I have both, GT5>Forza 4

Incoming 10+ page thread...

But, on topic, I disagree.

It's like comparing a sock to a glove, I live in Arkansas, so everyone agrees that socks are better, but the odd folk likes gloves better. Blabadon

Good tale, chap.

Point?

Forza is a better game. That is a fact, it has better features and better online.

GT5 is considered more hardcore though. Doesn't make it better, the game has been ignorant on pretty much all the advances in gaming besides graphics. The online functionality is bare bones compared to Forza

Forza is a better game. That is a fact, it has better features and better online.

GT5 is considered more hardcore though. Doesn't make it better, the game has been ignorant on pretty much all the advances in gaming besides graphics. The online functionality is bare bones compared to Forza

OB-47

I agree that everything about GT5 feels like bare bones, no sense of campaign flow, online is basic, etc.

But the driving is simply better in GT5. Also tracks and sounds are more accurately reproduced. That's what makes GT5 a better racing simulator, even if the ouside package is more dated.

The actual racing is alot more fun, in forzas online 95% of the people use assisted braking, steering which takes the fun out of it. They automatically have a boost while im actually trying with advanced settings. Driving through weather and day night adds atmosphere in gt5. In forza the turns completely suck, you almost have to come to a complete stop to turn which is unrealistic. Gt5 has an amazing soundtrack adding to the experience. Gt5 has a better sense of speed, when going 200 mph in fprza it looks like your going 80 lol. As an owner of both GT5 wins. Edit: one more thing, GT5 is more challenging, i can finish forza 4 in a day and finish 1st place in every race because the dumb AI crashes into a wall on the final turn every race. GT 5 takes more time and skill to finish and buying cars takes more effort.Firstinstimct

I have both too, and you're right about the racing its more fun and more accurate but Forza 4 is more complete and more fun overall IMO. If you are a racing fan, AND own both consoles you owe it to yourself to own both games.

[QUOTE="OB-47"]

Forza is a better game. That is a fact, it has better features and better online.

GT5 is considered more hardcore though. Doesn't make it better, the game has been ignorant on pretty much all the advances in gaming besides graphics. The online functionality is bare bones compared to Forza

SkaRy_RuLeZ

I agree that everything about GT5 feels like bare bones, no sense of campaign flow, online is basic, etc.

But the driving is simply better in GT5. Also tracks and sounds are more accurately reproduced. That's what makes GT5 a better racing simulator, even if the ouside package is more dated.

Although I havent played Forza 4, I would assume that on a strictly face off on a track, GT5 would win.

[QUOTE="OB-47"]

Forza is a better game. That is a fact, it has better features and better online.

GT5 is considered more hardcore though. Doesn't make it better, the game has been ignorant on pretty much all the advances in gaming besides graphics. The online functionality is bare bones compared to Forza

SkaRy_RuLeZ

I agree that everything about GT5 feels like bare bones, no sense of campaign flow, online is basic, etc.

But the driving is simply better in GT5. Also tracks and sounds are more accurately reproduced. That's what makes GT5 a better racing simulator, even if the ouside package is more dated.

Thats the thing. If you like more hardcore, go get GT5 (had a massive price drop, I might pick it up actually) but if you just want the better game Forza 4 is the way to go

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[QUOTE="OB-47"]

Forza is a better game. That is a fact, it has better features and better online.

GT5 is considered more hardcore though. Doesn't make it better, the game has been ignorant on pretty much all the advances in gaming besides graphics. The online functionality is bare bones compared to Forza

Firstinstimct

I agree that everything about GT5 feels like bare bones, no sense of campaign flow, online is basic, etc.

But the driving is simply better in GT5. Also tracks and sounds are more accurately reproduced. That's what makes GT5 a better racing simulator, even if the ouside package is more dated.

