I think the WiiU will be brilliant for hardcore gaming

Alot of people think the WiiU touch-screen controller is a gimmick that won't change gaming at all. I disagree. If you think that the WiiU touschscreen controller is useless, then you obviously haven't played Dragon Age: Origins, Fallout 3 or Oblivion on a standard PS3/360 controller. Trust me, I would absolutely love to use the WiiU controller as a full-sized map in any of these games (not a tiny map in the corner of the TV screen). Let's not forget how annoying it is to use the shoulder buttons to browse through your inventory or questlogs in these games. Pain in the neck, I say. I think the WiiU will make these games so much easier to play.

Oh yeah, you can use the WiiU touschscreen controller as a chatpad for multiplayer games like Call of Duty. Massive win right there

Of course, PC will always be the best when it comes inventory management, interfaces, typing etc. But as far as consoles go, I think Nintendo is right on the money.

Your thoughts? :)

Hardcore gamers play WRPGS on PCs

Wii U is just a toy just like Wii was

>WiiU

>hardcore

pick one

Hardcore gamers play WRPGS on PCs

Wii U is just a toy just like Wii was

Zurrur

I feel once the PS4 and Nextbox release with superior specs, the third party devs will switch their focus leaving the Wii U with the scraps, much like the Wii but to a lesser extent.

I won't be buying one for a long time, that's for sure.

Hardcore gamers play WRPGS on PCs

Wii U is just a toy just like Wii was

Zurrur

And what game system isn't just a toy? I never knew gaming as hobby had become serious s*** and not just for fun anymore.

Oh yeah, you can use the WiiU touschscreen controller as a chatpad for multiplayer games like Call of Duty. Massive win right therePandaBear86

[QUOTE="Zurrur"]

Hardcore gamers play WRPGS on PCs

Wii U is just a toy just like Wii was

St_muscat

And what game system isn't just a toy? I never knew gaming as hobby had become serious s*** and not just for fun anymore.

2011 is a weird time for video games, the industry is dividing casuals and hardcore like republicans and democrats.

It used to be a one party system, and even though Sega Genesis fans were against Nintendo fans back then, they both played each other's consoles; as long as the games were good. In other words, I've never met a Nintendo fan not play Sonic 2 because it was from Sega.

[QUOTE="PandaBear86"]Oh yeah, you can use the WiiU touschscreen controller as a chatpad for multiplayer games like Call of Duty. Massive win right thereAzelKosMos

I do as well. The controller is just amazing. Although it looks quite awkward in your hands, I read reports of it being ergonomic, surprisingly lol.

What I'm not sure about is how much 3rd party support the Wii U will have. Nintendo mentioned they will focus on improving this, so I'm waiting to see. I'm interested, yet I'm not sure if I'll slap the cash down for a Wii U just yet.

I feel once the PS4 and Nextbox release with superior specs, the third party devs will switch their focus leaving the Wii U with the scraps, much like the Wii but to a lesser extent.

I won't be buying one for a long time, that's for sure.

-Snooze-

Wii U may offer a bit more than the 360/PS3 and has a neat gimmick that may actually improve games, but overall it's not something I can point to and say is worth a $300+ investment right now.

It won't revolutionize gaming, but it might make gaming a tad bit better on consoles. The big problem is all of us in System Wars already own PS3s, 360s, or PCs, so the Wii U is kindof a hard sell especially if we're not stoked about Nintendo first party software (of which none have been formally announced as launch games anyway).

[QUOTE="AzelKosMos"][QUOTE="PandaBear86"]Oh yeah, you can use the WiiU touschscreen controller as a chatpad for multiplayer games like Call of Duty. Massive win right therePandaBear86

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

I feel once the PS4 and Nextbox release with superior specs, the third party devs will switch their focus leaving the Wii U with the scraps, much like the Wii but to a lesser extent.

I won't be buying one for a long time, that's for sure.

PandaBear86

Wii U may offer a bit more than the 360/PS3 and has a neat gimmick that may actually improve games, but overall it's not something I can point to and say is worth a $300+ investment right now.

It won't revolutionize gaming, but it might make gaming a tad bit better on consoles. The big problem is all of us in System Wars already own PS3s, 360s, or PCs, so the Wii U is kindof a hard sell especially if we're not stoked about Nintendo first party software (of which none have been formally announced as launch games anyway).

SakusEnvoy

Handhelds are the rave now, with the Vita & 3DS. IMO, Nintendo should cancel the WiiU and focus all of their energy on the 3DS &/or existing Wii Titles.

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

I feel once the PS4 and Nextbox release with superior specs, the third party devs will switch their focus leaving the Wii U with the scraps, much like the Wii but to a lesser extent.

I won't be buying one for a long time, that's for sure.

PandaBear86

If they were going to scale back the hardware for Wii U, they might as well scale back for the 360 and PS3 too -- that would be somewhat odd, games coming out on both last-gen and current-gen hardware, although it did happen for many games inbetween 2005 and 2006. Ultimately, though, devs eventually settled on 360/PS3/PC.

