboy is better than the PSP, and so is the DS. SNES, NES, N64, those are all great consoles, even the Gamecube belongs on the list. I am not saying that the other companies suck, I like SONY a lot, but they can't compete with Nintendo.

The PSP is a great System... Look at Final Fantasy Tactics the War of the Lion, Crisis Core: Final Fantasy 7, Disgaea 2 Dark Hero Days, Resistance Retribution, Dissidia, Socom Fireteambravo, Prinny Can I really Be the Hero... Most of these games are not comparable to DS and Gameboy because they have Great Graphics (DS can't compare to Crisis Core at all Graphics Wise), Great Gameplay and Great Story

You can't compare the Gameboy's graphics to the PSP, that is just stupid. And your saying that the Gameboy and DS have no games that have great gameplay and stories? That is very stupid as well. Pokemon (original ones) have great gameplay, and all of them have the same gameplay formula. NSMB has great gameplay also. Like I said, I don't hate or dislike Sony, but they don't compare to Nintendo. Sony makes amazing systems, they have great games, and they sell well, but I just prefer Nintendo over them.

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#31 ZookGuy
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You don't like the Wii, neither do 3/4 of the people on this board either!
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#32 -Oath
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[QUOTE="-Oath"]

Thats nice.

I personally play my Wii more than I do my PS3 and 360.

NinjaOmega

How old are you?

What does age have to do with anything?

I know 15-25 year olds who have all 3 systems and play their Wii the most.

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#34 -Oath
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Wii is not made for gamers and that is a fact evryone knows this already except blind sheeps who hype the same mario for years...Syferonik

False. Ive been a gamer since 1995 and have had every mainstream system since the Nes and I play my Wii more than my PS3 or 360.

Nice try though.

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Bad performance: -the wii is not a powerful console and is incapable of producing good graphics, which really sucks for this generation - no HD! Appaling games: -Super Mario Galaxy, yeah, but the majority of the games are those of WII FIT, WII SPORTS, SSBB and such atrocious and uninteresting games. Distasteful online multiplayer: -played the wonderful XBL? then do this, Wii has an unbalanced Live with terrible community and awful design. Ugly console: -I don't really like the console, I think it doesn't look nice, I always borrow it when my ass is on vaccation! My opinion, I think Nintendo should discountinue the Wii and go something else, they obviously know nothing of gaming. Thougts?GirlDoer
Ugly? no its not. But it does look like my modem i am using LOL

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[QUOTE="Syferonik"]Wii is not made for gamers and that is a fact evryone knows this already except blind sheeps who hype the same mario for years...-Oath

False. Ive been a gamer since 1995 and have had every mainstream system since the Nes and I play my Wii more than my PS3 or 360.

Nice try though.

The Wii is a big joke compared to evry single (yes even GC) Nintendo system released befor it and you know this so not sure why i am even telling you this.....and come on ya playing Wii more than the other 2 for wut kind of games? SMG/Zelda/Metroid as evry sheep answering? didn't you finished thos 2 years ago? ps3,360>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wii for its online ALONE.

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#37 genfactor
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[QUOTE="-Oath"]

Thats nice.

I personally play my Wii more than I do my PS3 and 360.

NinjaOmega

How old are you?

What does age have to do with anything?!

I'm over 30 and play my Wii more than my 360.

Actually, since I bought Persona 3 FES and Persona 4, I've been playing my PS2 more than both of them.

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We understand, now go back to bed.
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#39 -Oath
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[QUOTE="-Oath"]

[QUOTE="Syferonik"]Wii is not made for gamers and that is a fact evryone knows this already except blind sheeps who hype the same mario for years...Syferonik

False. Ive been a gamer since 1995 and have had every mainstream system since the Nes and I play my Wii more than my PS3 or 360.

Nice try though.

