I reall think the Wii is going to win...

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#1 Magical_Donuts
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I have a wii by the way. But the wii has the worst library games and everything... But it will still end up winning .... Everytime i go into a game store. There is always like 3 people looking to buy the wii and there still sold oud... Im going to bet they will win... what do you think?
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I have a wii by the way. But the wii has the worst library games and everything... But it will still end up winning .... Everytime i go into a game store. There is always like 3 people looking to by the wii and there still sold old... Im going to bet they will win... what do you think?Magical_Donuts

Win what? Sales? BFD! What could is pushing lots of units if you destroy your reputation with the gamers who made you what you are?

Nintendo has sold their soul.

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#3 wannweed
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i think the wii will win in sales and also in games win its all said and done because alot of developers will swicth and start supporting the wii more
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#4 TNT_Slug
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Yes, Nintendo is basically locked for the win at the current rate of sales. And their library will improve in the future.

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i think the wii will win in sales and also in games win its all said and done because alot of developers will swicth and start supporting the wii morewannweed

With more Excercising games? Seriously most of the "real" 3rd party games are on PS3/360. Wii has left overs. Wii is going to win in terms of games. Not hardcore games though. With inferior graphics and online, 3rd parties will opt to creating games for fat people and woman.

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[QUOTE="wannweed"]i think the wii will win in sales and also in games win its all said and done because alot of developers will swicth and start supporting the wii moreRiviera_Phantom

With more Excercising games? Seriously most of the "real" 3rd party games are on PS3/360. Wii has left overs. Wii is going to win in terms of games. Not hardcore games though. With inferior graphics and online, 3rd parties will opt to creating games for fat people and woman.

what's a "real" third party game and if a consle wins in sales as long as i could remember it also wins in great games so why would it change now
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The Wii will not win the War, even thought it will dominate sales (of systems) for the next year or so, but as Ninty said themselves, they have amazing sales becasue they expanded the markert, thus not taking away any market share from Sony or Microsoft, thus not beating them and one of them will most likely sale the majority of games. That idea is illustartated by the amount of people (like me) who own a Wii plus another next gen system, but given time are almost definatly going to buy more games for the other system even if they purchase every must-have* game on the Wii, but at the same time those same dual-system owners will almost definatly buy more games on the Wii than the huge amount of elderly people, soccer moms, and other ULTRA-casual gamers**, however since I think Ninty is the only people making money per sale of the actual system, they will obviously rake it in even if they dont take back their throne, sorry Fortune Magazine.

*depending on what what qualifies as "must-have", but I mean SMG, SSBB, and MPC type titles, not strikers

**My statements about ULTRA-casual gamers is based largely on the excitement I have hear from, as well as the fact that the line I waited in to get my Wii at 5 in the morning was dominated by those type "gamers" if you can call them that, who told me they had no plans of playing anything but Wii Sports... as well as the plethora of statistics on the topic.

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#8 Pinb0t
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The Wii is just a fad that will die out in a few months due to the lack of quality in the system and in the games. Buying a Wii was the worst thing I have ever done. I spend all my time on my 360 and very rarely play the Wii.

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#9 Riviera_Phantom
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[QUOTE="Riviera_Phantom"]

[QUOTE="wannweed"]i think the wii will win in sales and also in games win its all said and done because alot of developers will swicth and start supporting the wii morewannweed

With more Excercising games? Seriously most of the "real" 3rd party games are on PS3/360. Wii has left overs. Wii is going to win in terms of games. Not hardcore games though. With inferior graphics and online, 3rd parties will opt to creating games for fat people and woman.

what's a "real" third party game and if a consle wins in sales as long as i could remember it also wins in great

games so why would it change now

Because the Market has differenciated. IT's not Wii/360/PS3. It's Wii/360PS3.

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#10 ginglejangle
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I think sales dont matter and i rather have games then sales.
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#11 venomgxt
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of course the Wii is going to win.

Money money yeah yeah

Money money yeah yeah

Money money yeah yeah

Money money yeah yeah

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#12 wavebrid
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worst library games and everything"

360 has the best games at moment. ps3 is just a shadow of 360...

and thats a matter of opiion who has the worst. and what you mean by everything?

