I don't understang PS3 Pricing, do they no longer want to compete?

The cheapest PS3 SKU (80 GB) is $400, it's still very valuable seeing how it does come with 80 GIG, plus the Blu-Ray.... but NO games are included even during the Christmas time. I know that 360 Pro Model comes with Lego Indiana Jones & Kung Fu Panda (which doesn't scream buy me by a huge sector of 360 fans) but it still does come with free games!

But if ppl want to play Fall Out 3 or GTA 4 (or many AAA titles multi-plat) , would you rather spend $400 or $200?

The PS3 is a steal at 399 bucks!

The PS3 is a steal at 399 bucks!

I have a PS3 and if i was to buy a new 80GB i would get 3 games with it LBP Resistance 2 and PoP all for 300 Pound-Hoax-

because sony is going for profitability this gen, its no longer about winning, its about obligations to shareholders, when you are a publicly traded company, you HAVE to have worry about keeping the guys who bought your stock happy, or they will sell and your whole company will collapse. If they werent still incurring losses on every unit sold, or the software was selling really really well, (except for MGS4) then maybe they could offset it somehow, but right now, its not going to happen, if they did, then it would only please fanboys and abandon the people who bought stock in you, which is more important????navyguy21

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]because sony is going for profitability this gen, its no longer about winning, its about obligations to shareholders, when you are a publicly traded company, you HAVE to have worry about keeping the guys who bought your stock happy, or they will sell and your whole company will collapse. If they werent still incurring losses on every unit sold, or the software was selling really really well, (except for MGS4) then maybe they could offset it somehow, but right now, its not going to happen, if they did, then it would only please fanboys and abandon the people who bought stock in you, which is more important????cainetao11

because sony is going for profitability this gen, its no longer about winning, its about obligations to shareholders, when you are a publicly traded company, you HAVE to have worry about keeping the guys who bought your stock happy, or they will sell and your whole company will collapse. If they werent still incurring losses on every unit sold, or the software was selling really really well, (except for MGS4) then maybe they could offset it somehow, but right now, its not going to happen, if they did, then it would only please fanboys and abandon the people who bought stock in you, which is more important????navyguy21

The PS3 is a steal at 399 bucks!

Gaming_Guru_Guy

The cheapest PS3 SKU (80 GB) is $400, it's still very valuable seeing how it does come with 80 GIG, plus the Blu-Ray.... but NO games are included even during the Christmas time

sunnystarz

because sony is going for profitability this gen, its no longer about winning, its about obligations to shareholders, when you are a publicly traded company, you HAVE to have worry about keeping the guys who bought your stock happy, or they will sell and your whole company will collapse. If they werent still incurring losses on every unit sold, or the software was selling really really well, (except for MGS4) then maybe they could offset it somehow, but right now, its not going to happen, if they did, then it would only please fanboys and abandon the people who bought stock in you, which is more important????navyguy21

The cheapest PS3 SKU (80 GB) is $400, it's still very valuable seeing how it does come with 80 GIG, plus the Blu-Ray.... but NO games are included even during the Christmas time. I know that 360 Pro Model comes with Lego Indiana Jones & Kung Fu Panda (which doesn't scream buy me by a huge sector of 360 fans) but it still does come with free games!

But if ppl want to play Fall Out 3 or GTA 4 (or many AAA titles multi-plat) , would you rather spend $400 or $200?

sunnystarz

Considering the price has dropped by about £200 from release, the xbox has been out for a year longer and the online on xbox costs £40 a year and the wireless adapter is £65 compared to the free online for the ps3 I would say this is a very reasonable price.

[QUOTE="sunnystarz"]

The cheapest PS3 SKU (80 GB) is $400, it's still very valuable seeing how it does come with 80 GIG, plus the Blu-Ray.... but NO games are included even during the Christmas time. I know that 360 Pro Model comes with Lego Indiana Jones & Kung Fu Panda (which doesn't scream buy me by a huge sector of 360 fans) but it still does come with free games!