The Wii is a big joke compared to evry single (yes even GC) Nintendo system released befor it and you know this so not sure why i am even telling you this.....and come on ya playing Wii more than the other 2 for wut kind of games? SMG/Zelda/Metroid as evry sheep answering? didn't you finished thos 2 years ago? ps3,360>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wii for its online ALONE.

You dont understand how ignorant you sound. Have you ever given the Wii a fair chance or are you one of the dozens of people here just blindly bash the Wii. The Wii has a bunch of quality games, you cant deny it, but it probably has games that dont interest you if anything. Personally I have owned over 60 Wii games and enjoyed most of them, Im currently working on Boom Blox 2, Monster Hunter 3 and Muramasa. Saying the Wii has just Mario/Zelda/Metroid is pretty pathetic to say the least.

You may be entitled to your opinion, but with all due respect, it sucks.

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The Wii is a big joke compared to evry single (yes even GC) Nintendo system released befor it and you know this so not sure why i am even telling you this.....and come on ya playing Wii more than the other 2 for wut kind of games? SMG/Zelda/Metroid as evry sheep answering? didn't you finished thos 2 years ago? ps3,360>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wii for its online ALONE.

Syferonik

How is the Wii a joke? Last time I checked, I buy a game console to play fun games, and the Wii delivers me that.

SMG, Zelda, Metroid, yes. At the moment mostly Mario Kart and Brawl. Recently bought House of the Dead: Overkill, and am looking forward to NSMB Wii and FF: Crystal Bearers.

As for online, I tend to detest it for killing off local multiplayer on the HD Twins. As an option, online multiplayer is good, but local multiplayer is the heart of gaming at least for me.

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When did SSBB become uninteresting and attrocious?

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#42 psn8214
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The games are fun to me, so I don't care.

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Agreed. The Wii gets way too much hate.

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http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27038122

Sorry Lems and Cows.

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[QUOTE="NinjaOmega"]

[QUOTE="-Oath"]

Thats nice.

I personally play my Wii more than I do my PS3 and 360.

Fried_Shrimp

How old are you?

Age has nothing to do with it. I'm closer to 30 than I am 20, and I enjoy Wii more than Xbox360.

Don't have a PS3 so I can't comment on that one.

Well nintendo doesn't only target toddlers remember, they target grandmas and grandpas too :P

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[QUOTE="Syferonik"]

[QUOTE="-Oath"]

False. Ive been a gamer since 1995 and have had every mainstream system since the Nes and I play my Wii more than my PS3 or 360.

Nice try though.

-Oath

The Wii is a big joke compared to evry single (yes even GC) Nintendo system released befor it and you know this so not sure why i am even telling you this.....and come on ya playing Wii more than the other 2 for wut kind of games? SMG/Zelda/Metroid as evry sheep answering? didn't you finished thos 2 years ago? ps3,360>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wii for its online ALONE.

You dont understand how ignorant you sound. Have you ever given the Wii a fair chance or are you one of the dozens of people here just blindly bash the Wii. The Wii has a bunch of quality games, you cant deny it, but it probably has games that dont interest you if anything. Personally I have owned over 60 Wii games and enjoyed most of them, Im currently working on Boom Blox 2, Monster Hunter 3 and Muramasa. Saying the Wii has just Mario/Zelda/Metroid is pretty pathetic to say the least.

You may be entitled to your opinion, but with all due respect, it sucks.

Well said. Madworld is my favorite Wii game.
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#46 Syferonik
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[QUOTE="Syferonik"]

[QUOTE="-Oath"]

False. Ive been a gamer since 1995 and have had every mainstream system since the Nes and I play my Wii more than my PS3 or 360.

Nice try though.

-Oath

The Wii is a big joke compared to evry single (yes even GC) Nintendo system released befor it and you know this so not sure why i am even telling you this.....and come on ya playing Wii more than the other 2 for wut kind of games? SMG/Zelda/Metroid as evry sheep answering? didn't you finished thos 2 years ago? ps3,360>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wii for its online ALONE.

