I need to understand why PS3's graphics will exceed 360's in a years time.

I'm looking at PS3's hardware and I'm really not sure it's going to "Blow 360 away in a year."

First of all, people areassuming 360 will remain static and will never see advances in graphical quality.PS3 will then see major leaps in graphical quality,even though it has really gimped ram and a really poor gpu.This is the general consensus of Cows, and non-Cows, around this website. In a years time, PS3 multiplats will look better, exclusives will make 360 look like PS2, BluRay will allow for bigger-better games.

What hidden power does the PS3 have up it's sleeve that Developers are going to magically discover and blow 360 away? The Cell? :roll: RSX? :lol: The onlyHardware advantage PS3 has is BluRay, which allows PS3 to watch BluRay movies. That's it. The storage capacity is meaningless since all you'd have to do is swap a DVD9 every so often. That's why I bought mine. To watch 300 in high-def.

Look at the difference we saw with Xbox and PS2. Coming out one year after PS2, Xbox destroyed PS2 graphically by leaps and bounds. Complete massacre as far as graphics were concerned. You saw better quality with Xbox multiplats.

PS3 is out one year after 360... and most multiplats have framerate issues, look worse, run poorly... and you're telling me in a year, developers "WilL DiSCoVER TEh PoWEA Of TeH CeLL!!!" and unlock 120 fps and better graphics that make 360 look like N64?

Please school his confused Hermit.

you shouldnt judge so quickly.

Ahem

Teh cell will make all games totally ownz as soon as they find it in teh pS3!!!!!!11!

Teh Red Ring of DEATHHH!!!!111

Lair is da king it dont even matter if it got a bad score, i dont need gamespot to tell me what to play!

Once Nintendo harnesseseses teh P0Werrr of da Wii the graphiks will be da best!

Crysis Ownzzz

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Ahem

Teh cell will make all games totally ownz as soon as they find it in teh pS3!!!!!!11!

Teh Red Ring of DEATHHH!!!!111

Lair is da king it dont even matter if it got a bad score, i dont need gamespot to tell me what to play!

Once Nintendo harnesseseses teh P0Werrr of da Wii the graphiks will be da best!

Crysis Ownzzz

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Mateo14

i hate when people type like this as a joke, idk why but it just annoys me...

i hate when people type like this as a joke, idk why but it just annoys me...

[QUOTE="Mateo14"]

Ahem

Teh cell will make all games totally ownz as soon as they find it in teh pS3!!!!!!11!

Teh Red Ring of DEATHHH!!!!111

Lair is da king it dont even matter if it got a bad score, i dont need gamespot to tell me what to play!

Once Nintendo harnesseseses teh P0Werrr of da Wii the graphiks will be da best!

Crysis Ownzzz

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xboxrox11

i hate when people type like this as a joke, idk why but it just annoys me...

YOU ANNOY ME

Mateo14

i hate when people type like this as a joke, idk why but it just annoys me...

[QUOTE="Mateo14"]

Ahem

Teh cell will make all games totally ownz as soon as they find it in teh pS3!!!!!!11!

Teh Red Ring of DEATHHH!!!!111

Lair is da king it dont even matter if it got a bad score, i dont need gamespot to tell me what to play!

Once Nintendo harnesseseses teh P0Werrr of da Wii the graphiks will be da best!

Crysis Ownzzz

Expect to get a mix of these answers

xboxrox11

i hate when people type like this as a joke, idk why but it just annoys me...

YOU ANNOY ME

thats fine, just dont type in all caps.

I'm looking at PS3's hardware and I'm really not sure it's going to "Blow 360 away in a year."

First of all, people areassuming 360 will remain static and will never see advances in graphical quality.PS3 will then see major leaps in graphical quality,even though it has really gimped ram and a really poor gpu.This is the general consensus of Cows, and non-Cows, around this website. In a years time, PS3 multiplats will look better, exclusives will make 360 look like PS2, BluRay will allow for bigger-better games.

What hidden power does the PS3 have up it's sleeve that Developers are going to magically discover and blow 360 away? The Cell? :roll: RSX? :lol: The onlyHardware advantage PS3 has is BluRay, which allows PS3 to watch BluRay movies. That's it. The storage capacity is meaningless since all you'd have to do is swap a DVD9 every so often. That's why I bought mine. To watch 300 in high-def.

