I thought Phil was righting the ship for Xbox?

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#51 neogeo2k2
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Is all this negativity because of the Perfect Dark announcement?

Or was it cause MS and Nintendo had a huge announcement on the VGA and Sony had none?

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#52 Pedro
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@neogeo2k2: This is normal. Sony fannies are normally upset.😮

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#53 BenjaminBanklin
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@neogeo2k2 said:

Is all this negativity because of the Perfect Dark announcement?

Or was it cause MS and Nintendo had a huge announcement on the VGA and Sony had none?

Hey new alt. Nope. no one's triggered by a game no one will see for three years... if it doesn't get cancelled altogether.

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#54 Pedro
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@neogeo2k2: You triggered one. 😂

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#55 hardwenzen
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Felt to me that i was the only person on this site that was constantly talking about PD pre annoucement, but now, all of a sudden, its a popular game that everyone wants lol. Is it this anticipated because barely anything is coming to the system or because most of you are actually excited for the game?

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#56 BenjaminBanklin
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@hardwenzen said:

Felt to me that i was the only person on this site that was constantly talking about PD pre annoucement, but now, all of a sudden, its a popular game that everyone wants lol. Is it this anticipated because barely anything is coming to the system or because most of you are actually excited for the game?

it comes from starvation. PDZ was dogshit, and this is the first AAA Xbox game in forever that isn't Halo, Gears or Forza. Xbots were excited about Crackdown 3 until it actually came out, and some of them still defended it just because the well was THAT dry. A CG trailer doesn't mean shit. Especially with this company.

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@hardwenzen said:

Felt to me that i was the only person on this site that was constantly talking about PD pre annoucement, but now, all of a sudden, its a popular game that everyone wants lol. Is it this anticipated because barely anything is coming to the system or because most of you are actually excited for the game?

Most of the kids hyping it weren't even born when the first one came out. Just more sad desperation from lems with no games to hype.

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#58 Pedro
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@hardwenzen said:

Felt to me that i was the only person on this site that was constantly talking about PD pre annoucement, but now, all of a sudden, its a popular game that everyone wants lol. Is it this anticipated because barely anything is coming to the system or because most of you are actually excited for the game?

People have been wanting a Perfect Dark game for the longest time. Not sure why.

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#59 mojito1988
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Righting the ship? Someone has not been paying attention to the markets. The poorest of the big 3 is Sony. And it is not even close.

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You don’t own both.

don't worry, i'll take a picture just for you and upload it here. Most people wouldn't bother, but i like making people look like fools.

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#61 BenjaminBanklin
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@mojito1988 said:

Righting the ship? Someone has not been paying attention to the markets. The poorest of the big 3 is Sony. And it is not even close.

Who cares? MS is a trillion dollar company that's never gotten a true foothold in the console market for twenty years. We're playing games, not market caps.

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#62 blaznwiipspman1
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@phlop_spencer said:

@blaznwiipspman1: Xbox SX is weaker than PS5 as proven by most game comparisons. Therefore your statement is wrong - PS5 is the better system, most of the planet agrees too.

The specs are clear the XsX is more powerful than the PS5. Those few games you talk about are all getting patches to improve the performance and appearance on the XsX. This proves that its not XsX is weaker, just devs not used to the XsX.

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@blaznwiipspman1: specs are clear how? More CUs running slower, with split ram??

Those specs translate to weaker performance than the PS5. These are the facts. And just wait until Sony devs pump out exclusives like god of war and ND’s new game. You will cry yourself to sleep from sadness with how shitty the new weakboxSX compares.

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#65 NathanDrakeSwag
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@phlop_spencer said:

@blaznwiipspman1: Xbox SX is weaker than PS5 as proven by most game comparisons. Therefore your statement is wrong - PS5 is the better system, most of the planet agrees too.

The specs are clear the XsX is more powerful than the PS5. Those few games you talk about are all getting patches to improve the performance and appearance on the XsX. This proves that its not XsX is weaker, just devs not used to the XsX.

It's literally "teh cloud" all over again except this time it's "teh toolz". You guys are a joke. PS5 runs every single current gen game better than XSX. That's not a fluke. It's not the tools. It's the reality that you need to get used to.

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#66 Pedro
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@girlusocrazy said:

If the sales are slow it ...

Nothing you state beyond this statement is valid because this statement is false.

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#68 blaznwiipspman1
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@blaznwiipspman1:

You don’t own both.

don't worry, i'll take a picture just for you and upload it here. Most people wouldn't bother, but i like making people look like fools.

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#69 Pedro
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@Pedro: I really don't know, I haven't seen sales figures, but it's how their hardware is being positioned.

If sales are slow then it would be easy to acquire one. That is factually not the case. What are you not understanding?

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#70 blaznwiipspman1
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@blaznwiipspman1 said:
@phlop_spencer said:

@blaznwiipspman1: Xbox SX is weaker than PS5 as proven by most game comparisons. Therefore your statement is wrong - PS5 is the better system, most of the planet agrees too.

The specs are clear the XsX is more powerful than the PS5. Those few games you talk about are all getting patches to improve the performance and appearance on the XsX. This proves that its not XsX is weaker, just devs not used to the XsX.

