I hope Killzone doesn't flop

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#51 II_Seraphim_II
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Im thinking this game is going to get a solid 9.0
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#52 Floppy_Jim
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Whether it flops or not, SW shall be interesting because someone is guaranteed to be proven wrong. I'd prefer it if it didn't flop, to see the reactions.
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#53 kweeni
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i hope it doesn't flop, i really want this game :( no not just for graphics
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#54 MasterY_28
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i hope it doesn't flop, i really want this game :( no not just for graphicskweeni
Don't let reviews cloud your jugement. SOCOM is really a great game and it got 6.5.
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#55 blehblahblep
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i cant believe quake 2 got rated a 9.0 and halo a 9.7 lol and halo 2 9.4 or 9.5 i think.

well pc higher standards also different reviewers.

halo better than quake 2? LOL

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#56 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="subrosian"]I don't understand why people are hyping Killzone 2. The success or failure of KZ2 will not drastically alter the SW.subrosian

If you think that it's fate won't drastically alter SW...get ready for a rude wake up call come late February.

Why? MGS4 won GOTY, and all we got were a bunch of people whining on a forum. The PS3's sales were down 19% year-over-year in November according to NPD, while the 360 and Wii were both up (with the Wii setting the November sales record ). An FPS releasing outside of the strong holiday sales period is unlikely to have significant impact one way or another on the "fate" of the console.

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Some people seem to be betting on KZ2 being "the PS3's Halo", but frankly that's quite a leap-of-faith to make. There have been countless solid titles that haven't become system-selling blockbusters, that "spark" of mega-popularity is rare.

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So, I can't see KZ2 really altering the course of the SW significantly. If it fails to meet expectations, oh well. If it succeeds, great, the PS3 has another solid game to add to its library. Either way, sure, we'll see massive whining on the forums, but that's only because people are investing a ridiculous amount of time and energy on the success of something they have absolutely no control over.

Lol, I see...using "SW" was misleading. Initially, I thought you were referring solely to System Wars: the board. It will have a significant impact here period.

In the market battle (the one that actually matters), KZ2 can be a tide changer in ways. It won't single-handedly "change the SW" though. Not at all.

KZ2 has the definite appeal and reported quality to become a system-seller. But if the system at hand is too pricey, then the barrier of entry can cripple that feat fromt the start. The Gran Turismo and Halo franchises have more in common right now than KZ2 and Halo (speaking sales).

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#57 TREAL_Since
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Im thinking this game is going to get a solid 9.0II_Seraphim_II
Same here.
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#58 blehblahblep
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halo series has evolved **** either.

bungie sucks sucks at mapping....they cant design good multiplayer maps.

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#59 robobie
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I hope the opposite happens.
Killzone 2 is more damaging to gaming then wii fit.


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#60 robobie
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[QUOTE="Rexer-i4"][QUOTE="coakroach"]8.0Toriko42
8.5 - 9.5 this game will not flop ;)

8.5 will be a flop if it happens

Exactly. It has been so hyped that people will call it a flop unless it gets 9.0 upwards

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#61 blehblahblep
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unreal tournament 2003 actually did evolve the gameplay of unreal tournament 1999.

you could jump 2 times/2 dodges double dodge jump in a single bound vs 1 in ut1999 plus they added walljumps.

ut3 went back to ut1999's gameplay...the reason why it flopped really didnt do anything new and the multiplayer maps arent the best epicgames ever made.

i was expecting ut3 maps to have some physics based objects atleast out of the box there is none.

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#62 DonMarkito
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The game will get like 8.2 - 8.7 on IGN since it's a standar shooter game with no co-up feature =/
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#63 kweeni
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[QUOTE="kweeni"]i hope it doesn't flop, i really want this game :( no not just for graphicsMasterY_28
Don't let reviews cloud your jugement. SOCOM is really a great game and it got 6.5.

yh i know alot of people say its underrated, i myself when i watch gameplay i also think its kinda underrated. bet only reason it got such a low score is because of the lag and stuff like that when it launched.
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#64 blehblahblep
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unreal championship 1# gameplay actually owned ut2k4.

each character had their own ability

the slow ass juggernaut dudes could take alot of hits

the gen mo kai aliens could run fast

the robots could jump high as crap/leap far.

i miss that ut2k4 gameplay everyone ran same speed/jumped same height.

