I Really Believe Sony NGP Will Be The Portable King This Time

Believe me i know and have agreed with the DS's domination of the portable market....but there are a few things people need to consider this time around, such as....

Nintendo themselves already recommended that children who are basically still growing and whose eyes are still developing, basically ages 3 to 13 years of age avoid playing in 3D mode for any long length of time...So that puts it back in 2D for most kids which is already a DS or DSI.

Now those ages are a huge part of Nintendo's portable market, the mommy's who take the kids on long car trips and so on will steer away from the 3Ds for the above mentioned reason.

Now the hardware, although improved, is only about 1/4th that of the new Sony NGP, Game Informer's and a few online hardware comparisons are heavy in Sony's favor, from processing power to ram, to screen size, even the new menu system.

Sony has built without a doubt the most powerful portable hardware thus far, and even though it didn't help them before, this time they've not only included 2 touch screens to Nintendo's one touch screen, but now they also have 2 analog sticks instead of one.

So all of us console guy's that are so used to the dual analog control scheme will feel most comfortable holding and playing Sony's NGP, where as Nintendo's one analog nub will just feel a little awkward to most players.

I really think since the very first release of a Sony portable, they've finally got it right and Nintendo's portable market share will definitely feel some pressure in this latest portable war.

While I don't know if they will be the portable king or not, I am very interested in the NGP.

Everybody is saying that the NGP is going to dominate because of how powerful it is.Thats the exactly the same thing people said back when the PSP launched.Im calling it now,the NGP will end up like the PSP.

Everybody is saying that the NGP is going to dominate because of how powerful it is.Thats the exactly the same thing people said back when the PSP launched.Im calling it now,the NGP will end up like the PSP.

JordanizPro

Hardware excess. DS already proved that a quality handheld doesn't need expensive hardware, it needs something innovative developers can cope with quality titles.

The NGP will be Sony's handheld PS3, in all senses: it'll be a high-quality piece of hardware, but will start off with a lack of exclusives and a high price tag, which will repel possible buyers and lead it to a financial failure.

Sales, the 3DS will slaughter the NGP.

Games Library? Who knows.

If it's too expensive as the PSP was then it won't be king.

meh i dont give a rats ass if its the pc of handhelds in terms of graphics, im interested in the games. nintedo always delivers in the handheld department, from first party to third, thats all that matters.

NGP better step its game up or it will be left eating dust... again

It wont be "king" by sales....because 3ds will outsell the NGP easily. But I do think the NGP will be the better device with better games.

The 3d fad is not going to last that long Tbh. Before you know it, the next big thing will come out and everyone will try and copy that too...3d is gimmicky, kinda cool, but VERY gimmicky. I would have rather Nintendo built their Handheld to match some sort of Wii technology and scrap the 3d thing all together...I am only buying a 3ds because the graphics will be much improved over the DS (hopefully).

But what if iPhone conquers and defeats both, the 3DS and the NGP? :P

The NGP will launch at a fatally high price point, and high development costs will cripple it's library.

Maybe in Bizarro world. Nobody has ever beaten Nintendo when it comes to handhelds, and I don't see that changing. Mostly because Nintendo's first party content alone will be better than anything ever released for the NGP.

Sales, the 3DS will slaughter the NGP.

Games Library? Who knows.

madsnakehhh

The NGP will launch at a fatally high price point, and high development costs will cripple it's library.

789shadow

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

The NGP will launch at a fatally high price point, and high development costs will cripple it's library.

HuusAsking

But what if iPhone conquers and defeats both, the 3DS and the NGP? :P

nameless12345

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="789shadow"]

The NGP will launch at a fatally high price point, and high development costs will cripple it's library.

Sp4rtan_3

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

The NGP will launch at a fatally high price point, and high development costs will cripple it's library.

HuusAsking

I don't believe any of those estimates. Sorry. :P

Disagree. Kids will get this regardless of the health issues IMO. NGP seems to be targeted to the techno buffs just like the PSP was. I just find hard to believe a 7 year old would choose the NGP over the 3DS or that they would choose having a second analog stick over 3D. In terms of sales I expect this to be the same as the DS vs PSP. As for games...I am hoping that 3rd party devs support the NGP because I really want one.

I wouldn't put too much weight in processing power if I were you, at least when it comes to NGP defeating the 3ds.

I will say one thing though, the same reasoning applies to the people who believe Nintendo can never be defeated or gain a head to head competitor because of their previous sucess in the handheld market. The PS brand was unbeatable too when it came to consoles, as of now, that is no longer the case.

So yeah, I think NGP definitely stands more than a decent chance.

