I think it's criminal that ME1 isn't available for PS3. It's what made ME2 epic

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[QUOTE="loadedboon"]

If MS has the publishing rights for ME1 then how come EA published ME1 on PC?

loadedboon

I just explained it. Demiurge Studios did the Windows port, not BioWare.

Microsoft doesn't mind a game going to Windows, but it would object to a game going to a competitor's console.

So what is stopping EA from porting ME1 to PS3 by letting Demiurge do it? They never told what the extra content is for all we know it's ME1 on the same disc. The change is small but you never know.

What's stopping them is that Microsoft holds the publishing rights to the first game. They LET EA port the game to Windows, but they won't let them port it to a competitor's console.

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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

What's stopping them is that Microsoft holds the publishing rights to the first game. They LET EA port the game to Windows, but they won't let them port it to a competitor's console.

waltefmoney

You do know the PC is competing with their 360? Did they see money from every copy of ME1 sold on the pc? No they didn't. I knew your response would be illogical and you delivered :lol:

The PC is not competing with the 360. The PC is an independent market. If it wasn't, Microsoft wouldn't release so many games on both 360 and PC. EA PAID Microsoft so they could port the game to Windows. I don't know what the deal was, but I imagine MS got a few percent of the revenue. Now do you get it? Also, stop acting like you're twelve.

The PC is not competing with their 360? :lol: So what your saying is MS doesn't mind when they have a sale less from a game which is also on their 360 :lol: Link please that EA paid MS to publish the game on pc :lol: Think before you post and making personal insults is just a sign you lost.

ME has'nt aged well and I recommend any newcomer to just start with ME2 lest you may be put off the series entirely.

Me has'nt aged well and I recommend any newcomer yo just start with ME2 lest you may be put off the series entirely.

Filthybastrd

ME1 is the better game of the two imo. At least ME1 does have some RPG elements.. Me2 is nothing more then a tps shooter with a great story thrown in.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="loadedboon"]

You do know the PC is competing with their 360? Did they see money from every copy of ME1 sold on the pc? No they didn't. I knew your response would be illogical and you delivered :lol:

loadedboon

The PC is not competing with the 360. The PC is an independent market. If it wasn't, Microsoft wouldn't release so many games on both 360 and PC. EA PAID Microsoft so they could port the game to Windows. I don't know what the deal was, but I imagine MS got a few percent of the revenue. Now do you get it? Also, stop acting like you're twelve.

The PC is not competing with their 360? :lol: So what your saying is MS doesn't mind when they have a sale less from a game which is also on their 360 :lol: Think before you post and making personal insults is just a sign you lost.

No they don't. They published both versions and get equal amount of money from each sold copy on both. Let me explain it in a way you'd understand: Microsoft publishes a game on PC/360. Some people buy it on 360, others buy it on PC. The revenue from both goes towards Microsoft, because they published both.

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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

The PC is not competing with the 360. The PC is an independent market. If it wasn't, Microsoft wouldn't release so many games on both 360 and PC. EA PAID Microsoft so they could port the game to Windows. I don't know what the deal was, but I imagine MS got a few percent of the revenue. Now do you get it? Also, stop acting like you're twelve.

waltefmoney

The PC is not competing with their 360? :lol: So what your saying is MS doesn't mind when they have a sale less from a game which is also on their 360 :lol: Think before you post and making personal insults is just a sign you lost.

No they don't. They published both games and get equal amount of money from both. Let me explain it in a way you'd understand: Microsoft publishes a game on PC/360. Some people buy it on 360, others buy it on PC. The revenue from both goes towards Microsoft, because they published both.

Ah so first EA paid MS to publish it on the PC and now MS published both on the PC? :lol: Do you even know what you are talking about? And still waiting for the link EA paid MS

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="loadedboon"]

You do know the PC is competing with their 360? Did they see money from every copy of ME1 sold on the pc? No they didn't. I knew your response would be illogical and you delivered :lol:

loadedboon

The PC is not competing with the 360. The PC is an independent market. If it wasn't, Microsoft wouldn't release so many games on both 360 and PC. EA PAID Microsoft so they could port the game to Windows. I don't know what the deal was, but I imagine MS got a few percent of the revenue. Now do you get it? Also, stop acting like you're twelve.

