I know it's been said but PS3's Dualshock 3 is the best controller period...

This thing feels so solid and even though the full charge lasts about 2 hours less then the regular Sixaxis depending on how much rumble is used, it still last's a heck of alot longer then the 360 controller batteries or full charge lasts....and it feels so much more comfortable ergonomically in your hands then the 360 controller ever did.

I warned you 360 fanboys, it might take Sony a little longer but by the time the complete package of the PS3 is done Xbox boys will be drooling with envy, between our more reliable and powerful hardware to our now superior controller with rumble and motion sensor controls in one, not to mention the Home online community soon to launch later this year and such hit titles like Haze, Metal Gear, Little Big Planet and Gran Turismo 5....well

The choice is clear so trade up your future Red Rings of Death consoles and join the winning team, you'll never regret it.

PS3nut

a). "lasts a heck of a lot longer than the 360 controller batteries."

You literally just made that up having had no prior experience with a 360 controller at all. Is it not a fact that the PS3's battery life is the worst of the three consoles? :? I mean it's not like it even matters - i know i could care less - but when you just flat-out make stuff up like that you're begging for people to intervene.

b). "such hit titles like Haze...."

:lol:

[QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"][lol, calm down.

you calm?

good boy.

ALWAYS, state...IMO, expecially with the words you use, it comes across as some sort of FACT, which it ISN'T. The controller has won awards and been stated to be a great controller....live with it.

the bold part you highlighted, was ME coming across like you, see how silly it sounds? lol

everyone has there opinions, while the controller isn't perfect to you, it IS to others. Atleast it isn't a rip off of any other controller out there, unlike the 360's. (cough* dreamcast *cough)

Tragic_Kingdom7

Don't play dumb. You know what I said was an opinion. And I will continue to express it without saying IMO. Everybody else but you is smart enough to know that everybody's expressing opinions here.

Your highlighted portion wasn't dumb at all. It was you expressing an opinion. What is dumb is expecting people to tag IMO to every post. Nobody should have to do that. Yoy really need to use your brain and assume that what is being stated is an opinion. You're just trying to nitpick at the style of my posts and are splitting semantic hairs.

And the 360 controller is nothing like the Dreamcast one. Don't be a moron.

Well, never mind, go ahead and be a moron. Evolution is a hard thing for people like you to deal with hence your love for the Dualshock.

:lol:

Joke right?

Calling ppl a moron and brainless, tells me what you are.....but i won't bother. Have a good day and learn to control your self. people don't care how tough you can be on the internet, lol.

Good day, sir.

BTW...

Lets not forget the Trigger buttons the dreamcast had...its a spitting image with a design tweak and added thumb stick..lol

It would be nice if my fingers didn't keep slipping off of them as well...It's really a mood killer when I suddenly stop accellerating in GT5: P or shooting in Resistance.The_Game21x

I agree. They made driving in GTAIV a pain in ass. I had to switch to the "Classic" layout where the gas is mapped to the X.

This thing feels so solid and even though the full charge lasts about 2 hours less then the regular Sixaxis depending on how much rumble is used, it still last's a heck of alot longer then the 360 controller batteries or full charge lasts....and it feels so much more comfortable ergonomically in your hands then the 360 controller ever did.

I warned you 360 fanboys, it might take Sony a little longer but by the time the complete package of the PS3 is done Xbox boys will be drooling with envy, between our more reliable and powerful hardware to our now superior controller with rumble and motion sensor controls in one, not to mention the Home online community soon to launch later this year and such hit titles like Haze, Metal Gear, Little Big Planet and Gran Turismo 5....well

The choice is clear so trade up your future Red Rings of Death consoles and join the winning team, you'll never regret it.

PS3nut

your username and avatar call into question your objectivity. fanboy.

[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

Dude, I can say whatever the hell I want in whatever way I want to say it. Of course it's an opinion! I'm sick of the moronic notion that I have to tag IMO to every word I say. Use your brain.

Also, its funny that you tell me to stop stating things as fact and then you go onto say all that stuff in the bolded segment without qualifying it in any fashion. Complete contradiction.

I personally think Sony needs to evolve as far as their controller. Things will began to shows flaws over time. This notion that the Dualshock will stay perfect is dumb IMO. There's always room for improvement.

Forensic-Klown

lol, calm down.

you calm?

good boy.

ALWAYS, state...IMO, expecially with the words you use, it comes across as some sort of FACT, which it ISN'T. The controller has won awards and been stated to be a great controller....live with it.

the bold part you highlighted, was ME coming across like you, see how silly it sounds? lol

everyone has there opinions, while the controller isn't perfect to you, it IS to others. Atleast it isn't a rip off of any other controller out there, unlike the 360's. (cough* dreamcast *cough)

The PS3's controller isn't a rip of any other is it? Really?

Well tell me, does this look familiar?

Looks an awful lot like this...

Doesn't it?

