I dunno about final fantasy 13

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#1 joshallrad33
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http://www.gametrailers.com/video/tgs-09-final-fantasy/57151

So i just watched the trailer. I've played videogames for awhile now, and ive often defended them as a medium for conveying a unique storytelling experience. I cite games like the bioshock, mass effect, deus ex, and even the minimalistic half-life series. Unfortunately, a game like this comes along and everyone praises it for its story and even its writing. I know its a translation, and the beauty of a language is apparant only in that language. However, this is cliche garbage; with borderline pedophyllic art, rediculous gasping sound effects, and what ammounts to little more than a tribute to a western influenced errosion of popular culture. Oh and the games mechanics seem borderline archaic in this day and age. Not too mention the transition from cgi to gameplay is jarring.

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#2 ThePRAssassin
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What I wanna know is how old that girl is. Snow looks like he's 22 and she looks half that.

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#3 2mrw
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it's a FF game, so no matter how much you complain, you will get it eventually.

i feel like the voice acting is the worst thing abt this game, it's that bad.

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#4 PannicAtack
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I'll never understand what it is that makes Final Fantasy one of the most divisive franchises in all of gaming.

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#5 _Tobli_
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TC, FF13 is my most anticipated game by far. If it's not your cup of tea, fine. Why should you care if different developers cater to different audiences?

TC, do you think very rpg should have real time combat?

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#6 110million
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I think its awesome and I'm more hyped then ever, day one buy. :D
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#7 Bigboi500
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Since when does a game have to live within the same standards as reality? You don't like it? Good for you. I can't wait to play this game.
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#8 dreman999
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[QUOTE="_Tobli_"]

TC, FF13 is my most anticipated game by far. If it's not your cup of tea, fine. Why should you care if different developers cater to different audiences?

TC, do you think very rpg should have real time combat?

I love FF ever since ff6 and I have to agree with the tc .
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#9 _Tobli_
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I love FF ever since ff6 and I have to agree with the tc .dreman999

How is that relevant to my quote?

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#10 110million
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[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="_Tobli_"]

TC, FF13 is my most anticipated game by far. If it's not your cup of tea, fine. Why should you care if different developers cater to different audiences?

TC, do you think very rpg should have real time combat?

I love FF ever since ff6 and I have to agree with the tc .

I love FF ever since ff1, and I disagree with the tc. :D
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What I wanna know is how old that girl is. Snow looks like he's 22 and she looks half that.

ThePRAssassin

Really? She looks like she's at least 17.

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#12 jasonharris48
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I've been playing the FF series since FF4 hit the States on the SNES and I have to disagree with TC. Plus it is a RPG from a Japanese dev what do you expect? Have you ever played FFX, theTales of games and most NIS/Gust games?

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OMG the dialogue is sooooo bad. they some how manage to put every cliche love story/drama line into this game. Honestly it was so excruciating hearing them talk about some generic "problem" we've seen so many times b4.

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[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="_Tobli_"]

TC, FF13 is my most anticipated game by far. If it's not your cup of tea, fine. Why should you care if different developers cater to different audiences?

TC, do you think very rpg should have real time combat?

I love FF ever since ff6 and I have to agree with the tc .

I love FF ever since ff1, and I disagree with the tc. :D

To me it just feels that the story is fill with all this cheese chiche story arks the are taken from ff7.
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#15 Lionheart08
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I love FF ever since ff1, and I disagree with the tc. :Ddreman999
To me it just feels that the story is fill with all this cheese chiche story arks the are taken from ff7.

If you look hard enough at most games, you can notice how predictable or cliche the story is. Doesn't stop them from being good.

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[QUOTE="ThePRAssassin"]

What I wanna know is how old that girl is. Snow looks like he's 22 and she looks half that.

DevilDude3232

Really? She looks like she's at least 17.

I don't know, guess it's just me. All I know is that Snow looks way too old for her.

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#17 110million
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[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="dreman999"] I love FF ever since ff6 and I have to agree with the tc .dreman999
I love FF ever since ff1, and I disagree with the tc. :D

To me it just feels that the story is fill with all this cheese chiche story arks the are taken from ff7.

Its a 7 minute trailer, the game will have several hours of story, and, they obviously aren't going to reveal major plot twists in early trailers.. this is worse then judging a game by a demo.. judging it by an unfinished game trailer...
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#18 NAPK1NS
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What I wanna know is how old that girl is. Snow looks like he's 22 and she looks half that.

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Sarah. It's Lightning's sister. Serah and Snow are engaged... I think?
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#19 Bigboi500
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If you look hard enough at most games, you can notice how predictable or cliche the story is. Doesn't stop them from being good.

Lionheart08

Exactly. Most if not all genres have the same problems and recycle situations and story. I don't know why RPGs are always conveniently spotlighted for that.

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#20 NAPK1NS
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Heads up here, guys: The voices in the trailer are just a dub. Those aren't the real voice actors that will be in the game.
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#21 Lionheart08
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Heads up here, guys: The voices in the trailer are just a dub. Those aren't the real voice actors that will be in the game. NAPK1NS

So what, it was a fan dub?

