I hate the sony brand but I am jealous of one fact that the psn has

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#1 Kidtendo
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Dedicated Servers. I hate the fact that almost every xbox live game is peer to peer. This ruins alot of games expeirence. For example, Gears of War has a huge host advantage when ping is involved. Also, it sucks in call of duty 4 when the host is getting his arse handed to him and he decides to quit and the whole game ends. Why does xbox live not support dedicated servers?
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#2 FreewayScruff
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though it is for only 3 games it is still more than what XBL has done in 2 years, AND those 3games are the most active games on PSN, and I believe that dedicated servers will keep coming for games that wage a lot of traffic
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#3 ghoulsandghost
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because they love to charge ppl who are willing to pay for P2p servesr (which are free outside of xbl lol)
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#4 VideoGameGuy
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Where is that $50 going?
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#5 jimm895
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The number one reason I like the PS3 and the Sony products is they don't milk the consumer on something everyone else does for free.
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#6 GARRYTH
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how can you hate a less defective/more powerful system?
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#7 whodeysay85
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I love PSN, its pretty lag free and free!
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#8 OGTiago
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no it doesn't, not on every game. I could also say 360 has dedicated servers. It's up to game dev's, nothing to do with PSN or XBL
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The number one reason I like the PS3 and the Sony products is they don't milk the consumer on something everyone else does for free.jimm895
I totally agree. Paying $40 for a demo is defiantely not milking. :roll:

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#10 ghoulsandghost
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no it doesn't, not on every game. I could also say 360 has dedicated servers. It's up to game dev's, nothing to do with PSN or XBLOGTiago
but we all know they dont, unless its a MMO. but psn all games are dedicated if they have MP. :)
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[QUOTE="OGTiago"]no it doesn't, not on every game. I could also say 360 has dedicated servers. It's up to game dev's, nothing to do with PSN or XBLghoulsandghost
but we all know they dont, unless its a MMO. but psn all games are dedicated if they have MP. :)

nope, only first party games have to be dedicated, third partys have an option to make there online dedicated servers, but they aren't required. some companies dont want to upkeep servers, so they just make there online P2P.
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[QUOTE="jimm895"]The number one reason I like the PS3 and the Sony products is they don't milk the consumer on something everyone else does for free.Aljosa23

I totally agree. Paying $40 for a demo is defiantely not milking. :roll:

Learn something before talking. GT has always had prologues. They've sold them before. This is something new to System Wars I guess. This isn't a demo either, it's a prologue. You get a ton of cars+features+online+tracks. That's no demo. It's for hardcore GT fans. Noone forces you to pay for it like they do for GOLD.

And yes, I love PSN. Dedicated servers are amazing. In CoD4, they'll patch it though and add host migration so the next best connection becomes host. I'm 100% sure this is for the PS3 but I don't know about the 360.

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#13 Jack_Bauer07
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Where is that $50 going?VideoGameGuy

I'm guessing RROD repairs

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[QUOTE="OGTiago"]no it doesn't, not on every game. I could also say 360 has dedicated servers. It's up to game dev's, nothing to do with PSN or XBLghoulsandghost
but we all know they dont, unless its a MMO. but psn all games are dedicated if they have MP. :)

LMAO, look at my sig, definately not. One example is COD4, which is p2p; I know it's hard to notice, but... zomg it should lag because p2p :cry:
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#15 Ontain
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any game can have dedicated servers. it's depends on the developer/publisher not the console.
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#17 ejstrup
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[QUOTE="jimm895"]The number one reason I like the PS3 and the Sony products is they don't milk the consumer on something everyone else does for free.Aljosa23

I totally agree. Paying $40 for a demo is defiantely not milking. :roll:

it beats paying for profile pictures though

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#18 deactivated-5f89ab8e63049
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Isn't it the developers who choose whether or not there are dedicated servers?
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#19 cosmicmouse
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[QUOTE="jimm895"]The number one reason I like the PS3 and the Sony products is they don't milk the consumer on something everyone else does for free.Aljosa23

I totally agree. Paying $40 for a demo is defiantely not milking. :roll:

Prologue is not a demo check for PROLOGUE in the dictionary. All demos are for free including GTA demo which came out on holidays. yes thats rigth DEMO not PROLOGUE, isnt that hard to get.

