I think it's safe to assume that Ps3 is the best console this gen

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#51 foxhound_fox
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That still doesnt justify your arguement.... using another's opinion to establish your point is odd.TrapJak
What argument? The TC said he thinks the PS3 is the best console. Many other people would disagree (and scores are just one of many different sources if opinion that do disagree). I find it hilarious people think I'm using scores as objective fact. This is a discussion board, not a fact debating board.
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#53 KBFloYd
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Wii>>>>>>Life

wii wins

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#54 AzatiS
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It is yes. Aside the slow start and disasterous price / lack of games the first two years , after that shock PS3 went strong and now is stronger than ever. Solid hardware , BD tends to be a standard now and HD gaming is almost as well , full support with many exclusives and AAA multis , extra content ( like MK kratos for example ) and a bright future even if its the dead third in this race which means far greater value vs competition when Wii for example is almost dead. If i would buy a consome right now , PS3 would be my choice ..Easily.
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#55 kuraimen
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Hmmmm... let me check... hmmm lets see... well I... ok wait a minute... uh hu.... seems right from here... I think that... yep! it is.
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#56 TrapJak
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[QUOTE="TrapJak"]That still doesnt justify your arguement.... using another's opinion to establish your point is odd.foxhound_fox
What argument? The TC said he thinks the PS3 is the best console. Many other people would disagree (and scores are just one of many different sources if opinion that do disagree). I find it hilarious people think I'm using scores as objective fact. This is a discussion board, not a fact debating board.

But you said PS3 is worst due to the scores the games recieved.
And yet it has the least amount of highly rated games... both on Gamerankings and Gamespot. The Wii and PC have more exclusives, the 360 has more overall totals and the PS3 is just last in everything. I don't see that as "best" I see that as "worst."foxhound_fox
See? Just because the 360/PC/Wii has more doesnt make it better.

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#57 AzatiS
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Wii>>>>>>Life

wii wins

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Wii is already dead , and its just sad when its install base is so huge vs X360/Ps3 which makes it.... a fraud if you ask me.
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#58 TrapJak
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[QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

Wii>>>>>>Life

wii wins

AzatiS

Wii is already dead , and its just sad when its install base is so huge vs X360/Ps3 which makes it.... a fraud if you ask me.

....What?

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#59 _SWAG_
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i agree ten thousand percent. the ps3 is the best, make a poll and you will see **

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#60 Genesis-X
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[QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

Wii>>>>>>Life

wii wins

AzatiS

Wii is already dead , and its just sad when its install base is so huge vs X360/Ps3 which makes it.... a fraud if you ask me.

Didn't the Wii get a AAAE recently? Yes.. yes it did.

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#61 commonfate
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i agree ten thousand percent. the ps3 is the best, make a poll and you will see **

_SWAG_

That won't make it true that will just make it widely accepted :?

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#62 g0ddyX
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PS3 has always been best in terms.. of well.. everything.

360 is still great and its always neck and neck.
That just makes developers push more and make more better games. A bit of competition doesnt hurt.

Wii has a massive consumer base, but one or two great games doesnt do it justice.
Are you really gonna play cod:black ops on it when you have a ps3 or 360?
Its had its moment.

Next gen systems should be shown end of next year.

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#63 PoindeJ
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There is no "best". For me, there are way more games on the Wii that I have had fun playing than would even interest me on the PS360.

Also, you can't "assume" something that's subjective. "Best" is not a very descriptive word. You need a rationale for why something is "good" or "bad" first.

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#64 foxhound_fox
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See? Just because the 360/PC/Wii has more doesnt make it better.TrapJak
Mmm... gotta love opinions. At least I have a reason to think the PS3 might be the worst.
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#65 TrapJak
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[QUOTE="TrapJak"]See? Just because the 360/PC/Wii has more doesnt make it better.foxhound_fox
Mmm... gotta love opinions. At least I have a reason to think the PS3 might be the worst.

True, but your first post made it seem like the PS3 was factually worst. Misunderstanding......or THE TRUTH?

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#66 Ly_the_Fairy
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It's the best in the same sense that the Gamecube was the best last gen.

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#67 Gotham-Calls
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yep ps3 all day but the wii is up there with it. i could not decide between the two. but the xbox 360 is easily last with the so called bigger library and trash they call exclusives.

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#68 FoolwithaLancer
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yep ps3 all day but the wii is up there with it. i could not decide between the two. but the xbox 360 is easily last with the so called bigger library and trash they call exclusives.

