I don't see the hype behind Heavy Rain and Killzone 2.

Yes, they both have incredible graphics. Absolutely stunning.

But explain to me what innovations or special features they have going for them.

Killzone 2 seems to be a generic FPS with ridiculous and over-the-top motion blur and effects.

Heavy Rain seems to be a strange QTE and semi-on rails thing. It looks like it has very boring gameplay.

I'm open minded here, so don't flame, I'm actually curious: what do these games have going for them in the gameplay department?

Yes, they both have incredible graphics. Absolutely stunning.

But explain to me what innovations or special features they have going for them.

Killzone 2 seems to be a generic FPS with ridiculous and over-the-top motion blur and effects.

Heavy Rain seems to be a strange QTE and semi-on rails thing. It looks like it has very boring gameplay.

I'm open minded here, so don't flame, I'm actually curious: what do these games have going for them in the gameplay department?

awsss

everything doesn't have to innovate:(

Yes, they both have incredible graphics. Absolutely stunning.

But explain to me what innovations or special features they have going for them.

Killzone 2 seems to be a generic FPS with ridiculous and over-the-top motion blur and effects.

Heavy Rain seems to be a strange QTE and semi-on rails thing. It looks like it has very boring gameplay.

I'm open minded here, so don't flame, I'm actually curious: what do these games have going for them in the gameplay department?

awsss

There's the source of the initial hype. But after the KZ2 beta the hype stems from gameplay.

[QUOTE="awsss"]

Yes, they both have incredible graphics. Absolutely stunning.

But explain to me what innovations or special features they have going for them.

Killzone 2 seems to be a generic FPS with ridiculous and over-the-top motion blur and effects.

Heavy Rain seems to be a strange QTE and semi-on rails thing. It looks like it has very boring gameplay.

I'm open minded here, so don't flame, I'm actually curious: what do these games have going for them in the gameplay department?

ps3_owns_360Wii

everything doesn't have to innovate:(

[QUOTE="awsss"]

Yes, they both have incredible graphics. Absolutely stunning.

But explain to me what innovations or special features they have going for them.

Killzone 2 seems to be a generic FPS with ridiculous and over-the-top motion blur and effects.

Heavy Rain seems to be a strange QTE and semi-on rails thing. It looks like it has very boring gameplay.

I'm open minded here, so don't flame, I'm actually curious: what do these games have going for them in the gameplay department?

Silverbond

There's the source of the initial hype. But after the KZ2 beta the hype stems from gameplay.

[QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"][QUOTE="awsss"]

Yes, they both have incredible graphics. Absolutely stunning.

But explain to me what innovations or special features they have going for them.

Killzone 2 seems to be a generic FPS with ridiculous and over-the-top motion blur and effects.

Heavy Rain seems to be a strange QTE and semi-on rails thing. It looks like it has very boring gameplay.

I'm open minded here, so don't flame, I'm actually curious: what do these games have going for them in the gameplay department?

awsss

everything doesn't have to innovate:(

maybe the graphics?

[QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="awsss"]

Yes, they both have incredible graphics. Absolutely stunning.

But explain to me what innovations or special features they have going for them.

Killzone 2 seems to be a generic FPS with ridiculous and over-the-top motion blur and effects.

Heavy Rain seems to be a strange QTE and semi-on rails thing. It looks like it has very boring gameplay.

I'm open minded here, so don't flame, I'm actually curious: what do these games have going for them in the gameplay department?

awsss

There's the source of the initial hype. But after the KZ2 beta the hype stems from gameplay.

I personally have no idea.

[QUOTE="awsss"][QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]

everything doesn't have to innovate:(

ps3_owns_360Wii

maybe the graphics?

[QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"][QUOTE="awsss"]
Of course not. But there are enough generic FPS out there. Why should I play this over COD4?awsss

maybe the graphics?

now your just nit-picking.

[QUOTE="awsss"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

There's the source of the initial hype. But after the KZ2 beta the hype stems from gameplay.

Silverbond

I personally have no idea.

[QUOTE="awsss"][QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]

maybe the graphics?

ps3_owns_360Wii

now your just nit-picking.

[QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"][QUOTE="awsss"]
Of course not. But there are enough generic FPS out there. Why should I play this over COD4?awsss

maybe the graphics?

[QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"][QUOTE="awsss"]
Of course not. But there are enough generic FPS out there. Why should I play this over COD4?awsss

maybe the graphics?

[QUOTE="awsss"][QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]

maybe the graphics?

Meowmixxvi

[QUOTE="awsss"][QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]

maybe the graphics?