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#20 jg4xchamp
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I would like dedicated servers for Gears. I dont mind COD 4 or Halothey run great. but gears lags up so much and host advantage is just too much.
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#21 Heil68
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Only for a few games
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#22 heretrix
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The number one reason I like the PS3 and the Sony products is they don't milk the consumer on something everyone else does for free.jimm895
Like including rumble in their controllers?
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#23 heretrix
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="jimm895"]The number one reason I like the PS3 and the Sony products is they don't milk the consumer on something everyone else does for free.Albanian_Killa

I totally agree. Paying $40 for a demo is defiantely not milking. :roll:

Learn something before talking. GT has always had prologues. They've sold them before. This is something new to System Wars I guess. This isn't a demo either, it's a prologue. You get a ton of cars+features+online+tracks. That's no demo. It's for hardcore GT fans. Noone forces you to pay for it like they do for GOLD.

And yes, I love PSN. Dedicated servers are amazing. In CoD4, they'll patch it though and add host migration so the next best connection becomes host. I'm 100% sure this is for the PS3 but I don't know about the 360.

It's a demo. The same content can be found in the full version of the game.
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#24 TheDarkDisciple
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="jimm895"]The number one reason I like the PS3 and the Sony products is they don't milk the consumer on something everyone else does for free.cosmicmouse

I totally agree. Paying $40 for a demo is defiantely not milking. :roll:

Prologue is not a demo check for PROLOGUE in the dictionary. All demos are for free including GTA demo which came out on holidays. yes thats rigth DEMO not PROLOGUE, isnt that hard to get.

i don't think sales would be very good if it was called "Gran Turismo 5: DEMO"

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#25 ReverseCycology
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Half if not all of the PS2 games with online play has gone offline already. So you always gotta worry about the PSN walking that same route and PS3 games with online play has a good chance to go offline sooner once the traffic dies down while 360 games with online play will continue forever.

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#26 APOLLOCJD
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IS IGNORANCE BLISS TO YOU?!

PSN does NOT provide dedicated servers, **********game developers do**********.

LIVE has more peer to peer servers, but it still has dedicated servers of its own.

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Half if not all of the PS2 games with online play has gone offline already. So you always gotta worry about the PSN walking that same route and PS3 games with online play has a good chance to go offline sooner once the traffic dies down while 360 games with online play will continue forever.

ReverseCycology

They have taken games offline for Xbox as well. That proves nothing. Secondly at least PS2 owners can go back an play those games if they want without paying for it. 6 or 7 years from now when X360 isn't that hot anymore and you want to go back and play Gears, guess what you can't unless you pay MS their fee to do so.

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the game always got timed out and disconnected when i played the ps3 version, the only time iv ever seen lag on xbl is when i played a social on halo 3
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#29 ermacness
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="jimm895"]The number one reason I like the PS3 and the Sony products is they don't milk the consumer on something everyone else does for free.ejstrup

I totally agree. Paying $40 for a demo is defiantely not milking. :roll:

it beats paying for profile pictures though

^^^this guy just served up some O-W-N-A-G-E in his post. A job well done buddy
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[QUOTE="ejstrup"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="jimm895"]The number one reason I like the PS3 and the Sony products is they don't milk the consumer on something everyone else does for free.ermacness

I totally agree. Paying $40 for a demo is defiantely not milking. :roll:

it beats paying for profile pictures though

^^^this guy just served up some O-W-N-A-G-E in his post. A job well done buddy

How? They are both bad..
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[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="ejstrup"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="jimm895"]The number one reason I like the PS3 and the Sony products is they don't milk the consumer on something everyone else does for free.heretrix

I totally agree. Paying $40 for a demo is defiantely not milking. :roll:

it beats paying for profile pictures though

^^^this guy just served up some O-W-N-A-G-E in his post. A job well done buddy

How? They are both bad..