The PC is not competing with their 360? :lol: So what your saying is MS doesn't mind when they have a sale less from a game which is also on their 360 :lol: Link please that EA paid MS to publish the game on pc :lol: Think before you post and making personal insults is just a sign you lost.

EA PAID Microsoft so they could port the game to Windows. I don't know what the deal was, but I imagine MS got a few percent of the revenue. Now do you get it? Also, stop acting like you're twelve.

waltefmoney

Ah, waltefmoney. Always making stuff up to proof a point. Like EA would pay Microsoft to publish a game on PC that a studio they own has made.

You're right, you don't know what the deal is. Also, don't insult people on stuff you don't know about, it tends to miss the point entirely.

[QUOTE="loadedboon"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

The PC is not competing with the 360. The PC is an independent market. If it wasn't, Microsoft wouldn't release so many games on both 360 and PC. EA PAID Microsoft so they could port the game to Windows. I don't know what the deal was, but I imagine MS got a few percent of the revenue. Now do you get it? Also, stop acting like you're twelve.

jasonharris48

The PC is not competing with their 360? :lol: So what your saying is MS doesn't mind when they have a sale less from a game which is also on their 360 :lol: Link please that EA paid MS to publish the game on pc :lol: Think before you post and making personal insults is just a sign you lost.

Yes I do know that but we we're talking about Mass Effect and not Fable

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

EA PAID Microsoft so they could port the game to Windows. I don't know what the deal was, but I imagine MS got a few percent of the revenue. Now do you get it? Also, stop acting like you're twelve.

R4gn4r0k

Ah, waltefmoney. Always making stuff up to proof a point. Like EA would pay Microsoft to publish a game on PC that a studio they own has made.

You're right, you don't know what the deal is. Also, don't insult people on stuff you don't know about, it tends to miss the point entirely.

Can you please explain how Microsoft would hand the publishing rights otherwise? Because I don't see how EA will port a sequel to a game they own, but not the predecessor to the game they own on the PS3? Or are you implying MS simply asked them not to port the game and they said "aww, Microsoft, you're so cute, don't worry, we won't bring the first ME to PS3."

I've played both Mass Effect's already on the 360 and I don't think people are considering a different approach to all of this. While I think the journey to Mass Effect 2 from 1 is going to be unmatched, I think there's a decent experience in living as the already established hero Shepard. For those in the dark, the game it essentially bringing them back as man or woman that many respect and admire but that they'll know very little about. Considering what happens in the beginning, I think that's slightly interesting. I'm not saying Shepard forgot who he/she was and or what happened in Mass Effect 1 but coming back from what happens leaves an adventure of identity in the skin of a person of great importance.

Regardless, I still want to see how Bioware is going to introduce Mass Effect in their own way to PS3 only owners. I doubt they'll half-ass it.

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[QUOTE="loadedboon"]

The PC is not competing with their 360? :lol: So what your saying is MS doesn't mind when they have a sale less from a game which is also on their 360 :lol: Link please that EA paid MS to publish the game on pc :lol: Think before you post and making personal insults is just a sign you lost.

loadedboon

Yes I do know that but we we're talking about Mass Effect and not Fable

[QUOTE="loadedboon"]

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"] You do realise Microsoft also publishes games on the PC right? (In example Fable 3)

jasonharris48

Yes I do know that but we we're talking about Mass Effect and not Fable

The Ninja Gaiden case is different, I believe. I think Tecmo had a deal with Microsoft about future ports of the game so that's why they had no say on the matter when NG came to PS3. That's how they agreed to let one of their internal studios(Team Ninja) work for MS.

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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

EA PAID Microsoft so they could port the game to Windows. I don't know what the deal was, but I imagine MS got a few percent of the revenue. Now do you get it? Also, stop acting like you're twelve.

waltefmoney

Ah, waltefmoney. Always making stuff up to proof a point. Like EA would pay Microsoft to publish a game on PC that a studio they own has made.

You're right, you don't know what the deal is. Also, don't insult people on stuff you don't know about, it tends to miss the point entirely.

Can you please explain how Microsoft would hand the publishing rights otherwise? Because I don't see how EA will port a sequel to a game they own, but not the predecessor to the game they own on the PS3? Or are you implying MS simply asked them not to port the game and they said "aww, Microsoft, you're so cute, don't worry, we won't bring the first ME to PS3."

I didn't say anything about that, so no, I won't explain. Also again, the last part adds nothing to the conversation because you don't know what you're talking about. I was talking about the fact that you said that EA PAID MS for Mass Effect on PC. What are you talking about ?

