i think its safe to say u cant compare gran trurismo 5 with forza 3 anymore

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#1 Killmckillerkil
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its like comparing an apple to an orange maybeu can compare it to forza 4
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#2 Chris_Williams
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aren't they both racing sims? so why can't you?

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#3 SaltyMeatballs
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After seeing the awful Go-Kart gameplay, you might be right about apple to oranges.
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Um....Why?
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Good to see the 6 year wait for a new GT has driven it's fans so insane that they believe an unreleased game is better than multiple proven AAA games.
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#6 Killmckillerkil
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aren't they both racing sims? so why can't you?

Chris_Williams
well beacuse gt5 n forza 3 were supposed to come out at the same time like black ops and medal of honor but now gt5 is coming out a year later
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#7 Killmckillerkil
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Good to see the 6 year wait for a new GT has driven it's fans so insane that they believe an unreleased game is better than multiple proven AAA games.locopatho
hope ur not saying im a fan lol forza ftw
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#8 locopatho
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[QUOTE="locopatho"]Good to see the 6 year wait for a new GT has driven it's fans so insane that they believe an unreleased game is better than multiple proven AAA games.Killmckillerkil
hope ur not saying im a fan lol forza ftw

O i misunderstood completely, never mind.
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#9 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

aren't they both racing sims? so why can't you?

Killmckillerkil
well beacuse gt5 n forza 3 were supposed to come out at the same time like black ops and medal of honor but now gt5 is coming out a year later

oh, your just trying to do damage control just in case GT5 scores higher or is better received than forza, got ya
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#10 Master_ShakeXXX
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GT is the REAL driving sim, Forza is just a knockoff. It's a known fact that REAL car/racing enthusiasts choose the Gran Turismo series. That's something Forza can never claim.

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#11 Killmckillerkil
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[QUOTE="Killmckillerkil"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

aren't they both racing sims? so why can't you?

Chris_Williams
well beacuse gt5 n forza 3 were supposed to come out at the same time like black ops and medal of honor but now gt5 is coming out a year later

oh, your just trying to do damage control just in case GT5 scores higher or is better received than forza, got ya

i wouldnt mind forza scored great gt5 will just score because of the content but the driving physics are just boring an bland
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#12 racing1750
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GT is the REAL driving sim, Forza is just a knockoff. It's a known fact that REAL car/racing enthusiasts choose the Gran Turismo series. That's something Forza can never claim.

Master_ShakeXXX

Sony's mind trick seems to be working :o

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#13 YuriSH
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After seeing the awful Go-Kart gameplay, you might be right about apple to oranges.SaltyMeatballs
What is awful about it? haven't seen it yet, actually didn't know there was footage of it.
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#14 Master_ShakeXXX
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

GT is the REAL driving sim, Forza is just a knockoff. It's a known fact that REAL car/racing enthusiasts choose the Gran Turismo series. That's something Forza can never claim.

racing1750

Sony's mind trick seems to be working :o

Can't argue facts, man.

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#15 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="Killmckillerkil"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="Killmckillerkil"] well beacuse gt5 n forza 3 were supposed to come out at the same time like black ops and medal of honor but now gt5 is coming out a year later

oh, your just trying to do damage control just in case GT5 scores higher or is better received than forza, got ya

i wouldnt mind forza scored great gt5 will just score because of the content but the driving physics are just boring an bland

yeah because you built a time machine and jump 3 months ahead where you played gt5, lets just wait till it comes out before we say the driving physics are just boring an bland. my good sir
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#16 Fried_Shrimp
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[QUOTE="racing1750"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

GT is the REAL driving sim, Forza is just a knockoff. It's a known fact that REAL car/racing enthusiasts choose the Gran Turismo series. That's something Forza can never claim.

Master_ShakeXXX

Sony's mind trick seems to be working :o

Can't argue facts, man.

True, but what you said isn't a fact it's an opinion.
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#17 racing1750
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[QUOTE="racing1750"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

GT is the REAL driving sim, Forza is just a knockoff. It's a known fact that REAL car/racing enthusiasts choose the Gran Turismo series. That's something Forza can never claim.

Master_ShakeXXX

Sony's mind trick seems to be working :o

Can't argue facts, man.

lol, ok.
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="racing1750"] Sony's mind trick seems to be working :o

Fried_Shrimp

Can't argue facts, man.

True, but what you said isn't a fact it's an opinion.

Actually no, Its actually the real driving simulator.

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#19 Keiji993
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After seeing the awful Go-Kart gameplay, you might be right about apple to oranges.SaltyMeatballs

Your saying the mode is awful because the guy playing isnt good? nice logic :|

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#20 moose_knuckler
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GT is the REAL driving sim, Forza is just a knockoff. It's a known fact that REAL car/racing enthusiasts choose the Gran Turismo series. That's something Forza can never claim.