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#13 wavebrid
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I think sales dont matter and i rather have games then sales.ginglejangle

sale of console= more games =more sold

sales are inporatant like it or not.

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#14 flazzle
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The Wii is just a fad that will die out in a few months due to the lack of quality in the system and in the games. Buying a Wii was the worst thing I have ever done. I spend all my time on my 360 and very rarely play the Wii.

Pinb0t

Pinb0t telling it like it is! How long did yo own your Wii until you realized this?

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#15 wavebrid
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[QUOTE="wannweed"][QUOTE="Riviera_Phantom"]

[QUOTE="wannweed"]i think the wii will win in sales and also in games win its all said and done because alot of developers will swicth and start supporting the wii moreRiviera_Phantom

With more Excercising games? Seriously most of the "real" 3rd party games are on PS3/360. Wii has left overs. Wii is going to win in terms of games. Not hardcore games though. With inferior graphics and online, 3rd parties will opt to creating games for fat people and woman.

what's a "real" third party game and if a consle wins in sales as long as i could remember it also wins in great

games so why would it change now

Because the Market has differenciated. IT's not Wii/360/PS3. It's Wii/360PS3.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING A REAL 3RD PARTY GAME

there GAMES deinal is the first sign

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#16 wavebrid
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[QUOTE="Pinb0t"]

The Wii is just a fad that will die out in a few months due to the lack of quality in the system and in the games. Buying a Wii was the worst thing I have ever done. I spend all my time on my 360 and very rarely play the Wii.

flazzle

Pinb0t telling it like it is! How long did yo own your Wii until you realized this?

so what about the 7 + plus it been out for? where the fad... i dont see it.... sorry

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I have a wii by the way. But the wii has the worst library games and everything... But it will still end up winning .... Everytime i go into a game store. There is always like 3 people looking to buy the wii and there still sold oud... Im going to bet they will win... what do you think?Magical_Donuts
Yes, probably. If cows deny this, they just forfeited the PS2's win last gen.
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Wii is going to win in sales because its cheep, Wii will loose in every other category well mabye not creativity. But seriously it doesnt deserve to win in anything and neither does Nintendo after what they have turned into. I swear if Phantom Hourglass is either easy or feels gimmicky, that will be my last straw with nin. Im not a Wii/ Nintendo hater, actually I like Nintendo, but they are slowly abandoning real gamers
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#19 Zhengi
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The Wii is just a fad that will die out in a few months due to the lack of quality in the system and in the games. Buying a Wii was the worst thing I have ever done. I spend all my time on my 360 and very rarely play the Wii.

Pinb0t

How long have we been hearing this already? How much more is a few months? People have been saying this again and again every single month and it hasn't happened yet. So how many is a few months? 9 months? 10 months? 11 months? Maybe 12 months?

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#20 Zhengi
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Wii is going to win in sales because its cheep, Wii will loose in every other category well mabye not creativity. But seriously it doesnt deserve to win in anything and neither does Nintendo after what they have turned into. I swear if Phantom Hourglass is either easy or feels gimmicky, that will be my last straw with nin. Im not a Wii/ Nintendo hater, actually I like Nintendo, but they are slowly abandoning real gamersbri360

How are they abandoning real gamers? Was MP3, SSBB, or SMG canceled? Did Fire Emblem, BWII, Disaster, Mario Kart, and a slew of other games canceled? Did they decide to stop making anymore Zeldas, Pikmins, Animal Crossing, etc. games? How exactly are they abandoning real gamers?

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#21 wiiwillstand
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Alright, I just want to say that you can't go off calling the Nintendo Wii a fad. Didn't anybody watch the Nintendo Press Conference? The Wii has been sold out for 33 Weeks! The numbers are in their favor! Go watch the Press Conference, and then you'll know that it isn't a fad.