Meowmixxvi

from what i read, heavy rain is actually pretty open ended. kz2 doesn't seem my kinda thing (im not big on fps) but heavy rain definitely has me intrigued. z4twenny

Also, clan support with valor points are awesome. You can basically bet in clan battles now.GodofBigMacs

Anyways thats sweet... but is the clan system tryout based or just put their tag in your name like in COD4?

[QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"][QUOTE="awsss"]

Yes, they both have incredible graphics. Absolutely stunning.

But explain to me what innovations or special features they have going for them.

Killzone 2 seems to be a generic FPS with ridiculous and over-the-top motion blur and effects.

Heavy Rain seems to be a strange QTE and semi-on rails thing. It looks like it has very boring gameplay.

I'm open minded here, so don't flame, I'm actually curious: what do these games have going for them in the gameplay department?

awsss

everything doesn't have to innovate:(

[QUOTE="awsss"][QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]

everything doesn't have to innovate:(

SiKh22

Yeah I guess the hype is mainly for its graphics.

Judging by the gameplay vids I have a feeling Heavy Rain will feel like another interactive movie, which means you'll probably watch more than play.

But I think Killzone 2 will rock.

KZ2's lean and peak (I don't really know the details THAT well) is you press a button to latch onto cover. From there, you can go out to the side using L2 for left and R2 for right, and I think both is up... IDK, I don't know it that well. GodofBigMacs

That sounds good, it sounds like the one used in Medal of Honor Airborne (but maybe more refined), i liked that one because it was different from the old lean and peak from PC, and absence or third person from consoles.

[QUOTE="z4twenny"]from what i read, heavy rain is actually pretty open ended. kz2 doesn't seem my kinda thing (im not big on fps) but heavy rain definitely has me intrigued. awsss

Also, clan support with valor points are awesome. You can basically bet in clan battles now.GodofBigMacs

Anyways thats sweet... but is the clan system tryout based or just put their tag in your name like in COD4?

I am hyping/buying this game because of the story, past experience with the series, and gameplay.

Please refer to this review before reading, dont read the side stuff well i didnt for spoiler purposes, but the main review talked about some things i will talk about. Any videos just go to gametrailers and look them up yourself.http://forums.gametrailers.com/?do=show_thread&id=570122&page=1#post_row_13766996

Since you want to hear about gameplay ill tell. It is a tactical first person shooter that is NOT like COD. Its not a arcady game, it has smart AI and that is one of the main reasons im getting it. Its a hype factor that is never shown when mindless fanboys hype this game. From the review i posted above they will describe the game has a good challenge factor and that really excites me because challenge is lacking from almost all games this gen, its truely a much missed element in games this gen for me.

Shooting mechanics is also another part that im excited for. The cover system, the way the guns shoot and reload, the way you have to aim your shots to win a fight. This is not a run and gun shooter, so stop comparing it to COD which is in fact run and gun.

As for your question on the clan thing, its the clans choice just like clans in every game if its try out based or not, go look up a multiplayer preview for better details, i dont want to explain but its a nice system they have implemented.

Now im still vague and im missing many points but i provided more then most people do, if you have any questions please ask, ill be happy to answer or elaborate on more if you so wish.

[QUOTE="SiKh22"][QUOTE="awsss"]
Of course not. But there are enough generic FPS out there. Why should I play this over COD4?awsss

Heavy Rain is being hyped not only for its incredible graphics, but also because it is from the same developer as Indigo Prophecy. Indigo Prophecy used the same sort of "cinematic gameplay" mechanics that Heavy Rain will be using, and many people consider it to be a masterpiece because the on rail adventure game mechanics allow it to tell its great story in a very natural and seamless fashion. I personally didn't like the game much, but it was very well received by both the critics and the gaming public (at least on System Wars), so it's only natural that people would hype a game coming from the same vein.

Killzone 2 you'll have to ask somebody else on, I don't follow that game.

PC FPSs = Half-Life clones

Console FPSs = Halo clones

thats the way it is.

PC FPSs = Half-Life clones

Console FPSs = Halo clones

thats the way it is.

glez13

even goldeneye was a halo clone? :shock:

[QUOTE="glez13"]

PC FPSs = Half-Life clones

Console FPSs = Halo clones

thats the way it is.

FragTycoon

even goldeneye was a halo clone? :shock:

Of course it is, the similarities are obvious.

[QUOTE="awsss"]

[QUOTE="z4twenny"]
Yeah I just saw the initial videos of it, and it looked very strange, but if it's open ended then I might check it out.


[QUOTE="GodofBigMacs"]Also, clan support with valor points are awesome. You can basically bet in clan battles now.Sully28

Anyways thats sweet... but is the clan system tryout based or just put their tag in your name like in COD4?

I am hyping/buying this game because of the story, past experience with the series, and gameplay.