Look at the difference we saw with Xbox and PS2. Coming out one year after PS2, Xbox destroyed PS2 graphically by leaps and bounds. Complete massacre as far as graphics were concerned. You saw better quality with Xbox multiplats.

PS3 is out one year after 360... and most multiplats have framerate issues, look worse, run poorly... and you're telling me in a year, developers "WilL DiSCoVER TEh PoWEA Of TeH CeLL!!!" and unlock 120 fps and better graphics that make 360 look like N64?

Please school his confused Hermit.

HermitCommando

First of all the blu-ray is a BIG advantage, because it allows for more storage capacity which allows for more advanced graphics, and complex operations on the system. Second of all the cell is powerful, it has 234 mill transistors on its single die. For comparison sake, most cpus dont even break the 200 million mark. Hence more complex operatiosn available on the system, so there is no denying the ps3s sheer power. The reason developers are having a difficult time with the technology is because its new, and theyve have had relatively limited access to it, over time developers will be able to make the transistion with ease. Even EA's Peter Moore has come out and said that they are just now starting to work out the technology, and shouldnt be too far down the line when developers will be able to tap the ps3s true power.

PS3 games already look better than 360. That doesn't make 360 a bad console, but it's the truth. And multiplats may play better on the 360 now but that doesn't mean it is more capable than the ps3. MGS2 on xbox anyone?RedMarzBoy

are you being sarcastic about the graphics statement because if not you are very misinformed.

[QUOTE="HermitCommando"]

I'm looking at PS3's hardware and I'm really not sure it's going to "Blow 360 away in a year."

First of all, people areassuming 360 will remain static and will never see advances in graphical quality.PS3 will then see major leaps in graphical quality,even though it has really gimped ram and a really poor gpu.This is the general consensus of Cows, and non-Cows, around this website. In a years time, PS3 multiplats will look better, exclusives will make 360 look like PS2, BluRay will allow for bigger-better games.

What hidden power does the PS3 have up it's sleeve that Developers are going to magically discover and blow 360 away? The Cell? :roll: RSX? :lol: The onlyHardware advantage PS3 has is BluRay, which allows PS3 to watch BluRay movies. That's it. The storage capacity is meaningless since all you'd have to do is swap a DVD9 every so often. That's why I bought mine. To watch 300 in high-def.

Look at the difference we saw with Xbox and PS2. Coming out one year after PS2, Xbox destroyed PS2 graphically by leaps and bounds. Complete massacre as far as graphics were concerned. You saw better quality with Xbox multiplats.

PS3 is out one year after 360... and most multiplats have framerate issues, look worse, run poorly... and you're telling me in a year, developers "WilL DiSCoVER TEh PoWEA Of TeH CeLL!!!" and unlock 120 fps and better graphics that make 360 look like N64?

Please school his confused Hermit.

Da_bomb101

First of all the blu-ray is a BIG advantage, because it allows for more storage capacity which allows for more advanced graphics, and complex operations on the system. Second of all the cell is powerful :roll: , it has 234 mill transistors on its single die. For comparison sake, most cpus dont even break the 200 million mark. Hence more complex operatiosn available on the system, so there is no denying the ps3s sheer power. The reason developers are having a difficult time with the technology is because its new, and theyve have had relatively limited access to it, over time developers will be able to make the transistion with ease. Even EA's Peter Moore has come out and said that they are just now starting to work out the technology, and shouldnt be too far down the line when developers will be able to tap the ps3s true power.

Storage does NOT enhance graphics and operations!!! the system does. Go home

I'm looking at PS3's hardware and I'm really not sure it's going to "Blow 360 away in a year."

First of all, people areassuming 360 will remain static and will never see advances in graphical quality.PS3 will then see major leaps in graphical quality,even though it has really gimped ram and a really poor gpu.This is the general consensus of Cows, and non-Cows, around this website. In a years time, PS3 multiplats will look better, exclusives will make 360 look like PS2, BluRay will allow for bigger-better games.

What hidden power does the PS3 have up it's sleeve that Developers are going to magically discover and blow 360 away? The Cell? :roll: RSX? :lol: The onlyHardware advantage PS3 has is BluRay, which allows PS3 to watch BluRay movies. That's it. The storage capacity is meaningless since all you'd have to do is swap a DVD9 every so often. That's why I bought mine. To watch 300 in high-def.