Master_ShakeXXX
*Sony exec sitting at his desk counting money* One for me, one for Master_ShakeXXX. One for me, one for Master_ShakeXXX. ......
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#21 cloudff7tm
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GT is the REAL driving sim, Forza is just a knockoff. It's a known fact that REAL car/racing enthusiasts choose the Gran Turismo series. That's something Forza can never claim.

Master_ShakeXXX

Really, I can't tell if you are serious are not.

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#22 readingfc_1
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GT is the REAL driving sim, Forza is just a knockoff. It's a known fact that REAL car/racing enthusiasts choose the Gran Turismo series. That's something Forza can never claim.

Master_ShakeXXX
They choose it and then wait for it to come out. In the meantime, Xbox users are playing a fantastic driving sim in Forza 2/3
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#23 bobbetybob
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GT is the REAL driving sim, Forza is just a knockoff. It's a known fact that REAL car/racing enthusiasts choose the Gran Turismo series. That's something Forza can never claim.

Master_ShakeXXX
It's also a known fact that REAL car/racing enthusiasts are too busy with REAL cars to play a game. And when they do play games I'm sure they're unlikely to care about petty fanboyish arguments and just bought whichever system their friends have.
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#24 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]After seeing the awful Go-Kart gameplay, you might be right about apple to oranges.YuriSH
What is awful about it? haven't seen it yet, actually didn't know there was footage of it.

It's "WTF did they add this for?" boring. I saw a video on Gametrailers.
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#25 Killmckillerkil
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

GT is the REAL driving sim, Forza is just a knockoff. It's a known fact that REAL car/racing enthusiasts choose the Gran Turismo series. That's something Forza can never claim.

racing1750

Sony's mind trick seems to be working :o

lol agreed
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#26 Eggimannd
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

GT is the REAL driving sim, Forza is just a knockoff. It's a known fact that REAL car/racing enthusiasts choose the Gran Turismo series. That's something Forza can never claim.

cloudff7tm

Really, I can't tell if you are serious are not.

I know the guy is a fanboy from previous posts I've seen of him but in this case he's pretty much right. You can easily prefer Forza's gameplay to Gran Turismo's but there's no arguing in that Gran Turismo is a far superior car simulator. Forze is much more of an arcade driving game than a simulator.

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#27 Killmckillerkil
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After seeing the awful Go-Kart gameplay, you might be right about apple to oranges.SaltyMeatballs
it looks like childs play i mean ur supposed to go fast why do u think they put ferraris and lambos in there games
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#28 icyseanfitz
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eh i dont what ye guys are smoking but forza 3 is the best driving simulator on any console to this day we shall see whether gt5 will surpass it but it has a fairly big challenge ahead of it seeing as forza 3 got great reviews across the boards 9.5 here on GS

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#29 YuriSH
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[QUOTE="YuriSH"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]After seeing the awful Go-Kart gameplay, you might be right about apple to oranges.SaltyMeatballs
What is awful about it? haven't seen it yet, actually didn't know there was footage of it.

It's "WTF did they add this for?" boring. I saw a video on Gametrailers.

Oh really? To be honest, the moment the rumor started I just figured it'd be something to mess around with friends with, but why not just go go-kart riding outside with friends,lol too bad none near me.
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#30 Killmckillerkil
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[QUOTE="cloudff7tm"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

GT is the REAL driving sim, Forza is just a knockoff. It's a known fact that REAL car/racing enthusiasts choose the Gran Turismo series. That's something Forza can never claim.

Eggimannd

Really, I can't tell if you are serious are not.

I know the guy is a fanboy from previous posts I've seen of him but in this case he's pretty much right. You can easily prefer Forza's gameplay to Gran Turismo's but there's no arguing in that Gran Turismo is a far superior car simulator. Forze is much more of an arcade driving game than a simulator.

forza is so simulation that they had to get rid of the arcade mode in forza 3 lol and nice pic do u guys just have folders full of these pics to quote noobish posts lmao
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#31 Snugenz
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[QUOTE="cloudff7tm"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

GT is the REAL driving sim, Forza is just a knockoff. It's a known fact that REAL car/racing enthusiasts choose the Gran Turismo series. That's something Forza can never claim.

Eggimannd

Really, I can't tell if you are serious are not.

I know the guy is a fanboy from previous posts I've seen of him but in this case he's pretty much right. You can easily prefer Forza's gameplay to Gran Turismo's but there's no arguing in that Gran Turismo is a far superior car simulator. Forze is much more of an arcade driving game than a simulator.

