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#1 citizen-zero
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Port the engine onto the 360, split it into 5 DVDs, and let us install the game onto the hard drive. I'm not seeing the hardware limitation. 360 GPU > PS3 GPU. 360 tri - core (2 treads per core) CPU is basically equal to PS3's 1 core 7 thread CPU. Why the sony loyalty? MGS2 came out for Xbox....
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#2 MuffinPunk
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Cause the dude said so. I could care less either way, MGS4 does not interest me in the least, and I have a PS3. Go figure.
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#4 IIJuggaNottII
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LOL @ 5 discs. Thats crazy. Would it take that much.
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#5 ONLYDOD
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None of us know wether it could or not. But it doesn't matter, because it's not going to turn up on the 360.
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#6 hayato_
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Port the engine onto the 360, split it into 5 DVDs, and let us install the game onto the hard drive. I'm not seeing the hardware limitation. 360 GPU > PS3 GPU. 360 tri - core (2 treads per core) CPU is basically equal to PS3's 1 core 7 thread CPU. Why the sony loyalty? MGS2 came out for Xbox....citizen-zero

Hell, why do we even have exclusives nowadays??:roll:

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#7 fredyfish
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yea it can be done, maybe not 5 disks though, 3 at most the graphics look the same as 360 games, even killzone 2 could be done on a 360

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#8 Kahuna_1
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Game already shipped 4 million and Kojima HATES multiplats. Not going to happen.
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Its the "powuh of teh cellz.":P
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#10 sargentbotk
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Hideo doesn't want it on there. It's that plain and simple. Judging by his statements, he's very loyal when it comes to MGS4 staying on the PS3.

But man...that game is a piece of work. I finally understand the praise it gets. The cutscenes aren't THAT long. They're cut in quarter sequences between gameplay, which makes you think they aren't that long. I'm playing on a hard difficulty and I appreciate those awesome cutscenes(I need brakes between the gameplay :(). I'm on Act 2 right now and it's good so far.

Cows...it deserves the 10 in my book as of now. You guys were right :P

I think this owns Gears of War :) I think it pwns Halo 3's SP campaign too.

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#11 The_Game21x
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While I don't think for a second it can't be done on the 360 due to technical reasons, I don't see it ever happening due to the pervasive Sony and Apple product placement (Otacon's laptop, Snake's iPod, The DualShock 3 used to control the Metal Gear Mark II, etc.) seen throughout the game.

EDIT: I couldn't care less though at this point. I've already bought it, played it, finished it and moved on to other things on my PS3.

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#13 EVOLV3
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Can the lems let it go already, Kojima says NO. Stop making threads about it, MGS4 is not going to the 360.
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#14 Zaibach
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mods need to start locking these its beyond sad now. and just plain annoying
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#15 naruto7777
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no the stupid kojima said ''no''
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#16 xsubtownerx
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I'm sick of these threads.. MGS4 will never happen for the 360. It "could" be done, but it "won't" be done. Please people let's MOVE THE F ON!
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#17 kyacat
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Hidoe Kojima already say that Metal gear 4 will never be on 360 and was say way before Metal gear 4 was release on ps3
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#18 TenP
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It could be done, but it won't. I assure you Sony paid for Exclusivity rights, and they're going to pay for exclusivity rights for the future games.
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#19 Floppy_Jim
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Sony were stupid enough to lose FF13 so anything can happen. But I think a 360 version is very unlikely.
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#20 Fumpa
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LOL @ 5 discs. Thats crazy. Would it take that much. IIJuggaNottII

And if it did, the cost for all those diss would drastically hurt profits (I'm going off of Carmacks complaints about cost per disc). I don't see why it isn't possible though, but from what I've read from people that know the game, there's a lot of Sony references so they'd either have to change it, or MS would have to be cool with it. Not sure what else could be a problem.

Plus side: With the ability to write games to HD, that would make a huge difference and would negate the whole switching discs bs.

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#21 Fumpa
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Do you guys think that it would sell really well on the 360?
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#22 sakura_Ex
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Hideo doesn't want it on there. It's that plain and simple. Judging by his statements, he's very loyal when it comes to MGS4 staying on the PS3.