Gotham-Calls

Nothing Trash about Halo 3 Reach Forza 3 Gears 2 and PGR 4. Oh wait, of course you hate them, there on a console you don't own and have a personal grudge against :lol:

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#69 Phazevariance
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PC > 360 >> ps3 >>>>>>> Wii

It's safe to say that 360 is the best console.

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#70 lamprey263
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I like the Xbox 360 a lot more than my PS3, and I like my PS3 a lot more than my Wii.
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#71 LeonSykes10
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I think its safe to say that best console this gen is still pretty much up to personal preference.. Grow up will ya.?

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#72 pc-ps360
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it's a system that combines both the quality of hardware and software, great exclusive titles and a fairly big library. the 360 has a bigger library, but it just won't come close to what the ps3 as a whole has to offer.

the only real disappointment was the Wii, though, mainly because of its non-hd approach, which I still can't understand why they didn't equip a console with an at least decent graphics card, even if not as powerful as the 360's, but the Wii in HD would have made a whole difference and would probably have also effected the perception on the quality of the console itself and its exclusives, which in my opinion are unmatched, but playing them in SD on a HD Tv really makes you scream "why??".

so this gen, for me it goes:

1. ps3

2. 360

3. wii

what says you?

pitty8982

i say

1. 360

2. wii

3. ps3

the world say according to sales

1. wii

2. 360

3. ps3

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#73 Pokemon266
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i agree and xbox is last
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#74 SecretPolice
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I think the only way that could be true is if you mainly use your game console to play Br movies. :o

Otherwise, 360 FTW. :P

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#75 Plagueless
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[QUOTE="Gotham-Calls"]

yep ps3 all day but the wii is up there with it. i could not decide between the two. but the xbox 360 is easily last with the so called bigger library and trash they call exclusives.

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Nothing Trash about Halo 3 Reach Forza 3 Gears 2 and PGR 4. Oh wait, of course you hate them, there on a console you don't own and have a personal grudge against :lol:

IMO I think all these recent flame threads against 360 are because cows know that The biggest exclusive of the year comes out in two weeks, that it will sell more than all of theirs, and there is nothing they can do about it. Because 360 gamers always buy heaps of their exclusives.
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#76 zekere
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Absolutely, the only thing the 360 has is some Forza, some more Forza, lots of Haloes and Gears. Oh, and arcade games!!! oh, and ONE LITTLE EXCEPTION called Alan Wake, which nobody played.

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#77 Solid_Tango
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Gaming wise? yes Sales wise ? no I love my ps3 and i own all 3 +gaming pc. Altho nothing compares to PC gaming, the ps3 is by far the best console this gen
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#78 mems_1224
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meh, most of their exclusives are forgettable. resistance and killlzone aren't that good, infamous is good but has 0 replay value and really the only games i like are uncharted, little big planet and mlb the show. the only other reason i use it is as a blu ray player but even then it hardly gets used. XBL alone puts the 360 over the top for me for best console this gen, PSN is just terrible. might as well not offer online
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#79 romans828_2002
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Absolutely, the only thing the 360 has is some Forza, some more Forza, lots of Haloes and Gears. Oh, and arcade games!!! oh, and ONE LITTLE EXCEPTION called Alan Wake, which nobody played.

zekere
I played it, and it wasn't all that. On the other hand, I have a pile of games for my 360 that aren't Halo, Forza, or Gears. Have you looked at a 360 sales rack, ever? It typically has many more games that the PS3.
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#80 todd2r
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Another xbox hater thread on cowspot confirmed.
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#81 Malta_1980
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hhmm well claiming such statement if you're on your own surrounded by thousands of 360/Wii fanboys wouldn't be 'safe' lol

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#82 ianuilliam
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Totally subjective with all the tangible facts (console sales, software sales, online component, etc.) going against your (arguably bad) assumption.

KC_Hokie

Console sales: PS3 sells more than 360 every year, and has sold at a faster rate (took 9 months less than 360 to hit 50 million).

Software sales: I always see this claim, yet I never see proof offered. Can you provide official numbers from MS's fiscal reports on quarterly or yearly total units of x360 software sales?

online component: What tangible facts are you referring to? The only tangible facts I'm aware of when it comes to Live vs PSN are 1-PSN allows you to access the online component of games for free vs Live charges you $60 a year to access the online component, and 2-PSN has 77+ million accounts capable of playing online, but no way of determining how many of those are duplicate accounts or PSP vs PS3, etc, while 360 has 35+ million accounts, an unknown number of which can actually play online, and no way of determining how many of those are duplicate accounts or accounts created without a 360 (GFWL, Live on WP7, etc).