Well, just in case you don't believe me, take a look at this.

PS3's controller isn't a rip my ass.

:lol:

Joke right?

Calling ppl a moron and brainless, tells me what you are.....but i won't bother. Have a good day and learn to control your self. people don't care how tough you can be on the internet, lol.

Good day, sir.

BTW...

Lets not forget the Trigger buttons the dreamcast had...its a spitting image with a design tweak and added thumb stick..lol

Forensic-Klown

Sorry, where are you going with this? I preferred the Dreamcast controller to the PS2 controller, and i prefer the 360 controller to the PS3 one.

Forensic Clown, it was obvious that you had nothing to add to the conversation when you nitpicked on the style elements of my post.

I think the Dualshock has flaws, and I think Sony should have redesigned their controller. What is so hard to grasp about that? Why do you have to make such a big thing of that? Why do you nitpick my post when several other people are stating opinions without tagging IMO to it?

And how are you going to tell me about being a tough guy when you tell me how to post? That's idiotic in the extreme.

And I still don't think the 360 controller is a rip off of the Dreamcast controller. There are similarities, but there are differences as well, not to mention the shape is completely different.

Also, what's wrong with taking the best parts of the Dreamcast controller? The triggers were a great thing to adopt and so was the analog placement.

There's a saying that goes: a wise man talks because he has something to say, a fool talks because he has to say something.

You fall into the latter category.

[QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"][QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

Dude, I can say whatever the hell I want in whatever way I want to say it. Of course it's an opinion! I'm sick of the moronic notion that I have to tag IMO to every word I say. Use your brain.

Also, its funny that you tell me to stop stating things as fact and then you go onto say all that stuff in the bolded segment without qualifying it in any fashion. Complete contradiction.

I personally think Sony needs to evolve as far as their controller. Things will began to shows flaws over time. This notion that the Dualshock will stay perfect is dumb IMO. There's always room for improvement.

The_Game21x

lol, calm down.

you calm?

good boy.

ALWAYS, state...IMO, expecially with the words you use, it comes across as some sort of FACT, which it ISN'T. The controller has won awards and been stated to be a great controller....live with it.

the bold part you highlighted, was ME coming across like you, see how silly it sounds? lol

everyone has there opinions, while the controller isn't perfect to you, it IS to others. Atleast it isn't a rip off of any other controller out there, unlike the 360's. (cough* dreamcast *cough)

The PS3's controller isn't a rip of any other is it? Really?

Well tell me, does this look familiar?

Looks an awful lot like this...

Doesn't it?

Well, just in case you don't believe me, take a look at this.

PS3's controller isn't a rip my ass.

Sorry, i still don't see a controller that looks anything like the PS one, the home button was also taken from the PSP which debuted in 2004, b4 the 360 LOL.

the 360 controller is almost identical to the dreamcast in button placement.

Forensic Clown, it was obvious that you had nothing to add to the conversation when you nitpicked on the style elements of my post.

I think the Dualshock has flaws, and I think Sony should have redesigned their controller. What is so hard to grasp about that? Why do you have to make such a big thing of that? Why do you nitpick my post when several other people are stating opinions without tagging IMO to it.

And how are you going to tell me about being a tough guy when you tell me how to post. That's idiotic in the extreme.

And I still don't think the 360 controller is a rip off of the Dreamcast controller. There are similarities, but there are differences as well, not to mention the shape is completely different.

Also, what's wrong with taking the best parts of the Dreamcast controller? The triggers were a great thing to adopt and so was the analog placement.

Tragic_Kingdom7

Haven't you got it yet? Its because he is nothing more than a mindless sony fanboy sony tells them that the dual shock is the best so they believe it.

Haven't you got it yet? Its because he is nothing more than a mindless sony fanboy sony tells them that the dual shock is the best so they believe it.mattacular

He's free to have that opinion. I only get mad when people split semantical hairs, play dumb and tell me how to post.

Tragic kindom.

your point?

your the one claiming your original statements as some facts, like i said, simply state IYO..and i won't come in after you. If i didn't others would have. SIMPLE RIGHT?

you also say the 360 doesn't rip of the dreamcast and looks different, but then state..so what if it used the look? LOL

WOW!

and you call me a moron?

riiiiiight!

its almost identical, minus the shape..which i clearly stated.

the button layouts and triggers etc, are all the same, basically.

next time plz be more carefull with your words, since you pretend your no fanboy, or ARE YOU?

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"][QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

Dude, I can say whatever the hell I want in whatever way I want to say it. Of course it's an opinion! I'm sick of the moronic notion that I have to tag IMO to every word I say. Use your brain.

Also, its funny that you tell me to stop stating things as fact and then you go onto say all that stuff in the bolded segment without qualifying it in any fashion. Complete contradiction.

I personally think Sony needs to evolve as far as their controller. Things will began to shows flaws over time. This notion that the Dualshock will stay perfect is dumb IMO. There's always room for improvement.