Look at the difference we saw with Xbox and PS2. Coming out one year after PS2, Xbox destroyed PS2 graphically by leaps and bounds. Complete massacre as far as graphics were concerned. You saw better quality with Xbox multiplats.

PS3 is out one year after 360... and most multiplats have framerate issues, look worse, run poorly... and you're telling me in a year, developers "WilL DiSCoVER TEh PoWEA Of TeH CeLL!!!" and unlock 120 fps and better graphics that make 360 look like N64?

Please school his confused Hermit.

HermitCommando

PS3 Ram is bottleneck by the OS usage, But with Firmware updates Sony is

Looking to reduce the OS ram usage, so it can use it for game resources instead.

Cell can help perform Some of the GPU Processes of the GPU to take the load off.

Other than that 360 games will still look better becuause it has better Ram usage and an over Better More Advance GPU.

Uncharted and MGS4 disagree. And Killzone 2 says "high!". ;)leviathan91

Killzone looks o.k. MGS4 and unchartered both look great but they don't look better than every game on 360. Both systems are close to equal with each having some very slight advantages (why some games look and run better on the 360).

Uncharted and MGS4 disagree. And Killzone 2 says "high!". ;)leviathan91

well, i'm glad that we can all verify "high" actually means to this poster "hello", "greetings" or "hi" (I'm giving you ((poster)) being a 15 year old at best...), but lets be honest for one minute of our lives. Killzone is going to say nothing but that which Heavenly Sword has said before it many times over for months before Killzone actually makes its release. In that I'm saying, "Hello! I'm another game with a lot of asthetic qualities but no substance, look at me!" In that, Killzone will be the same. Killzone is bull. Ps3 is becoming bull in general. The graphics debate is ridculous. Who cares? PS3 is obviously inferior to Xbox 360 at this point. Wasn't it supposedly supposed to blow 360 away from the get-go.....? Well, ummmm, its not....FYI: Only respond to me if you are in middle or high school so I can personally laugh at your ignorant ridiculous answers.

I'm looking at PS3's hardware and I'm really not sure it's going to "Blow 360 away in a year."

First of all, people areassuming 360 will remain static and will never see advances in graphical quality.PS3 will then see major leaps in graphical quality,even though it has really gimped ram and a really poor gpu.This is the general consensus of Cows, and non-Cows, around this website. In a years time, PS3 multiplats will look better, exclusives will make 360 look like PS2, BluRay will allow for bigger-better games.

What hidden power does the PS3 have up it's sleeve that Developers are going to magically discover and blow 360 away? The Cell? :roll: RSX? :lol: The onlyHardware advantage PS3 has is BluRay, which allows PS3 to watch BluRay movies. That's it. The storage capacity is meaningless since all you'd have to do is swap a DVD9 every so often. That's why I bought mine. To watch 300 in high-def.

Look at the difference we saw with Xbox and PS2. Coming out one year after PS2, Xbox destroyed PS2 graphically by leaps and bounds. Complete massacre as far as graphics were concerned. You saw better quality with Xbox multiplats.

PS3 is out one year after 360... and most multiplats have framerate issues, look worse, run poorly... and you're telling me in a year, developers "WilL DiSCoVER TEh PoWEA Of TeH CeLL!!!" and unlock 120 fps and better graphics that make 360 look like N64?

Please school his confused Hermit.

HermitCommando

Well, first off the PS3's gpu is far from gimp. Sure the 360 has a better gpu, but it is not head and shoulders better. Now on the flip side--the PS3's cpu is a beast, wheras the 360's is strong but cannot calculate the amount of complex operations that the PS3 can handle. In this department, the PS3 blows everything out of the water.

I am not going to discuss blu-ray, as that is for another discussion.

On to why people think the power will come. Look at the architechtures, the 360 is very similar to PC and thus easy to work on. Many games that have recently come out have been touted at using somewhere around 60-75% of the total power the 360 has. Now look at the PS3--the architechture is very different--thus making the transition over to coding for this system harder and thus takes more time to harness the power.

So what does this mean for the PS3--look at Lair (I know that game scored low because everyone hates the controls)--from a technical show piece it is absolutely stunning. Factor 5 has stated that they have tapped into about 30-40% of the PS3's total power. Look at Uncharted (due out this holiday)--it looks mind blowingly amazing and the devs said when they are finished they have estimated that they have tapped into 40-50% of the total power.

What does this all mean?