Thats not true at all, in any way.

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#32 icyseanfitz
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[QUOTE="cloudff7tm"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

GT is the REAL driving sim, Forza is just a knockoff. It's a known fact that REAL car/racing enthusiasts choose the Gran Turismo series. That's something Forza can never claim.

Eggimannd

Really, I can't tell if you are serious are not.

I know the guy is a fanboy from previous posts I've seen of him but in this case he's pretty much right. You can easily prefer Forza's gameplay to Gran Turismo's but there's no arguing in that Gran Turismo is a far superior car simulator. Forze is much more of an arcade driving game than a simulator.

arcade :roll: seriously it has one of the most advanced car physics engines ever created (even has tyre deformation) GT5 will be great but its physics could very well be a lot worse than forzas

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#33 cloudff7tm
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[QUOTE="cloudff7tm"]

Really, I can't tell if you are serious are not.

Eggimannd

I know the guy is a fanboy from previous posts I've seen of him but in this case he's pretty much right. You can easily prefer Forza's gameplay to Gran Turismo's but there's no arguing in that Gran Turismo is a far superior car simulator. Forze is much more of an arcade driving game than a simulator.

I don't even like racing games like GT and Forza, so GT is superior for all I know, but Forza doesn't seem like a arcade driving game. It looks like it's just as much as a simulator as GT is. I heard GT didn't have damage until 5. What kind of simulator doesn't have damage?

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#34 Master_ShakeXXX
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[QUOTE="cloudff7tm"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

GT is the REAL driving sim, Forza is just a knockoff. It's a known fact that REAL car/racing enthusiasts choose the Gran Turismo series. That's something Forza can never claim.

Eggimannd

Really, I can't tell if you are serious are not.

I know the guy is a fanboy from previous posts I've seen of him but in this case he's pretty much right. You can easily prefer Forza's gameplay to Gran Turismo's but there's no arguing in that Gran Turismo is a far superior car simulator. Forze is much more of an arcade driving game than a simulator.

AHEM! I happen to be the most unbiased person in system wars!

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#35 Master_ShakeXXX
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

GT is the REAL driving sim, Forza is just a knockoff. It's a known fact that REAL car/racing enthusiasts choose the Gran Turismo series. That's something Forza can never claim.

cloudff7tm

Really, I can't tell if you are serious are not.

While I wasn't completely serious in calling Forza a knockoff, GT actually IS the preferred game by car and racing enthusiasts. Don't even try to argue it, man.

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#36 Blaze-Agent
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[QUOTE="cloudff7tm"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

GT is the REAL driving sim, Forza is just a knockoff. It's a known fact that REAL car/racing enthusiasts choose the Gran Turismo series. That's something Forza can never claim.

Master_ShakeXXX

Really, I can't tell if you are serious are not.

While I wasn't completely serious in calling Forza a knockoff, GT actually IS the preferred game by car and racing enthusiasts. Don't even try to argue it, man.

That is true. Thats why i laugh when people talk about scores when its all subjetive

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Both suck, a game thats fun is more fun ;p. Dirt 2 PC also has better graphics anyway.

Gameplay>fanboys. The truth is always revealed.

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#38 johnnyblazed88
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GT is the REAL driving sim, Forza is just a knockoff. It's a known fact that REAL car/racing enthusiasts choose the Gran Turismo series. That's something Forza can never claim.

Master_ShakeXXX

it was first but you cant deny forza has been the best since it came out

GT hasnt even come out with a game in 5 yrs

9.5 proves forza is a undeniablygreat game only GT5 can match(score wise atleast)cuz it aint gettin a 10

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#39 cloudff7tm
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While I wasn't completely serious in calling Forza a knockoff, GT actually IS the preferred game by car and racing enthusiasts. Don't even try to argue it, man.

Master_ShakeXXX

lol, maybe so, who knows. Wait, how do you know that? Because of how much it sales?

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#40 DarkGamer007
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[QUOTE="racing1750"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

GT is the REAL driving sim, Forza is just a knockoff. It's a known fact that REAL car/racing enthusiasts choose the Gran Turismo series. That's something Forza can never claim.

Master_ShakeXXX

Sony's mind trick seems to be working :o

Can't argue facts, man.

Apparently you aren't agureing them either, what you said was purely subjective.