Forensic-Klown

lol, calm down.

you calm?

good boy.

ALWAYS, state...IMO, expecially with the words you use, it comes across as some sort of FACT, which it ISN'T. The controller has won awards and been stated to be a great controller....live with it.

the bold part you highlighted, was ME coming across like you, see how silly it sounds? lol

everyone has there opinions, while the controller isn't perfect to you, it IS to others. Atleast it isn't a rip off of any other controller out there, unlike the 360's. (cough* dreamcast *cough)

The PS3's controller isn't a rip of any other is it? Really?

Well tell me, does this look familiar?

Looks an awful lot like this...

Doesn't it?

Well, just in case you don't believe me, take a look at this.

PS3's controller isn't a rip my ass.

Sorry, i still don't see a controller that looks anything like the PS one, the home button was also taken from the PSP which debuted in 2004, b4 the 360 LOL.

the 360 controller is almost identical to the dreamcast in button placement.

youyr 1st post had so many errors. for one the MS sidewinder had triggers before the dreamcast. Secondly, the d pads are nothing alike and thirdly neither is the analog stick the 360 ones are concave whereas the dreamcast one was convex sorry but i reallly think you need to go back to school.

Matt, plz don't interrupt our argument...what you just stated, is basically self ownage to what YOU are. i'm no fanboy, read some of my posts.

lol, geez

[QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"][QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

Dude, I can say whatever the hell I want in whatever way I want to say it. Of course it's an opinion! I'm sick of the moronic notion that I have to tag IMO to every word I say. Use your brain.

Also, its funny that you tell me to stop stating things as fact and then you go onto say all that stuff in the bolded segment without qualifying it in any fashion. Complete contradiction.

I personally think Sony needs to evolve as far as their controller. Things will began to shows flaws over time. This notion that the Dualshock will stay perfect is dumb IMO. There's always room for improvement.

mattacular

lol, calm down.

you calm?

good boy.

ALWAYS, state...IMO, expecially with the words you use, it comes across as some sort of FACT, which it ISN'T. The controller has won awards and been stated to be a great controller....live with it.

the bold part you highlighted, was ME coming across like you, see how silly it sounds? lol

everyone has there opinions, while the controller isn't perfect to you, it IS to others. Atleast it isn't a rip off of any other controller out there, unlike the 360's. (cough* dreamcast *cough)

The PS3's controller isn't a rip of any other is it? Really?

Well tell me, does this look familiar?

Looks an awful lot like this...

Doesn't it?

Well, just in case you don't believe me, take a look at this.

PS3's controller isn't a rip my ass.

Sorry, i still don't see a controller that looks anything like the PS one, the home button was also taken from the PSP which debuted in 2004, b4 the 360 LOL.

the 360 controller is almost identical to the dreamcast in button placement.

youyr 1st post had so many errors. for one the MS sidewinder had triggers before the dreamcast. Secondly, the d pads are nothing alike and thirdly neither is the analog stick the 360 ones are concave whereas the dreamcast one was convex sorry but i reallly think you need to go back to school.

and you need to read, OBVIOUSLY the shape is different but the button layouts are almost identical, inlcuding the triggers..if you can't see that ..then you in denial.

MS just added its own design of the shape and an extra stick....SEE?

Matt, plz don't interrupt our argument...what you just stated, is basically self ownage to what YOU are. i'm no fanboy, read some of my posts.

lol, geez

Forensic-Klown

lol im a fanboy for pointing out your biased mistakes oh the irony.

[QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"]

Matt, plz don't interrupt our argument...what you just stated, is basically self ownage to what YOU are. i'm no fanboy, read some of my posts.

lol, geez

mattacular

lol im a fanboy for pointing out your biased mistakes oh the irony.

of corse this is all futile, it still dosen't adress the fact that the PS3 controller is worse. ask anyone who has played both, they will tell you that the 360 controler is much better.

[QUOTE="mattacular"][QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"][QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

Dude, I can say whatever the hell I want in whatever way I want to say it. Of course it's an opinion! I'm sick of the moronic notion that I have to tag IMO to every word I say. Use your brain.

Also, its funny that you tell me to stop stating things as fact and then you go onto say all that stuff in the bolded segment without qualifying it in any fashion. Complete contradiction.

I personally think Sony needs to evolve as far as their controller. Things will began to shows flaws over time. This notion that the Dualshock will stay perfect is dumb IMO. There's always room for improvement.

Forensic-Klown

lol, calm down.

you calm?

good boy.

ALWAYS, state...IMO, expecially with the words you use, it comes across as some sort of FACT, which it ISN'T. The controller has won awards and been stated to be a great controller....live with it.

the bold part you highlighted, was ME coming across like you, see how silly it sounds? lol

everyone has there opinions, while the controller isn't perfect to you, it IS to others. Atleast it isn't a rip off of any other controller out there, unlike the 360's. (cough* dreamcast *cough)

The PS3's controller isn't a rip of any other is it? Really?