[QUOTE="Firstinstimct"]The actual racing is alot more fun, in forzas online 95% of the people use assisted braking, steering which takes the fun out of it. They automatically have a boost while im actually trying with advanced settings. Driving through weather and day night adds atmosphere in gt5. In forza the turns completely suck, you almost have to come to a complete stop to turn which is unrealistic. Gt5 has an amazing soundtrack adding to the experience. Gt5 has a better sense of speed, when going 200 mph in fprza it looks like your going 80 lol. As an owner of both GT5 wins. Edit: one more thing, GT5 is more challenging, i can finish forza 4 in a day and finish 1st place in every race because the dumb AI crashes into a wall on the final turn every race. GT 5 takes more time and skill to finish and buying cars takes more effort.SRTtoZ

I have both too, and you're right about the racing its more fun and more accurate but Forza 4 is more complete and more fun overall IMO. If you are a racing fan, AND own both consoles you owe it to yourself to own both games.

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[QUOTE="Firstinstimct"]The actual racing is alot more fun, in forzas online 95% of the people use assisted braking, steering which takes the fun out of it. They automatically have a boost while im actually trying with advanced settings. Driving through weather and day night adds atmosphere in gt5. In forza the turns completely suck, you almost have to come to a complete stop to turn which is unrealistic. Gt5 has an amazing soundtrack adding to the experience. Gt5 has a better sense of speed, when going 200 mph in fprza it looks like your going 80 lol. As an owner of both GT5 wins. Edit: one more thing, GT5 is more challenging, i can finish forza 4 in a day and finish 1st place in every race because the dumb AI crashes into a wall on the final turn every race. GT 5 takes more time and skill to finish and buying cars takes more effort.Firstinstimct

I have both too, and you're right about the racing its more fun and more accurate but Forza 4 is more complete and more fun overall IMO. If you are a racing fan, AND own both consoles you owe it to yourself to own both games.

That made you mad? Cmon bro. I'm not going back and forth in ANOTHER Forza vs GT thread just look at my post history if you want my opinions on both games. Good luck.

ModNation Racers > both.

Well the both flopped and both are AA, so it's all up to ones opinions. Heil68

I own both.. and Forza4 > GT4

GT5 and Forza3 was a much closer call imo, but overall Forza4 is the best racing game ever for me (passing my old #1 which was GT2 and 2nd which was Forza3)

It's unrealistic that you cant take a tight turn at 100 mph?

To those saying forza flopped it only didnt sell well because people like me who put 128 hours into forza 2 and 100 into forza 3 didnt want to put all that time into alonther game that only had a few new tracks, which is understandable since the games only use real world tracks. Forza 4 does everything better and is the better game though.

Here we go...

Forza is considered a better game while GT5 a better simulation/racer.

To those saying forza flopped it only didnt sell well because people like me who put 128 hours into forza 2 and 100 into forza 3 didnt want to put all that time into alonther game that only had a few new tracks, which is understandable since the games only use real world tracks. Forza 4 does everything better and is the better game though.

19elderscroll86

Here we go...

Forza is considered a better game while GT5 a better simulation/racer.

Chutebox

I'd argue that Forza 4 is bette in each respect but that's just me, I guess.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Here we go...

Forza is considered a better game while GT5 a better simulation/racer.

The_Game21x

I'd argue that Forza 4 is bette in each respect but that's just me, I guess.

Both are great games, only Forza 4 is more arcadey than GT5.

Both are great games, only Forza 4 is more arcadey than GT5.

XVision84

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

Both are great games, only Forza 4 is more arcadey than GT5.

soulitane

I played both, and I found that the overall style and turns in general are much easier in Forza 4 than GT5 (which gives the impression that it's more realistic IMO). Plus the constant creaking of the tires when you just make one tiny turn in GT5 :x

And thanks ;) changing the font and making it darker fixed everything :P

[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="XVision84"]

Both are great games, only Forza 4 is more arcadey than GT5.

XVision84

I played both, and I found that the overall style and turns in general are much easier in Forza 4 than GT5 (which gives the impression that it's more realistic IMO). Plus the constant creaking of the tires when you just make one tiny turn in GT5 :x

And thanks ;) changing the font and making it darker fixed everything :P

And then the new Need For Speed comes out and no one cares about boring simulators anymore.

And then the new Need For Speed comes out and no one cares about boring simulators anymore.

