I thought I was told that the XBLA was way better than the Wii VC...

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="project343"]VC was designed so Nintendo could resell their games for further milkage, nothing more. I absolutely hate the idea.Blackbond

VC was designed so Nintendo could resell their games for further milkage, nothing more. I absolutely hate the idea.project343

???  How is VC "milkage" any more than XBLA?

Of course they're ALL trying to make money, that's the idea behind anything any console comes out with.

The idea behind VC is that people who for what ever reason (sold their NES, SNES, N64, old games, ect)  can't play their classic games anymore.  So they see a game on VC, that they'd played when they had a NES or whatever and say "Damn, i remember how fun that game was, I think I wana play that again" 

And stop it with the whole "Nintendo's just trying to make money without putting any effort in it, and just re-releasing games"  I don't think Geometry Wars took that much more effort to make than re-releasing old games. 

Even without online play, leaderboards, and other gimmicks that try to justify a purchase, the VC even @ launch is still so much more entertianing than the XBLA. Stick with the nextgen gaming MS, you guys suck at bringing games that came out before your original Xbox.wok7

Too bad MS can only update easy arcade games instead of thier own Xbox games to make it fully BC and able to compete with the Wii.

Pwn and Exit ya'll, this thread of over : )wok7

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="project343"]VC was designed so Nintendo could resell their games for further milkage, nothing more. I absolutely hate the idea.TekkenMaster606

You have no facts, basis, or links to back up your claim.
Blackbond

vc = one dimensional, therefore xbla > vc

Wut? VC has better 2D and 3D games, lol
wok7

Making money =/= milking.

By this definition 'milking' is better as its purely for the gamers, so Nintendo is best : )
wok7

Xbox Live arcade is more like...durf...an ARCADE.

Virtual Console is...a CONSOLE.

Two totally different kinds of downloadable content.

XBLA can't compete with 20 years of Nintendo classics.

But VC adds no new features, online play, or updated graphics.

Pro's and cons.

Bread_or_Decide

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="project343"]VC was designed so Nintendo could resell their games for further milkage, nothing more. I absolutely hate the idea.Blackbond

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="project343"]VC was designed so Nintendo could resell their games for further milkage, nothing more. I absolutely hate the idea.TekkenMaster606

[QUOTE="wok7"]vc = one dimensional, therefore xbla > vc

Wut? VC has better 2D and 3D games, lol
project343

Making money =/= milking.

By this definition 'milking' is better as its purely for the gamers, so Nintendo is best : )
wok7

I'm stilled confused... HOW IS XBLA NOT MILKAGE AND VC IS

And your talking re-released games?  Geometry Wars, Doom, Gauntlet are all re-released... Um and like Uno and Texas Hold'em are fresh and original games as well.  Oh my bad, you've got TOTEM BALL! Prolly the worst game/innovation ever made...

Whoo...the damage control in this thread by the TC is just plain ridiculous. He has got to be one of the blindest fanboys on GS. :lol:

This is just sad...I can understand you saying the VC >>>> XBLA (because in some ways I agree) but the reasons this guy uses to justify these views are just plain fanboyish.  

[QUOTE="project343"][QUOTE="wok7"]vc = one dimensional, therefore xbla > vc

Wut? VC has better 2D and 3D games, lol
NATATO

Making money =/= milking.

By this definition 'milking' is better as its purely for the gamers, so Nintendo is best : )
wok7

I'm stilled confused... HOW IS XBLA NOT MILKAGE AND VC IS

And your talking re-released games? Geometry Wars, Doom, Gauntlet are all re-released... Um and like Uno and Texas Hold'em are fresh and original games as well. Oh my bad, you've got TOTEM BALL! Prolly the worst game/innovation ever made...

[QUOTE="NATATO"]

[QUOTE="project343"][QUOTE="wok7"]vc = one dimensional, therefore xbla > vc

Wut? VC has better 2D and 3D games, lol
dumfart66

Making money =/= milking.