Well tell me, does this look familiar?

Looks an awful lot like this...

Doesn't it?

Well, just in case you don't believe me, take a look at this.

PS3's controller isn't a rip my ass.

Sorry, i still don't see a controller that looks anything like the PS one, the home button was also taken from the PSP which debuted in 2004, b4 the 360 LOL.

the 360 controller is almost identical to the dreamcast in button placement.

youyr 1st post had so many errors. for one the MS sidewinder had triggers before the dreamcast. Secondly, the d pads are nothing alike and thirdly neither is the analog stick the 360 ones are concave whereas the dreamcast one was convex sorry but i reallly think you need to go back to school.

and you need to read, OBVIOUSLY the shape is different but the button layouts are almost identical, inlcuding the triggers..if you can't see that ..then you in denial.

MS just added its own design of the shape and an extra stick....SEE?

hello MS sidewinder had triggers before the dreamcast i concede the point about the a,b,x and Y buttons regardless of the fact that the sidewinder had those too, but its extremely hypocritical to criticise MS for that when sony unveiled the motion sensing six axis just to steal Nintendos thunder so what is your point exactly?>

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

The PS3's controller isn't a rip of any other is it? Really?

Well tell me, does this look familiar?

Looks an awful lot like this...

Doesn't it?

Well, just in case you don't believe me, take a look at this.

PS3's controller isn't a rip my ass.

Forensic-Klown

Sorry, i still don't see a controller that looks anything like the PS one, the home button was also taken from the PSP which debuted in 2004, b4 the 360 LOL.

the 360 controller is almost identical to the dreamcast in button placement.

Nothing? Nothing at all? Wow, do you need glasses or something? Are you not seeing the same diamond button placement on the PS1 controller? Are you not seeing the fact that Sony conveniently added an analog stick and rumble after Nintendo debuted those features on the N64? Are you not seeing the fact that Sony saw the buzz that the Wii remote was getting and tacked on motion sensing technology of their own?

The home button on the PSP doesn't perform anything like the Guide button on the 360 or the PS button on the PS3, get real.

As it was already shown, Microsoft has been making game pads with analog sticks and triggers years before the Dreamcast even came out, but I guess they still ripped off that controller right? :roll:

Matt, plz don't interrupt our argument...what you just stated, is basically self ownage to what YOU are. i'm no fanboy, read some of my posts.

lol, geez

Forensic-Klown

TheGames image just proves you wrong, theres no point arguing anymore

Tragic kindom.

your point?

your the one claiming your original statements as some facts, like i said, simply state IYO..and i won't come in after you. If i didn't others would have. SIMPLE RIGHT?

you also say the 360 doesn't rip of the dreamcast and looks different, but then state..so what if it used the look? LOL

WOW!

and you call me a moron?

riiiiiight!

its almost identical, minus the shape..which i clearly stated.

the button layouts and triggers etc, are all the same, basically.

next time plz be more carefull with your words, since you pretend your no fanboy, or ARE YOU?

Forensic-Klown

You are still splitting hairs. What I said was clearly an opinion. I am of the opinion that the Dualshock is flawed so I would have prefered a new build. I said as much in my original post. There is no reason I should have to state IMO just because you have a mental handicap.

As far as the DC controller goes, I never sid so what if they borrowed the look or whatever strawman you used. I said so what if they borrowed some elements. You're going to have to learn how to read (complete with comprehension) if you wish to be taken seriously.

Also: I find it rather ironic that you completely ignore the point about the PS controller borrowing from the NES when they both have a D-Pad and 4 face buttons, a start select button and shoulder buttons in relatively the same positions. The only thing dramatically different is the shape.

I believe that the PS controller wasn't a copycat, it just borrowed some things, albiet many. The shape makes it different, much like the 360 controller and the Dreamcast controller.

You clearly have a double standard for Sony and the PlayStation brand.

As for being a fanboy, I think you'll be shocked to learn that I only own a PS3.

[QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"]

Tragic kindom.

your point?

your the one claiming your original statements as some facts, like i said, simply state IYO..and i won't come in after you. If i didn't others would have. SIMPLE RIGHT?

you also say the 360 doesn't rip of the dreamcast and looks different, but then state..so what if it used the look? LOL

WOW!

and you call me a moron?

riiiiiight!

its almost identical, minus the shape..which i clearly stated.

the button layouts and triggers etc, are all the same, basically.

next time plz be more carefull with your words, since you pretend your no fanboy, or ARE YOU?

Tragic_Kingdom7

You are still splitting hairs. What I said was clearly an opinion. I am of the opinion that the Dualshock is flawed so I would have prefered a new build. I said as much in my original post. There is no reason I should have to state IMO just because you have a mental handicap.

As far as the DC controller goes, I never said it's OK they borrowed the look or whatever strawman you used. I said it's OK that they borrowed some elements. You're going to have to learn how to read (complete with comprehension) if you wish to be taken seriously.

