I finally understand Sony..

They could care less about losing exclusive games. They have the upper edge all the long when bluray won the format war. Losing FF13 seemed like a big blow but after thinking, sales will not be affected much. Why is this so? What they are aiming for is that the ps3 is the cheapest bluray player so sales will always increase even if all exclusives are snatched away.

[sarcarsm]Smart move Sony.[/sarcarsm]

They could care less about losing exclusive games. They have the upper edge all the long when bluray won the format war. Losing FF13 seemed like a big blow but after thinking, sales will not be affected much. Why is this so? What they are aiming for is that the ps3 is the cheapest bluray player so sales will always increase even if all exclusives are snatched away.

Smart move Sony.

enral

They also invested more on 1st part years ago, knowing that 3rd party exclusives are less and less viable.

DVD is still winning the format war.Jandurin

And yeah, even if the PS3 were to be discontinued today due to lack of sales Sony could still call it a success because it helped Blu-Ray get a foot in the door.

They could care less about losing exclusive games. They have the upper edge all the long when bluray won the format war. Losing FF13 seemed like a big blow but after thinking, sales will not be affected much. Why is this so? What they are aiming for is that the ps3 is the cheapest bluray player so sales will always increase even if all exclusives are snatched away.

Smart move Sony.

enral

Personally I feel the same way about the PS3 being used only to win the format war. It's one of the reasons why I keep myself from buying a PS3 (besides not many games that interest me). I felt the same way about the PS2, but with the PS2 there were a ton of games that I wanted, as well as being able to play PSOne games that I skipped out on due to skipping that gen for PC gaming. This time around though, there's not really anything that's must have for me, and I have a huge (and I really mean huge) collection of DVDs, so I'm not really looking to trade up at this point.

Or maybe they are focusing on their 1st party games? ONLYDOD

Yes, but with their ultimate backup plan - The cheapest and best bluray player on the market, ps3 sales will only increase.

[QUOTE="ONLYDOD"]Or maybe they are focusing on their 1st party games? enral

Yes, but with their ultimate backup plan - The cheapest and best bluray player on the market, ps3 sales will only increase.

It was most definitley part of their stratergy, like with the PS2, alot of people bought it as a DVD player, and when Blu Ray becomes more widespread, alot of people will buy a PS3 like they did a PS2. They will get a Blu Ray player, games machine and general multi media system in one, and you can bet alot of people will like the sound of something like that when the price becomes more affordable, well that's my view on it.

[QUOTE="ONLYDOD"]Or maybe they are focusing on their 1st party games? enral

Yes, but with their ultimate backup plan - The cheapest and best bluray player on the market, ps3 sales will only increase.

How can this make you happy?

You basicly end up with a console you only use for movies.

So they are basicly aiming for nintendos strategy minus the good exclusives?Kirlok

You could say that. I would say 1st party would be their main plan this generation with bluray as a strong backup.

I wasn't even aware that DVD was counted as a player in the war.

gamefreakomega

They could care less about losing exclusive games. They have the upper edge all the long when bluray won the format war. Losing FF13 seemed like a big blow but after thinking, sales will not be affected much. Why is this so? What they are aiming for is that the ps3 is the cheapest bluray player so sales will always increase even if all exclusives are snatched away.

Smart move Sony.

enral

Sony is smart, they don't give a damn about FFXIII, they showed much more new games at E3 than m$....now the lems are OMG FFXII!!!! Sony got owned, yeah right, like it is a 360 exclusive...The lems finally get one great game for 09 and than it's chaos..who gives a damn?

[QUOTE="enral"]

[QUOTE="ONLYDOD"]Or maybe they are focusing on their 1st party games? Kirlok

Yes, but with their ultimate backup plan - The cheapest and best bluray player on the market, ps3 sales will only increase.

How can this make you happy?

You basicly end up with a console you only use for movies.

This would be true, if there weren't several PS3 games worth playing.

[QUOTE="gamefreakomega"]

I wasn't even aware that DVD was counted as a player in the war.

Jandurin

I guess, but I always thought that the format war was to decide what format would be the successor to DVD.

[QUOTE="Kirlok"]So they are basicly aiming for nintendos strategy minus the good exclusives?enral

You could say that. I would say 1st party would be their main plan this generation with bluray as a strong backup.

I dont think people expect that from the succesor of the best console (by far) last gen.