360--easier to dev for, games look better early on, power tapped quicker.

PS3--harder to dev for, games look comparable to 360 or better on 360 early on, right now they look the same or slightly better on PS3 with less of the power tapped, power tapped latter, once poweris tapped on both systems--games will always look better on PS3 from there on out as it offers more horsepower under the hood.

In the long run, arewe ever going to see the PS3 blow the 360 out of the water?Doubtful. It will look better, but I would not think that it is going to make the 360 look last gen. Oh, and did the xbox blow the PS2 out of the water? Not really, youkind of overexaggerated that.Sure the xbox looked better, but it was not that much more. I would expect the PS3 to look better than the 360 anda little more so than the xbox did when compared to the PS2.

Side note: Don't just think about graphics when we are talking about things being better on PS3. They canuse the power tobeef up the physics, more guys on the screen, longer draw distances, better the AI,better bloom lighting, better HDR, etc. Many things gointo making games "look" better. It is not always just the graphics. Actually that has a lot to do with why GeoW looks so great. They never had many guys on screen at once, the draw distance was very small, and there was never a wholeheck of a lotgoing on screen at once...due to this--they could really beef up the visuals, as they did not have to use up processing power in long draw distances, crazy physics, many guys on screen, etc.

[QUOTE="RedMarzBoy"]PS3 games already look better than 360. That doesn't make 360 a bad console, but it's the truth. And multiplats may play better on the 360 now but that doesn't mean it is more capable than the ps3. MGS2 on xbox anyone?EG101

are you being sarcastic about the graphics statement because if not you are very misinformed.

Are you kidding me RedMarz? Seriously don't use games that haven't come out yet to back up the PS3s graphics capabilities. I swear all frickin Ps3 people do this... have you played the game? no! That's like me saying GOW2 looks way better than Resistance: Fall of man. Once your beloved MGS4 comes out and you play it... brag about the graphics. But as of now, no game for the PS3 looks better than GOW, Bioshock, or Forza...

Are you kidding me RedMarz? Seriously don't use games that haven't come out yet to back up the PS3s graphics capabilities. I swear all frickin Ps3 people do this... have you played the game? no! That's like me saying GOW2 looks way better than Resistance: Fall of man. Once your beloved MGS4 comes out and you play it... brag about the graphics. But as of now, no game for the PS3 looks better than GOW, Bioshock, or Forza...

tccavey2

There's no footage of GoW2 to begin with. And most of the games I listed are coming out this year or early next year. do you expect them to take a graphical downgrade right before they're released or something? All of them are from developers with a track record. 

P.S. The title is :I need to understand why PS3's graphics will exceed 360's in a years time.

Oh and another thing... Ratchet looks exactly like the PS2 versions from what I have seen, and Warhawk is not that impressive graphically though it is a pretty sick game...tccavey2

The ps3 has better hardware. but it has no good games out yet.

the 360does not have good hardware (breaks a LOT!!!). but it has better games. (halo 3 will pwn ps3's lineup)

the wii has a nifty controler. but was a waste of my money.

[QUOTE="HermitCommando"]

I'm looking at PS3's hardware and I'm really not sure it's going to "Blow 360 away in a year."

First of all, people areassuming 360 will remain static and will never see advances in graphical quality.PS3 will then see major leaps in graphical quality,even though it has really gimped ram and a really poor gpu.This is the general consensus of Cows, and non-Cows, around this website. In a years time, PS3 multiplats will look better, exclusives will make 360 look like PS2, BluRay will allow for bigger-better games.

What hidden power does the PS3 have up it's sleeve that Developers are going to magically discover and blow 360 away? The Cell? :roll: RSX? :lol: The onlyHardware advantage PS3 has is BluRay, which allows PS3 to watch BluRay movies. That's it. The storage capacity is meaningless since all you'd have to do is swap a DVD9 every so often. That's why I bought mine. To watch 300 in high-def.

Look at the difference we saw with Xbox and PS2. Coming out one year after PS2, Xbox destroyed PS2 graphically by leaps and bounds. Complete massacre as far as graphics were concerned. You saw better quality with Xbox multiplats.

PS3 is out one year after 360... and most multiplats have framerate issues, look worse, run poorly... and you're telling me in a year, developers "WilL DiSCoVER TEh PoWEA Of TeH CeLL!!!" and unlock 120 fps and better graphics that make 360 look like N64?

Please school his confused Hermit.