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#65 DOF_power
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unreal tournament 2003 actually did evolve the gameplay of unreal tournament 1999.

you could jump 2 times/2 dodges double dodge jump in a single bound vs 1 in ut1999 plus they added walljumps.

ut3 went back to ut1999's gameplay...the reason why it flopped really didnt do anything new and the multiplayer maps arent the best epicgames ever made.

i was expecting ut3 maps to have some physics based objects atleast out of the box there is none.

blehblahblep

UT3 is a couple of steps backward compared to both UT and UT2004

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#66 DOF_power
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^ The game that beat Halo 3 was COD4:MW.

So now COD4:MW is the target.

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#67 blehblahblep
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[QUOTE="blehblahblep"]

unreal tournament 2003 actually did evolve the gameplay of unreal tournament 1999.

you could jump 2 times/2 dodges double dodge jump in a single bound vs 1 in ut1999 plus they added walljumps.

ut3 went back to ut1999's gameplay...the reason why it flopped really didnt do anything new and the multiplayer maps arent the best epicgames ever made.

i was expecting ut3 maps to have some physics based objects atleast out of the box there is none.

DOF_power

UT3 is a couple of steps backward compared to both UT and UT2004

nah

ut2k4 is a few steps back also

ut2k4 has the game doesnt feel right on pc....unreal championship had that good unreal feel though.

the rocket launcher couldnt shoot grenades like ut1999 in ut2k4.

the rockets shoots grenades in ut3.

you can fake dead in ut3/ut1999 you cant in ut2k4.

ut3 has hoverboards ut2k4 doesnt

the vehicles physics is greatly improved sucked in ut2k4.

vehicles have turbos now

actually has a physics engine now.

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#68 Generalmojo
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[QUOTE="coakroach"]8.0Rexer-i4
8.5 - 9.5 this game will not flop ;)

Agreed,

even if this game gets a 8.0 ill still buy it :D

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#69 DOF_power
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[QUOTE="DOF_power"][QUOTE="blehblahblep"]

unreal tournament 2003 actually did evolve the gameplay of unreal tournament 1999.

you could jump 2 times/2 dodges double dodge jump in a single bound vs 1 in ut1999 plus they added walljumps.

ut3 went back to ut1999's gameplay...the reason why it flopped really didnt do anything new and the multiplayer maps arent the best epicgames ever made.

i was expecting ut3 maps to have some physics based objects atleast out of the box there is none.

blehblahblep

UT3 is a couple of steps backward compared to both UT and UT2004

nah

ut2k4 is a few steps back also

ut2k4 has the game doesnt feel right on pc....unreal championship had that good unreal feel though.

the rocket launcher couldnt shoot grenades like ut1999 in ut2k4.

the rockets shoots grenades in ut3.

you can fake dead in ut3/ut1999 you cant in ut2k4.

ut3 has hoverboards ut2k4 doesnt

the vehicles physics is greatly improved sucked in ut2k4.

vehicles have turbos now

actually has a physics engine now.

True, but without more maps, the assault mode (especially the assault mode), boming run, domination or double domination or LMS I'm not satisfied.

It had potential but it didn't fullfil it, unless it's a demo and not the full game.

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#70 blehblahblep
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[QUOTE="blehblahblep"][QUOTE="DOF_power"]

UT3 is a couple of steps backward compared to both UT and UT2004

DOF_power

nah

ut2k4 is a few steps back also

ut2k4 has the game doesnt feel right on pc....unreal championship had that good unreal feel though.

the rocket launcher couldnt shoot grenades like ut1999 in ut2k4.

the rockets shoots grenades in ut3.

you can fake dead in ut3/ut1999 you cant in ut2k4.

ut3 has hoverboards ut2k4 doesnt

the vehicles physics is greatly improved sucked in ut2k4.

vehicles have turbos now

actually has a physics engine now.