But here's some tangible facts for you:

AAAAE:

360- 0

PS3- 1

AAAE:

360- 8

PS3- 8

AAE:

360- 16

PS3- 19

AE:

360- 19

PS3- 20

AA+ exclusives (SW metagame):

360- 24

PS3- 28

Total A+ exclusives:

360- 43

PS3- 48

The funny part is that the one with more quality exclusives is the one that's been out a year less.

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360 has... More high scoring games More full fleshed online service Best multiplats Most online game and movie content Most exclusive DLC More hardware and software sales Somehow PS3 fans tend to ignore these facts. Only on system wars is the PS3 "winning", I swear you guys live in another world.
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#84 coasterguy65
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Oh look the cows agree...everyone else not so much. What a surprise.

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#85 LustForSoul
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Absolutely not safe to say. Not in SW.
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360 has... More high scoring games More full fleshed online service Best multiplats Most online game and movie content Most exclusive DLC More hardware and software sales Somehow PS3 fans tend to ignore these facts. Only on system wars is the PS3 "winning", I swear you guys live in another world. Miketheman83
More high scoring games? Sure, a few. Mostly due to PS2 ports. Also, it includes games that are on 360 and PS3 but GS only reviewed the 360 version.

More full fleshed online service? Why, because of cross-game chat? PSN vs Live will always be subjective. They both have features the other doesn't. The biggest difference is that if all you want to do is play games or watch netflix, one chages you $60 a year, and the other doesn't.

Best multiplats? What is this, 2006? Almost all games look/perform identically, or so close that it can't be determined under normal play conditions and takes counting pixels in side-by-side comparisons one frame at a time. On the other hand, over th last year or two, a whole lot of multiplats have been including extra content at no extra cost on the PS3 version. I'll take games that are "better" because of extra content that I can actually play over "better" because a website tells me one version has three more pixels that I can't even see.

Please elaborate on most online game and movie content. And most exclusive dlc. Is that timed exclusive dlc? Or do you mean things like Knights of the Nine not being available for purchase on PSN, since it was included in the regular edition of Oblivion on PS3?

More hardware sales and software sales? Yes. 360 has a few more units sold. It's been on the market about 20% longer, but only has about 6% more sales. I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that PS3 has higher annual sales? As for software sales, I still can't seem to find 360's worldwide units of software sales anywhere in their fiscal reports. Could you link to it?

I swear... Whatever happened to the days back in 2005-2008 where people just wanted to talk about high scoring exclusives? Oh wait... I think I know what happened...

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#87 zekere
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And what did the 360 get this year? Dirt3, Crysis 2 and Dead Space2 . Anything else...nope... oh wait, the PS3 got these too...and Killzone3, Infamous2 and Resistance3. Xbox360 gets 2 exclusives each year, of which one is a Halo...

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#88 WilliamRLBaker
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Or we could assume that all the platforms have something to offer?

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#89 marklarmer
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I swear... Whatever happened to the days back in 2005-2008 where people just wanted to talk about high scoring exclusives? Oh wait... I think I know what happened...

ianuilliam

after reading some of your older forum posts i find that rather hypocritical; when you were clearly one of the people making constant excuses regarding the lack of PS3 exclusives, including bringing up PS2 games, multiplats, PSN games and reviews not being important :|

and now the PS3 is ahead in high scoring exclusives funnily thats all you want to talk about.........

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#90 Maroxad
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Some people prefer the 360, others prefer the Wii, others will agree with you. I think that Wii>PS3>360.

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#91 LazySloth718
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PS3 > Wii > 360

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#92 lbjkurono23
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Or we could assume that all the platforms have something to offer?