Also: I find it rather ironic that you completely ignore the point about the PS controller borrowing from the NES when they both have a D-Pad and 4 face buttons, a start select button and shoulder buttons in relatively the same positions. The only thing dramatically different is the shape.

I believe that the PS controller wasn't a copycat, it just borrowed some things. The shape makes it different, much like the 360 controller and the Dreamcast controller.

You clearly have a double standard for Sony and the PlayStation brand.

As for being a fanboy, I think you'll be shocked to learn that I only own a PS3.

RIIIIIIIGHT, coming from a guy who called me a moron and brainless?

Seriously, plz stop. your not worth arguing, and fanboy's simply don't understand.

I respect your opinion, but next time....state IMO, otherwise it will be taken wrongly. Thats how it works around here..live with it.

Good bye.

Nothing? Nothing at all? Wow, do you need glasses or something? Are you not seeing the same diamond button placement on the PS1 controller? Are you not seeing the fact that Sony conveniently added an analog stick and rumble after Nintendo debuted those features on the N64? Are you not seeing the fact that Sony saw the buzz that the Wii remote was getting and tacked on motion sensing technology of their own?

The home button on the PSP doesn't perform anything like the Guide button on the 360 or the PS button on the PS3, get real.

As it was already shown, Microsoft has been making game pads with analog sticks and triggers years before the Dreamcast even came out, but I guess they still ripped off that controller right? :roll:

The_Game21x

Beautiful ownage, man. Just beatiful.

However, I don't know if you'll get through to him. He has a double-standard.

[RIIIIIIIGHT, coming from a guy who called me a moron and brainless?

Seriously, plz stop. your not worth arguing, and fanboy's simply don't understand.

I respect your opinion, but next time....state IMO, otherwise it will be taken wrongly. Thats how it works around here..live with it.

Good bye.

Forensic-Klown

I wouldn't call you a moron and brainless if you weren't. But I like to tell the truth.

As for your comment about stating IMO, why should I have to add IMO just because you can't use your brain and jump to conclusions?

Also, you're the ONLY one that nitpicked at my post that way, you're the only one that has ever done that and I don't use IMO very often.

That should tell you something.

Also, I do own a PS3 and you are a moron. Everything works out.

[QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

The PS3's controller isn't a rip of any other is it? Really?

Well tell me, does this look familiar?

Looks an awful lot like this...

Doesn't it?

Well, just in case you don't believe me, take a look at this.

PS3's controller isn't a rip my ass.

The_Game21x

Sorry, i still don't see a controller that looks anything like the PS one, the home button was also taken from the PSP which debuted in 2004, b4 the 360 LOL.

the 360 controller is almost identical to the dreamcast in button placement.

Nothing? Nothing at all? Wow, do you need glasses or something? Are you not seeing the same diamond button placement on the PS1 controller? Are you not seeing the fact that Sony conveniently added an analog stick and rumble after Nintendo debuted those features on the N64? Are you not seeing the fact that Sony saw the buzz that the Wii remote was getting and tacked on motion sensing technology of their own?

The home button on the PSP doesn't perform anything like the Guide button on the 360 or the PS button on the PS3, get real.

As it was already shown, Microsoft has been making game pads with analog sticks and triggers years before the Dreamcast even came out, but I guess they still ripped off that controller right? :roll:

YES IT DOES, you obviously DON'T own a PSP...its basically the same thing, the home button on the PSP basically cuts of any game when pushed and can be exited, like the PS3 home button, OBVIOUSLY the PSP version would be less advanced with less features compared to the CONSOLE's version, right?

Sony used the PSP interfaces and home button and used it on the PS3...lol.

obviously the home button on the 360/ps3 won't be like the PSP home, for obvious reasons, a console is ment to have it different, but the same concept is there.

stop grasping at straws, PLZ.

as for the controllers, i'm well aware of sony using other ideas, but i was talking about being indentical, which the 360 and dreamcast are ALMOST are, besides the obvious shaped difference, etc. plz read more carefully.

MS may have added the idea to a console FIRST, but SONY already had the idea done for the PSP which came out in 2004

thank you.

I think the Dualshock 3 is a more universal controller where as the 360 controller is better for shooting games, hence the fact it has triggers. Even still the Dualshock 3 is a great controller for all types of games and even the 360's controllers advantage over shooters isn't great enough to make the controller better itself. The Dualshock controller has been around since the days of the PS1, and if that isn't telling you something then im surprised your even capable of reading this.ONLYDOD

The only reason it's still around is because Sony didn't change it. If Sony would have changed it (for whatever reason) it wouldn't be around.

To act as if this is somehow dependant on quality (though it might be) and then making a comment like "I'm surprised you're even capable of reading this" is pure fallacy.

[QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"][RIIIIIIIGHT, coming from a guy who called me a moron and brainless?