[QUOTE="PandaBear86"][QUOTE="AzelKosMos"]And that is more efficient then a headset how? :?AzelKosMos

[QUOTE="PandaBear86"][QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

I feel once the PS4 and Nextbox release with superior specs, the third party devs will switch their focus leaving the Wii U with the scraps, much like the Wii but to a lesser extent.

I won't be buying one for a long time, that's for sure.

SakusEnvoy

If they were going to scale back the hardware for Wii U, they might as well scale back for the 360 and PS3 too -- that would be somewhat odd, games coming out on both last-gen and current-gen hardware, although it did happen for many games inbetween 2005 and 2006. Ultimately, though, devs eventually settled on 360/PS3/PC.

[QUOTE="PandaBear86"][QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

I feel once the PS4 and Nextbox release with superior specs, the third party devs will switch their focus leaving the Wii U with the scraps, much like the Wii but to a lesser extent.

I won't be buying one for a long time, that's for sure.

St_muscat

If the controller makes a game easier to play it doesn't make the System hardcore oO Also it doesn't come close to a kb with mouse :S I'd like to see a console where every game has to support the controller and kb / mouse :S

[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

[QUOTE="PandaBear86"] Making a game only for PS4/X720 is bound to be expensive. I am sure that developers will allow their games to scale back for WiiU and PS Vita.PandaBear86

If they were going to scale back the hardware for Wii U, they might as well scale back for the 360 and PS3 too -- that would be somewhat odd, games coming out on both last-gen and current-gen hardware, although it did happen for many games inbetween 2005 and 2006. Ultimately, though, devs eventually settled on 360/PS3/PC.

The same will probably happen when the PS4 is released; I have no doubt it will make the Vita look downright weak, and the gap in power will be too large for devs to try and fill.

If the controller makes a game easier to play it doesn't make the System hardcore oO Also it doesn't come close to a kb with mouse :S I'd like to see a console where every game has to support the controller and kb / mouse :S

ArchoNils2

[QUOTE="St_muscat"]

[QUOTE="Zurrur"]

Hardcore gamers play WRPGS on PCs

Wii U is just a toy just like Wii was

CaptainBeer

And what game system isn't just a toy? I never knew gaming as hobby had become serious s*** and not just for fun anymore.

2011 is a weird time for video games, the industry is dividing casuals and hardcore like republicans and democrats.

It used to be a one party system, and even though Sega Genesis fans were against Nintendo fans back then, they both played each other's consoles; as long as the games were good. In other words, I've never met a Nintendo fan not play Sonic 2 because it was from Sega.

[QUOTE="PandaBear86"][QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"] Assuming the PS4 and 720 have a big leap in hardware, devs would make games for PS4, 720 and PC. Those three install bases combined will probably be more than enough to make up the cost of production, as they have been most of this generation. The formula worked and it could work again.

If they were going to scale back the hardware for Wii U, they might as well scale back for the 360 and PS3 too -- that would be somewhat odd, games coming out on both last-gen and current-gen hardware, although it did happen for many games inbetween 2005 and 2006. Ultimately, though, devs eventually settled on 360/PS3/PC.

SakusEnvoy

The same will probably happen when the PS4 is released; I have no doubt it will make the Vita look downright weak, and the gap in power will be too large for devs to try and fill.

[QUOTE="St_muscat"]

[QUOTE="PandaBear86"] Making a game only for PS4/X720 is bound to be expensive. I am sure that developers will allow their games to scale back for WiiU and PS Vita.lordlors

There's no way MS and Sony could just re-release the 360 and PS3 with a new gimmick and call it the PS4 (ala the Wii). It would make no sense given the fact that they already released new controller gimmicks for the 360/PS3.

I really don't think the Wii U's success or failure has any bearing on the PS4 or 720. The Wii U's competition is not the PS4 or 720 but the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3. When the time comes that MS and Sony release new consoles, they will be aiming for a market beyond what the Wii U is capable of. And that's why they won't release those consoles anytime soon, and instead will compete with the Wii U through the 360 and PS3 until 2013/2014 or so.

the tablet could be used as pip-boy in fallout , you wouold have it attached to your left hand while shooting with the wiimoeplus

the tablet could be used as pip-boy in fallout , you wouold have it attached to your left hand while shooting with the wiimoeplus

AmnesiaHaze

[I really don't think the Wii U's success or failure has any bearing on the PS4 or 720. The Wii U's competition is not the PS4 or 720 but the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3. SakusEnvoy

If that's so then why buy it? We're coming to the end of a gen, why would anyone support a console battling it out with 6 year old hardware?

The Wii U is competing with the next gen of consoles, like it or not.

I feel once the PS4 and Nextbox release with superior specs, the third party devs will switch their focus leaving the Wii U with the scraps, much like the Wii but to a lesser extent.

I won't be buying one for a long time, that's for sure.

-Snooze-

My thoughts exactly.