True, but without more maps, the assault mode (especially the assault mode), boming run, domination or double domination or LMS I'm not satisfied.

It had potential but it didn't fullfil it, unless it's a demo and not the full game.

well a ut3 expansion pack is being released lol.

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#71 blehblahblep
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honestly who gives a crap what it scores.

halo 3 scored 9.5 and i think the multiplayer maps suck bigtime my friend let me check em out to see how good designed they were.

halo's gunplay has always sucked honestly.

the vehicles is what making the game fun.

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#72 DOF_power
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^ It should have had those things in the first place. That's what made UT special in the first place, it wasn't a missing features/unfinished game like Quake III Arena.

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#73 DOF_power
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honestly who gives a crap what it scores.

halo 3 scored 9.5 and i think the multiplayer maps suck bigtime my friend let me check em out to see how good designed they were.

halo's gunplay has always sucked honestly.

the vehicles is what making the game fun.

blehblahblep

Agreed.

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#74 donalbane
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Me too... mainly because I have it preordered. You know, the first one wasn't so great, but there were aspects I really enjoyed. I can't wait to see the 1st person cover system... that's the make or break issue to me.
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#75 subrosian
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Lol, I see...using "SW" was misleading. Initially, I thought you were referring solely to System Wars: the board. It will have a significant impact here period.

In the market battle (the one that actually matters), KZ2 can be a tide changer in ways. It won't single-handedly "change the SW" though. Not at all.

KZ2 has the definite appeal and reported quality to become a system-seller. But if the system at hand is too pricey, then the barrier of entry can cripple that feat fromt the start. The Gran Turismo and Halo franchises have more in common right now than KZ2 and Halo (speaking sales).

TREAL_Since

The price of the PS3 is a big problem. In the US, unemployment is about to hit 7%, and people are feeling the burn of tough times. While things will be turning around in the second half of 2009, it's still not a good time for a $400 luxury item. Videogames have to be affordable - if a teenager can't buy the system easily with an after school job, or a parent can't work an extra day at work to buy your console, then it's just too damn expensive.

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#76 swazidoughman
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I hope it flops.

It will save me from spending $60.

But seriously I really dont care how well it does.

If it sucks then it sucks, it's just a game.

If its a fantastic game, that's nice because it will give me something to do.

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#77 n00bkid
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I have a feeling if this game scores lower then 9.5....lems will laugh at us and consider it a flop :(
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#78 Darth_Sibbs
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I think Sony need to get this right.

That being said it is not quite as critical after last year with R2, LBP and MGS4, plus the equal multiplats, Dead Space and GTAIV.

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#79 GodofBigMacs
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I hope it flops.

It will save me from spending $60.

But seriously I really dont care how well it does.

If it sucks then it sucks, it's just a game.

If its a fantastic game, that's nice because it will give me something to do.

swazidoughman

Hoping it sucks so that you won't pay for a great game? Dude, if you wanted to pirate, you shouldn't have bought the PS3. Just saying. Don't do it at all, though.

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#80 ermacness
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I hope the opposite happens.
Killzone 2 is more damaging to gaming then wii fit.


MerisYaki
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#81 ps3_owns_360Wii
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i hope not either, or the sigs are worthless...
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#82 GodofBigMacs
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i hope not either, or the sigs are worthless...ps3_owns_360Wii
Speaking of which, how old is your sig footage? Because the fact that he is clearly holding the pistol while killing himself, and then magically having it transform into an assault rifle in his death scene startles me.
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#83 ps3_owns_360Wii
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[QUOTE="ps3_owns_360Wii"]i hope not either, or the sigs are worthless...GodofBigMacs
Speaking of which, how old is your sig footage? Because the fact that he is clearly holding the pistol while killing himself, and then magically having it transform into an assault rifle in his death scene startles me.

not sure, found it on the neogaf website and though it was pretty funny imo