But man...that game is a piece of work. I finally understand the praise it gets. The cutscenes aren't THAT long. They're cut in quarter sequences between gameplay, which makes you think they aren't that long. I'm playing on a hard difficulty and I appreciate those awesome cutscenes(I need brakes between the gameplay :(). I'm on Act 2 right now and it's good so far.

Cows...it deserves the 10 in my book as of now. You guys were right :P

I think this owns Gears of War :) I think it pwns Halo 3's SP campaign too.

sargentbotk

Weren't you one of the people who kept calling it Movie Gear Solid 4?

How's that crow tasting?

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#24 iesexywarden
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"i dont see why MGS4 cant be on the 360"

simple answer- because kojima said so.

Lol, but really kojima hated games on more then 1 disc he said that and that was something he hated about mgs1 and something made fun of in mgs4...he wont port it to 360 if it was only 2 discs and certainly not anymore then that...

some games were meant to be played on some systems

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#25 anime_gamer007
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While I don't think for a second it can't be done on the 360 due to technical reasons, I don't see it ever happening due to the pervasive Sony and Apple product placement (Otacon's laptop, Snake's iPod, The DualShock 3 used to control the Metal Gear Mark II, etc.) seen throughout the game.

EDIT: I couldn't care less though at this point. I've already bought it, played it, finished it and moved on to other things on my PS3.

The_Game21x

Exactly what I was going say. The apple laptops, the ipod, the PS3 controller not to mention a little joke Otacon said that can ONLY be on the PS3 for a reason. With compression it probably could be done on a 360 but, those little details Kojima put in makes it virtually it impossible to be going on any other system.Basically, it can be done but, it won't be.

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#26 ArisShadows
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You kinda answered yourself.

Too many discs and not everyone owns a HDD.

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#27 sireclaborn
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becuase kojima the person who made the game said so
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#28 ZOnikJJ
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I wouldn't doubt that it is very possible to port the game to the Xbox 360, it just isn't likely to happen IMO. Kojima made it a point to always show that this is an exclusive game to the PS3. Just get a PS3 if you want it so bad. : /
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#29 sargentbotk
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[QUOTE="sargentbotk"]

Hideo doesn't want it on there. It's that plain and simple. Judging by his statements, he's very loyal when it comes to MGS4 staying on the PS3.

But man...that game is a piece of work. I finally understand the praise it gets. The cutscenes aren't THAT long. They're cut in quarter sequences between gameplay, which makes you think they aren't that long. I'm playing on a hard difficulty and I appreciate those awesome cutscenes(I need brakes between the gameplay :(). I'm on Act 2 right now and it's good so far.

Cows...it deserves the 10 in my book as of now. You guys were right :P

I think this owns Gears of War :) I think it pwns Halo 3's SP campaign too.

sakura_Ex

Weren't you one of the people who kept calling it Movie Gear Solid 4?

How's that crow tasting?

Haha, yes I was. But it was because I was jealous at the time :oops:

I take everything back though. It is a game I can't turn away from. The graphics are amazing, and I see that the cutscenes aren't as long to the point I'd get bored of them because of the way they placed them between gameplay sequences. It's pretty cool :)

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#30 C4_yourself
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LOL @ 5 discs. Thats crazy. Would it take that much. IIJuggaNottII
alot better then five seperate install times
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#31 Lionheart08
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Port the engine onto the 360, split it into 5 DVDs, and let us install the game onto the hard drive. I'm not seeing the hardware limitation. 360 GPU > PS3 GPU. 360 tri - core (2 treads per core) CPU is basically equal to PS3's 1 core 7 thread CPU. Why the sony loyalty? MGS2 came out for Xbox....citizen-zero

I know it's hard to comprehend, but bare with me, Kojima doesn't it want it to. :shock:

At the end of the day, despite all the spec threads Lems make it'll remain the same.

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#32 C4_yourself
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We all know that mgs4 is going to be on the 360 eventually
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#33 Lionheart08
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We all know that mgs4 is going to be on the 360 eventually C4_yourself

How do we all know this? I'm dying to hear this.