But if ppl want to play Fall Out 3 or GTA 4 (or many AAA titles multi-plat) , would you rather spend $400 or $200?

craigofadown

Considering the price has dropped by about £200 from release, the xbox has been out for a year longer and the online on xbox costs £40 a year and the wireless adapter is £65 compared to the free online for the ps3 I would say this is a very reasonable price.

[QUOTE="sunnystarz"]

The cheapest PS3 SKU (80 GB) is $400, it's still very valuable seeing how it does come with 80 GIG, plus the Blu-Ray.... but NO games are included even during the Christmas time. I know that 360 Pro Model comes with Lego Indiana Jones & Kung Fu Panda (which doesn't scream buy me by a huge sector of 360 fans) but it still does come with free games!

But if ppl want to play Fall Out 3 or GTA 4 (or many AAA titles multi-plat) , would you rather spend $400 or $200?

craigofadown

Considering the price has dropped by about £200 from release, the xbox has been out for a year longer and the online on xbox costs £40 a year and the wireless adapter is £65 compared to the free online for the ps3 I would say this is a very reasonable price.

SONY didn't just drop the price, they altered the PS3 to make production cheaper, they took out BC, removed some USB ports, removed the card readers and god knows what else.

People really need to quit with adding the "optional" stuff in to the 360, you don't need the wireless adapter to pop in a game and play it, the cheapest 360 SKU is 199 and it plays games straight out of the box without needing all the optional stuff.

Sony knows it won't be able to win a pricing war against Microsoft. This is a clear competitive advantage that MS has established. If Sony lowers the PS3 to $299, Microsoft will be able to match it with another 360 price drop of the premium to $199. I don't think that Sony wants to put more downward pressure in price on the 360 right now. After all, they themselves know the value a $199 price tag has on a console. That's when the PS2 really took off for them.

So rather than get into a pricing war with MS, Sony is trying to market the PS3 as a fully-featured console with free online, Blu-Ray, large hard drive, great looking games, etc. It's up to the consumer to decide if they want all those extra features for $200 more (if we're talking the 360 Arcade).

And besides, Sony is aiming for profitability here. They could care less what the fanboys think. They have access to their numbers and they have the analysts to determine what kind of profitability (or losses) they can expect if they go for a price drop. To the fanboys, they look at this as a horse race. They want their console to be 1st. Well it's not going to happen. Everybody knows the Wii is the clear winner this generation. My suggestion is to just love your system regardless and enjoy the games that come out for it. How your console "places" should have no bearing whatsoever on your enjoyment of it.

because sony is going for profitability this gen, its no longer about winning, its about obligations to shareholders, when you are a publicly traded company, you HAVE to have worry about keeping the guys who bought your stock happy, or they will sell and your whole company will collapse. If they werent still incurring losses on every unit sold, or the software was selling really really well, (except for MGS4) then maybe they could offset it somehow, but right now, its not going to happen, if they did, then it would only please fanboys and abandon the people who bought stock in you, which is more important????navyguy21

because sony is going for profitability this gen, its no longer about winning, its about obligations to shareholders, when you are a publicly traded company, you HAVE to have worry about keeping the guys who bought your stock happy, or they will sell and your whole company will collapse. If they werent still incurring losses on every unit sold, or the software was selling really really well, (except for MGS4) then maybe they could offset it somehow, but right now, its not going to happen, if they did, then it would only please fanboys and abandon the people who bought stock in you, which is more important????navyguy21

It has a blu-ray player and a next gen console in it For the price if you ask me it's a great value. Toriko42

Look on paper the Ps3 is a great value. But not many people are looking for that value now. Take that Blue Ray player out of there and it would be going head to head with the 360 right now.Cubs360

It would probably be destroying the 360 right now.