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[QUOTE="loadedboon"]

Yes I do know that but we we're talking about Mass Effect and not Fable

waltefmoney

The Ninja Gaiden case is different, I believe. I think Tecmo had a deal with Microsoft about future ports of the game so that's why they had no say on the matter when NG came to PS3. That's how they agreed to let one of their internal studios(Team Ninja) work for MS.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="R4gn4r0k"]

Ah, waltefmoney. Always making stuff up to proof a point. Like EA would pay Microsoft to publish a game on PC that a studio they own has made.

You're right, you don't know what the deal is. Also, don't insult people on stuff you don't know about, it tends to miss the point entirely.

R4gn4r0k

Can you please explain how Microsoft would hand the publishing rights otherwise? Because I don't see how EA will port a sequel to a game they own, but not the predecessor to the game they own on the PS3? Or are you implying MS simply asked them not to port the game and they said "aww, Microsoft, you're so cute, don't worry, we won't bring the first ME to PS3."

I didn't say anything about that, so no, I won't explain. Also again, the last part adds nothing to the conversation because you don't know what you're talking about. I was talking about the fact that you said that EA PAID MS for Mass Effect on PC. What are you talking about ?

Why did you even post then? Can you think of a more logical excuse for Microsoft to allow EA to port the game than PAYMENT? Or was this yet another good deed from Microsoft "Yes EA, we own the publishing rights to ME, but we will let you port the game on PC and collect all the money for no apparent reason. We're Microsoft, we don't care about money, right?" Anyway, here's your proof.

"The game is the first in a new deal struck between EA and Microsoft, which will see the publisher bringing this and other unspecified games to the PC market."

I'd like to see how R4gn4r0k and the other guy respond to that.

Why did you even post then? Can you think of a more logical excuse for Microsoft to allow EA to port the game than PAYMENT? Or was this yet another good deed from Microsoft "Yes EA, we own the publishing rights to ME, but we will let you port the game on PC and collect all the money for no apparent reason. We're Microsoft, we don't care about money, right?" Anyway, here's your proof.

"The game is the first in a new deal struck between EA and Microsoft, which will see the publisher bringing this and other unspecified games to the PC market."

waltefmoney

Always insulting people in every response just shows how insecure you are about you response and how it's all BS. BS you try so eagerly to defend.

Oh I don't why MS would do that ... perhaps they have an OS on PC ? perhaps they do that with a lot of games, first have the 360 version come out, than the PC port ? Perhaps Gears, Halo, Fable ? Perhaps you don't have the faintest idea what your talking about ?

Would you please explain or think of a logical reason why EA would pay to publish a game on PC(yes even if MS has the publishing rights) developed by one of their own studios ? I don't think you can

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Why did you even post then? Can you think of a more logical excuse for Microsoft to allow EA to port the game than PAYMENT? Or was this yet another good deed from Microsoft "Yes EA, we own the publishing rights to ME, but we will let you port the game on PC and collect all the money for no apparent reason. We're Microsoft, we don't care about money, right?" Anyway, here's your proof.

"The game is the first in a new deal struck between EA and Microsoft, which will see the publisher bringing this and other unspecified games to the PC market."

R4gn4r0k

Always insulting people in every response just shows how insecure you are about you response and how it's all BS. BS you try so eagerly to defend.

Oh I don't why MS would do that ... perhaps they have an OS on PC ? perhaps they do that with a lot of games, first have the 360 version come out, than the PC port ? Perhaps Gears, Halo, Fable ? Perhaps you don't have the faintest idea what your talking about ?

Would you please explain or think of a logical reason why EA would pay to publish a game on PC(yes even if MS has the publishing rights) developed by one of their own studios ? I don't think you can

Because their studio doesn't own the publishing rights to the game? BioWare only developed the game, and Mass Effect was the reason EA acquired them in the first place. So they should get BioWare, but not acquire the rights to publish their hit game from Microsoft? That makes no sense. Anyway, I already posted a source saying MS and EA indeed signed a deal so that EA can publish Mass Effect on PC. But now you're gonna say MS signed the deal out of good intentions, and they were not compensated with a sum of money for it, right?