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Way too fair :P

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#93 incuensuocha
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You guys must be so bored. Why are you discussing this to hell and back? He was obviously making a troll statement. I knew you all would fall for it.percech
So if someone gives an opinion that you disagree with it's trolling. But I'm sure if this thread was called "why the 360 is the best" there would be no problem with that, and it sure wouldn't be trolling. Guess what, a lot of people prefer the PS3 and as much as it must pain you to accept it, you're gonna have to deal with it. I personally think both consoles are awesome and do certain things better than the other. I do put the PS3 slightly ahead of the 360 because I think the exclusive library is better, but otherwise they're just about even.
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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]360 has... More high scoring games More full fleshed online service Best multiplats Most online game and movie content Most exclusive DLC More hardware and software sales Somehow PS3 fans tend to ignore these facts. Only on system wars is the PS3 "winning", I swear you guys live in another world. ianuilliam

More high scoring games? Sure, a few. Mostly due to PS2 ports. Also, it includes games that are on 360 and PS3 but GS only reviewed the 360 version.

More full fleshed online service? Why, because of cross-game chat? PSN vs Live will always be subjective. They both have features the other doesn't. The biggest difference is that if all you want to do is play games or watch netflix, one chages you $60 a year, and the other doesn't.

Best multiplats? What is this, 2006? Almost all games look/perform identically, or so close that it can't be determined under normal play conditions and takes counting pixels in side-by-side comparisons one frame at a time. On the other hand, over th last year or two, a whole lot of multiplats have been including extra content at no extra cost on the PS3 version. I'll take games that are "better" because of extra content that I can actually play over "better" because a website tells me one version has three more pixels that I can't even see.

Please elaborate on most online game and movie content. And most exclusive dlc. Is that timed exclusive dlc? Or do you mean things like Knights of the Nine not being available for purchase on PSN, since it was included in the regular edition of Oblivion on PS3?

More hardware sales and software sales? Yes. 360 has a few more units sold. It's been on the market about 20% longer, but only has about 6% more sales. I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that PS3 has higher annual sales? As for software sales, I still can't seem to find 360's worldwide units of software sales anywhere in their fiscal reports. Could you link to it?

I swear... Whatever happened to the days back in 2005-2008 where people just wanted to talk about high scoring exclusives? Oh wait... I think I know what happened...

On Metacritic and Gamespot the 360 has more high scoring games. FACT. Lets not pretend that good games dont make a GAME console good.

Live is better than PSN. More features, more integration, faster download speeds, more game content. FACT. Whether you think that is worth the price or not is up to you.

Most multiplats perform better on the 360 and this will never change. The 360 is the lead platform for multiplats because it has a larger install base and its easier to develop for and its nobodys fault but Sonys for making their console hard to develop for and getting ports of 360 games.

Live has more games and more movies on demand then PSN does. FACT. Microsoft pays for exclusive and timed exclusive content to make their customers happy. Sony rarely does this.

The fact that the 360 is still in the lead on the hardware and software side of things just shows you how bad sony messed up this gen based on their unbelievable following from the PS2. Keep telling yourself that the PS3 isnt a failure, it wasnt even competition for the 360 until a year ago...and this gen is almost over.

Just because the PS3 may have released more exclusive games so far this year doesnt mean the PS3 is all of a sudden winning, its been losing for four years on that front. People dont ONLY play exclusives. Can I play Splinter Cell, Left 4 Dead, Witcher 2 on the PS3? No. These games are a HUGE advantage for the 360.

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#95 JohnnyWPSP
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I agree.

PS3>Wii>>>>>>>360

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#96 Cow4ever
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]And yet it has the least amount of highly rated games... both on Gamerankings and Gamespot. The Wii and PC have more exclusives, the 360 has more overall totals and the PS3 is just last in everything. I don't see that as "best" I see that as "worst."

Nope its top 25 games has a higher average rating than the 360. On MC though.
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#98 Cow4ever
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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]360 has... More high scoring games More full fleshed online service Best multiplats Most online game and movie content Most exclusive DLC More hardware and software sales Somehow PS3 fans tend to ignore these facts. Only on system wars is the PS3 "winning", I swear you guys live in another world.

1. Look above you 2. Not really. And you have to sacrifice a full retail game every year for it. 3. Not the ones that matters. Portal 2, LA Noire > Ghost busters. And the advantage is slim now. 4. 5. Like? 6. So?
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#99 commonfate
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[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]360 has... More high scoring games More full fleshed online service Best multiplats Most online game and movie content Most exclusive DLC More hardware and software sales Somehow PS3 fans tend to ignore these facts. Only on system wars is the PS3 "winning", I swear you guys live in another world. Miketheman83

More high scoring games? Sure, a few. Mostly due to PS2 ports. Also, it includes games that are on 360 and PS3 but GS only reviewed the 360 version.