because sony is going for profitability this gen, its no longer about winning, its about obligations to shareholders, when you are a publicly traded company, you HAVE to have worry about keeping the guys who bought your stock happy, or they will sell and your whole company will collapse. If they werent still incurring losses on every unit sold, or the software was selling really really well, (except for MGS4) then maybe they could offset it somehow, but right now, its not going to happen, if they did, then it would only please fanboys and abandon the people who bought stock in you, which is more important????navyguy21

because sony is going for profitability this gen, its no longer about winning, its about obligations to shareholders, when you are a publicly traded company, you HAVE to have worry about keeping the guys who bought your stock happy, or they will sell and your whole company will collapse. If they werent still incurring losses on every unit sold, or the software was selling really really well, (except for MGS4) then maybe they could offset it somehow, but right now, its not going to happen, if they did, then it would only please fanboys and abandon the people who bought stock in you, which is more important????navyguy21

I don't even think thats what it is, SONY screwed up at the beginning of this gen, Krazy Ken spouting stupid comments, releasing a $600 GAME console, SONY over the past year or so has been trying to correct what went wrong in the first place, just look at how much they have altered their SKU's, they went from more USB ports, full BC, card readers, to what we have now.

[QUOTE="craigofadown"][QUOTE="sunnystarz"]

The cheapest PS3 SKU (80 GB) is $400, it's still very valuable seeing how it does come with 80 GIG, plus the Blu-Ray.... but NO games are included even during the Christmas time. I know that 360 Pro Model comes with Lego Indiana Jones & Kung Fu Panda (which doesn't scream buy me by a huge sector of 360 fans) but it still does come with free games!

But if ppl want to play Fall Out 3 or GTA 4 (or many AAA titles multi-plat) , would you rather spend $400 or $200?

cuddlesofwar

Considering the price has dropped by about £200 from release, the xbox has been out for a year longer and the online on xbox costs £40 a year and the wireless adapter is £65 compared to the free online for the ps3 I would say this is a very reasonable price.

Erm, since when can you use any other wireless adapter? Most adapters require drivers, which can not be installed on to the Xbox 360 hard drive. For that reason most people who don't want to manipulate the console will be forced to use the Microsoft WiFi adapterif they want a wireless connection. The price is around £55 though, not 65. It's a terrible piece of equipment though, thing broke on me in about 3 months. I don't even know why I bothered.

I don't get it either: free online, blu-ray, 3 systems in one (well, at the time...thank the cheap asses for that one...now it's 2), and people are still ungrateful? Well, the PS3 is gaining momentum, though. I'd say the price is justified. DethSkematik

Gaining momentum?:?

The PS3 has been losing momentum for months now. Why do you keep posting lies? Does it make you feel better? Are you just misinformed? Are you hoping to convince a PS2 owner or two that the PS3 is a great purchase? I don't get it.

because sony is going for profitability this gen, its no longer about winning, its about obligations to shareholders, when you are a publicly traded company, you HAVE to have worry about keeping the guys who bought your stock happy, or they will sell and your whole company will collapse. If they werent still incurring losses on every unit sold, or the software was selling really really well, (except for MGS4) then maybe they could offset it somehow, but right now, its not going to happen, if they did, then it would only please fanboys and abandon the people who bought stock in you, which is more important????navyguy21

And for some reason, people fail to realize this. This is why sales ARE important, even though we as gamers can't "play" them.

Erm, since when can you use any other wireless adapter? Most adapters require drivers, which can not be installed on to the Xbox 360 hard drive. For that reason most people who don't want to manipulate the console will be forced to use the Microsoft WiFi adapterif they want a wireless connection. The price is around £55 though, not 65. It's a terrible piece of equipment though, thing broke on me in about 3 months. I don't even know why I bothered.

WasntAvailable

You don't even have to use an adapter in the first place if you have a PC close to your XBox, as I assume plenty of people do. There's an Ethernet cable in the box.

The PS3 is a steal at 399 bucks!