Because their studio doesn't own the publishing rights to the game? BioWare only developed the game, and Mass Effect was the reason EA acquired them in the first place. So they should get BioWare, but not acquire the rights to publish their hit game from Microsoft? That makes no sense. Anyway, I already posted a source saying MS and EA indeed signed a deal so that EA can publish Mass Effect on PC. But now you're gonna say MS signed the deal out of good intentions, and they were not compensated with a sum of money for it, right?

waltefmoney

Oops ! Didn't notice the link between all the rambling. My bad!

Yeah I read it, it states that MS and EA made a deal. But the only way you say that they would make that deal is when MS receives a large sum from EA ? You don't know that, you assume that, and going by your last sentence everyone not assuming that is wrong.

Now I won't say that MS wasn't compensated, but they could just as well get part of the profits of the PC sales instead of getting a large sum from EA when singing the deal. Don't you think ?

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Because their studio doesn't own the publishing rights to the game? BioWare only developed the game, and Mass Effect was the reason EA acquired them in the first place. So they should get BioWare, but not acquire the rights to publish their hit game from Microsoft? That makes no sense. Anyway, I already posted a source saying MS and EA indeed signed a deal so that EA can publish Mass Effect on PC. But now you're gonna say MS signed the deal out of good intentions, and they were not compensated with a sum of money for it, right?

R4gn4r0k

Oops ! Didn't notice the link between all the rambling. My bad!

Yeah I read it, it states that MS and EA made a deal. But the only way you say that they would make that deal is when MS receives a large sum from EA ? You don't know that, you assume that, and going by your last sentence everyone not assuming that is wrong.

Now I won't say that MS wasn't compensated, but they could just as well get part of the profits of the PC sales instead of getting a large sum from EA when singing the deal. Don't you think ?

I said that's a possibility too. A few posts ago:

I don't know what the deal was, but I imagine MS got a few percent of the revenue.waltefmoney

I don't know what incentive they had for signing the deal, it's most likely either getting paid directly or getting a slice from the revenue, but all I said from the start is that Microsoft probably got paid from EA so they can publish the game on PC, but that dude loadedboon didn't even want to hear about it.

[QUOTE="R4gn4r0k"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Can you please explain how Microsoft would hand the publishing rights otherwise? Because I don't see how EA will port a sequel to a game they own, but not the predecessor to the game they own on the PS3? Or are you implying MS simply asked them not to port the game and they said "aww, Microsoft, you're so cute, don't worry, we won't bring the first ME to PS3."

waltefmoney

I didn't say anything about that, so no, I won't explain. Also again, the last part adds nothing to the conversation because you don't know what you're talking about. I was talking about the fact that you said that EA PAID MS for Mass Effect on PC. What are you talking about ?

Why did you even post then? Can you think of a more logical excuse for Microsoft to allow EA to port the game than PAYMENT? Or was this yet another good deed from Microsoft "Yes EA, we own the publishing rights to ME, but we will let you port the game on PC and collect all the money for no apparent reason. We're Microsoft, we don't care about money, right?" Anyway, here's your proof.

"The game is the first in a new deal struck between EA and Microsoft, which will see the publisher bringing this and other unspecified games to the PC market."

I'd like to see how R4gn4r0k and the other guy respond to that.

An where in the article does it say they PAID ms? That's right nowhere :lol:

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="R4gn4r0k"]

I didn't say anything about that, so no, I won't explain. Also again, the last part adds nothing to the conversation because you don't know what you're talking about. I was talking about the fact that you said that EA PAID MS for Mass Effect on PC. What are you talking about ?

loadedboon

Why did you even post then? Can you think of a more logical excuse for Microsoft to allow EA to port the game than PAYMENT? Or was this yet another good deed from Microsoft "Yes EA, we own the publishing rights to ME, but we will let you port the game on PC and collect all the money for no apparent reason. We're Microsoft, we don't care about money, right?" Anyway, here's your proof.

"The game is the first in a new deal struck between EA and Microsoft, which will see the publisher bringing this and other unspecified games to the PC market."

I'd like to see how R4gn4r0k and the other guy respond to that.

An where in the article does it say they PAID ms? That's right nowhere :lol:

Dude, come on. Do you really think any company would sign a deal like this without having some sort of incentive? Not to mention this is Microsoft..

[QUOTE="loadedboon"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Why did you even post then? Can you think of a more logical excuse for Microsoft to allow EA to port the game than PAYMENT? Or was this yet another good deed from Microsoft "Yes EA, we own the publishing rights to ME, but we will let you port the game on PC and collect all the money for no apparent reason. We're Microsoft, we don't care about money, right?" Anyway, here's your proof.