Da_bomb101

First of all the blu-ray is a BIG advantage, because it allows for more storage capacity which allows for more advanced graphics, and complex operations on the system. Second of all the cell is powerful, it has 234 mill transistors on its single die. For comparison sake, most cpus dont even break the 200 million mark. Hence more complex operatiosn available on the system, so there is no denying the ps3s sheer power. The reason developers are having a difficult time with the technology is because its new, and theyve have had relatively limited access to it, over time developers will be able to make the transistion with ease. Even EA's Peter Moore has come out and said that they are just now starting to work out the technology, and shouldnt be too far down the line when developers will be able to tap the ps3s true power.

LOL. I hate sony for people who post drivel like this. People who are so ignorant that they spew garbage about a subject they know nothing about.

Blu-ray is a disk drive. Just like dvd drives and cdrom drives. The only thing that allows more "advanced graphics" are new graphics processing units and new game engines.

The PS3 is never going to look better then the 360. Both will be on par. If you want the next leap in graphic get a PC.

Don't use killzone 2 as graphical ownage, the only thing the game has going for it is particle effects like smoking/lightning/etc to add the effect of war an living world to the game and its animations which are probably the best I've seen to date, everything else in that game looks like ****. The textures even on the character models are completely washed out, they look terrible, even the terrain textures look bad, this is why I'm not hyping killzone 2. It may look like its good but if you take closer looks at the videos and the pictures its actually pretty bad.

MGS4 again has bad terrain textures, whilst it has very nice character models and gun models its terrain textures are terrible.

And don't even use uncharted as ownage cause your opening up a debate again about how plastic the models look and the comparison between it and perfect dark zero.

Will the ps3 see graphical improvements? More then likely.

Will the ps3 see performance improvements? Yes.

Will the ps3 see any of the above in the next year? no, it'll take at least 5-6years for them to get the technology down pact before you see what the ps3 can actually achieve in practical applications.

The ps3 and the xbox 360 will both see improved aspects over the years, both will strive for bigger and better but as for blu-ray making an impact on the difference? Not that likely, that would mean more development costs which are already large enough for the ps3 and developers will rarely be able to afford taking advantage of the size for the simple fact it just costs too much. Unfortunately whilst a consoles costs can come down, development costs don't and that will play the biggest factor in the difference between the two consoles.

(Now whilst those games, KZ2, MGS4 and Uncharted may probably be good games (more so MGS4) I stand behind my arguement that the textures look like ****).

PS3 games already look better than 360. That doesn't make 360 a bad console, but it's the truth. And multiplats may play better on the 360 now but that doesn't mean it is more capable than the ps3. MGS2 on xbox anyone?RedMarzBoy

You can say oblivion looks better on ps3But you really think xbox360 cant run the oblivion ps3 can? Oblivion just looks better because the devs fixed and made a improved copy of it for the ps3 which could have been sold on xbox360 but whats the point? The difference is so small and not even noticeable.

Also tell me what ps3 game looks better then gears of war excluding multi plats? Also don't throw lair at me...that game is garbage.

[QUOTE="tccavey2"]

Are you kidding me RedMarz? Seriously don't use games that haven't come out yet to back up the PS3s graphics capabilities. I swear all frickin Ps3 people do this... have you played the game? no! That's like me saying GOW2 looks way better than Resistance: Fall of man. Once your beloved MGS4 comes out and you play it... brag about the graphics. But as of now, no game for the PS3 looks better than GOW, Bioshock, or Forza...

RedMarzBoy

There's no footage of GoW2 to begin with. And most of the games I listed are coming out this year or early next year. do you expect them to take a graphical downgrade right before they're released or something? All of them are from developers with a track record.

P.S. The title is:I need to understand why PS3's graphics will exceed 360's in a years time.

No, but I'm saying your comparing games that haven't been released yet to older games on the 360. You have no idea what these games are gonna look like as a whole! And I know no footage of GOW 2 has been shown... just imitating your argument with a little exaggeration. I understand what the thread is but your support for the PS3 is incredibly Bias, and I strongly believe the PS3s graphics will probably never surpass the 360s... so there, you got my opinion (as if you already didn't know lol)

just remember that no one knows for sure how much the ps3 is capable of. I have read compelling args either way from people much more qualified than me to a degreeI cant even estimate. It is possible also that the 360 is much closer to its peak performance than the ps3 is, because its a year older and devs are saying that it is a much easier architecture to understand.