Gaming_Guru_Guy

Erm, since when can you use any other wireless adapter? Most adapters require drivers, which can not be installed on to the Xbox 360 hard drive. For that reason most people who don't want to manipulate the console will be forced to use the Microsoft WiFi adapterif they want a wireless connection. The price is around £55 though, not 65. It's a terrible piece of equipment though, thing broke on me in about 3 months. I don't even know why I bothered.

You don't even have to use an adapter in the first place if you have a PC close to your XBox, as I assume plenty of people do. There's an Ethernet cable in the box.

[QUOTE="cuddlesofwar"][QUOTE="craigofadown"]

Considering the price has dropped by about £200 from release, the xbox has been out for a year longer and the online on xbox costs £40 a year and the wireless adapter is £65 compared to the free online for the ps3 I would say this is a very reasonable price.

WasntAvailable

Erm, since when can you use any other wireless adapter? Most adapters require drivers, which can not be installed on to the Xbox 360 hard drive. For that reason most people who don't want to manipulate the console will be forced to use the Microsoft WiFi adapterif they want a wireless connection. The price is around £55 though, not 65. It's a terrible piece of equipment though, thing broke on me in about 3 months. I don't even know why I bothered.

I don't know of another usb adapter that will work but you can use a wireless access point.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817201523

I agree that the $99 wireless adapter is lame, they need to cut the price in half. A cheaper wireless adapter would encourage more people to use live.

I don't get it either: free online, blu-ray, 3 systems in one (well, at the time...thank the cheap asses for that one...now it's 2), and people are still ungrateful? Well, the PS3 is gaining momentum, though. I'd say the price is justified. DethSkematik

The PS3 is a steal at 399 bucks!

The PS3 is a steal at 399 bucks!

because sony is going for profitability this gen, its no longer about winning, its about obligations to shareholders, when you are a publicly traded company, you HAVE to have worry about keeping the guys who bought your stock happy, or they will sell and your whole company will collapse. If they werent still incurring losses on every unit sold, or the software was selling really really well, (except for MGS4) then maybe they could offset it somehow, but right now, its not going to happen, if they did, then it would only please fanboys and abandon the people who bought stock in you, which is more important????navyguy21

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]because sony is going for profitability this gen, its no longer about winning, its about obligations to shareholders, when you are a publicly traded company, you HAVE to have worry about keeping the guys who bought your stock happy, or they will sell and your whole company will collapse. If they werent still incurring losses on every unit sold, or the software was selling really really well, (except for MGS4) then maybe they could offset it somehow, but right now, its not going to happen, if they did, then it would only please fanboys and abandon the people who bought stock in you, which is more important????kevbo77

[QUOTE="craigofadown"][QUOTE="sunnystarz"]

The cheapest PS3 SKU (80 GB) is $400, it's still very valuable seeing how it does come with 80 GIG, plus the Blu-Ray.... but NO games are included even during the Christmas time. I know that 360 Pro Model comes with Lego Indiana Jones & Kung Fu Panda (which doesn't scream buy me by a huge sector of 360 fans) but it still does come with free games!

But if ppl want to play Fall Out 3 or GTA 4 (or many AAA titles multi-plat) , would you rather spend $400 or $200?

Nagidar

Considering the price has dropped by about £200 from release, the xbox has been out for a year longer and the online on xbox costs £40 a year and the wireless adapter is £65 compared to the free online for the ps3 I would say this is a very reasonable price.

SONY didn't just drop the price, they altered the PS3 to make production cheaper, they took out BC, removed some USB ports, removed the card readers and god knows what else.

People really need to quit with adding the "optional" stuff in to the 360, you don't need the wireless adapter to pop in a game and play it, the cheapest 360 SKU is 199 and it plays games straight out of the box without needing all the optional stuff.

An 80 gig with 4 usb with BC costs $400.

So at launch, it was 60 gig with BC with 4 usb for 600, now it has -$200 with +20 gigs.