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Wii is going to win in sales because its cheep, Wii will loose in every other category well mabye not creativity. But seriously it doesnt deserve to win in anything and neither does Nintendo after what they have turned into. I swear if Phantom Hourglass is either easy or feels gimmicky, that will be my last straw with nin. Im not a Wii/ Nintendo hater, actually I like Nintendo, but they are slowly abandoning real gamersbri360
How does something win if it doesn't deserve it? Because they cheated? Thats the only way. And the Wii is not cheating. The price is not cheating either, they chose to make a cheaper system at the drawback of less power, and it is working. Nintendo took a big risk in this. So if I ever play cards with you, and I win, will you say I didn't deserve it?
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#23 wavebrid
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Alright, I just want to say that you can't go off calling the Nintendo Wii a fad. Didn't anybody watch the Nintendo Press Conference? The Wii has been sold out for 33 Weeks! The numbers are in their favor! Go watch the Press Conference, and then you'll know that it isn't a fad.

wiiwillstand

Sorry bud, but logic dosent flow in system wars.

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I have a wii by the way. But the wii has the worst library games and everything... But it will still end up winning .... Everytime i go into a game store. There is always like 3 people looking to buy the wii and there still sold oud... Im going to bet they will win... what do you think?Magical_Donuts

I personally think they have a good shot at selling more consoles than the competition, but I don't think they're software sales are going to be as good as the PS3's and 360's.

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[QUOTE="bri360"]Wii is going to win in sales because its cheep, Wii will loose in every other category well mabye not creativity. But seriously it doesnt deserve to win in anything and neither does Nintendo after what they have turned into. I swear if Phantom Hourglass is either easy or feels gimmicky, that will be my last straw with nin. Im not a Wii/ Nintendo hater, actually I like Nintendo, but they are slowly abandoning real gamersZhengi

How are they abandoning real gamers? Was MP3, SSBB, or SMG canceled? Did Fire Emblem, BWII, Disaster, Mario Kart, and a slew of other games canceled? Did they decide to stop making anymore Zeldas, Pikmins, Animal Crossing, etc. games? How exactly are they abandoning real gamers?

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[QUOTE="bri360"]Wii is going to win in sales because its cheep, Wii will loose in every other category well mabye not creativity. But seriously it doesnt deserve to win in anything and neither does Nintendo after what they have turned into. I swear if Phantom Hourglass is either easy or feels gimmicky, that will be my last straw with nin. Im not a Wii/ Nintendo hater, actually I like Nintendo, but they are slowly abandoning real gamersZhengi

How are they abandoning real gamers? Was MP3, SSBB, or SMG canceled? Did Fire Emblem, BWII, Disaster, Mario Kart, and a slew of other games canceled? Did they decide to stop making anymore Zeldas, Pikmins, Animal Crossing, etc. games? How exactly are they abandoning real gamers?

Did you not see those games? They are getting easier and gimmicky. THE ZAPPER WOW!!!......... Most look way to easy and one of my most anticipated games Mario Galaxy looks cheep, easy, and it doesn't have the Mario feel anymore. Also all the games are getting way to easy, ive yet to play a challenging game on the Wii for ex: TP was by far the easiest and most taked on felt Zelda ive ever played. Not to mention their biggest flop announcement WII FIT!.... Have fun exercising on your Wii.... Ill you know go outside and get a life...

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[QUOTE="wannweed"]i think the wii will win in sales and also in games win its all said and done because alot of developers will swicth and start supporting the wii moreRiviera_Phantom

With more Excercising games? Seriously most of the "real" 3rd party games are on PS3/360. Wii has left overs. Wii is going to win in terms of games. Not hardcore games though. With inferior graphics and online, 3rd parties will opt to creating games for fat people and woman.

Just like the DS, amirite? I mean AMIRITE? *knudges with elbow*

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[QUOTE="bri360"]Wii is going to win in sales because its cheep, Wii will loose in every other category well mabye not creativity. But seriously it doesnt deserve to win in anything and neither does Nintendo after what they have turned into. I swear if Phantom Hourglass is either easy or feels gimmicky, that will be my last straw with nin. Im not a Wii/ Nintendo hater, actually I like Nintendo, but they are slowly abandoning real gamersGrodus5
How does something win if it doesn't deserve it? Because they cheated? Thats the only way. And the Wii is not cheating. The price is not cheating either, they chose to make a cheaper system at the drawback of less power, and it is working. Nintendo took a big risk in this. So if I ever play cards with you, and I win, will you say I didn't deserve it?

