I don't think people understand what BioWare is....

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#1 colmusterd28
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They're the guys who make the games with the really good stories...

They're the guys who actually try inovative new combat schemes and character managment (yes, I'm looking at you Square Enix).

They're the guys who build the amazing "experience" not just a video game...

They're also the guys who always have framerate issues and tweaks of sorts that pop up every once in a while...

It's funny, I can pretty much guarantee that every negative ME thread was started by an uneducated fanboy who was never given the privlage of putting KOTOR in their busted up PS2...

Again, I'll say it... Reviews don't matter in this game. It WILL be the best experience of the year and little glitches and tweaks in the game don't amount to a hill of beans because the experience will be that good....

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#2 OremLK
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I agree completely.
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#3 XaosII
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It's funny, I can pretty much guarantee that every negative ME thread was started by an uneducated fanboy who was never given the privlage of putting KOTOR in their busted up PS2..colmusterd28

I think its funny that i can pretty much guarantee that every person claiming KOTOR to be so awesome hasnt actually played anything from Bioware before the Xbox. KOTOR might be a decent game but its crap compared to BG 2. Im sure it'll be the same for ME.

And just a slight variation in the D&D combat rules suddenly makes it an innovative system?

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#4 adastos
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Doesn't square tend to change up their combat schemes?
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They're the guys who make the games with the really good stories...

They're the guys who actually try inovative new combat schemes and character managment (yes, I'm looking at you Square Enix).

They're the guys who build the amazing "experience" not just a video game...

They're also the guys who always have framerate issues and tweaks of sorts that pop up every once in a while...

It's funny, I can pretty much guarantee that every negative ME thread was started by an uneducated fanboy who was never given the privlage of putting KOTOR in their busted up PS2...

Again, I'll say it... Reviews don't matter in this game. It WILL be the best experience of the year and little glitches and tweaks in the game don't amount to a hill of beans because the experience will be that good....

colmusterd28

Wow... nice damage control. You almost had me convinced. Almost. Wait, not really...

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#6 EPaul
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all true but the comment about Square wasnt needed
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#7 the_h_bomb
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lol no

plenty of JRPGs have superior stories to their games as did planescape and others

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[QUOTE="colmusterd28"]It's funny, I can pretty much guarantee that every negative ME thread was started by an uneducated fanboy who was never given the privlage of putting KOTOR in their busted up PS2..XaosII

I think its funny that i can pretty much guarantee that every person claiming KOTOR to be so awesome hasnt actually played anything from Bioware before the Xbox. KOTOR might be a decent game but its crap compared to BG 2. Im sure it'll be the same for ME.

And just a slight variation in the D&D combat rules suddenly makes it an innovative system?

so going from Kotor's fighting system, to Jade Empires realtime hand to hand combat system, to ME ,which in some circles makes this game a shooter isn't enough innovation for you...?

and yes I never played a BioWare game before KOTOR... it made me a believer....

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think Jade Empire
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#10 colmusterd28
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[QUOTE="colmusterd28"]

They're the guys who make the games with the really good stories...

They're the guys who actually try inovative new combat schemes and character managment (yes, I'm looking at you Square Enix).

They're the guys who build the amazing "experience" not just a video game...

They're also the guys who always have framerate issues and tweaks of sorts that pop up every once in a while...

It's funny, I can pretty much guarantee that every negative ME thread was started by an uneducated fanboy who was never given the privlage of putting KOTOR in their busted up PS2...

Again, I'll say it... Reviews don't matter in this game. It WILL be the best experience of the year and little glitches and tweaks in the game don't amount to a hill of beans because the experience will be that good....

Jared2720

Wow... nice damage control. You almost had me convinced. Almost. Wait, not really...

another lost soul... go buy an XBOX and KOTOR and you will be convinced

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[QUOTE="Jared2720"][QUOTE="colmusterd28"]

They're the guys who make the games with the really good stories...

They're the guys who actually try inovative new combat schemes and character managment (yes, I'm looking at you Square Enix).

They're the guys who build the amazing "experience" not just a video game...

They're also the guys who always have framerate issues and tweaks of sorts that pop up every once in a while...

It's funny, I can pretty much guarantee that every negative ME thread was started by an uneducated fanboy who was never given the privlage of putting KOTOR in their busted up PS2...

Again, I'll say it... Reviews don't matter in this game. It WILL be the best experience of the year and little glitches and tweaks in the game don't amount to a hill of beans because the experience will be that good....

colmusterd28

Wow... nice damage control. You almost had me convinced. Almost. Wait, not really...

another lost soul... go buy an XBOX and KOTOR and you will be convinced

Convinced of what? That a game developer should be granted my everlasting loyalty based on the laurels of one game? That it's okay to pay my hard-earned money for a game full of bugs and glitches? That it's okay to pay my hard-earned money for a game that is severely short compared to others in its genre? No, thanks. I don't really want to be convinced of that.

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#12 Always-Honest
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appearently you're right. i can't imagine a game with that many problems getting 9.5 scores everywhere.
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[QUOTE="colmusterd28"]It's funny, I can pretty much guarantee that every negative ME thread was started by an uneducated fanboy who was never given the privlage of putting KOTOR in their busted up PS2..XaosII

I think its funny that i can pretty much guarantee that every person claiming KOTOR to be so awesome hasnt actually played anything from Bioware before the Xbox. KOTOR might be a decent game but its crap compared to BG 2. Im sure it'll be the same for ME.