true, but having to pay for themes and gamer pics is SAD, especially since the competition not only allows you to download new themes for free, but also have more variety and better looking themes. That alone deserved to be deemed as OWNAGE by itself
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#32 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="ejstrup"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="jimm895"]The number one reason I like the PS3 and the Sony products is they don't milk the consumer on something everyone else does for free.ermacness

I totally agree. Paying $40 for a demo is defiantely not milking. :roll:

it beats paying for profile pictures though

^^^this guy just served up some O-W-N-A-G-E in his post. A job well done buddy

How? They are both bad..

true, but having to pay for themes and gamer pics is SAD, especially since the competition not only allows you to download new themes for free, but also have more variety and better looking themes. That alone deserved to be deemed as OWNAGE by itself

You can make your own theme for the 360 Dashboard as well.....You don't have to pay for anything. There are also free themes available....:|

Last time I checked there are no 40 dollar demos on XBL.

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#33 thegame1980
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how can you hate a less defective/more powerful system? GARRYTH

Same reasons I think it's only ok.

PS3 is NOT the better system. Simple fact the XMB is horrible, PSN is a joke and so is it's store. The exclusive games are either average to below average, Blu-Ray is nothing more then a financial trustfund for Sony and the sheer STUPIDITY of the company over the past two years. More powerful and less defective or not I'll stick with the 360 as my main console because in my opinion and hands on expierences trumps the PS3 in almost every category that matters for a home videogame console. I've had mine since Christmas and I think I turned it on MAYBE 5 times since then and two times was because two of my friends wanted to "see it". The others were 20 minute game sessions. I'd rather play CoD4 online for 360 with my friendsover ANY PS3 exclusive game

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[QUOTE="OGTiago"]no it doesn't, not on every game. I could also say 360 has dedicated servers. It's up to game dev's, nothing to do with PSN or XBLghoulsandghost
but we all know they dont, unless its a MMO. but psn all games are dedicated if they have MP. :)

No it doesn't. PSN only does it for games that are...popular like Resistance for example. Everything else is terrible. Do you think Sony has a dedicated server for Team Fortress (only 80,000 sold), UT3 (140,000). I can barley find people to play on these games including Rainbow Six. I not sure about Warhawk though. It hasnt sold well, but has a good online community.

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#35 mistervengeance
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cod4 on ps3 has no dedicated servers.

the difference is less people online which allows the p2p to run more effeciently than it would with the load that xbox lvie has

and better p2p code.. plainly

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[QUOTE="jimm895"]The number one reason I like the PS3 and the Sony products is they don't milk the consumer on something everyone else does for free.Aljosa23

I totally agree. Paying $40 for a demo is defiantely not milking. :roll:

dude, demos are free on the psn
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#37 JiveT
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Wait what 360 games have been taken offline?

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#38 gamenux
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Dedicated Servers. I hate the fact that almost every xbox live game is peer to peer. This ruins alot of games expeirence. For example, Gears of War has a huge host advantage when ping is involved. Also, it sucks in call of duty 4 when the host is getting his arse handed to him and he decides to quit and the whole game ends. Why does xbox live not support dedicated servers?Kidtendo
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[QUOTE="GARRYTH"]how can you hate a less defective/more powerful system? thegame1980

Same reasons I think it's only ok.

PS3 is NOT the better system. Simple fact the XMB is horrible, PSN is a joke and so is it's store. The exclusive games are either average to below average, Blu-Ray is nothing more then a financial trustfund for Sony and the sheer STUPIDITY of the company over the past two years. More powerful and less defective or not I'll stick with the 360 as my main console because in my opinion and hands on expierences trumps the PS3 in almost every category that matters for a home videogame console. I've had mine since Christmas and I think I turned it on MAYBE 5 times since then and two times was because two of my friends wanted to "see it". The others were 20 minute game sessions. I'd rather play CoD4 online for 360 with my friendsover ANY PS3 exclusive game

Can you play online games for free on your xbox 360. Didnt think so.