I think 500,000 PS3's sold is a very good launch (PS2 did worse)

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[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="metalmonkey268"]How could VG Charts get that info so quickly? It literally launched hours ago.Squall_Griver

Don't be so stupid there weren't even 500,000 available in the uk

[QUOTE="Zerostatic0"]When discussing the success of a product, the results come first not the various aspects that contributed to that result.metalmonkey268

Maybe for you. But when I look at sales, I look at that circumstances surrounding the sales. I don't look at them in a vacuum.

It's not sold out. Go to GAME, play.com, amazon, gameplay.com, gamestation.com (all the major online retailers) and they still have stock.Brutal_Elitegs

Websites have different stocks of units than physical stores. You cannot compare the two.

[QUOTE="Brutal_Elitegs"] It's not sold out. Go to GAME, play.com, amazon, gameplay.com, gamestation.com (all the major online retailers) and they still have stock.metalmonkey268

Websites have different stocks of units than physical stores. You cannot compare the two.

Why not? Xbox360 and Wii were sold out from online stores for the longest time during launch too. 

I'm calling TOTAL BS on this. There is no fracking way that you could get any kind of accurate sales numbers from across Europe in one day. Just stop it. heretrix

Ok, so if Sega decides to take a dump in a box and they call it the new Sega Jupiter system and they make about 1 million of them, and they stock it in major stores. I'm sure it'll get at least a couple of hundred sales from die-hard Sega fans who don't know what's really in the box and the curious. So could I then write threads titled "I think 800 Sega Jupiters sold is a very good launch" and use the argument that that for being a pile of human feces Sega's new system launch was a success.Zerostatic0

:lol: I see you want all out for this analogy.

If that were to happen, I'd then claim that "Seeing as the consumers didn't know what was in the box, it isn't surprising they sold that many"

The single fact that it's crap in a box doesn't matter if the consumers didn't know. That's the entire circumstances, and that's what I'd take into account.

 

Why not? Xbox360 and Wii were sold out from online stores for the longest time during launch too.

spinecaton

That really doesn't have anything to do with what I am saying.

The dude said he could buy a PS3 from all those sites, and used that as evidence to prove that the physical stores were not sold out.

But seeing as the online retailers and the actual stores on the street don't have the same suppy, you can't use it as evidence. 

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Why not? Xbox360 and Wii were sold out from online stores for the longest time during launch too.

metalmonkey268

That really doesn't have anything to do with what I am saying.

The dude said he could buy a PS3 from all those sites, and used that as evidence to prove that the physical stores were not sold out.

But seeing as the online retailers and the actual stores on the street don't have the same suppy, you can't use it as evidence.

Do you have physical proof that PS3 sold out in stores?  

[QUOTE="heretrix"]I'm calling TOTAL BS on this. There is no fracking way that you could get any kind of accurate sales numbers from across Europe in one day. Just stop it. nickmag

It's not like every store in europe is connected to one database. I'm sticking to calling this BS until something offical comes along.

360 will lose in both Europe and Japan so it ll lose in overall...SumerianDaemon

 

Do you have physical proof that PS3 sold out in stores?

spinecaton

Again, that doesn't any anything to do with that I was saying. I never said it sold out, I don't know if it has. I was simply saying that you can't use online availability as evidence against claims that PS3's sold out in stores. 

hahahahahahaha i do not believe thos figures for 1 second. i liv ein uk and here you can walk in every shop andjust buy one. each had about 20 in stock without pre orders. wth? lmfao. so those figures are defo just shipped coz if theres only 200 000 in uk they def r not all sold.

they didn't sell anywhere close to that -- by all accounts the Euro launch was a failure. just give it a few days until the real analysis pops up.

personally I find it incredibly hard to believe EU sold 500,000 when only 100 people lined up at the largest retailer in the UK, and less than 200 at the Paris event, and even if you add in Australia apparently only 40-50 showed and only 10,000 were preordered.

dunno, i think its pretty pathetic personally. 

