I don't understand how console gamers settle for 30fps.

Is it for the so called cinematic experience?

4k is nice and all but how can you enjoy the gameplay when a game performs badly and even dips into the 20's? That's like a slide show for me.

If it saves me from buggy drivers, bullshit ini editing, and OS updates that break things, I'll take 30fps on a console all damned day over trying to game on a PC.

@tjandmia: those happen not as often now, and updates breaking the game is also prone in consoles too. Ps4 firware update broke Syndicate for me.

Don't usually high speed games benefit from 60fps? Honestly I'm ok with 30fps if it's stable

Any game.

"I don't understand how console gamers settle for 30fps"

Because they don't have a choice on consoles.

Yet, they don't mind.

You talk about 30 frames and then subtly add in dips into the 20's...fool...lol

That's how it goes a lot of times though, console games rarely stay locked at their target framerate.

I didn't seem to have any problem playing the Uncharted games on the PS3. Seemed smooth enough. Killzone 2 and 3 both lagged pretty bad in some spots though.

Yes.

@tjandmia: lol ok

I completely agree and this is the thing that console gamers are not realizing lol. Almost all the Xbox one x games are gonna run in 30fps lol. Amazing how consoles run the same frame rate as the ps1 days. 1080 or 1440 at 60fps is better than 4k at 30fps.

60 fps isn't necessary, it depends on the genre. But yea, after playing FPSes on PC it's difficult to go back to consoles.

Well if they had a choice....

Yeah, I can't stand it. One of the reasons I game on PC primarily.

I believe it's largely due to many console gamers never having played on a PC to compare. If they never tried something then they'll never be bothered by it.

Yeah because OS updates and buggy games never happen on cons..... ohhhhhhhhh, waiiiit.... ??

I hope more console devs start taking the route that Team Ninja took with Nioh. I don't expect console games to ever have a full list of graphics options, but being able to choose between a performance mode and a pretty pictures mode was a nice feature.

I don't notice the frames dropping tbh

Can't really stand it either. Will tolerate it for Bloodborne or Zelda or any other genuinely good n unique console exclusive. But otherwise I play primarily on my PC.

There isn't a genre that doesn't benefit from 60 frames. Be it for play or presentation.

You guys talk as if 60fps is something completely unknown for consoles.

I didn't know all PC games run at 60fps, that's amazing.

This... both platforms have their pros and cons.

@Jebus213: As opposed to what? PC gaming is cool. But most PC gamers can't run games 1080p 60FPS at ultra. At least not the current games. Plus playing with cheaters every day none stop, continuously spending time running benchmarks and optimizing settings to get the game running to your preferences. On console you get just as good gaming experience with better multiplayer services and a even playing field.

This must be a meme.

@Jebus213: holyshit totalbiscuit is that you

I watch his video's on a regular basis. So, I don't get it.

I play Nintendo and Sony exclusives. I could care less about games on PC. 60 FPS isn't a deal breaker for me. PC just got Vanquish and Bayonetta I played them 5 years ago. I don't ooh and ahh over textures or frame rates.

@Jebus213: he's obsessed with 60fps.

However, even he's like "well okay no biggy" when the game is turn-based.

@jdc6305: you played Bayo on PS3? My condolences.

Yeah I did play it on PS3 and it was better then not playing it at all. It was a buggy mess but they patched it within a day or two. It had some framerate drops and some minor screen tearing but over all I still enjoyed it. I still have my PS3 copy along with my WiiU copy and Xbox. I own it on all 3 platforms.

That's not an obsession. He's telling you how the game performs and I'm guessing him and his viewers and most PC gamers would rather have 60+fps.

@jdc6305: I couldn't stand PS3 version. Playing a game like that in 60fps is a sin. Had to buy XBOX version after.

@Jebus213: So do I. TB is the one of the few youtubers I follow. Totally agree with his sentiment on 60fps as well. I'm saying even he lets it slide when the game is turn-based.

I didn't have a Xbox at the time because of the RROD issues. I bought the game day one and I still liked it. It didn't run that bad on my PS3 after the patch. My cousin got the platinum for it on PS3. Fallout 3 and Skyrim were worse on PS3. Everything esle ran well. What the PS3 lacked it made up for in exclusives. Demon Souls Uncharted God of War Heavenly Sword all ran fine. I have 130 games for the PS3. The reliability is why I chose the PS3. What good are games if your system is broke?

And you played them both at 30 fps. Lol

Besides, what does this have to do with anything? Consoles are just getting Cities: Skylines, and that's been out on PC forever.

What is Cities Skylines? never heard of it.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Cities+Skylines

@AdobeArtist:

However, I'm willing to wager that buggy drivers and updates happen a lot more to PC gamers than console players experiencing buggy updates.

30fps is fine as long as frame pacing is fine.

I did not bought Tekken 7 for FPS so for me, 30fps is normal and standard. What I'm picking up on other people is that they wanted 60fps so it would look REALISTIC enough. I played Uncharted 4 in 30fps and it felt realistic.

I don't experience any of this. How incompetent are you?

@lexxluger: all mine do

30fps is shit, has always been shit, and always will be shit.

30fps is fine in some genres, racing, fighting, first person shooters all should be standard 60fps, drop the settings down on consoles or something to achieve it. Adventure, third person, I can handle those on console at 30.