Just because you win doesn't mean you deserved to win, and that doesn't mean you cheated, face it, im as big a Nintendo fan as they next guy but they are going downhill fast. The games are getting easy and gimmicky for all the "casuals" who seem to be Nintendo's new main focus. No longer do they make games for gamer, no, now they make games for mom dad and the whole family... Wow that sounds fun...:roll: I don't want to see Nintendo go this way but its happening and I will jump off before this ship sinks. Just look at how Sega turned out with Sonic and thier consols. Nintendo isnt failing but its switching its market to a new audience. Non- gamers.

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Did you not see those games? They are getting easier and gimmicky. THE ZAPPER WOW!!!......... Most look way to easy and one of my most anticipated games Mario Galaxy looks cheep, easy, and it doesn't have the Mario feel anymore. Also all the games are getting way to easy, ive yet to play a challenging game on the Wii for ex: TP was by far the easiest and most taked on felt Zelda ive ever played.bri360
Yeah, it's almost like you are getting older, more experienced and better at games or something. What, you mean a new Mario game isn't as challenging as the one you played when you were eight years old? There's a shocker.
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[QUOTE="Zhengi"]

[QUOTE="bri360"]Wii is going to win in sales because its cheep, Wii will loose in every other category well mabye not creativity. But seriously it doesnt deserve to win in anything and neither does Nintendo after what they have turned into. I swear if Phantom Hourglass is either easy or feels gimmicky, that will be my last straw with nin. Im not a Wii/ Nintendo hater, actually I like Nintendo, but they are slowly abandoning real gamersbri360

How are they abandoning real gamers? Was MP3, SSBB, or SMG canceled? Did Fire Emblem, BWII, Disaster, Mario Kart, and a slew of other games canceled? Did they decide to stop making anymore Zeldas, Pikmins, Animal Crossing, etc. games? How exactly are they abandoning real gamers?

Did you not see those games? They are getting easier and gimmicky. THE ZAPPER WOW!!!......... Most look way to easy and one of my most anticipated games Mario Galaxy looks cheep, easy, and it doesn't have the Mario feel anymore. Also all the games are getting way to easy, ive yet to play a challenging game on the Wii for ex: TP was by far the easiest and most taked on felt Zelda ive ever played. Not to mention their biggest flop announcement WII FIT!.... Have fun exercising on your Wii.... Ill you know go outside and get a life...

key word LOOKS but does it play cheap we dont know yet and how do you know that all of the games he listed are going to be easy did you played them i dont think so but i will agree that tp had some easy to beat enimies
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They're all competing in the VIDEO GAMES industry, therefore the Wii, 360 and PS3 are in the same battle for market share There is no separation between CASUAL and HARDCORE when it comes to console sales IMO, the only thing that universally defines a HARDCORE player is FREQUENCY not necessarily skill or a will to play more challenging games or a will to play more mature themed games
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#33 TSCombo
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I'll go a step further and say I KNOW the Wii is going to win this gen. It was clear since last year's E3.
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[QUOTE="Grodus5"][QUOTE="bri360"]Wii is going to win in sales because its cheep, Wii will loose in every other category well mabye not creativity. But seriously it doesnt deserve to win in anything and neither does Nintendo after what they have turned into. I swear if Phantom Hourglass is either easy or feels gimmicky, that will be my last straw with nin. Im not a Wii/ Nintendo hater, actually I like Nintendo, but they are slowly abandoning real gamersbri360

How does something win if it doesn't deserve it? Because they cheated? Thats the only way. And the Wii is not cheating. The price is not cheating either, they chose to make a cheaper system at the drawback of less power, and it is working. Nintendo took a big risk in this. So if I ever play cards with you, and I win, will you say I didn't deserve it?