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#34 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="sakura_Ex"][QUOTE="sargentbotk"]

Hideo doesn't want it on there. It's that plain and simple. Judging by his statements, he's very loyal when it comes to MGS4 staying on the PS3.

But man...that game is a piece of work. I finally understand the praise it gets. The cutscenes aren't THAT long. They're cut in quarter sequences between gameplay, which makes you think they aren't that long. I'm playing on a hard difficulty and I appreciate those awesome cutscenes(I need brakes between the gameplay :(). I'm on Act 2 right now and it's good so far.

Cows...it deserves the 10 in my book as of now. You guys were right :P

I think this owns Gears of War :) I think it pwns Halo 3's SP campaign too.

sargentbotk

Weren't you one of the people who kept calling it Movie Gear Solid 4?

How's that crow tasting?

Haha, yes I was. But it was because I was jealous at the time :oops:

I take everything back though. It is a game I can't turn away from. The graphics are amazing, and I see that the cutscenes aren't as long to the point I'd get bored of them because of the way they placed them between gameplay sequences. It's pretty cool :)

The fact that you even bashed it saddens me.

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#35 never100
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[QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"]LOL @ 5 discs. Thats crazy. Would it take that much. C4_yourself
alot better then five seperate install times

Not really. The 1st install took some time true, but the ones after were just a bit longer than it would take to get up cwitch discs and sit down. They are pretty quick. Also 360 pacage idea for multiple discs is sad.

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#36 never100
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[QUOTE="sargentbotk"][QUOTE="sakura_Ex"][QUOTE="sargentbotk"]

Hideo doesn't want it on there. It's that plain and simple. Judging by his statements, he's very loyal when it comes to MGS4 staying on the PS3.

But man...that game is a piece of work. I finally understand the praise it gets. The cutscenes aren't THAT long. They're cut in quarter sequences between gameplay, which makes you think they aren't that long. I'm playing on a hard difficulty and I appreciate those awesome cutscenes(I need brakes between the gameplay :(). I'm on Act 2 right now and it's good so far.

Cows...it deserves the 10 in my book as of now. You guys were right :P

I think this owns Gears of War :) I think it pwns Halo 3's SP campaign too.

SolidTy

Weren't you one of the people who kept calling it Movie Gear Solid 4?

How's that crow tasting?

Haha, yes I was. But it was because I was jealous at the time :oops:

I take everything back though. It is a game I can't turn away from. The graphics are amazing, and I see that the cutscenes aren't as long to the point I'd get bored of them because of the way they placed them between gameplay sequences. It's pretty cool :)

The fact that you even bashed it saddens me.

I forgive him. People get swept up in things.

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#37 sargentbotk
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[QUOTE="sargentbotk"][QUOTE="sakura_Ex"][QUOTE="sargentbotk"]

Hideo doesn't want it on there. It's that plain and simple. Judging by his statements, he's very loyal when it comes to MGS4 staying on the PS3.

But man...that game is a piece of work. I finally understand the praise it gets. The cutscenes aren't THAT long. They're cut in quarter sequences between gameplay, which makes you think they aren't that long. I'm playing on a hard difficulty and I appreciate those awesome cutscenes(I need brakes between the gameplay :(). I'm on Act 2 right now and it's good so far.

Cows...it deserves the 10 in my book as of now. You guys were right :P

I think this owns Gears of War :) I think it pwns Halo 3's SP campaign too.

SolidTy

Weren't you one of the people who kept calling it Movie Gear Solid 4?

How's that crow tasting?

Haha, yes I was. But it was because I was jealous at the time :oops:

I take everything back though. It is a game I can't turn away from. The graphics are amazing, and I see that the cutscenes aren't as long to the point I'd get bored of them because of the way they placed them between gameplay sequences. It's pretty cool :)

The fact that you even bashed it saddens me.

Ah, well...that was before I even thought of buying a PS3. I played the previous MGS games but wasn't THAT attached to the series but I knew what it was about and everything but wasn't...you know.