Let's just wait and see what happens. Maybe Sony might beat Nintendo this time around who knows.

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="789shadow"]

The NGP will launch at a fatally high price point, and high development costs will cripple it's library.

789shadow

I don't believe any of those estimates. Sorry. :P

dont see how.... psp was miles better then the ds, ds lite, dsi, dsi xl..... its main problem was price and non kiddy friendly games. sony is just repeating the same mistakes. they also supported the ps2 over the psp which will be done again with psp 2

Believe me i know and have agreed with the DS's domination of the portable market....but there are a few things people need to consider this time around, such as....

Nintendo themselves already recommended that children who are basically still growing and whose eyes are still developing, basically ages 3 to 13 years of age avoid playing in 3D mode for any long length of time...So that puts it back in 2D for most kids which is already a DS or DSI. Now those ages are a huge part of Nintendo's portable market, the mommy's who take the kids on long car trips and so on will steer away from the 3Ds for the above mentioned reason.

Slimmin360

Now the hardware, although improved, is only about 1/4th that of the new Sony NGP, Game Informer's and a few online hardware comparisons are heavy in Sony's favor, from processing power to ram, to screen size, even the new menu system. Sony has built without a doubt the most powerful portable hardware thus far, and even though it didn't help them before, this time they've not only included 2 touch screens to Nintendo's one touch screen, but now they also have 2 analog sticks instead of one.

Slimmin360

If Nintendo has proven anything, it's that success is not contingent on capability. So what if the NGP has every feature under the sun? The 3DS has Nintendo, that's all it will need. I'd be willing to bet that if Nintendo released another handheld as powerful as the DSi, it would be able to stay competitive with the NGP.

So all of us console guy's that are so used to the dual analog control scheme will feel most comfortable holding and playing Sony's NGP, where as Nintendo's one analog nub will just feel a little awkward to most players. I really think since the very first release of a Sony portable, they've finally got it right and Nintendo's portable market share will definitely feel some pressure in this latest portable war.

Slimmin360

If it is 4 times as powerful, the price is high. Not only for the NGP but also for its games.

If the 3D isn't great, or has adverse effects like you say in OP, then yes i think it would negatively impact sales. However, hands-on's tell us the first time you see it it's pretty amazing. And i think that alone could negate the lost sales.

I do agree that the 3DS isn't a clear winner already. It's certainly not a perfect platform, and knowing that so well makes me a little uncertain.

I disagree with the people saying nintendo has this in their pockets whatever handheld they would have released. I don't think that people feel compelled to buy things from only one company. If sony would have an overall better handheld/library then i'm sure they would get that one instead.

I'm sure they'll both have games I want to play.

But what if iPhone conquers and defeats both, the 3DS and the NGP? :P

nameless12345

iPhone sales might go up but, at least Playstion has it's assets covered when it comes to game related business.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lvYTiBqzuc&playnext=1&list=PLD3F6D55AAF6BF001

It's certainly the more intelligently designed hardware, but it's going to come down to the games in the end.

The cheapest handheld with the greatest dev support has always sold the best. Unless the NGP is cheaper than the 3DS, I doubt it's going to outsell it.

I've got a feeling it will still be mega popular. Not saying it will be better than NGP (I have no interest in starting an argument that goes nowhere) but it will probably be more popular.

People forget that the PSP was consistently outselling the DS for a while. When the DS got Nintendogs, the DS Lite revision, and New Super Mario Bros, THAT is when it began to sell really well. I'm not sure whether the PSP2 or 3DS will come out on top, but let's not write off the PSP2 quite yet.Mrmccormo

Thats what i'm saying Sony's NGP, is a better design with 2 touch screens and 2 analog sticks, and a new graphic user interface, and a pure monster in hardware.

The 3DS processor speed tops out a just over 200mhz, the new Sony NGP is nearly 1ghz, and now that Sony was smart enough to put the games on a similar type SD Media card, battery life and load times will be better.

So with all these improvements don't count it out too soon.

Sales, the 3DS will slaughter the NGP.

Games Library? Who knows.

Sony isn't really building a handheld for children though. And children are the primary users for handhelds. Sony isn't going to "beat" Nintendo, because they're not trying to. They're trying to secure territory Nintendo has less control over and make a profit on that.

Everybody is saying that the NGP is going to dominate because of how powerful it is.Thats the exactly the same thing people said back when the PSP launched.Im calling it now,the NGP will end up like the PSP.