Just because you win doesn't mean you deserved to win, and that doesn't mean you cheated, face it, im as big a Nintendo fan as they next guy but they are going downhill fast. The games are getting easy and gimmicky for all the "casuals" who seem to be Nintendo's new main focus. No longer do they make games for gamer, no, now they make games for mom dad and the whole family... Wow that sounds fun...:roll: I don't want to see Nintendo go this way but its happening and I will jump off before this ship sinks. Just look at how Sega turned out with Sonic and thier consols. Nintendo isnt failing but its switching its market to a new audience. Non- gamers.

Care to tell which games've been dumbed down?

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[QUOTE="bri360"]Did you not see those games? They are getting easier and gimmicky. THE ZAPPER WOW!!!......... Most look way to easy and one of my most anticipated games Mario Galaxy looks cheep, easy, and it doesn't have the Mario feel anymore. Also all the games are getting way to easy, ive yet to play a challenging game on the Wii for ex: TP was by far the easiest and most taked on felt Zelda ive ever played.Adramelech-
Yeah, it's almost like you are getting older, more experienced and better at games or something. What, you mean a new Mario game isn't as challenging as the one you played when you were eight years old? There's a shocker.

Not that, im saying TP was easy, even though I have gotten better, it was just to easy to figure out compared to the other zelda's. Also I just recently played Ocarina of time again.

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Sales i agree but games no library is gonna be weak.
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#37 Galaxybear
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Look its a simple concept, since a huge amount of Wii owners are CASUAL (to borrow the use of caps P) then they will by definition buy LESS games because of less FREQUENCY of playing time, and since the sales numbers will eventual drop (thats not a flame itsa fact that all products face) its not so cut and dry that Wii will make the most money since 360 and ps3 owners are almost by definition more serious gamers therefore buying more games as more gamers buy a 360 or a PS3.
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#38 conradgeneral
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[QUOTE="bri360"]Wii is going to win in sales because its cheep, Wii will loose in every other category well mabye not creativity. But seriously it doesnt deserve to win in anything and neither does Nintendo after what they have turned into. I swear if Phantom Hourglass is either easy or feels gimmicky, that will be my last straw with nin. Im not a Wii/ Nintendo hater, actually I like Nintendo, but they are slowly abandoning real gamersZhengi

How are they abandoning real gamers? Was MP3, SSBB, or SMG canceled? Did Fire Emblem, BWII, Disaster, Mario Kart, and a slew of other games canceled? Did they decide to stop making anymore Zeldas, Pikmins, Animal Crossing, etc. games? How exactly are they abandoning real gamers?

By making easy games that do not pose any challenge to experienced players. They are doing this to maketheir games"accessible" to non-gamers.Twilight Princess, for example, was the easiest Zelda I've ever played...

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#39 conradgeneral
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damn, I've just repeated bri360 :P

Anyway, if Nintendo just added difficulty to their 1st party games the wii would appeal not just to the casual but also the Hardcore gamer.

Likewise, I would like to play Mario Galaxy and Prime Corruption before giving up on Nintendo and saying they are abandoning the hardcore audience.

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#40 coreygames
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I knew this thread would bait the flames. That aside, I don't really care who wins this war (as of right now; that could change if a company enrages me). I feel perfectly contempt with my Wii only set up. For Christmas, I hope to get a 360 and Live, and it should be good.
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#41 DeadlyZodiac
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I knew this thread would bait the flames. That aside, I don't really care who wins this war (as of right now; that could change if a company enrages me). I feel perfectly contempt with my Wii only set up. For Christmas, I hope to get a 360 and Live, and it should be good.coreygames

Heh, I think you mean content, or otherwise you have some Nintendo angst you're not aware of:P

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#42 coreygames
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[QUOTE="coreygames"]I knew this thread would bait the flames. That aside, I don't really care who wins this war (as of right now; that could change if a company enrages me). I feel perfectly contempt with my Wii only set up. For Christmas, I hope to get a 360 and Live, and it should be good.DeadlyZodiac

Heh, I think you mean content, or otherwise you have some Nintendo angst you're not aware of:P

Oh thank you. Now it is a question of simple typo or Freudian slip?