At the time, I didn't really mean what I said. I just said it out of jealousy :P. I knew it looked good from the start and all. But yeah...I'm ashamed as well. But at least I considered playing it and didn't actually believe what I said about it :)

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#38 mistervengeance
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it can be done. it would take serious optimization and reworking FOR it to be done. and that won't happen for a while, if it ever does.
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#39 Animal-Mother
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yea it can be done, maybe not 5 disks though, 3 at most the graphics look the same as 360 games, even killzone 2 could be done on a 360

fredyfish

so that means any game on the 360 can be done on ps3 right?
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#40 metalgear-solid
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Oh noes. Not another one of these topics...:roll: Get over it and buy a PS3 and MGS4 already!

Hey, Crysis is possible on the PS3!

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#41 Steppy_76
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it can be done. it would take serious optimization and reworking FOR it to be done. and that won't happen for a while, if it ever does.mistervengeance
Other than going to 5.1 compressed audio, I don't think there's much else that would need to be done. It isn't a technical issue that is keeping it from being done, merely a business decision.
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#42 Microsoft1234
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it can be "done" but will it? prolly not
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#43 foxhound_fox
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With so many previously exclusive IP's going multiplat and garnering larger profits I don't see why they haven't done it yet. There is obviously not a technical barrier considering that there was a developer who said; "developing a game for PS3 and then porting it to 360 is easier than vice-versa."

It's obviously a pride thing for Kojima. He wouldn't want to see his baby ported poorly like the previous installations on PC and Xbox and is hesitant to do so again.
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#44 shoemen22
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Port the engine onto the 360, split it into 5 DVDs, and let us install the game onto the hard drive. I'm not seeing the hardware limitation. 360 GPU > PS3 GPU. 360 tri - core (2 treads per core) CPU is basically equal to PS3's 1 core 7 thread CPU. Why the sony loyalty? MGS2 came out for Xbox....citizen-zero

i think your right there isnt any reason why it cant be on the 360 but i still like to make the point that the cpu in the ps3 is 2 and a half times stronger then the 360 this is a common known fact. graphics about the same same as the amount of ram but cpu...you dont want to go down that path becuase ps3 fans will own you

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#45 leejohnson7
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Ohh... thats good, so they pay 5 times more money for disks per game while charging the same? lol it's never happening I am afraid.

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#46 michelle341
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Port the engine onto the 360, split it into 5 DVDs, and let us install the game onto the hard drive. I'm not seeing the hardware limitation. 360 GPU > PS3 GPU. 360 tri - core (2 treads per core) CPU is basically equal to PS3's 1 core 7 thread CPU. Why the sony loyalty? MGS2 came out for Xbox....citizen-zero

no one said it's impossible..(though I do think it would be quite annoying to have 5 discs while ps3 owners have 1...) anyway it's not being ported becuase kojima wanted it to be a ps3 exclusive to thank sony for letting him put the first mgs game on thier ps1 (he thinks the series success is thanks to sony and wanted to thank them)...it's nothing but loyalty

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#47 foxhound_fox
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no one said it's impossible..(though I do think it would be quite annoying to have 5 discs while ps3 owners have 1...) anyway it's not being ported becuase kojima wanted it to be a ps3 exclusive to thank sony for letting him put the first mgs game on thier ps1 (he thinks the series success is thanks to sony and wanted to thank them)...it's nothing but loyaltymichelle341

I'm pretty sure there have been some Sony PR snobs touting that to be the case.
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#48 EverteMax
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cause it just isn't a game for the 360. I own a 360 and also a fan of the MGS series...can never picture those color A, B, X, Y buttons coming up on screen during the tutorials...LOL

Not to bash the 360, but I can never feel the control of Solid Snake with that 360 controller

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#49 -DrRobotnik-
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Well it wouldnt take up 5 discs considering MGS4 is only 30GB. Thats 4 discs max, but removing repeated data and compression could easily bring that down to 2 discs. Anyway, im not holding my breath. Its sold great on the Playstation, and im sure Sony have some deals in place to keep it exclusive.
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#50 michelle341
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also I think u should stop being jealus of ps3 owners for having that game..u dont see ps3 owners complaining that gears of war 2 (for example) can also be a ps3 game..in any case the xbox 360 has more exclusives then the ps3 does..let us ps3 owners also enjoy some good exclusives ( u already toke ff13)