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#41 icyseanfitz
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if anyone here really loves the GT series i would strongly recommend that ye at least try forza 3 with a steering wheel instead of just bashing it, and btw if GT5 isnt better than forza 3 (which will have been out a year and two months before gt5) there is something wrong at poly i mean they have been working on it like 6-7 years (by release time)

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#42 johnnyblazed88
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if anyone here really loves the GT series i would strongly recommend that ye at least try forza 3 with a steering wheel instead of just bashing it, and btw if GT5 isnt better than forza 3 (which will have been out a year and two months before gt5) there is something wrong at poly i mean they have been working on it like 6-7 years (by release time)

icyseanfitz

they been busy playing forza lol

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#43 Master_ShakeXXX
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

While I wasn't completely serious in calling Forza a knockoff, GT actually IS the preferred game by car and racing enthusiasts. Don't even try to argue it, man.

cloudff7tm

lol, maybe so, who knows. Wait, how do you know that? Because of how much it sales?

Gear heads (racing enthusiasts) will always go for the most realistic and complete racing game experience, which GT offers. The series as a whole selling 55 mil pretty much backs this.

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are there people here who actually think forza can match gt5 in realism?? That's forza's edge. Forza is the choice of gamers, and gt5 is the choice of car enthusiasts. That's not disparaging GT5 either. Video games don't have to be ALL gameplay. There are other kinds of appeal you can have in your interactive entertainment
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#45 Couth_
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Gear heads (racing enthusiasts) will always go for the most realistic and complete racing game experience, which GT offers. The series as a whole selling 55 mil pretty much backs this.

Master_ShakeXXX

Lol Gearheads play PC sims.. GTR, rFactor, iRacing etc... GT and Forza are both feature packed racing games, not sims... Casuals and people who like cars play GT and Forza.. Don't get it twisted...

are there people here who actually think forza can match gt5 in realism?? That's forza's edge.GunSmith1_basic
That's a soft edge it has there.

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#46 icyseanfitz
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are there people here who actually think forza can match gt5 in realism?? That's forza's edge. Forza is the choice of gamers, and gt5 is the choice of car enthusiasts. That's not disparaging GT5 either. Video games don't have to be ALL gameplay. There are other kinds of appeal you can have in your interactive entertainmentGunSmith1_basic

are you saying forza isnt as realistic as GT5? (which isnt even out yet) get someone who loves arcade racers and give them forza 3 without any assists and tell them to play, ive actually done this and they generally cant stand the game as its not an arcade racer even in the slightest, Forza 3 is currently the best racing sim on any console ever created (tech wise and gameplay wise) also im crazy about cars and can tell you that in forza cars handle very similar to how cars actually handle, also id like someone to point out to me what isnt realistic or what is arcadey in forza 3 please

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#47 Master_ShakeXXX
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]Gear heads (racing enthusiasts) will always go for the most realistic and complete racing game experience, which GT offers. The series as a whole selling 55 mil pretty much backs this.

Couth_

Lol Gearheads play PC sims.. GTR, rFactor, iRacing etc... GT and Forza are both feature packed racing games, not sims... Casuals and people who like cars play GT and Forza.. Don't get it twisted...

are there people here who actually think forza can match gt5 in realism?? That's forza's edge.GunSmith1_basic
That's a soft edge it has there.

GT is for casuals huh. That's news to me...

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#48 icyseanfitz
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]Gear heads (racing enthusiasts) will always go for the most realistic and complete racing game experience, which GT offers. The series as a whole selling 55 mil pretty much backs this.

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Lol Gearheads play PC sims.. GTR, rFactor, iRacing etc... GT and Forza are both feature packed racing games, not sims... Casuals and people who like cars play GT and Forza.. Don't get it twisted...

are there people here who actually think forza can match gt5 in realism?? That's forza's edge.GunSmith1_basic
That's a soft edge it has there.

have to agree if you want some proper racing sims get the pc ones listed above they are better sims than the console games although i do love the amount of cars and customization in the console games

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#49 Couth_
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[QUOTE="Couth_"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"] Lol Gearheads play PC sims.. GTR, rFactor, iRacing etc... GT and Forza are both feature packed racing games, not sims... Casuals and people who like cars play GT and Forza.. Don't get it twisted...

[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]are there people here who actually think forza can match gt5 in realism?? That's forza's edge.Master_ShakeXXX

That's a soft edge it has there.

GT is for casuals huh. That's news to me...

bout 50 millions worth.. That doesn't mean hardcore don't play it.. But if your thinking it has anything on realism compared to like iRacing.. lol gtfo
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[QUOTE="Couth_"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"] Lol Gearheads play PC sims.. GTR, rFactor, iRacing etc... GT and Forza are both feature packed racing games, not sims... Casuals and people who like cars play GT and Forza.. Don't get it twisted...

[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]are there people here who actually think forza can match gt5 in realism?? That's forza's edge.Master_ShakeXXX

That's a soft edge it has there.

GT is for casuals huh. That's news to me...

compared to those pc sims yes