By this definition 'milking' is better as its purely for the gamers, so Nintendo is best : )
wok7

I'm stilled confused... HOW IS XBLA NOT MILKAGE AND VC IS

And your talking re-released games? Geometry Wars, Doom, Gauntlet are all re-released... Um and like Uno and Texas Hold'em are fresh and original games as well. Oh my bad, you've got TOTEM BALL! Prolly the worst game/innovation ever made...

Yes, and I'm overwhelmed at all the new games on XBLA

Frogger, Doom, Gauntlet, Geometry Wars, Hardwood Backgommoen, Hardwood Hearts, Hardwood spades, joust, Ms. PAC-MAN, Mutent Strom Reloaded, PAC-MAN, Paperboy, Street Fgihters, Smash TV, Texas Hold'em, TMNT 1989 Arcade, and Uno.  FRESH NEW  CONTENT THAT Xbox is serving to their loyal fans.  Because Micro Soft would never milk anyone? Would they?

C'mon, just because these games haven't been released on an Xbox system, doesn't mean Microsoft isn't milking.  And just giving a game 3D graphics doesnt make it a completely new and fresh game.  Microsoft is releasing OLD games, that you can play in other places, getting people to buy them.  Stop being a fan boy and just bashing VC cause you hate Nintendo

[QUOTE="dumfart66"][QUOTE="NATATO"]

[QUOTE="project343"][QUOTE="wok7"]vc = one dimensional, therefore xbla > vc

Wut? VC has better 2D and 3D games, lol
NATATO

Making money =/= milking.

By this definition 'milking' is better as its purely for the gamers, so Nintendo is best : )
wok7

I'm stilled confused... HOW IS XBLA NOT MILKAGE AND VC IS

And your talking re-released games? Geometry Wars, Doom, Gauntlet are all re-released... Um and like Uno and Texas Hold'em are fresh and original games as well. Oh my bad, you've got TOTEM BALL! Prolly the worst game/innovation ever made...

Yes, and I'm overwhelmed at all the new games on XBLA

Frogger, Doom, Gauntlet, Geometry Wars, Hardwood Backgommoen, Hardwood Hearts, Hardwood spades, joust, Ms. PAC-MAN, Mutent Strom Reloaded, PAC-MAN, Paperboy, Street Fgihters, Smash TV, Texas Hold'em, TMNT 1989 Arcade, and Uno. FRESH NEW CONTENT THAT Xbox is serving to their loyal fans. Because Micro Soft would never milk anyone? Would they?

C'mon, just because these games haven't been released on an Xbox system, doesn't mean Microsoft isn't milking. And just giving a game 3D graphics doesnt make it a completely new and fresh game. Microsoft is releasing OLD games, that you can play in other places, getting people to buy them. Stop being a fan boy and just bashing VC cause you hate Nintendo

I already own most of those games or at least played them.

Me too though its still far better than the XBLA's barely playable arcade games which are far more overpriced.
wok7

Atleast XBLA has demos so you know of you like the game or not. With VC you are stuck with it plus they have no added online or extra features over the original. I'm not gonna go out and buy SM64 for no reason when I already own it.

[QUOTE="NATATO"][QUOTE="dumfart66"][QUOTE="NATATO"]

[QUOTE="project343"][QUOTE="wok7"]vc = one dimensional, therefore xbla > vc

Wut? VC has better 2D and 3D games, lol
dumfart66

Making money =/= milking.

By this definition 'milking' is better as its purely for the gamers, so Nintendo is best : )
wok7

I'm stilled confused... HOW IS XBLA NOT MILKAGE AND VC IS

And your talking re-released games? Geometry Wars, Doom, Gauntlet are all re-released... Um and like Uno and Texas Hold'em are fresh and original games as well. Oh my bad, you've got TOTEM BALL! Prolly the worst game/innovation ever made...

Yes, and I'm overwhelmed at all the new games on XBLA

Frogger, Doom, Gauntlet, Geometry Wars, Hardwood Backgommoen, Hardwood Hearts, Hardwood spades, joust, Ms. PAC-MAN, Mutent Strom Reloaded, PAC-MAN, Paperboy, Street Fgihters, Smash TV, Texas Hold'em, TMNT 1989 Arcade, and Uno. FRESH NEW CONTENT THAT Xbox is serving to their loyal fans. Because Micro Soft would never milk anyone? Would they?