"The game is the first in a new deal struck between EA and Microsoft, which will see the publisher bringing this and other unspecified games to the PC market."

I'd like to see how R4gn4r0k and the other guy respond to that.

waltefmoney

An where in the article does it say they PAID ms? That's right nowhere :lol:

Dude, come on. Do you really think any company would sign a deal like this without having some sort of incentive?

You originally stated EA paid MS so yes i'm gonna keep hammering on this. I stand corrected for that there was no deal. This time you got me and I was wrong but still you claimed they payed them. The deal could just simply have been that they could port it to PC but that it would never be allowed to come to the PS3. In that case it sucks for ps3 only owners since ME1 is the better of the 2.

I said that's a possibility too. A few posts ago:

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]I don't know what the deal was, but I imagine MS got a few percent of the revenue.waltefmoney

I don't know what incentive they had for signing the deal, it's most likely either getting paid directly or getting a slice from the revenue, but all I said from the start is that Microsoft probably got paid from EA so they can publish the game on PC, but that dude loadedboon didn't even want to hear about it.

You're right. But the way you form your sentences in your posts just makes me think that you just want to flame instead of trying to provide some proof to backup your statements. But you did so I'm wrong.

Ok this is getting stupid seriously! Look I never played ME1 and played ME2 1st. I enjoyed the game and had no set backs for me, then many months later I played ME1 and it didn't make my experience go from meh to yay. I just like how fanboys find something negative about leftouts that the PS3 gets and just run with it just to make it seem that their always the superior one.

All true and IMO ME2 may be the better overall game but ME1 was the better RPG. Hey, at least PS3 fans will be able to use their ME2 character in ME3 !! :D

One of the main points of the ME franchise has been to show the consequences of your actions. The whole outcome of the trilogy is affected by what choices you make in the first game, and PS3 users are not going to be able to make those choices. They're not going to get the whole experience, and I worry that they'll be less than impressed because of it.

I think it would of paid off to make a bundle of the 2 games but no they just expect us to know the story of the first game. It's just not good enough I'm afraid.

totally, me1 without me2 is not a complete experience, its like watching the sequel of a movie you never watched

So you're telling me as a 360 or PC owner I have to buy ME AND ME2 just to get the full experience?

A game should always be able to stand on its own merit.

So you're telling me as a 360 or PC owner I have to buy ME AND ME2 just to get the full experience?

A game should always be able to stand on its own merit.

yanbuco2712

This all just DC from the Lemmings that you need the 1st game or you miss out on alot. You can perfectly start with the 2nd game and know what is going on and happened since everything from the main story gets explained in dialogs throughout the game. The thing they are yapping about are al minor things which doesn't change the game in any significant way.

It's amazing how people are making it out as though ME2 on PS3 is a bad thing. 'Hey, can we play Warhawk round yours Jerry?' 'Got rid of my PS3. Sorry.' 'Wha-? Why?' 'Didn't you hear? ME2 is on PS3 now' 'Isn't that a good thing?' 'No. ME1 isn't being ported. I was so angry, my immediate response was to hurl my PS3 at my sister' '...Wow dude, Is she ok? Nah she's dead. So's my sister...' [SadFace] FinIndie_Hitman

They are making it much worse than it is really.

Before ME2 was announced for PS3:
lemmings: Mass Effect is exclusive to 360!
cows: no, it isn't it's also on Pc !

After:
Cows: Haha, you lost an exclusive
lemmings: It was never an exclusive to begin with and Haha, you can't play mass effect 1.

Same with the mafia 2 grass fiasco

anyone can easily enjoy ME2 without playing ME1 first.

but it is true there will be alot of little bits you will miss out on... and you wont feel quite as attached to some of the characters.

hell even the reviews for ME2 said the game was alot better if you transferred your save from the first one... so i wouldnt just chalk this up to lemming damage control. Professional reviewers said the same thing way before the game was announced for ps3.

this is from IGN's original ME2 review...

"The true strength of Mass Effect 2's story, however, is in how personal BioWare has made it. If you played Mass Effect 1 through to the end and still have your save data, this game will import your character and all the decisions you made. The central plot will not drastically change, but the experience most certainly will. Some old friends and acquaintances will return – and others won't – based on decisions you made in the last game. Even the opening moments of Mass Effect 2 can be slightly different.