JordanizPro

um no comparing the line up confirmed for ngp i say no ,

it has to many titles psp already has , --did those titles help any for psp --- no ,

and theres hardly anything original plus what does it cost ? how much are the games ?
ya if ngp games cost 60 bucks you can count me out , rather pay that much for ps3 games to play on my big screen

3ds games only cost 29 to 40 bucks the same as the ds , and psp

which ya id rather pay 20 bucks less ,

then pay same as i do my console games for less time playing it lol

nintendo has its cards right

3d doesnt need to be a factor in this decision heres why,

the origianl games

backwards compatibility

cheaper games

virtual console=-gb gbc games

3d pictures , -not only is 3ds gona be used for gaming in my side, it will serve well when i go ot yellowstone

and video camera to ---- all this in one 250 buck package i cant touch a digital cam with 3d picturres for that price ,

and your doubting the 20 plus yrs of experience of nintnedo in this field of play ---

which is gonna be hard because lets be honest the market psp 2 is aming for is ipad

not nintendos thats a fact cause sony learned they cant keep a good dog down

they said it them selfs when making the psp 2 /ngp

nintendo is also 1 yr ahead of sony, ---remember last time they were just months ahead !!!!! and still has a margin of ds sales that out sell psp 2 to 1

that plays factor as well when sony has to deal with the usual bad launch titles 3ds will have its cards ready

and possibly even 3ds lite and a price drop!

its happened with ds

-so there for you cant forcast the future based on analyst who lie half the time i remember this same argument was said about psp

even wii people doubted wii

and loook it has a gaping lead of 30 plus million units over 360 ps3 is not a factor especally since its banned in europe

bad for sony

plus ipad 2 is around the corner

not only does sony gotta deal with 3ds , but ngp wont be out even for ipad 2 launch

sony is being shoved aside again , by their own fault , ngp should have been announced long ago ---when the rumors started , cause guess what ,

3ds wasnt even announced, 3ds got announced right after the rumors

lol thats how gullible they are and the line up of ngp games which is resistance call of duty uncharted killzone little big planet lost planet -2- a what yr and half old port , ya those dont appeal to 3ds market dont even appeal to me any more

im sick of fpses and if thius is all ngp is gonna get then you know what happens ,

from here on out ,

3ds all the way

It will be hard to determine what will happen with the NGP and 3DS because then of the other gens are a good comparison for what this one is. You can't compare this to PSP and the DS. In that gen the PSP had better graphics, but the DS had better price, controls, third party support,and battery life. This gen the 3DS will still have the better price, but that is the only assured thing. As far as controls the NGP one ups the 3DS with an extra analog and touch screen, while the 3DS still has an extra screen. One might argue that the NGP will offer better controls and allow more variety in games than the 3DS, an advantage the PSP sorely lacked. Battery life also looks to be quite similar for both, with the 3DS taking a slight lead if you turn off the 3D. Third party support at this point is also a toss up. Yet again with graphics each handheld is better than the other in certain parts.

So really, this looks to beclose match, as long as Sony supports the NGP well enough. Interesting times are heading our way System Wars, interesting times indeed.

[QUOTE="Mrmccormo"]People forget that the PSP was consistently outselling the DS for a while. When the DS got Nintendogs, the DS Lite revision, and New Super Mario Bros, THAT is when it began to sell really well. I'm not sure whether the PSP2 or 3DS will come out on top, but let's not write off the PSP2 quite yet.Slimmin360

Thats what i'm saying Sony's NGP, is a better design with 2 touch screens and 2 analog sticks, and a new graphic user interface, and a pure monster in hardware.

The 3DS processor speed tops out a just over 200mhz, the new Sony NGP is nearly 1ghz, and now that Sony was smart enough to put the games on a similar type SD Media card, battery life and load times will be better.

So with all these improvements don't count it out too soon.

Just because someone's in a faster car doesn't necessarily mean they're going to beat the more experienced driver who's driving a less capable one. You're placing too much emphasis on hardware. How it's used is what's relevant.

It's going to be interesting to say the least. If NGP is priced competively they MAY just have a chance of winning. The dual analogs coupled with strong visuals might just be enough for them.

3DS for me all the way though. I can honestly say I will never buy a NGP no matter how many good games there are. I'll have a 3DS and a 360 to keep me happy.TigerWars

Same here. I too, also have a 360 & am also planning to buy a 3DS. I would like to buy the NGP, but it's got to prove to me that it'll have it's own library of games. And what I mean by that is, there can't be too many ports, because what would be the purpose of me buying it if all it's going to be is a bunch of downgraded PS3/360 games from 3rd parties (such as Lost Planet 2)? I can play those exact same games, undowngraded, on my 360 with better graphics.