Seriously, plz stop. your not worth arguing, and fanboy's simply don't understand.

I respect your opinion, but next time....state IMO, otherwise it will be taken wrongly. Thats how it works around here..live with it.

Good bye.

Tragic_Kingdom7

I wouldn't call you a moron and brainless if you weren't. But I like to tell the truth.

As for your comment about stating IMO, why should I have to add IMO just because you can't use your brain and jump to conclusions?

Also, you're the ONLY one that nitpicked at my post that way, you're the only one that has ever done that and I don't use IMO very often.

That should tell you something.

Also, I do own a PS3 and you are a moron. Everything works out.

what truth? you mean your fanboyism?

i like telling the truth for how you act, but i didn't, for obvious reason, i'm not some idiot who trys to win an argument by calling others brainless and a moron, thats immature, right?

simply calm down and state YOUR OPINION, not silly statments like there some kinda of facts.

your the one who basically self owned himself with the controller copying ideas, claiming AT FIRST ms didn't, then who cares if they did?

makes more sense me using those remarks then you did, correct?

I think the Dualshock 3 is a more universal controller where as the 360 controller is better for shooting games, hence the fact it has triggers. Even still the Dualshock 3 is a great controller for all types of games and even the 360's controllers advantage over shooters isn't great enough to make the controller better itself. The Dualshock controller has been around since the days of the PS1, and if that isn't telling you something then im surprised your even capable of reading this.ONLYDOD

/THREAD!

thank you!

[QUOTE="ONLYDOD"]I think the Dualshock 3 is a more universal controller where as the 360 controller is better for shooting games, hence the fact it has triggers. Even still the Dualshock 3 is a great controller for all types of games and even the 360's controllers advantage over shooters isn't great enough to make the controller better itself. The Dualshock controller has been around since the days of the PS1, and if that isn't telling you something then im surprised your even capable of reading this.Tragic_Kingdom7

The only reason it's still around is because Sony didn't change it. If Sony would have changed it (for whatever reason) it wouldn't be around.

To act as if this is somehow dependant on quality (though it might be) and then making a comment like "I'm surprised you're even capable of reading this" is pure fallacy.

Okay fair enough, the whole "I'm surprised you're even capable of reading this" was a bit misleading, but my argument is dependant on the quality of the Dualshock controller, of course the only reason it's still around is because Sony never changed it, and why would they change something that isn't broken?

About the better games part:

No, I am not buying a PS3 to "wait" for all the amazing titles to come out. But I'm not buying an unreliable 360, either.

I think the Dualshock 3 is a more universal controller where as the 360 controller is better for shooting games, hence the fact it has triggers. Even still the Dualshock 3 is a great controller for all types of games and even the 360's controllers advantage over shooters isn't great enough to make the controller better itself. The Dualshock controller has been around since the days of the PS1, and if that isn't telling you something then im surprised your even capable of reading this.ONLYDOD

It tells me Sony is incapable of improving on their design. Lets be serious. Nothing in life is perfect and its been two gens and they still haven't found a way to improve on their design. They tried before with the Boomerang Design and failed.

This thing feels so solid and even though the full charge lasts about 2 hours less then the regular Sixaxis depending on how much rumble is used, it still last's a heck of alot longer then the 360 controller batteries or full charge lasts....and it feels so much more comfortable ergonomically in your hands then the 360 controller ever did.

I warned you 360 fanboys, it might take Sony a little longer but by the time the complete package of the PS3 is done Xbox boys will be drooling with envy, between our more reliable and powerful hardware to our now superior controller with rumble and motion sensor controls in one, not to mention the Home online community soon to launch later this year and such hit titles like Haze, Metal Gear, Little Big Planet and Gran Turismo 5....well

The choice is clear so trade up your future Red Rings of Death consoles and join the winning team, you'll never regret it.

PS3nut

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[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

[QUOTE="ONLYDOD"]I think the Dualshock 3 is a more universal controller where as the 360 controller is better for shooting games, hence the fact it has triggers. Even still the Dualshock 3 is a great controller for all types of games and even the 360's controllers advantage over shooters isn't great enough to make the controller better itself. The Dualshock controller has been around since the days of the PS1, and if that isn't telling you something then im surprised your even capable of reading this.ONLYDOD

The only reason it's still around is because Sony didn't change it. If Sony would have changed it (for whatever reason) it wouldn't be around.

To act as if this is somehow dependant on quality (though it might be) and then making a comment like "I'm surprised you're even capable of reading this" is pure fallacy.

Okay fair enough, the whole "I'm surprised you're even capable of reading this" was a bit misleading, but my argument is dependant on the quality of the Dualshock controller, of course the only reason it's still around is because Sony never changed it, and why would they change something that isn't broken?

No, your argument was Sony didn't change it there for it's the best. That's silly. Sony didn't change it cause Sony didn't change it. They should have cause it has flaws and the 360 and wii controler are now better IMO

[QUOTE="mattacular"][QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"]

Matt, plz don't interrupt our argument...what you just stated, is basically self ownage to what YOU are. i'm no fanboy, read some of my posts.

lol, geez

thegoldenpoo

lol im a fanboy for pointing out your biased mistakes oh the irony.

of corse this is all futile, it still dosen't adress the fact that the PS3 controller is worse. ask anyone who has played both, they will tell you that the 360 controler is much better.

i dunno...personally, i like the 360 controller more, but the DS3 is slightly better for fighting games (curse you, 360 Dpad!)

[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"][QUOTE="Forensic-Klown"][RIIIIIIIGHT, coming from a guy who called me a moron and brainless?

Seriously, plz stop. your not worth arguing, and fanboy's simply don't understand.

I respect your opinion, but next time....state IMO, otherwise it will be taken wrongly. Thats how it works around here..live with it.

Good bye.

Forensic-Klown

I wouldn't call you a moron and brainless if you weren't. But I like to tell the truth.

As for your comment about stating IMO, why should I have to add IMO just because you can't use your brain and jump to conclusions?

Also, you're the ONLY one that nitpicked at my post that way, you're the only one that has ever done that and I don't use IMO very often.

That should tell you something.

Also, I do own a PS3 and you are a moron. Everything works out.

what truth? you mean the fanboyism?

i like telling the truth for how you act, but i didn't, for obvious reason, i'm not some idiot who trys to win an argument by calling others brainless and a moron, thats immature, right?

simply calm down and state YOUR OPINION, not silly statments like there some kinda of facts.

your the one who basically self owned himself with the controller copying ideas, claiming AT FIRST ms didn't, then who cares if they did?

makes more sense me using those remarks then you did, correct?

I did state my opinion. You're the one that is trying to make it into a fact. I never said they were facts, that's simply an abritrary feeling that you got from reading my posts. Please show me evidence where I claimed anything was a FACT.

Also, I said that they adopted ideas, I didn't say they copied the controller or it didn't say the controllers were the same, because I obviously don't think that. You're posting strawmen and trying to argue on your own terms rather than what I said.

I have the same standards for the PS controller that I do for the 360 controller. They both borrow placement of buttons and etc. but the shape of the controllers make them feel completely different.

It's you who refuses to admit that the PS controller borrowed much of the button placement of the SNES controller just like the 360 borrowed button placement from the Dreamcast controller.

To be honest, the button placement between the original PS controller and the NES controller is more similar than that of the 360 compared to the Dreamcast. With the 360, there's clearly more buttons and there's a home button, which the DC's controller lacks.

With the orginal PS controller and the SNES controller, you have the same amount of buttons in relatively the same places.

Yet in both cases, the shape is much different, giving the controllers drastically different feels.

The fact that you nitpick and can't get the argument straight is why I call you a moron.

And no, I am not a fanboy. It takes much more than disagreeing with you to be a fanboy. Also calling you a moron doesn't make me a fanboy. You're not important enough that calling you a moron would make anyone a fanboy.

Okay fair enough, the whole "I'm surprised you're even capable of reading this" was a bit misleading, but my argument is dependant on the quality of the Dualshock controller, of course the only reason it's still around is because Sony never changed it, and why would they change something that isn't broken?ONLYDOD

It's an assumption one could make, but hardly has a positive truth value. That is what I am challenging.

But we'll leave it at that, because your interpretation of why it wasn't changed is as good as mine and you could be right. Right in that Sony doesn't think it's broken.

Though that would be suspect for the reason that they did want to try a new design.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Nothing? Nothing at all? Wow, do you need glasses or something? Are you not seeing the same diamond button placement on the PS1 controller? Are you not seeing the fact that Sony conveniently added an analog stick and rumble after Nintendo debuted those features on the N64? Are you not seeing the fact that Sony saw the buzz that the Wii remote was getting and tacked on motion sensing technology of their own?

The home button on the PSP doesn't perform anything like the Guide button on the 360 or the PS button on the PS3, get real.

As it was already shown, Microsoft has been making game pads with analog sticks and triggers years before the Dreamcast even came out, but I guess they still ripped off that controller right? :roll:

Forensic-Klown

YES IT DOES, you obviously DON'T own a PSP...its basically the same thing, the home button on the PSP basically cuts of any game when pushed and can be exited, like the PS3 home button, OBVIOUSLY the PSP version would be less advanced with less features compared to the CONSOLE's version, right?

Sony used the PSP interfaces and home button and used it on the PS3...lol.

obviously the home button on the 360/ps3 won't be like the PSP home, for obvious reasons, a console is ment to have it different, but the same concept is there.

stop grasping at straws, PLZ.

as for the controllers, i'm well aware of sony using other ideas, but i was talking about being indentical, which the 360 and dreamcast are ALMOST are, besides the obvious shaped difference, etc. plz read more carefully.