C'mon, just because these games haven't been released on an Xbox system, doesn't mean Microsoft isn't milking. And just giving a game 3D graphics doesnt make it a completely new and fresh game. Microsoft is releasing OLD games, that you can play in other places, getting people to buy them. Stop being a fan boy and just bashing VC cause you hate Nintendo

The thing is the old unchanged nintendo stuff is still better than pretty much anything on XBLA.  Updated graphics and online play does not make a game a must buy over old unchanged games. 

[QUOTE="wok7"]lol @ the guy who said some XBLA games were new IP's and actually look different via HD

XD
Spartan070

[QUOTE="wok7"] I already own most of those games or at least played them.

Me too though its still far better than the XBLA's barely playable arcade games which are far more overpriced.
CPM_basic

Atleast XBLA has demos so you know of you like the game or not. With VC you are stuck with it plus they have no added online or extra features over the original. I'm not gonna go out and buy SM64 for no reason when I already own it.

[QUOTE="dumfart66"][QUOTE="NATATO"][QUOTE="dumfart66"][QUOTE="NATATO"]

[QUOTE="project343"][QUOTE="wok7"]vc = one dimensional, therefore xbla > vc

Wut? VC has better 2D and 3D games, lol
MasterChumly

Making money =/= milking.

By this definition 'milking' is better as its purely for the gamers, so Nintendo is best : )
wok7

I'm stilled confused... HOW IS XBLA NOT MILKAGE AND VC IS

And your talking re-released games? Geometry Wars, Doom, Gauntlet are all re-released... Um and like Uno and Texas Hold'em are fresh and original games as well. Oh my bad, you've got TOTEM BALL! Prolly the worst game/innovation ever made...

Yes, and I'm overwhelmed at all the new games on XBLA

Frogger, Doom, Gauntlet, Geometry Wars, Hardwood Backgommoen, Hardwood Hearts, Hardwood spades, joust, Ms. PAC-MAN, Mutent Strom Reloaded, PAC-MAN, Paperboy, Street Fgihters, Smash TV, Texas Hold'em, TMNT 1989 Arcade, and Uno. FRESH NEW CONTENT THAT Xbox is serving to their loyal fans. Because Micro Soft would never milk anyone? Would they?

C'mon, just because these games haven't been released on an Xbox system, doesn't mean Microsoft isn't milking. And just giving a game 3D graphics doesnt make it a completely new and fresh game. Microsoft is releasing OLD games, that you can play in other places, getting people to buy them. Stop being a fan boy and just bashing VC cause you hate Nintendo

The thing is the old unchanged nintendo stuff is still better than pretty much anything on XBLA. Updated graphics and online play does not make a game a must buy over old unchanged games.

Real games? You mean games designed to be pure profit so Nintendo does not have to work and put time into developing other content online.


TekkenMaster606

[QUOTE="MasterChumly"][QUOTE="dumfart66"][QUOTE="NATATO"][QUOTE="dumfart66"][QUOTE="NATATO"]

[QUOTE="project343"][QUOTE="wok7"]vc = one dimensional, therefore xbla > vc

Wut? VC has better 2D and 3D games, lol
dumfart66

Making money =/= milking.

By this definition 'milking' is better as its purely for the gamers, so Nintendo is best : )
wok7

I'm stilled confused... HOW IS XBLA NOT MILKAGE AND VC IS

And your talking re-released games? Geometry Wars, Doom, Gauntlet are all re-released... Um and like Uno and Texas Hold'em are fresh and original games as well. Oh my bad, you've got TOTEM BALL! Prolly the worst game/innovation ever made...

Yes, and I'm overwhelmed at all the new games on XBLA

Frogger, Doom, Gauntlet, Geometry Wars, Hardwood Backgommoen, Hardwood Hearts, Hardwood spades, joust, Ms. PAC-MAN, Mutent Strom Reloaded, PAC-MAN, Paperboy, Street Fgihters, Smash TV, Texas Hold'em, TMNT 1989 Arcade, and Uno. FRESH NEW CONTENT THAT Xbox is serving to their loyal fans. Because Micro Soft would never milk anyone? Would they?