"After a delay of more than four months, one million PlayStation 3 consoles went on sale from midnight across Europe, with over 200,000 available in the UK."http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/a44314/ps3-selling-faster-than-xbox-360-in-us.html


VG charts before the euro sale http://www.vgcharts.org/ngwars.php(note they did not update the sales for PS3 in there sig links) which was 2.08 million

now its at 2.67 million i think its a good launch,at least they acknowledged the PS3
unlike japan and Xbox360 :lol:

EDIT:
http://www.vgcharts.org/euroyearly.php?year=2000 PS2 sold about 0.17 million in europe launch ,PS3 is doing better than PS2 did in Europe
PS3 doing better than PS2 in Europe
PS3=not a flop
or else you would be calling the PS2 a bigger flop



Squall_Griver

remember , sony did say they would sell 6 million by the end  of march.

 1/2 a million is no were near 6 million last time I checked.

[QUOTE="Squall_Griver"][QUOTE="fraz1776"]

[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"][QUOTE="metalmonkey268"]How could VG Charts get that info so quickly? It literally launched hours ago.Brutal_Elitegs

Don't be so stupid there weren't even 500,000 available in the uk

haha i know hes on drugs. every shop i went to, i live in cardiff, they had 20 odd ps3's tht u could walk in a buy. ha the guy even asked if i wanted one.

remember , sony did say they would sell 6 million by the end of march.

1/2 a million is no were near 6 million last time I checked.

dreman999

Sony said they would "ship" 6 million by the end of March, but that only means that PS3s are leaving their factories and going to their distribution centers. It does not mean "sold to retailers" which is how Microsoft defines it.

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remember , sony did say they would sell 6 million by the end of march.

1/2 a million is no were near 6 million last time I checked.

thinicer

Sony said they would "ship" 6 million by the end of March, but that only means that PS3s are leaving their factories and going to their distribution centers. It does not mean "sold to retailers" which is how Microsoft defines it.

And we all know how the PS2 turned out....:Dlilrush

"After a delay of more than four months, one million PlayStation 3 consoles went on sale from midnight across Europe, with over 200,000 available in the UK."http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/a44314/ps3-selling-faster-than-xbox-360-in-us.html


VG charts before the euro sale http://www.vgcharts.org/ngwars.php(note they did not update the sales for PS3 in there sig links) which was 2.08 million

now its at 2.67 million i think its a good launch,at least they acknowledged the PS3
unlike japan and Xbox360 :lol:

EDIT:
http://www.vgcharts.org/euroyearly.php?year=2000 PS2 sold about 0.17 million in europe launch ,PS3 is doing better than PS2 did in Europe
PS3 doing better than PS2 in Europe
PS3=not a flop
or else you would be calling the PS2 a bigger flop



Squall_Griver

[QUOTE="lilrush"]And we all know how the PS2 turned out....:Dgamefreak5590

[QUOTE="gamefreak5590"][QUOTE="lilrush"]And we all know how the PS2 turned out....:Dheretrix

they didn't sell anywhere close to that -- by all accounts the Euro launch was a failure. just give it a few days until the real analysis pops up.

personally I find it incredibly hard to believe EU sold 500,000 when only 100 people lined up at the largest retailer in the UK, and less than 200 at the Paris event, and even if you add in Australia apparently only 40-50 showed and only 10,000 were preordered.

dunno, i think its pretty pathetic personally.

3picuri3

There is absolutely no way that the PS3 sold 500,000 units in Europe in a day.

"After a delay of more than four months, one million PlayStation 3 consoles went on sale from midnight across Europe, with over 200,000 available in the UK."http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/a44314/ps3-selling-faster-than-xbox-360-in-us.html


VG charts before the euro sale http://www.vgcharts.org/ngwars.php(note they did not update the sales for PS3 in there sig links) which was 2.08 million

now its at 2.67 million i think its a good launch,at least they acknowledged the PS3
unlike japan and Xbox360 :lol:

EDIT:
http://www.vgcharts.org/euroyearly.php?year=2000 PS2 sold about 0.17 million in europe launch ,PS3 is doing better than PS2 did in Europe
PS3 doing better than PS2 in Europe
PS3=not a flop
or else you would be calling the PS2 a bigger flop



Squall_Griver