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#22 NAPK1NS
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[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"]Heads up here, guys: The voices in the trailer are just a dub. Those aren't the real voice actors that will be in the game. Lionheart08

So what, it was a fan dub?

Joystiq said it was a dub but I really think I should double check that. After watching it... I thought it sounded pretty great. Kill the japanese pop music and sync up the lips (which is going to happen for the American release) and I think we could have a pretty strong cast here.
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#23 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"]Heads up here, guys: The voices in the trailer are just a dub. Those aren't the real voice actors that will be in the game. Lionheart08

So what, it was a fan dub?

There is absolutely no way a fandub could afford the girl who did Reimi in Star Ocean Last Hope. (She did Sarah in this)
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#24 AssassinFonce
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god, this looks great. and for the record, god guys, you have no memory. This isn't the real dub. See the E32009 trailer to hear the voices.
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#25 110million
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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"]Heads up here, guys: The voices in the trailer are just a dub. Those aren't the real voice actors that will be in the game. NAPK1NS

So what, it was a fan dub?

Joystiq said it was a dub but I really think I should double check that. After watching it... I thought it sounded pretty great. Kill the japanese pop music and sync up the lips (which is going to happen for the American release) and I think we could have a pretty strong cast here.

Dub just means.. its not in the original language. :P
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#26 ActicEdge
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Its basically Final Fantasy turning into a soap opera. What could possibly be a bad one. However, I think there's a good chance it will be great. We'll see.

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#27 hakanakumono
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Final Fantasy XIII doesn't have "archaic" gameplay; it's something new. Of course, you probably know very little about XIII and just did this to troll.

Anyways, Snowe is probably in his early 20s and Serah plans to go to university next year, so she very well could be 18 even.

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#28 lordlors
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[QUOTE="dreman999"]I love FF ever since ff1, and I disagree with the tc. :DLionheart08

To me it just feels that the story is fill with all this cheese chiche story arks the are taken from ff7.

If you look hard enough at most games, you can notice how predictable or cliche the story is. Doesn't stop them from being good.

gamers have low standards in the storytelling and plot no offense. the only thing why games have bad/generic stories because most gamers are satisfied with these kinds of stories. Therefore, the companies would think why improve the story? it will cost more yet not generate more sales. There are a few that have good stories but they're usually unpopular. Dreamfall comes to mind.

great stories can improve a game depending on its genre especially the RPG department. you saying "doesn't stop them from being good." just shows how gamers have low standards in the story department and how they don't care at all resulting to no actual development of storytelling in games and even hindering it.

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#29 ActicEdge
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Btw, how old are some of you making the age comment? I go to high school, I know what 12 year olds look like and what 18 year olds look like. The difference is big, if you can't see how this character is not obviously older than12 there is something wrong.

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Btw, how old are some of you making the age comment? I go to high school, I know what 12 year olds look like and what 18 year olds look like. The difference is big, if you can't see how this character is not obviously older than12 there is something wrong.

ActicEdge

We already know that she's going to enter University next year as well ... So ... that should give us a pretty good picture of her age ...

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#31 110million
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Its basically Final Fantasy turning into a soap opera. What could possibly be a bad one. However, I think there's a good chance it will be great. We'll see.

ActicEdge
What makes it a soap opera? The fact that theres a relationship going on? My grandma watches soap operas quite regularly, and from what I've seen, theres yet to be one quite like this.
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#32 110million
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Btw, how old are some of you making the age comment? I go to high school, I know what 12 year olds look like and what 18 year olds look like. The difference is big, if you can't see how this character is not obviously older than12 there is something wrong.

hakanakumono

We already know that she's going to enter University next year as well ... So ... that should give us a pretty good picture of her age ...

Shes even modeled after someone who is 18 or so, I don't remember the full story, but I believe it was someone in a profession where you have to be 18+...
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#33 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Btw, how old are some of you making the age comment? I go to high school, I know what 12 year olds look like and what 18 year olds look like. The difference is big, if you can't see how this character is not obviously older than12 there is something wrong.

hakanakumono

We already know that she's going to enter University next year as well ... So ... that should give us a pretty good picture of her age ...

Whoops, the "not" isn't suspose to be there. It was suspose to read:

if you can't see how this character is obviously older than12 there is something wrong.

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#34 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Its basically Final Fantasy turning into a soap opera. What could possibly be a bad one. However, I think there's a good chance it will be great. We'll see.

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What makes it a soap opera? The fact that theres a relationship going on? My grandma watches soap operas quite regularly, and from what I've seen, theres yet to be one quite like this.

Its actually an inside joke with my friends about how everything is so over acted in the dub to the point where it sounds like a cheesy plot filled soap opera lol. Not that I think itsgoing to be bad or anything, it just might annoy me like any part of the Aeris/Cloud relationshio in 7.But I would hope your grandma isn't watching soap operas about caccoon and star wars like architurre and battles :P

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#35 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Btw, how old are some of you making the age comment? I go to high school, I know what 12 year olds look like and what 18 year olds look like. The difference is big, if you can't see how this character is not obviously older than12 there is something wrong.