C'mon, just because these games haven't been released on an Xbox system, doesn't mean Microsoft isn't milking. And just giving a game 3D graphics doesnt make it a completely new and fresh game. Microsoft is releasing OLD games, that you can play in other places, getting people to buy them. Stop being a fan boy and just bashing VC cause you hate Nintendo

The thing is the old unchanged nintendo stuff is still better than pretty much anything on XBLA. Updated graphics and online play does not make a game a must buy over old unchanged games.

Am I comparing OoT to oblivion? No.  We are comparing VC vs. XBLA games and OoT is better than any XBLA game right now. 

Well i know this probably hasn't crossed alot of you "hardcore" gamers minds before BUT alot of people who are buying a Wii HAVEN'T PLAYED VIDEOGAMES BEFORE. The VC gives them the chance to play these classics and also gives us the chance to play some old classics we might have missed or have a hard time finding in used stores. Honestly what is so wrong with this concept? So what Nintendo shouldn't charge you for these games? They should all be online enabled? updated graphics? leaderboards? will it never end? Take it for what it is, a way to play old games on exctinct consoles. If anyone has a better (legal) way to do this then i'd love to hear it.

[QUOTE="CPM_basic"]

[QUOTE="wok7"] I already own most of those games or at least played them.

Me too though its still far better than the XBLA's barely playable arcade games which are far more overpriced.
Jandurin

Atleast XBLA has demos so you know of you like the game or not. With VC you are stuck with it plus they have no added online or extra features over the original. I'm not gonna go out and buy SM64 for no reason when I already own it.

Well that's the thing with XBLA. It has completely NEW games as well as remakes. So with the new games you obviously want to try them before you buy and with the oldies you can download the demo to see if the updates and extra are worth the re-purchase.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="CPM_basic"]

[QUOTE="wok7"] I already own most of those games or at least played them.

Me too though its still far better than the XBLA's barely playable arcade games which are far more overpriced.
CPM_basic

Atleast XBLA has demos so you know of you like the game or not. With VC you are stuck with it plus they have no added online or extra features over the original. I'm not gonna go out and buy SM64 for no reason when I already own it.

Well that's the thing with XBLA. It has completely NEW games as well as remakes. So with the new games you obviously want to try them before you buy and with the oldies you can download the demo to see if the updates and extra are worth the re-purchase.

Well considering most of the XBLA games arent as good as the VC games its a good thing theres a demo so people dont have to waste their money. 

[QUOTE="CPM_basic"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="CPM_basic"]

[QUOTE="wok7"] I already own most of those games or at least played them.

Me too though its still far better than the XBLA's barely playable arcade games which are far more overpriced.
MasterChumly

Atleast XBLA has demos so you know of you like the game or not. With VC you are stuck with it plus they have no added online or extra features over the original. I'm not gonna go out and buy SM64 for no reason when I already own it.

Well that's the thing with XBLA. It has completely NEW games as well as remakes. So with the new games you obviously want to try them before you buy and with the oldies you can download the demo to see if the updates and extra are worth the re-purchase.

Well considering most of the XBLA games arent as good as the VC games its a good thing theres a demo so people dont have to waste their money. 

I never said VC games weren't good :wink: I'm just defending XBLA and you can't deny that it has more variety.

Too bad MS can only update easy arcade games instead of thier own Xbox games to make it fully BC and able to compete with the Wii.

Pwn and Exit ya'll, this thread of over : )wok7

1.) Only old IPs ATM

2.) Not Many titles ATM

3.) No online play ATM

4.) No upgrades graphically

5.) No additional features (gamerscore, co-op, leaderboards, etc) ATM.

 ^^^ It will remain that way till those things change.

VC is Nintendo's milking machine.

[QUOTE="project343"]VC was designed so Nintendo could resell their games for further milkage, nothing more. I absolutely hate the idea.Magical_Guy

It gives people who never played those games a chance to play them. But they are overpriced.