You dont understand how ignorant you sound. Have you ever given the Wii a fair chance or are you one of the dozens of people here just blindly bash the Wii. The Wii has a bunch of quality games, you cant deny it, but it probably has games that dont interest you if anything. Personally I have owned over 60 Wii games and enjoyed most of them, Im currently working on Boom Blox 2, Monster Hunter 3 and Muramasa. Saying the Wii has just Mario/Zelda/Metroid is pretty pathetic to say the least.

You may be entitled to your opinion, but with all due respect, it sucks.

I have couple of friends who own a Wii soyes and i played pretty much evry BIG hit and you know wut? they all looks and plays last gen and by that i am not talking about graphics but the rest aswell....bad AI in evry game, pretty much never good physics, looks uglyer on HDTV than SDTV since its way easyer to notice ugly textures and jaggies and the most importantly ONLINE. You buy a game on ps3/360 and you know it worth it since when you are done with single player there is always a multiplayer in 99% of games and that is not the case on Wii+ even those games who do support online its laggy with its friend codes is just a LOL. If you rly like your Wii more than the other two then good 4 u but the fact stand still that the Wii is the worst Nintendo made system by faaaaar.


btw yes MH3 looks good and i am sure is a great game but that is the only game i would buy if i had a Wii for the whole year of 2010

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#47 ActicEdge
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This thread is original. Why did you need to share this with us again?

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[QUOTE="-Oath"]

[QUOTE="Syferonik"]The Wii is a big joke compared to evry single (yes even GC) Nintendo system released befor it and you know this so not sure why i am even telling you this.....and come on ya playing Wii more than the other 2 for wut kind of games? SMG/Zelda/Metroid as evry sheep answering? didn't you finished thos 2 years ago? ps3,360>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Wii for its online ALONE.

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You dont understand how ignorant you sound. Have you ever given the Wii a fair chance or are you one of the dozens of people here just blindly bash the Wii. The Wii has a bunch of quality games, you cant deny it, but it probably has games that dont interest you if anything. Personally I have owned over 60 Wii games and enjoyed most of them, Im currently working on Boom Blox 2, Monster Hunter 3 and Muramasa. Saying the Wii has just Mario/Zelda/Metroid is pretty pathetic to say the least.

You may be entitled to your opinion, but with all due respect, it sucks.

Well said. Madworld is my favorite Wii game.

You like short broken games with no real multiplayer?

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[QUOTE="cainetao11"][QUOTE="-Oath"]

You dont understand how ignorant you sound. Have you ever given the Wii a fair chance or are you one of the dozens of people here just blindly bash the Wii. The Wii has a bunch of quality games, you cant deny it, but it probably has games that dont interest you if anything. Personally I have owned over 60 Wii games and enjoyed most of them, Im currently working on Boom Blox 2, Monster Hunter 3 and Muramasa. Saying the Wii has just Mario/Zelda/Metroid is pretty pathetic to say the least.

You may be entitled to your opinion, but with all due respect, it sucks.

Syferonik

Well said. Madworld is my favorite Wii game.

You like short broken games with no real multiplayer?

Says the guy with the heavenly sword avatar, oh the irony.

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[QUOTE="cainetao11"][QUOTE="-Oath"]

You dont understand how ignorant you sound. Have you ever given the Wii a fair chance or are you one of the dozens of people here just blindly bash the Wii. The Wii has a bunch of quality games, you cant deny it, but it probably has games that dont interest you if anything. Personally I have owned over 60 Wii games and enjoyed most of them, Im currently working on Boom Blox 2, Monster Hunter 3 and Muramasa. Saying the Wii has just Mario/Zelda/Metroid is pretty pathetic to say the least.

You may be entitled to your opinion, but with all due respect, it sucks.

Syferonik

Well said. Madworld is my favorite Wii game.

You like short broken games with no real multiplayer?

Multiplayer doesn't make a good game. Short games can still be great (GoW, Contra etc).

It's nice to know that so many here don't like the Wii. And the rest of us who play great games on the Wii really do care. :roll: