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#1 Reyes360
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Crysis comes onto the scene and absolutely brings all rigs down to their knees. I remember back in the day the bar was 60 for Doom3. I guess I was right, my 8800GTS640mb isnt gonna get me very High settings that the developer promised.

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#2 htekemerald
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Actualy hermits have set the bar at 25 fps now.
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#3 MikeE21286
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You keep making threads about how your 8800 GTS 640 doesn't get you very high.....give it a rest man. It is what it is.
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#4 cobrax75
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I love how sub-HD is good enough for console gamers now :roll:
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#5 elbow2k
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Just drop it already, I've got the same video card and it doesn't bother me.
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#6 Reyes360
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I love how sub-HD is good enough for console gamers now :roll:cobrax75

truth must hurt.

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#7 Reyes360
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Just drop it already, I've got the same video card and it doesn't bother me.elbow2k

hermits said I was stupid for saying it at the time. Ok I'll accept that I won the debate at the time.

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#8 XaosII
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I think this concept might be new to you. Its this thing called "options." It something that gives you the ability to choose. I understand you dont get that with a 360 - You can only choose to buy a console that will die, you have no real choice when it comes to online play, the gamse are all fixed to certain resolution which may not even be 720 in HD, and you have to always pay higher prices for games - but options exist on the PC.

Aint it grand that the PC can allow you to run the game at nany frame rate you choose? Want to run at a 5 FPS? Crank up the res and AA! Want to run it at 100 FPS? Lower graphics settings. Making a game perform to my tastes? I know its a foreign concept for consoles, but it exists.

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#9 Boring_Bland
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Seriously, when games like DMC(which have been running at 60fps since last gen) and SMG our now at 60fps. 60 fps is becoming commonplace in the console world. Another reason as to why I don't neeed a PC.
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I love how sub-HD is good enough for console gamers now :roll:cobrax75

:D.

Reyes, 1 game pushes the boundaries, 30 FPs is playable by all means, not competitivly online, but then again I personally think Crysis online sucks.

CoD4 360 600P enough said ... the game isnt even that special looking.

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#11 cobrax75
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the thing is, that Reyes360 was hyping Mass effect non-stop....which has huge framerate problems, and a lot of graphical bugs in general.
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#12 Reyes360
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[QUOTE="cobrax75"]I love how sub-HD is good enough for console gamers now :roll:Meu2k7

:D.

Reyes, 1 game pushes the boundaries, 30 FPs is playable by all means, not competitivly online, but then again I personally think Crysis online sucks.

CoD4 360 600P enough said ... the game isnt even that special looking.

yeah I think you argued with me that my 8800GTS 640 would run the game just well at the time too. lol ok Happy Thanksgiving.

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[QUOTE="elbow2k"]Just drop it already, I've got the same video card and it doesn't bother me.Reyes360

hermits said I was stupid for saying it at the time. Ok I'll accept that I won the debate at the time.

You won what? The award for biggest graphics whore on Gamespot?

Seriously, do yourself a favor and quit PC gaming, and don't forget to stop crying because you can't run a game on it's highest settings.

Last time I checked, Crysis had other things besides great graphics.

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#15 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]I love how sub-HD is good enough for console gamers now :roll:Reyes360

:D.

Reyes, 1 game pushes the boundaries, 30 FPs is playable by all means, not competitivly online, but then again I personally think Crysis online sucks.

CoD4 360 600P enough said ... the game isnt even that special looking.

yeah I think you argued with me that my 8800GTS 640 would run the game just well at the time too. lol ok Happy Thanksgiving.

It does run the game well, I play at High/Very High at 30 FPS .. granted its only 7XXP though, I cant play at my native rez of 1650 x 1050 ... which does lower the quality a good deal.

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#16 deviates1080
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I was under the impression that thanks to the customisation of a games resolution and detail, frame rate on the PC was all about personal preference. If you feel like sacraficing a few FPS to improve the visuals (or the other way round)then whatever, that's the beauty of PC gaming.
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#17 t3hTwinky
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Oh stop crying. My rig isn't as good as yours and I run it high settings 1280 x 1040 with 2x AA and it runs fine. If you've got such a big hairy problem drop it to 1024 x 768 and up the AA.

And minor tweaking isn't going to sprain your ass.

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I think this concept might be new to you. Its this thing called "options." It something that gives you the ability to choose. I understand you dont get that with a 360 - You can only choose to buy a console that will die, you have no real choice when it comes to online play, the gamse are all fixed to certain resolution which may not even be 720 in HD, and you have to always pay higher prices for games - but options exist on the PC.

Aint it grand that the PC can allow you to run the game at nany frame rate you choose? Want to run at a 5 FPS? Crank up the res and AA! Want to run it at 100 FPS? Lower graphics settings. Making a game perform to my tastes? I know its a foreign concept for consoles, but it exists.

XaosII

I'm not really keen on playing games that look uglier than a game that was released 3-4 years ago.

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#19 XaosII
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I'm not really keen on playing games that look uglier than a game that was released 3-4 years ago.

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Who says you have to?

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#20 horrowhip
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How about this? 60 FPS is demanded from a fast paced FPS (like Doom 3, UT3, Quake, etc.) and for a SLOW PACED GAME like CRYSIS, 30 FPS is good. Now, how about we bring the fact that the consoles wouldn't even be able to hand 10 FPS for Crysis AS IS. Now, lets bring up how the consoles can't even keep Gears of War at a stable 30 FPS while us Hermits are sitting safely at 60 FPS with textures twice as high res and resolutions nearly double. Next, lets bring up UT3 which will be locked at 30 FPS on the consoles. Now.... UT3 at 30 FPS would look like Crysis at15 FPS. Not even kidding. I notice how you Reyes can't even take ONE WEEK without trying to take a cheap shot at us Hermits so how about this.... Go try and get HALF the technology in Crysis onto consoles at 30 FPS an see what happens. Just try it. 30 FPS in Crysis is amazingly smooth thanks to a new tech called MOTION BLUR. MOVIES(Yes I said MOVIES) are at 24 FPS. 24. Now, the reason they look smooth is because of motion blur. Motion Blur is an optical trick that makes your eyes see movement in a more natural way. Now, Crysis uses the SAME EXACT MOTION BLUR as in movies so 30 FPS may as well be 100. Now do you want to stop complaining?
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"bohoo I cant run it on max, waa, waa, waa"

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[QUOTE="cobrax75"]I love how sub-HD is good enough for console gamers now :roll:Meu2k7

:D.

Reyes, 1 game pushes the boundaries, 30 FPs is playable by all means, not competitivly online, but then again I personally think Crysis online sucks.

CoD4 360 600P enough said ... the game isnt even that special looking.

but cod4 on 360 is 60 FPS :D

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#23 whocares9
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The thing is Crysis is a insane game that needs insane system requirments. We have to settle for now 30 fps in Crysis but evetually we can move up. If you run 30fps on a console game like gears it will be 30fps forever. This is only Crysis though since it is really demanding but this game is worth dealing with less fps for now, it is that good. I run it at 45 anyways though :P
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I think this concept might be new to you. Its this thing called "options." It something that gives you the ability to choose. I understand you dont get that with a 360 - You can only choose to buy a console that will die, you have no real choice when it comes to online play, the gamse are all fixed to certain resolution which may not even be 720 in HD, and you have to always pay higher prices for games - but options exist on the PC.

Aint it grand that the PC can allow you to run the game at nany frame rate you choose? Want to run at a 5 FPS? Crank up the res and AA! Want to run it at 100 FPS? Lower graphics settings. Making a game perform to my tastes? I know its a foreign concept for consoles, but it exists.

XaosII

After playing the game on high O.O,you will not want to lower the settings. Even though you have options,what hermit on here has said they lower the settings for Crysis to get higher framerates?I remember none...they all just say the game runs so smooth at 25fps...and it does. I think it has something to do with the motion blurr,but I ran the demo at high...very high,whichever option was the highest,at 27fps and it seem like a smooth 60.

EDIT:Maybe not a smooth 60...but smooth enough.

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#25 gongytron
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so what? the bar for lems is 10fps. 30fps is pretty dam good
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#26 bers316
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Crysis comes onto the scene and absolutely brings all rigs down to their knees. I remember back in the day the bar was 60 for Doom3. I guess I was right, my 8800GTS640mb isnt gonna get me very High settings that the developer promised.

Reyes360

Translation: Waaaaaaaaaah!

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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]I love how sub-HD is good enough for console gamers now :roll:mingo123

:D.

Reyes, 1 game pushes the boundaries, 30 FPs is playable by all means, not competitivly online, but then again I personally think Crysis online sucks.

CoD4 360 600P enough said ... the game isnt even that special looking.

but cod4 on 360 is 60 FPS :D

its also 600p, and can be played that way by a mid end card easily.

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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]I love how sub-HD is good enough for console gamers now :roll:mingo123

:D.

Reyes, 1 game pushes the boundaries, 30 FPs is playable by all means, not competitivly online, but then again I personally think Crysis online sucks.

CoD4 360 600P enough said ... the game isnt even that special looking.

but cod4 on 360 is 60 FPS :D

I think my video card fell asleep running that game.

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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]I love how sub-HD is good enough for console gamers now :roll:mingo123

:D.

Reyes, 1 game pushes the boundaries, 30 FPs is playable by all means, not competitivly online, but then again I personally think Crysis online sucks.

CoD4 360 600P enough said ... the game isnt even that special looking.

but cod4 on 360 is 60 FPS :D

mine is at 75 FPS maxed at all times... I locked it at 75 MHz refresh to keep the temp down.... don't think it would have mattered though.

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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]I love how sub-HD is good enough for console gamers now :roll:mingo123

:D.

Reyes, 1 game pushes the boundaries, 30 FPs is playable by all means, not competitivly online, but then again I personally think Crysis online sucks.

CoD4 360 600P enough said ... the game isnt even that special looking.

but cod4 on 360 is 60 FPS :D

CoD4 for me is 90FPS @ 1050p with 2xAA and 8xAF(consoles don't even have AF texture filtering). Crysis @ high settings has very good frame blur, which makes 30FPS very smooth, also it doesn't have dips in FPS, which means that the framerate is consistent. Anyways nobody is making us play Crysis @ 30fps, one could play around with some options and run the game the way he prefers, be it 30, 45 or 60FPS.
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[QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="mingo123"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]I love how sub-HD is good enough for console gamers now :roll:farrell2k

:D.

Reyes, 1 game pushes the boundaries, 30 FPs is playable by all means, not competitivly online, but then again I personally think Crysis online sucks.

CoD4 360 600P enough said ... the game isnt even that special looking.

but cod4 on 360 is 60 FPS :D

CoD4 for me is 90FPS @ 1050p with 2xAA and 8xAF(consoles don't even have AF texture filtering).

? Sure they do. Oblivion on the 360 and S3 both take advantage of Anisotropic filtering, with the PS3 doing it better than the 360.

Maybe PS3 oblivion had some AF, but the 360 proly didn't have AF filtering, maybe trilinear, it really didn't look like AF to me. but still not 8x or 16x AF like a PC. Also my 8800GT has the best AF ATM.
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#33 trix5817
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A 360 fanboy claiming that 30fps is too low?:lol::lol: How's ME? How's running CoD4 and Halo 3 at 600p? At least PC gamers get a choice of whether they want more FPS or not. You don't. Must suck eh?

Give it a break Reyes. It's getting really old.

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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

[QUOTE="cobrax75"]I love how sub-HD is good enough for console gamers now :roll:mingo123

:D.

Reyes, 1 game pushes the boundaries, 30 FPs is playable by all means, not competitivly online, but then again I personally think Crysis online sucks.

CoD4 360 600P enough said ... the game isnt even that special looking.

but cod4 on 360 is 60 FPS :D

And runs at 600p....not that big of a feat bud.

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#35 Reyes360
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no wonder why hermits get a bad rap. lol PC gaming will be dead in a few years anyway.
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Are you kidding I'm glad they made the game scaleup higher than what modern hardware is capable of. It looks great on mid-range settings and it would be just stupid to limit the settings so current cards could run it on high. Oblivion was kind of like that. Looked great but had very little scaling and it now takes mods to actually make it look good. Developers could've easily had those same player created alterations as setting for future computers.
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no wonder why hermits get a bad rap. lol PC gaming will be dead in a few years anyway.Reyes360

if you could go a week without bashing hermits I would be amazed. Seriously, its ALWAYS the SAME thing. The exact same thing. If you could come up with more creative arguements then MAYBE hermits wouldn't be so freaking bitter when trying to talk to you. Seriously, you are quite possibly the biggest fanboy in System Wars, and I have YET to see you go a week without making one or two of these threads. My post is a perfect example of something coming from someone who is severely annoyed by your constant stream of nonsense and useless posting.

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Why is it always the same thread?
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[QUOTE="XaosII"]

I think this concept might be new to you. Its this thing called "options." It something that gives you the ability to choose. I understand you dont get that with a 360 - You can only choose to buy a console that will die, you have no real choice when it comes to online play, the gamse are all fixed to certain resolution which may not even be 720 in HD, and you have to always pay higher prices for games - but options exist on the PC.

Aint it grand that the PC can allow you to run the game at nany frame rate you choose? Want to run at a 5 FPS? Crank up the res and AA! Want to run it at 100 FPS? Lower graphics settings. Making a game perform to my tastes? I know its a foreign concept for consoles, but it exists.

killab2oo5

After playing the game on high O.O,you will not want to lower the settings. Even though you have options,what hermit on here has said they lower the settings for Crysis to get higher framerates?I remember none...they all just say the game runs so smooth at 25fps...and it does. I think it has something to do with the motion blurr,but I ran the demo at high...very high,whichever option was the highest,at 27fps and it seem like a smooth 60.

EDIT:Maybe not a smooth 60...but smooth enough.

Exactly what i was thinking, in my 8500 gt the game runs at high except shaders and shadows, and the game itself feels very smooth despite running at 20-25 FPS. And for some reason the other shooters that i have installed in my PC feel a bit sluggish when running at 30 FPS

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#41 UssjTrunks
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The human eye can only track 24 fps or something anyway.
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#42 JimmyT2
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If you want to play at 60 FPS you can lower the graphics settings. On consoles you don't have that option and there is nothing you can do about a bad frame rate.
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#43 horrowhip
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Why is it always the same thread?Sir-Marwin105

exactly what I said.... Maybe he would get more friendly posts if he could come up with something more creative. He hasn't contributed to this forum in nearly 2 months.... That is unless you consider repeating threads OVER AND OVER contributing.

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LOL hermits! :lol: Now it's your turn to say 30fps is good enough. Oh and next year Nvidia is going to make you buy their new videocard to run Crysis over 30fps. Hermits you must love getting Milked! :lol:

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#45 horrowhip
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LOL hermits! :lol: Now it's your turn to say 30fps is good enough. Oh and next year Nvidia is going to make you buy their new videocard to run Crysis over 30fps. Hermits you must love getting Milked! :lol:

PS3_3DO

actually, with the latest driver I am sitting at a pretty 35 FPS with a minimum of 32 FPS. Besides, the next GPU will be able to run the game at the ULTRA High settings which aren't in the game yet but are going to be added for the 18 month update that Crytek told us about. So, Crysis, the best looking game ever, will look even better in a year and a half. I for one, will enjoy playing it again. I know I enjoyed replaying HL2 on the max settings. I enjoy my hobby and spend money on it willingly. If you can't respect that then I can't respect you. Besides, how is it milking if I can play new games at even better graphical settings? Far Cry 2 won't look as good as Crysis but that is gonna be good. Sins of a Solar Empire, Starcraft 2, Dragon Age(yes, it is still coming along. PC Gamer even talked to the Bioware CEO and he said it is looking amazing), Far Cry 2, Spore, Diablo 3(we ALL know that is in development. Blizzard has4 games in development. Starcraft 2, Lich King, a new IP, and one other game from an existing IP.... I think we can take a wild guess as to what it is.), and several other notable games are in production. Any hardware I buy will get its use.

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reyes. :lol:
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#47 devious742
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LOL hermits! :lol: Now it's your turn to say 30fps is good enough. Oh and next year Nvidia is going to make you buy their new videocard to run Crysis over 30fps. Hermits you must love getting Milked! :lol:

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arent most console game capped at 30fps....dude give it a rest....obviously you have never played crysis...constant 30-40fps is smooth...its might not be 60fps but its still good.....
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#49 Heil68
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For games like Crysis that awesome.
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#50 PikaPichu
Member since 2003 • 17813 Posts

Crysis comes onto the scene and absolutely brings all rigs down to their knees. I remember back in the day the bar was 60 for Doom3. I guess I was right, my 8800GTS640mb isnt gonna get me very High settings that the developer promised.

Reyes360

lol you should know better. Wait 6 months - 1 year for the next gen vidcards to be released. They should be a nice leapfrog from this gen of stuff.