MS may have added the idea to a console FIRST, but SONY already had the idea done for the PSP which came out in 2004

thank you.

Yes, I do own a PSP. Would you like to see it? Don't make assumptions on what you don't know buddy. :|

Fact is, All the home button shows you is the date, time, and allow you to quit a game you're currently playing. If you knew anything about the Xbox 360's guide button you would know that the 360's guide does far more than that by allowing you to access your friend's list, send messages, play music and much, much more. The PSP's home button isn't even in the same ball park when you consider the number of features the Guide encompasses.

The Xbox 360's controller is not, in any way, identical to the Dreamcast any more so than the PS1's controller is to the SNES's. All you're doing is splitting hairs.

As Tragic_Kingdom already said, you have a ridiculous double standard, a double standard that's seriously blinding you to the fact's thatare right in front of you.

Know your roots.

As Tragic_Kingdom already said, you have a ridiculous double standard, a double standard that's seriously blinding you to the fact's thatare right in front of you.

The_Game21x

Yet he calls me a fanboy simply for calling him a moron, and spews out this one-sided garbage, still thinking he's not a fanboy.

It's insane.

Know your roots.

Blackbond

:lol:

Regardless of all that stuff it's pretty obvious at this point that Sony will never change the Dual Shock unless they get sued again...

The Dual Shock stole rumble and analog from Nintendo, fact. MS had controller pads for a long time so they may have taken some notes from Sony and Nintendo maybe Sega, but not much.

I like the 360 pad the best, it's best for control.

[QUOTE="ONLYDOD"]I think the Dualshock 3 is a more universal controller where as the 360 controller is better for shooting games, hence the fact it has triggers. Even still the Dualshock 3 is a great controller for all types of games and even the 360's controllers advantage over shooters isn't great enough to make the controller better itself. The Dualshock controller has been around since the days of the PS1, and if that isn't telling you something then im surprised your even capable of reading this.Blackbond

It tells me Sony is incapable of improving on their design. Lets be serious. Nothing in life is perfect and its been two gens and they still haven't found a way to improve on their design. They tried before with the Boomerang Design and failed.

You didn't add IMO, Blackbond. Now Forensic Clown is going to teach you a lesson. :roll:

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="ONLYDOD"]I think the Dualshock 3 is a more universal controller where as the 360 controller is better for shooting games, hence the fact it has triggers. Even still the Dualshock 3 is a great controller for all types of games and even the 360's controllers advantage over shooters isn't great enough to make the controller better itself. The Dualshock controller has been around since the days of the PS1, and if that isn't telling you something then im surprised your even capable of reading this.Tragic_Kingdom7

It tells me Sony is incapable of improving on their design. Lets be serious. Nothing in life is perfect and its been two gens and they still haven't found a way to improve on their design. They tried before with the Boomerang Design and failed.

You didn't add IMO, Blackbond. Now Forensic Clown is going to teach you a lesson. :roll:

:lol:

[QUOTE="ONLYDOD"]I think the Dualshock 3 is a more universal controller where as the 360 controller is better for shooting games, hence the fact it has triggers. Even still the Dualshock 3 is a great controller for all types of games and even the 360's controllers advantage over shooters isn't great enough to make the controller better itself. The Dualshock controller has been around since the days of the PS1, and if that isn't telling you something then im surprised your even capable of reading this.Blackbond

It tells me Sony is incapable of improving on their design. Lets be serious. Nothing in life is perfect and its been two gens and they still haven't found a way to improve on their design. They tried before with the Boomerang Design and failed.

There's no need to improve design, the PS controller is perfect all around, just the most balanced thing overall...

You know what?Microsoft rushing their console first, not having an sku with a HDD, and buying out all developers to work on their console shows me their incapable of innovation, or creativity...just in it for the money completely, and will do whatever it takes to try and get in first place, but still get stomped on by the wii and fight for top consoles in second place neck in neck with the more expensive and 'Less Games, platform...

The original xbox controller was pefect in my eyes, if they had a controller like that for the PS3 I'd buy it.Although, everyone else I know hated it because it felt to awkward in their hands.The 360 controller feels horrible in my hands, it feels way to small and mini, I hate mini controllers, I felt they should've offered a choice between the big and small controller for the 360, maybe then I would've bought it, because when I played the 360 the small hollow controller felt cheap in my hands, even the one with vibration which came later *Because all 360's didn't come with vibration, HDD, Cordless controllers, even though everyone critisizes Sony for having a 40GB that can't play ps2 games but gets everything else right*...

The PS controller isn't best for every situation, but it's overall the most balanced and widespread controller there is.Some people like the 360 small controller, others don't *Like me*, while I don't 100% like the PS controller like I did with the Xbox 1 controller, overall it felt more so comfortable through different generes of titles than any other controller for me, and anyone else I've talked to who's critiqued it...

Also, with Dual Shock 3 technology and the ****c design, easily the PS controller is the best controller on the market right now...