And just a slight variation in the D&D combat rules suddenly makes it an innovative system?

I've played through BG2 and KotOR twice each (plus NWN and expansions and Jade Empire) and I think KotOR is overall the best game they've made and the best RPG ever made.

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They're the guys who make the games with the really good stories...

They're the guys who actually try inovative new combat schemes and character managment (yes, I'm looking at you Square Enix).

They're the guys who build the amazing "experience" not just a video game...

They're also the guys who always have framerate issues and tweaks of sorts that pop up every once in a while...

It's funny, I can pretty much guarantee that every negative ME thread was started by an uneducated fanboy who was never given the privlage of putting KOTOR in their busted up PS2...

Again, I'll say it... Reviews don't matter in this game. It WILL be the best experience of the year and little glitches and tweaks in the game don't amount to a hill of beans because the experience will be that good....

colmusterd28

Yea I do enjoy biowares work, but I will admit that i never played a game they made before kotor. lol I like the framerate comment which is very true. Also the cheap shot at eastern rpg's wasint needed. I enjoy easter rpg's more then western with bioware and proboly other fewbeing the acception.

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#15 colmusterd28
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[QUOTE="colmusterd28"][QUOTE="Jared2720"][QUOTE="colmusterd28"]

They're the guys who make the games with the really good stories...

They're the guys who actually try inovative new combat schemes and character managment (yes, I'm looking at you Square Enix).

They're the guys who build the amazing "experience" not just a video game...

They're also the guys who always have framerate issues and tweaks of sorts that pop up every once in a while...

It's funny, I can pretty much guarantee that every negative ME thread was started by an uneducated fanboy who was never given the privlage of putting KOTOR in their busted up PS2...

Again, I'll say it... Reviews don't matter in this game. It WILL be the best experience of the year and little glitches and tweaks in the game don't amount to a hill of beans because the experience will be that good....

Jared2720

Wow... nice damage control. You almost had me convinced. Almost. Wait, not really...

another lost soul... go buy an XBOX and KOTOR and you will be convinced

Convinced of what? That a game developer should be granted everlasting loyalty based on the laurels of one game? That it's okay to pay my hard-earned money for a game full of bugs and glitches? That it's okay to pay my hard-earned money for a game that is severely short compared to others in its genre? No, thanks. I don't really want to be convinced of that.

Ya know, its funny... You may actually believe that ME is "severely" short and "full" of bugs and glitches... its sad really... I actually feel bad for you. You may not buy the best game of 07 and probably 08 because a little 13 year old fanboy put in your ear that ME was not going to be the best game in a long long while... You friend, are sadly wrong... oh well... more for us I suppose....

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[QUOTE="XaosII"]

[QUOTE="colmusterd28"]It's funny, I can pretty much guarantee that every negative ME thread was started by an uneducated fanboy who was never given the privlage of putting KOTOR in their busted up PS2..OremLK

I think its funny that i can pretty much guarantee that every person claiming KOTOR to be so awesome hasnt actually played anything from Bioware before the Xbox. KOTOR might be a decent game but its crap compared to BG 2. Im sure it'll be the same for ME.

And just a slight variation in the D&D combat rules suddenly makes it an innovative system?

I've played through BG2 and KotOR twice each (plus NWN and expansions and Jade Empire) and I think KotOR is overall the best game they've made and the best RPG ever made.

Wow. I really did think BG2 was better overall, as everything felt much more epic and awesome. KOTOR did benefit from time, though - little things like full voice acting helped immeasurably for the overall experience.
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They're the guys that have been using the same one dminension morality scheme for more than five years. Oh whoops, you were on a role. :S
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[QUOTE="colmusterd28"]It's funny, I can pretty much guarantee that every negative ME thread was started by an uneducated fanboy who was never given the privlage of putting KOTOR in their busted up PS2..XaosII

I think its funny that i can pretty much guarantee that every person claiming KOTOR to be so awesome hasnt actually played anything from Bioware before the Xbox. KOTOR might be a decent game but its crap compared to BG 2. Im sure it'll be the same for ME.

And just a slight variation in the D&D combat rules suddenly makes it an innovative system?

i was thinking the same thing. first the say bioware is the greatest rpg dev and then they say it made kotor. Lol, kotor was pretty average compared to BG 2

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Ya know, its funny... You may actually believe that ME is "severely" short and "full" of bugs and glitches... its sad really... I actually feel bad for you. You may not buy the best game of 07 and probably 08 because a little 13 year old fanboy put in your ear that ME was not going to be the best game in a long long while... You friend, are sadly wrong... oh well... more for us I suppose....

colmusterd28

Why should you feel bad for us? I feel sorry for fanboys who try to convince others that they should by this or that they should bow down and worship this.

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they are one with the casual beast, EA games
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#21 Sparky04
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Doesn't square tend to change up their combat schemes?adastos

I think he's talking about characters which do tend to be the same in Final Fantasy games. Though the combat does change quite a bit which is the best thing about Final Fantasy games.