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We already know that she's going to enter University next year as well ... So ... that should give us a pretty good picture of her age ...

Shes even modeled after someone who is 18 or so, I don't remember the full story, but I believe it was someone in a profession where you have to be 18+...

Come to think of it ... one of the Japanese TAs in my class is probably 21 and is smaller than Serah. >_>;

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#36 uglyhippos
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[QUOTE="DevilDude3232"]

[QUOTE="ThePRAssassin"]

What I wanna know is how old that girl is. Snow looks like he's 22 and she looks half that.

ThePRAssassin

Really? She looks like she's at least 17.

I don't know, guess it's just me. All I know is that Snow looks way too old for her.

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Im not trying to start an argument but I agree with thePRAssassin. If you din't know anything about the game and this is your first time seeing it. You would think she looks like a freshmen in high school. I just got out of high school so its not im not in touch with how young people look now days. But again Ellen Page is 23 and she still looks like a teenager. And in my senior year of high school teachers thought i was a freshmen. So they are people who look really young to what they actually are.
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#37 LastRedMage
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[QUOTE="ThePRAssassin"]

[QUOTE="DevilDude3232"]

Really? She looks like she's at least 17.

uglyhippos

I don't know, guess it's just me. All I know is that Snow looks way too old for her.

Co-Producer - R. Kelly?

Im not trying to start an argument but I agree with thePRAssassin. If you din't know anything about the game and this is your first time seeing it. You would think she looks like a freshmen in high school. I just got out of high school so its not im not in touch with how young people look now days. But again Ellen Page is 23 and she still looks like a teenager. And in my senior year of high school teachers thought i was a freshmen. So they are people who look really young to what they actually are.

yeah she's just a loli
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#38 110million
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[QUOTE="uglyhippos"][QUOTE="ThePRAssassin"]

I don't know, guess it's just me. All I know is that Snow looks way too old for her.

Co-Producer - R. Kelly?

LastRedMage

Im not trying to start an argument but I agree with thePRAssassin. If you din't know anything about the game and this is your first time seeing it. You would think she looks like a freshmen in high school. I just got out of high school so its not im not in touch with how young people look now days. But again Ellen Page is 23 and she still looks like a teenager. And in my senior year of high school teachers thought i was a freshmen. So they are people who look really young to what they actually are.

yeah she's just a loli

I am offended by this remark, shes far too old to look like a loli.

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#39 enterawesome
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That's the trailer, I'd expect that kind of cliche'-ness. Trust me, FF always starts pretty corny and ramps up to an epic, uber-serious state after the beginning. Also, how is the gameplay archaic? It looks hella' fun, like a fusion of action packed... action and turn-based mechanics.
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#40 TalesofRaGnArOk
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itt: people talking about a series they've never played before

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#41 Mattizzle815
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The last good FF imo was IX... Yeah I said it

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#42 110million
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The last good FF imo was IX... Yeah I said it

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I respectfully disagree. :) I didn't like X much, but XII I enjoyed a lot, I won't mention XI since people feel strongly for or against it anyway.
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#43 MikeT072
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The last good FF imo was IX... Yeah I said it

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X was pretty good, but XII was kind of a mess.
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#44 cloudff7tm
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I don't really care how bad the voices sound. Im getting it no matter what. Japanese voices would be nice, but what ev.

I must applaud SE though. Nearly all the guys I seen actually look like guys from what I remember. But then there's the hair.

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#45 tubbyc
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Well FFX didn't have great voice acting and I still thought it was amazing. This gen has been lacking in great RPGs of this style, so I'm really looking forward to it.

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#46 jasonharris48
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[QUOTE="Mattizzle815"]

The last good FF imo was IX... Yeah I said it

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I respectfully disagree. :) I didn't like X much, but XII I enjoyed a lot, I won't mention XI since people feel strongly for or against it anyway.

I agree with you. I put FFX in he same league as FF3 (original and DS remake, FF5, FF: Mystic Quest). I loved FFXII for the most part and as fo XI it was the only MMORPG I was able to get into.

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#47 get-ka12
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I think versus 13 looks better than regular 13.
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#48 MJPK
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I think versus 13 looks better than regular 13.get-ka12

It's kinda annoys me when people say that.We know nothing about versus.All we have is 2 trailers.Yes I'm really looking foward to it but it's impossible to say it's going to or is looking better when we have zero information on it.

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#49 SilverChimera
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Being a Final Fantasy fan, I'm buying it, but honestly the voice acting are sucks. just doesn't feel right. I'd prefer if they just use the text bubbles like on the PS1 and before.
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#50 jasonharris48
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I think versus 13 looks better than regular 13.get-ka12
Thats kind of funny considering we don't even know the game plays out yet. Also the fact there only a few trailers out and little information about the story and characters.