Skreltch

I'd rather not play a game where my screen starts getting extremely blurry and my character makes bed noises when the car is going 150mph on a race track that's not even that big :P

It's like comparing a sock to a glove, I live in Arkansas, so everyone agrees that socks are better, but the odd folk likes gloves better. Blabadon

And then the new Need For Speed comes out and no one cares about boring simulators anymore.

Skreltch

You meant the one with completely unnecessary quick-time events...in a racing game!?

GT5's photo mode is superior and it has night racing. Other than that, Forza 4 is better in every way.

Both are great games, only Forza 4 is more arcadey than GT5.

XVision84

put the simulation steering on :P

Forza 4 has virus mode, i spent so many hours in that on mode on Forza 3.

Nuff said

GT5 has a superior physics engine and is more for the hardcore car lover. Forza has a superior online setup and is the more accessible and arcadey game.Deniable_Ops

as i will say take off the standard steering and put on the simulation steering system in Forza along with a few of the TCS stuff and that and its just as realistic as GT5.

well Forza 4 flopped pretty hard, GT5 did too but after GT5 flopped ppl were rejoiced and thought F4 would be king but it ended up flopping too so I would say GT5 is still kingKevinButlerVP

GT5 flopped harder.

Strangely outside SW, Forza has never been as big a franchise ever despite being the better one this gen.Still strangely it outscored GT5 aswell mind you cow's will try anything to make it look like GT5 wasnt an unfinished mess.

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]well Forza 4 flopped pretty hard, GT5 did too but after GT5 flopped ppl were rejoiced and thought F4 would be king but it ended up flopping too so I would say GT5 is still kingrazgriz_101

GT5 flopped harder.

Strangely outside SW, Forza has never been as big a franchise ever despite being the better one this gen.Still strangely it outscored GT5 aswell mind you cow's will try anything to make it look like GT5 wasnt an unfinished mess.

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]well Forza 4 flopped pretty hard, GT5 did too but after GT5 flopped ppl were rejoiced and thought F4 would be king but it ended up flopping too so I would say GT5 is still kingKevinButlerVP

GT5 flopped harder.

Strangely outside SW, Forza has never been as big a franchise ever despite being the better one this gen.Still strangely it outscored GT5 aswell mind you cow's will try anything to make it look like GT5 wasnt an unfinished mess.

true but 2 Forza games are still technically the kings if we go on the flop system and averaging Forza's had 3 games this gen and so has GT and all have flopped which is not a good sign.

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

GT5 flopped harder.

Strangely outside SW, Forza has never been as big a franchise ever despite being the better one this gen.Still strangely it outscored GT5 aswell mind you cow's will try anything to make it look like GT5 wasnt an unfinished mess.

razgriz_101

true but 2 Forza games are still technically the kings if we go on the flop system and averaging Forza's had 3 games this gen and so has GT and all have flopped which is not a good sign.

[QUOTE="Deniable_Ops"]GT5 has a superior physics engine and is more for the hardcore car lover. Forza has a superior online setup and is the more accessible and arcadey game.razgriz_101

as i will say take off the standard steering and put on the simulation steering system in Forza along with a few of the TCS stuff and that and its just as realistic as GT5.

Not true. I play both games with similiar settings and GT5 still has more realistic physics. Not sure if you know but even with all the assists off, people on youtube have PROVEN forza4 still uses some hidden assist to keep you on the track. The ONLY thing I keep on in both games is ABS at 5, both games I use a wheel and both games I use manual transmittion (sometimes with clutch in F4, depends). GT5 is def the "harder" game with all the assists off...you almost have to drive perfect to get around the track with the average times that are usual for those courses. I mean cmon I hang around the official F4 forums and I see people on a regular basis (new to the series and with a controller) beating PRO driver track times...how realistic can that be?? Dont get me wrong, the game is PHENOMOENAL and I love it and willl last me until F5 just like F3 lasted me until F4. Just sayin' there is a difference between the two.

Nope.

The only thing I can agree with you upon is what you said about online races. It's annoying that T10 still hasn't set up a full simulation game type.