[QUOTE="lordlors"][QUOTE="St_muscat"] Just like they did the Wii? I'm willing to bet that if WiiU's specs aren't roughly close to the PS4/X720's were gonna have a repeat of this gen all over again with Nintendo struggling for 3rd support. A shiny new traditional looking/playing controller or not it's specs need to be comparable to the competition imo.

SakusEnvoy

There's no way MS and Sony could just re-release the 360 and PS3 with a new gimmick and call it the PS4 (ala the Wii). It would make no sense given the fact that they already released new controller gimmicks for the 360/PS3.

I really don't think the Wii U's success or failure has any bearing on the PS4 or 720. The Wii U's competition is not the PS4 or 720 but the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3. When the time comes that MS and Sony release new consoles, they will be aiming for a market beyond what the Wii U is capable of. And that's why they won't release those consoles anytime soon, and instead will compete with the Wii U through the 360 and PS3 until 2013/2014 or so.

Hardcore gamers play WRPGS on PCs

Wii U is just a toy just like Wii was

Zurrur

Hardcore gamers play WRPGS on PCsZurrur

Wii U is just a toy just like Wii wasZurrur

Then microsoft and sony will announce consoles that will absolutly destroy the WiiU in terms of hardware capabilities and 3rd party developers will jump ship from the WiiU to the other consoles.

I keep saying this. The WiiU is coming out a year to soon. It needs to wait a year, launch around the time of the other big hitters with much more hardware than what has been predicted and leaked. That Zelda demo was impressive but if that's the best a tech demo is going to get on the WiiU, that's not looking that good for the future of that hardware. Current PC benchmarks are damn near photorealistic and even the 360 and PS3 benchmarks can match that Zelda demo.

I think it's to little to late to grab back the hardcore audience. Especially if this thing costs $400 (which with that controller it will be suprising to see it under $400).

sony does wii u then all the cows will moo how amazing sony is. But since nintendo is doing it its just a gimmick.

[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

The point is that Microsoft and Sony already have consoles that are in the Wii U's general power range: the 360 and PS3. They also already released controller peripherals for both devices, giving them new functionality via the Move and Kinect.

There's no way MS and Sony could just re-release the 360 and PS3 with a new gimmick and call it the PS4 (ala the Wii). It would make no sense given the fact that they already released new controller gimmicks for the 360/PS3.

I really don't think the Wii U's success or failure has any bearing on the PS4 or 720. The Wii U's competition is not the PS4 or 720 but the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3. When the time comes that MS and Sony release new consoles, they will be aiming for a market beyond what the Wii U is capable of. And that's why they won't release those consoles anytime soon, and instead will compete with the Wii U through the 360 and PS3 until 2013/2014 or so.

lordlors

The Wii U is competing against the 360/PS3 and will receive mostly the same games; not just in 2012, not just in 2013, but for the perpetual future until Microsoft and Sony decide to launch new consoles. Again, that is because third parties need/want to release on multiple systems to reach the largest install base, increase sales and make up for the high costs of modern day big-budget game development.

If and when Microsoft and Sony do launch new consoles, there is no guarantee that the hardware in those new systems won't completely blow away the Wii U's. You can hope that they won't blow away the Wii U's, but there's a very good that they will. Especially the longer Microsoft and Sony wait to launch them.

[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

[I really don't think the Wii U's success or failure has any bearing on the PS4 or 720. The Wii U's competition is not the PS4 or 720 but the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3. -Snooze-

If that's so then why buy it? We're coming to the end of a gen, why would anyone support a console battling it out with 6 year old hardware?

The Wii U is competing with the next gen of consoles, like it or not.

Then microsoft and sony will announce consoles that will absolutly destroy the WiiU in terms of hardware capabilities and 3rd party developers will jump ship from the WiiU to the other consoles.

I keep saying this. The WiiU is coming out a year to soon. It needs to wait a year, launch around the time of the other big hitters with much more hardware than what has been predicted and leaked. That Zelda demo was impressive but if that's the best a tech demo is going to get on the WiiU, that's not looking that good for the future of that hardware. Current PC benchmarks are damn near photorealistic and even the 360 and PS3 benchmarks can match that Zelda demo.

I think it's to little to late to grab back the hardcore audience. Especially if this thing costs $400 (which with that controller it will be suprising to see it under $400).

Wasdie

Am I the only person that sees the Wii U as just a controller with a massive DC screen in the middle that happens to be a touch screen? Not saying it's bad or anything. Just don't know how people can find so much to talk about over it.OICWUTUDIDTHAR

Thats really up to the third parties. Nintendo isn't going to start making M rated games but if the third parties love the system so much those hardcore games should show up

I see a repeat of the Wii, touting that 3rd parties are on board, the system is easy to program for, the new controller opens up unimaginable oportunites to devs. Then you dont really get any of that in the long run.

Hardcore gamers play WRPGS on PCs

Wii U is just a toy just like Wii was

Zurrur

Isn't that exactly what video games are anyway?