More full fleshed online service? Why, because of cross-game chat? PSN vs Live will always be subjective. They both have features the other doesn't. The biggest difference is that if all you want to do is play games or watch netflix, one chages you $60 a year, and the other doesn't.

Best multiplats? What is this, 2006? Almost all games look/perform identically, or so close that it can't be determined under normal play conditions and takes counting pixels in side-by-side comparisons one frame at a time. On the other hand, over th last year or two, a whole lot of multiplats have been including extra content at no extra cost on the PS3 version. I'll take games that are "better" because of extra content that I can actually play over "better" because a website tells me one version has three more pixels that I can't even see.

Please elaborate on most online game and movie content. And most exclusive dlc. Is that timed exclusive dlc? Or do you mean things like Knights of the Nine not being available for purchase on PSN, since it was included in the regular edition of Oblivion on PS3?

More hardware sales and software sales? Yes. 360 has a few more units sold. It's been on the market about 20% longer, but only has about 6% more sales. I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that PS3 has higher annual sales? As for software sales, I still can't seem to find 360's worldwide units of software sales anywhere in their fiscal reports. Could you link to it?

I swear... Whatever happened to the days back in 2005-2008 where people just wanted to talk about high scoring exclusives? Oh wait... I think I know what happened...

On Metacritic and Gamespot the 360 has more high scoring games. FACT. Lets not pretend that good games dont make a GAME console good.

Live is better than PSN. More features, more integration, faster download speeds, more game content. FACT. Whether you think that is worth the price or not is up to you.

Most multiplats perform better on the 360 and this will never change. The 360 is the lead platform for multiplats because it has a larger install base and its easier to develop for and its nobodys fault but Sonys for making their console hard to develop for and getting ports of 360 games. Live has more games and more movies on demand then PSN does. FACT.

Microsoft pays for exclusive and timed exclusive content to make their customers happy. Sony rarely does this. The fact that the 360 is still in the lead on the hardware and software side of things just shows you how bad sony messed up this gen based on their unbelievable following from the PS2. Keep telling yourself that the PS3 isnt a failure, it was even competition for the 360 until a year ago...and this gen is almost over.

You are citing popular opinion as fact. As satisfying as it can feel to know that x game was received critically well, you know that other people aren't doing the thinking for you when you play the game (at least I hope they don't). Surely people are allowed to think for themselves when playing x game? It may irritate you that others like the PS3 exclusives over the 360 but value is found in the eyes of the customer, not what critics think. Has there not been any game that was reviewed poorly or even average that you thought was fantastic? Did you try to convince yourself that you shouldn't like the game just because it was received poorly? I surely hope you didn't.

While I do agree that Live is better than PSN in almost every way imaginable, aside from cost, it is still a matter of opinion and preference when it comes down to the deciding factor. Where you find value in Xbox Live others may not. I know a couple of PS3 owners who never play online games or there are some who do, who just solely use PSN to play online games, without ever purchasing anything from the Store. Would you still tell them that it's a fact that Live is better?

People are still using this argument? Last noticeable title to really be the better purchase was Bayonetta... in which it has been patched to be on the same level now of the 360 version. There are some older games out there that do perform much better on 360 but that time is no longer. Nowadays there are plenty of games that release more or less on the same scale and if there are differences as to which performs better, be it 360 or PS3, they are minuscule. Some of the same games I owned on 360, I now own on PS3 and I still can not tell a difference. Only when I go on forums and do I see screenshots being closely scrutinized is there a difference, a difference that is unnoticed when actually playing. If you prefer superior multiplats then I suggest investing in a good PC. Then you can really see a difference.

Okay??? +1 to 360 then. It gets timed DLC. Why do people still use sales as an argument? Are you by any chance a Microsoft stockholder? Do you keep up with NPD charts? If yes to those questions then I can understand that mentality. But if you're a customer then what does it matter whether or not sells more? Is their some secret joy in knowing others share your purchases? I mean why not just sell all your 360 stuff and go buy a Wii and a load of games for it? If knowledge of sales make you happy then surely that is the best choice for you.

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#100 piranha_inc
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Yes and No PS3 is the most powerful of all three Multiplatform games look better on the 360, even if it is slightly better, most games are multiplat right now I have no interest on PS3 exclusives, maybe 2 or 3 but not enough to get one again Most of the good games are shooters, ps3 controls s*ck for shooters Wii = fail I'm very happy with my 360, infact I just got a 360 slim to upgrade from my old 20GB pro