They could care less about losing exclusive games. They have the upper edge all the long when bluray won the format war. Losing FF13 seemed like a big blow but after thinking, sales will not be affected much. Why is this so? What they are aiming for is that the ps3 is the cheapest bluray player so sales will always increase even if all exclusives are snatched away.

Smart move Sony.

enral

Smart move?

So they sale more PS3's......lose money in the process. Then they don't get the money when game software is sold because they are all Blu-ray users who own the console....not gamers. Sony ends up with a higher userbase and half the software sales of X360.

That's a smart move? honestly your probably right but this is exactly why they are losing exclusives from 3rd party devs (and losing titles completely). You still think it's a smart move?

I guess, but I always thought that the format war was to decide what format would be the successor to DVD.

gamefreakomega

[QUOTE="enral"]

[QUOTE="ONLYDOD"]Or maybe they are focusing on their 1st party games? Kirlok

Yes, but with their ultimate backup plan - The cheapest and best bluray player on the market, ps3 sales will only increase.

How can this make you happy?

You basicly end up with a console you only use for movies and games.

Fixed. Sony is also focusing strongly on their 1st party this generation. If we all take out our fanboy glasses, we can see that multiplatform games are still games. I'm not happy with Sony though.

[QUOTE="enral"]

They could care less about losing exclusive games. They have the upper edge all the long when bluray won the format war. Losing FF13 seemed like a big blow but after thinking, sales will not be affected much. Why is this so? What they are aiming for is that the ps3 is the cheapest bluray player so sales will always increase even if all exclusives are snatched away.

Smart move Sony.

darthogre

Smart move?

So they sale more PS3's......lose money in the process. Then they don't get the money when game software is sold because they are all Blu-ray users who own the console....not gamers. Sony ends up with a higher userbase and half the software sales of X360.

That's a smart move? honestly your probably right but this is exactly why they are losing exclusives from 3rd party devs (and losing titles completely). You still think it's a smart move?

I'm being sarcarstic when I mentioned smart move.

[QUOTE="gamefreakomega"]

I guess, but I always thought that the format war was to decide what format would be the eventual successor to DVD.

Jandurin

Better?

[QUOTE="Kirlok"][QUOTE="enral"]

[QUOTE="ONLYDOD"]Or maybe they are focusing on their 1st party games? gamefreakomega

Yes, but with their ultimate backup plan - The cheapest and best bluray player on the market, ps3 sales will only increase.

How can this make you happy?

You basicly end up with a console you only use for movies.

This would be true, if there weren't several PS3 games worth playing.

True but so far there is no 'ever green' game on the ps3.

[QUOTE="enral"]

They could care less about losing exclusive games. They have the upper edge all the long when bluray won the format war. Losing FF13 seemed like a big blow but after thinking, sales will not be affected much. Why is this so? What they are aiming for is that the ps3 is the cheapest bluray player so sales will always increase even if all exclusives are snatched away.

Smart move Sony.

Al3x_n90

Sony is smart, they don't give a damn about FFXIII, they showed much more new games at E3 than m$....now the lems are OMG FFXII!!!! Sony got owned, yeah right, like it is a 360 exclusive...The lems finally get one great game for 09 and than it's chaos..who gives a damn?

Cows give a dam because it's one of the top selling franchises of the playstation brand. It's something that would definetley be considered a system seller, something they really need. Now it's just another multiplat that won't move consoles probably......just like GTA4.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="gamefreakomega"]

I wasn't even aware that DVD was counted as a player in the war.

gamefreakomega

I guess, but I always thought that the format war was to decide what format would be the successor to DVD.

but if DVD is still at the top 5 years from now, that wouldnt be succeeding it would it?

[QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="enral"]

They could care less about losing exclusive games. They have the upper edge all the long when bluray won the format war. Losing FF13 seemed like a big blow but after thinking, sales will not be affected much. Why is this so? What they are aiming for is that the ps3 is the cheapest bluray player so sales will always increase even if all exclusives are snatched away.

Smart move Sony.

enral

Smart move?

So they sale more PS3's......lose money in the process. Then they don't get the money when game software is sold because they are all Blu-ray users who own the console....not gamers. Sony ends up with a higher userbase and half the software sales of X360.

That's a smart move? honestly your probably right but this is exactly why they are losing exclusives from 3rd party devs (and losing titles completely). You still think it's a smart move?