Key words: "it is possible..."

--also a good point that there are some great looking ps3 games. HS and Lair for example, but most importantly perhaps is GT5. Does the 360 have an answer to GT5?

[QUOTE="RedMarzBoy"]PS3 games already look better than 360. That doesn't make 360 a bad console, but it's the truth. And multiplats may play better on the 360 now but that doesn't mean it is more capable than the ps3. MGS2 on xbox anyone?XileLord

You can say oblivion looks better on ps3But you really think xbox360 cant run the oblivion ps3 can? Oblivion just looks better because the devs fixed and made a improved copy of it for the ps3 which could have been sold on xbox360 but whats the point? The difference is so small and not even noticeable.

Also tell me what ps3 game looks better then gears of war excluding multi plats? Also don't throw lair at me...that game is garbage.

lol itsthis post was made in exactly the right place let me just say that the ps3 may seem not very good but i guarantee you that if u made a computer of the same type you could probably play just as good games. people say that blu-ray "isnt that good" having uncompressed data is a good thing it means you get less problems with a game. i think x360 will waste its potential relatively quickly and that ps3 will continue to get better for years to come.

Ahem

Teh cell will make all games totally ownz as soon as they find it in teh pS3!!!!!!11!

Teh Red Ring of DEATHHH!!!!111

Lair is da king it dont even matter if it got a bad score, i dont need gamespot to tell me what to play!

Once Nintendo harnesseseses teh P0Werrr of da Wii the graphiks will be da best!

Crysis Ownzzz

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Mateo14

:lol:

Don't use killzone 2 as graphical ownage, the only thing the game has going for it is particle effects like smoking/lightning/etc to add the effect of war an living world to the game and its animations which are probably the best I've seen to date, everything else in that game looks like ****. The textures even on the character models are completely washed out, they look terrible, even the terrain textures look bad, this is why I'm not hyping killzone 2. It may look like its good but if you take closer looks at the videos and the pictures its actually pretty bad.

MGS4 again has bad terrain textures, whilst it has very nice character models and gun models its terrain textures are terrible.

And don't even use uncharted as ownage cause your opening up a debate again about how plastic the models look and the comparison between it and perfect dark zero.

Will the ps3 see graphical improvements? More then likely.

Will the ps3 see performance improvements? Yes.

Will the ps3 see any of the above in the next year? no, it'll take at least 5-6years for them to get the technology down pact before you see what the ps3 can actually achieve in practical applications.

The ps3 and the xbox 360 will both see improved aspects over the years, both will strive for bigger and better but as for blu-ray making an impact on the difference? Not that likely, that would mean more development costs which are already large enough for the ps3 and developers will rarely be able to afford taking advantage of the size for the simple fact it just costs too much. Unfortunately whilst a consoles costs can come down, development costs don't and that will play the biggest factor in the difference between the two consoles.

(Now whilst those games, KZ2, MGS4 and Uncharted may probably be good games (more so MGS4) I stand behind my arguement that the textures look like ****).

Zenkuso

lol you do know that kz2 hasnt even gone alpha and that mgs4 isnt near completion. just because a game looks bad now doent mean itll look bad when it comes out. and as for the blu ray i think that game makers will take advantage even if it means more money i mean lok at what happened with dvd disks and cd's dvds had (comparatively) much more space and none of that has gone to waste. it wont take 5-6years did it take that long for xbox and ps2?? no! so it definately wont take long for this console battle.

[QUOTE="RedMarzBoy"]

[QUOTE="tccavey2"]

Are you kidding me RedMarz? Seriously don't use games that haven't come out yet to back up the PS3s graphics capabilities. I swear all frickin Ps3 people do this... have you played the game? no! That's like me saying GOW2 looks way better than Resistance: Fall of man. Once your beloved MGS4 comes out and you play it... brag about the graphics. But as of now, no game for the PS3 looks better than GOW, Bioshock, or Forza...

tccavey2

There's no footage of GoW2 to begin with. And most of the games I listed are coming out this year or early next year. do you expect them to take a graphical downgrade right before they're released or something? All of them are from developers with a track record.

P.S. The title is:I need to understand why PS3's graphics will exceed 360's in a years time.