Please refer to this review before reading, dont read the side stuff well i didnt for spoiler purposes, but the main review talked about some things i will talk about. Any videos just go to gametrailers and look them up yourself.http://forums.gametrailers.com/?do=show_thread&id=570122&page=1#post_row_13766996

Since you want to hear about gameplay ill tell. It is a tactical first person shooter that is NOT like COD. Its not a arcady game, it has smart AI and that is one of the main reasons im getting it. Its a hype factor that is never shown when mindless fanboys hype this game. From the review i posted above they will describe the game has a good challenge factor and that really excites me because challenge is lacking from almost all games this gen, its truely a much missed element in games this gen for me.

Shooting mechanics is also another part that im excited for. The cover system, the way the guns shoot and reload, the way you have to aim your shots to win a fight. This is not a run and gun shooter, so stop comparing it to COD which is in fact run and gun.

As for your question on the clan thing, its the clans choice just like clans in every game if its try out based or not, go look up a multiplayer preview for better details, i dont want to explain but its a nice system they have implemented.

Now im still vague and im missing many points but i provided more then most people do, if you have any questions please ask, ill be happy to answer or elaborate on more if you so wish.

:shock: how could you forget the badge system thing

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"][QUOTE="glez13"]

PC FPSs = Half-Life clones

Console FPSs = Halo clones

thats the way it is.

Sully28

even goldeneye was a halo clone? :shock:

Of course it is, the similarities are obvious.

Yes a 1997 game is a clone of a 2001 game :roll:

See Killzone 2 looks like Gears 2 did, a rock solid use of the genre. Killzone 2 does look "genaric", but so was CoD 4. It looks like a really fun romp for a good few hours then an amazingly polished online porportion.

If you want a FPS that follows the same formula but sucks, play CoD 3. The campaign is not even fun, its just boring. Killzone 2 looks to at least be fun with some pretty tense situations, breakable cover, first person cover system, decent AI, and some of the best graphics ever seen. Remember we have really only been hyping the graphics of the game, but it looks to be much better than jsut a graphical showcase.

Heavy Rain, all about the graphics.

Because Heavy Rain comes from a line of games that are very good.

Killzone 2... well, just look at all the praise it's getting. It is not a generic FPS, it oozes atmosphere and style, and after the beta was released, has people scrambling left and right singing its praises. Fine tuned gameplay, powerful cinematic feel, all bundled with incredible AI that provides a realistic challenge and a ton of variety. If you still dont understand the hype, then I grieve for you.

[QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"][QUOTE="awsss"]
The effects are too over the top for me. I don't like the crazy camera shakes and motion blur: this is a game, not a movie. Any other reasons?awsss

now your just nit-picking.

everything doesn't have to innovate:(ps3_owns_360Wii

[QUOTE="Sully28"][QUOTE="awsss"]

Anyways thats sweet... but is the clan system tryout based or just put their tag in your name like in COD4?

johnnyboy5000

I am hyping/buying this game because of the story, past experience with the series, and gameplay.

Please refer to this review before reading, dont read the side stuff well i didnt for spoiler purposes, but the main review talked about some things i will talk about. Any videos just go to gametrailers and look them up yourself.http://forums.gametrailers.com/?do=show_thread&id=570122&page=1#post_row_13766996

Since you want to hear about gameplay ill tell. It is a tactical first person shooter that is NOT like COD. Its not a arcady game, it has smart AI and that is one of the main reasons im getting it. Its a hype factor that is never shown when mindless fanboys hype this game. From the review i posted above they will describe the game has a good challenge factor and that really excites me because challenge is lacking from almost all games this gen, its truely a much missed element in games this gen for me.

Shooting mechanics is also another part that im excited for. The cover system, the way the guns shoot and reload, the way you have to aim your shots to win a fight. This is not a run and gun shooter, so stop comparing it to COD which is in fact run and gun.

As for your question on the clan thing, its the clans choice just like clans in every game if its try out based or not, go look up a multiplayer preview for better details, i dont want to explain but its a nice system they have implemented.

Now im still vague and im missing many points but i provided more then most people do, if you have any questions please ask, ill be happy to answer or elaborate on more if you so wish.

:shock: how could you forget the badge system thing

oh trust me i didnt, i just didnt want to go into every detail before i knew he would reaspond, and as you can see, he hasnt even posted back yet so i dont regret my decision of not mentioning it at all. But damn i cant wait my friend, its gonna be a really fun game online and off :D

I'm not feeling Heavy Rain so much..

Killzone 2?

i cant say i'm NOT excited, but hell it looks TOO good to miss. :P

Killzone was to the ps2 what haze is to the ps3: A total letdown.

I'm not going to believe the hype, or the previews from the press. Because every hyped game in its preview stage talked up by either IGN or Gamespot, turns to crap upon release..save the obvious successes.