The actions you take in the sequel only compound this feeling of personalization. By the finale you'll have made so many decisions – ranging from simple things like whether you play as a male or female all the way up to those governing life or death – that the result is a game that is yours and yours alone. Choices you made in Mass Effect 1 come back to remind you of past good deeds or injustices. Decisions made here affect the final outcome. Reminders that everything you do will be reflected in Mass Effect 3 are everywhere, adding further drama to every conversation. Things you say and do actually matter, and that's an incredible sensation to get from a videogame.

Even if you didn't play Mass Effect 1, this game is worth playing. If you're not importing a character, BioWare simply makes some of the decisions from Mass Effect 1 for you. It's slightly less dramatic and the story here is often references events in the first game, which might make some bits less thrilling for novices. There are revelations and tantalizing plot twists that Mass Effect veterans will go crazy for. These same moments simply won't carry the same weight with those hopping in for part two. It's a bit of a Catch-22 for the designers tasked with the impossible job of pleasing newcomers while still pushing the limits."

I agree but for different reasons. Sure it makes the game more involving if you play the first and transfer your character over, but I don't think not being able to do this is going to ruin that experience. Bioware will give PS3 users what they need to know about ME before starting ME2.

My reason for thinking it's criminal, is because I think the ME is the better game, and that it's actually an RPG. I enjoyed ME much more than I did ME2.

It's a testament to the game that it's still so excellent even if you didn't play ME1.

However, ME2's experience is diminished by not having played ME1, not just watched a recap movie or read a wiki. The interaction and the small choices really color the overall feel of the series.

The picture of your love interest on your desk has little to no impact without the context of the first game where you actually had to spend some time and effort to build that relationship.

Saren is some abstract foot note in ME2 without full the impact of dealing with him in the first.

The feeling of attachment to your crewmates and the sense of nostalgia when you meet up with them again... a good part of that is lost without playing ME1.

Do these things make the game unplayable? No. Do they affect the overall plot? Not really. But these seemingly small things make the whole Mass Effect feel a little more organic and impactful. I really hope that ME1 gets released on the PS3.

ME1 is a AA game from what 2007? It was a very meh game. ME2 was the real leap forward. ME1 would have kept a lot of people away from the second. Most of you claiming otherwise don't remember how flawed it was. It hasn't aged well at all.

ME1 is a AA game from what 2007? It was a very meh game. ME2 was the real leap forward. ME1 would have kept a lot of people away from the second. Most of you claiming otherwise don't remember how flawed it was. It hasn't aged well at all.

Gamtrix

i replayed ME1 right before ME2 (i even left my copy of ME2 unopened for a couple weeks until i did 2 playthroughs of ME1, in order to get every achievement)... it was great. The only thing that really sucked was the MAKO, but you could skip that easily if you arent a completionist.

There were annoyances like the inventory system, ill grant you that. But ME1 was a great game... maybe you dont remember well.

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"]

ME1 is a AA game from what 2007? It was a very meh game. ME2 was the real leap forward. ME1 would have kept a lot of people away from the second. Most of you claiming otherwise don't remember how flawed it was. It hasn't aged well at all.

markinthedark

i replayed ME1 right before ME2 (i even left my copy of ME2 unopened for a couple weeks until i did 2 playthroughs of ME1, in order to get every achievement)... it was great. The only thing that really sucked was the MAKO, but you could skip that easily if you arent a completionist.

There were annoyances like the inventory system, ill grant you that. But ME1 was a great game... maybe you dont remember well.

[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"]

ME1 is a AA game from what 2007? It was a very meh game. ME2 was the real leap forward. ME1 would have kept a lot of people away from the second. Most of you claiming otherwise don't remember how flawed it was. It hasn't aged well at all.

Gamtrix

i replayed ME1 right before ME2 (i even left my copy of ME2 unopened for a couple weeks until i did 2 playthroughs of ME1, in order to get every achievement)... it was great. The only thing that really sucked was the MAKO, but you could skip that easily if you arent a completionist.

There were annoyances like the inventory system, ill grant you that. But ME1 was a great game... maybe you dont remember well.

Opinions are great. And you're welcome to yours.

But the general concensus is that ME1 is a great game that, in the balance of things, got more right than it got wrong.