No, but I'm saying your comparing games that haven't been released yet to older games on the 360. You have no idea what these games are gonna look like as a whole! And I know no footage of GOW 2 has been shown... just imitating your argument with a little exaggeration. I understand what the thread is but your support for the PS3 is incredibly Bias, and I strongly believe the PS3s graphics will probably never surpass the 360s... so there, you got my opinion (as if you already didn't know lol)

lol i just came to the realisation that this thread has become a place for people with x360's to assure themselves that the really shoudn't have bought it and saying that ps3 isnt going to bee good for the prime reason that in a year or 2 it will have reached its potential and ps3 will blaze past easily.pinkyfull

and if you weren't 15 I would maybe consider your opinion

No, but I'm saying your comparing games that haven't been released yet to older games on the 360. You have no idea what these games are gonna look like as a whole! And I know no footage of GOW 2 has been shown... just imitating your argument with a little exaggeration. I understand what the thread is but your support for the PS3 is incredibly Bias, and I strongly believe the PS3s graphics will probably never surpass the 360s... so there, you got my opinion (as if you already didn't know lol)

I disagree, it's gonna take a while for the PS3's potential to be harnessed...MGS does not look better than Mass Effect by the way.. and Killzone looks terrible... Halo 3 is also gonna surprise people

I'm looking at PS3's hardware and I'm really not sure it's going to "Blow 360 away in a year."

First of all, people areassuming 360 will remain static and will never see advances in graphical quality.PS3 will then see major leaps in graphical quality,even though it has really gimped ram and a really poor gpu.This is the general consensus of Cows, and non-Cows, around this website. In a years time, PS3 multiplats will look better, exclusives will make 360 look like PS2, BluRay will allow for bigger-better games.

What hidden power does the PS3 have up it's sleeve that Developers are going to magically discover and blow 360 away? The Cell? :roll: RSX? :lol: The onlyHardware advantage PS3 has is BluRay, which allows PS3 to watch BluRay movies. That's it. The storage capacity is meaningless since all you'd have to do is swap a DVD9 every so often. That's why I bought mine. To watch 300 in high-def.

Look at the difference we saw with Xbox and PS2. Coming out one year after PS2, Xbox destroyed PS2 graphically by leaps and bounds. Complete massacre as far as graphics were concerned. You saw better quality with Xbox multiplats.

PS3 is out one year after 360... and most multiplats have framerate issues, look worse, run poorly... and you're telling me in a year, developers "WilL DiSCoVER TEh PoWEA Of TeH CeLL!!!" and unlock 120 fps and better graphics that make 360 look like N64?

Please school his confused Hermit.

HermitCommando

you're letting yourself get carried away when you talk down about the PS3's RAM and GPU. it's a very small difference between the two systems. the fact that they are so close to each other in power and both sides are still uncertain as to who will have the better visuals by the end of the gen makes this console war so damn intersesting.

no one really knows either way. the cell is integral to it's possible surpassion of the 360 if at all. it's a complicated machine, no doubt, but it's no weak system. it takes commitment to make polished PS3 games.

have you actually researched just what the cell is? it's pretty interesting.

from a hardware perspective, the PS3 has the standard HDD, so it can use virtual memory, something the 360 cannot do (unless MS decides to standardize the HDD for future games)

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tccavey2

No, but I'm saying your comparing games that haven't been released yet to older games on the 360. You have no idea what these games are gonna look like as a whole! And I know no footage of GOW 2 has been shown... just imitating your argument with a little exaggeration. I understand what the thread is but your support for the PS3 is incredibly Bias, and I strongly believe the PS3s graphics will probably never surpass the 360s... so there, you got my opinion (as if you already didn't know lol)

I disagree, it's gonna take a while for the PS3's potential to be harnessed...MGS does not look better than Mass Effect by the way.. and Killzone looks terrible... Halo 3 is also gonna surprise people

No the cheaper consoles have always won... the point here is that the 360 library is graphically better and it's a lot cheaper lol

you know what's funny? instead of debating which console is more powerful, we should debate on which console is weaker, because histrically, the weaker consoles have always 'won' in the end. Mordred19

Wait for TGS then judge the PS3.

Everybody has to admit that PS3 is more powerful than 360 just like when Xbox was more powerful than PS2, lemmings can't do that but me (a cow) can do it.

I've asked my friends yesterday, what next-gen games did you play and saw great graphics until now?

they have two answers, GeOW and The Darkness.

We will see how superior graphics PS3 has in less than a week.