I'm being sarcarstic when I mentioned smart move.

lol, it's hard to tell......damage control is on full alert and from what I've noticed people are still thinking Sony did the right thing. Your post was very believable.

[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"][QUOTE="enral"]

They could care less about losing exclusive games. They have the upper edge all the long when bluray won the format war. Losing FF13 seemed like a big blow but after thinking, sales will not be affected much. Why is this so? What they are aiming for is that the ps3 is the cheapest bluray player so sales will always increase even if all exclusives are snatched away.

Smart move Sony.

darthogre

Sony is smart, they don't give a damn about FFXIII, they showed much more new games at E3 than m$....now the lems are OMG FFXII!!!! Sony got owned, yeah right, like it is a 360 exclusive...The lems finally get one great game for 09 and than it's chaos..who gives a damn?

Cows give a dam because it's one of the top selling franchises of the playstation brand. It's something that would definetley be considered a system seller, something they really need. Now it's just another multiplat that won't move consoles probably......just like GTA4.

Versus is still a ps3 exclusive you know.. eh, who gives a damn, as long as i can play the game?

[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"][QUOTE="enral"]

They could care less about losing exclusive games. They have the upper edge all the long when bluray won the format war. Losing FF13 seemed like a big blow but after thinking, sales will not be affected much. Why is this so? What they are aiming for is that the ps3 is the cheapest bluray player so sales will always increase even if all exclusives are snatched away.

Smart move Sony.

darthogre

Sony is smart, they don't give a damn about FFXIII, they showed much more new games at E3 than m$....now the lems are OMG FFXII!!!! Sony got owned, yeah right, like it is a 360 exclusive...The lems finally get one great game for 09 and than it's chaos..who gives a damn?

Cows give a dam because it's one of the top selling franchises of the playstation brand. It's something that would definetley be considered a system seller, something they really need. Now it's just another multiplat that won't move consoles probably......just like GTA4.

I agree. But apparantly some smart company did not see the value of any 3rd party exclusives anymore and decided to go the wii route.

first like i have said before sony is not stupid wasting money on a game that will sell the most on there console any ways. japan will be the most sold anyways wich = ps 3. NA are not interested in jrpg any more they all about what fps has the best on-lline game. last gen the ps 2 no on-line play like today so more people were into jrpg not this gen were all about on-line play this is why non of 360 jrp sold that much here.GARRYTH

hrmmmm, this whole "it will sell the most on PS3 anyways"....you still believe that after everyone spammed it constantly when GTA4 was announced as a multiplat? I believe the sales tell the story......X360 sales > PS3 sales for GTA4. Why would it be any different for this game? Heck I'm waiting for MS to announced exclusive DLC for FF13 soon....you know it's coming.

So basically what this thread is saying is MOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Sony is soooo great for giving us this BR player that just happens to play a few games as well.

Since when was any PS a movie player 1st and gaming console 2nd. The PS2 was a gaming console 1st and foremost and a movie player 2nd. Oh yeah Sony was sooooo smart for forgetting about the people that made the PS brand what it is today.

[QUOTE="GARRYTH"]first like i have said before sony is not stupid wasting money on a game that will sell the most on there console any ways. japan will be the most sold anyways wich = ps 3. NA are not interested in jrpg any more they all about what fps has the best on-lline game. last gen the ps 2 no on-line play like today so more people were into jrpg not this gen were all about on-line play this is why non of 360 jrp sold that much here.darthogre

hrmmmm, this whole "it will sell the most on PS3 anyways"....you still believe that after everyone spammed it constantly when GTA4 was announced as a multiplat? I believe the sales tell the story......X360 sales > PS3 sales for GTA4. Why would it be any different for this game? Heck I'm waiting for MS to announced exclusive DLC for FF13 soon....you know it's coming.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="gamefreakomega"]

I guess, but I always thought that the format war was to decide what format would be the eventual successor to DVD.

gamefreakomega

Better?

Sony has the biggest first party developers with Microsoft game studios coming very close so they dont worry much about 3rd party like SquareEnix. Also there was a list of exclusive games coming for all the consoles and sony had the most and yes Bluray is helping increase the sales because its a buy factor between the PS3 and any other console. MS knows this and they will probably come with a bluray 360 next year or for the 720.Hitman533

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there is so many

more than nin and micrsoft put together.

[QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="Al3x_n90"][QUOTE="enral"]

They could care less about losing exclusive games. They have the upper edge all the long when bluray won the format war. Losing FF13 seemed like a big blow but after thinking, sales will not be affected much. Why is this so? What they are aiming for is that the ps3 is the cheapest bluray player so sales will always increase even if all exclusives are snatched away.

Smart move Sony.

enral

Sony is smart, they don't give a damn about FFXIII, they showed much more new games at E3 than m$....now the lems are OMG FFXII!!!! Sony got owned, yeah right, like it is a 360 exclusive...The lems finally get one great game for 09 and than it's chaos..who gives a damn?

Cows give a dam because it's one of the top selling franchises of the playstation brand. It's something that would definetley be considered a system seller, something they really need. Now it's just another multiplat that won't move consoles probably......just like GTA4.

I agree. But apparantly some smart company did not see the value of any 3rd party exclusives anymore and decided to go the wii route.

Btw this reminded me about how much Nintendos E3 sucked :|

I miss the days when Sony made gaming consoles.jeffdoomsday

So basically what this thread is saying is MOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Sony is soooo great for giving us this BR player that just happens to play a few games as well.

Since when was any PS a movie player 1st and gaming console 2nd. The PS2 was a gaming console 1st and foremost and a movie player 2nd. Oh yeah Sony was sooooo smart for forgetting about the people that made the PS brand what it is today.

kingtito

Get your facts straight, I'm infact bashing Sony on the direction they are taking. I'm an avid gamer and only owned a ps3 because I can only afford one. Apparently Sony played a totally different game this gen and pissed the hell out of me.

[QUOTE="GARRYTH"]first like i have said before sony is not stupid wasting money on a game that will sell the most on there console any ways. japan will be the most sold anyways wich = ps 3. NA are not interested in jrpg any more they all about what fps has the best on-lline game. last gen the ps 2 no on-line play like today so more people were into jrpg not this gen were all about on-line play this is why non of 360 jrp sold that much here.darthogre

hrmmmm, this whole "it will sell the most on PS3 anyways"....you still believe that after everyone spammed it constantly when GTA4 was announced as a multiplat? I believe the sales tell the story......X360 sales > PS3 sales for GTA4. Why would it be any different for this game? Heck I'm waiting for MS to announced exclusive DLC for FF13 soon....you know it's coming.

So they are basicly aiming for nintendos strategy minus the good exclusives?Kirlok

It's how you beome more profitable. There is no way M$ is making money on Xbox buying all these exclusives and with the cost of RROD.

DVD is still winning the format war.Jandurin

VHS outsold DVD when DVD was new. Big deal. DVD sales are slowing down. Bluray sales are going up. Always follow the growing market.

Get your facts straight, I'm infact bashing Sony on the direction they are taking. I'm an avid gamer and only owned a ps3 because I can only afford one. Apparently Sony played a totally different game this gen and pissed the hell out of me.

enral

NA are not interested in jrpg any more they all about what fps has the best on-lline game. GARRYTH

I forgot to say this.......

FFX sales : Japan 3 million Everyone else: Almost 5 million

This was the first FF on the PS2 so I would have expected to see the same type of sales on the PS3 when 13 was released.

Having this game a mutliplat outside of Japan is HUGE. Everyone seems to think this game only sales in Japan, that is wrong, wrong, wrong.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]DVD is still winning the format war.Bread_or_Decide

VHS outsold DVD when DVD was new. Big deal. DVD sales are slowing down. Bluray sales are going up. Always follow the growing market.

I miss the days when Sony made gaming consoles.jeffdoomsday

Yes because PS3 doesn't play games......:roll:

I just imagined my 8 PS3 games. They don't really exist.

[QUOTE="Kirlok"]So they are basicly aiming for nintendos strategy minus the good exclusives?-Renegade

It's how you beome more profitable. There is no way M$ is making money on Xbox buying all these exclusives and with the cost of RROD.

They are making profit per xbox 360 sold since quite a while now, besides they have the highest software sales. Even if it isnt a huge profit, they are making money.

Everyone seems to think this game only sales in Japan, that is wrong, wrong, wrong.

darthogre

[QUOTE="darthogre"]

Everyone seems to think this game only sales in Japan, that is wrong, wrong, wrong.

Jandurin