It's literally "teh cloud" all over again except this time it's "teh toolz". You guys are a joke. PS5 runs every single current gen game better than XSX. That's not a fluke. It's not the tools. It's the reality that you need to get used to.

what do you mean you guys lol. I have a ps5 and i've played some very beautiful looking ps5 games that beat out almost every game on the XsX so far. TLOU2 is in a league of its own, its better looking that almost every XsX i've seen so far aside from Forza Horizons. Whatever the case, I wouldn't say the ps5 is more powerful, not with the specs sheet anyway.

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#72 Pedro
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@girlusocrazy said:

@Pedro: Personally I had the opportunity to get a Series X at least 4 times, the PS5 is like nowhere. But like I said I haven't seen sales figures.

Please provide data that validates your claim that sales are slow. Anecdotal evidence is useless.

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#73 hardwenzen
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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

Felt to me that i was the only person on this site that was constantly talking about PD pre annoucement, but now, all of a sudden, its a popular game that everyone wants lol. Is it this anticipated because barely anything is coming to the system or because most of you are actually excited for the game?

People have been wanting a Perfect Dark game for the longest time. Not sure why.

Where are those people at? You barely to ever (pre annoucement that is) heard anyone talk about the game.

Now its all Perfect Dark this and that. I forbid lems hyping up this franchise because its mine. I was the one giving a damn about it. Lems are simply not worthy of a PD reboot, its that simple.

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#75 blaznwiipspman1
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@phlop_spencer said:

@blaznwiipspman1: specs are clear how? More CUs running slower, with split ram??

Those specs translate to weaker performance than the PS5. These are the facts. And just wait until Sony devs pump out exclusives like god of war and ND’s new game. You will cry yourself to sleep from sadness with how shitty the new weakboxSX compares.

yes, XsX has better specs and is more powerful, even toms guide says so: PS5 vs. Xbox Series X: Which console wins? | Tom's Guide

Also I have the ps5, I won't be crying from sadness, i'll probably end up picking up ND's new game.

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#76 Pedro
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@girlusocrazy: Any notion of slow sales is factually false. Don't fight the facts man.

@hardwenzen said:

Where are those people at? You barely to ever (pre annoucement that is) heard anyone talk about the game.

Now its all Perfect Dark this and that. I forbid lems hyping up this franchise because its mine. I was the one giving a damn about it. Lems are simply not worthy of a PD reboot, its that simple.

The people are here now. There was no hope for a reboot and now there is. What do expect to happen to the folks who wanted the game? To disappear or be more present?

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#77 Kadin_Kai
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@NathanDrakeSwag: Really? Wow are these government reports and nationwide polls?

I missed these reports. Did Trump, Pence make a statement that Xbox Series X/S isn’t selling?

What did Boris Johnson say?

Which polling company is polling the success of console sales?

Are you a CIA agent with confidential info? How is Ed Snowden are you still in touch?

The place where the sun doesn’t shine must be getting light since so much stuff is being pulled from it.

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#78 Telekill
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The XSeX has been out for one month. We don't have anywhere near the time it takes to determine if a system is a failure or not. Considering the system is still selling out for Christmas morning as stock becomes available... I'd say the only thing MS failed in aside from Halo Infinite, is the naming of their newest hardware and perhaps the idea of the Series S in its entirety.

It'll be next year before we can really track how the XSeX is doing.

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#79 SheevPalpamemes
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@blaznwiipspman1: no one actually owns a ps5, you are the caretaker for the next generation.

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#80 Jag85
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@goldenelementxl said:
@hallenbeck77 said:

Maybe it's me, I don't know...but how can a console launch be a failure if thei stock is sold out everywhere?

In most territories, it seems as if the Xbox allotment is 1/3 of the PS5 stock. That's a failure... That can't happen.

Xbox had nothing to gain from launching when they did. They had no consoles ready, no games ready, and "the tools." Now they're being compared head to head with the PS5 and losing in every metric... That's not a good look

Also, let's not forget that Microsoft is a bigger company than Sony. If MS wanted, they could've manufactured more stock, like Sony did. Yet MS didn't, because they weren't confident in the Series outperforming the Xbone.

It appears that MS may have adopted a Nintendo strategy: artificial scarcity. That's worked well for Nintendo, so MS may be hoping it works well for the Series.

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#82 hardwenzen
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@Pedro said:

@girlusocrazy: Any notion of slow sales is factually false. Don't fight the facts man.

@hardwenzen said:

Where are those people at? You barely to ever (pre annoucement that is) heard anyone talk about the game.

Now its all Perfect Dark this and that. I forbid lems hyping up this franchise because its mine. I was the one giving a damn about it. Lems are simply not worthy of a PD reboot, its that simple.

The people are here now. There was no hope for a reboot and now there is. What do expect to happen to the folks who wanted the game? To disappear or be more present?

What i expect? I expect nobody to care about the game, just like before the reboot annoucement. Its not that people didn't have hope, but they did not care about the series. All of a sudden its the best thing ever 🤣

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#83 Antwan3K
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A console that people literally can't buy because it's sold out is a failure.. SW never disappoints..

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#84 BenjaminBanklin
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@Jag85 said:

Also, let's not forget that Microsoft is a bigger company than Sony. If MS wanted, they could've manufactured more stock, like Sony did. Yet MS didn't, because they weren't confident in the Series outperforming the Xbone.

It appears that MS may have adopted a Nintendo strategy: artificial scarcity. That's worked well for Nintendo, so MS may be hoping it works well for the Series.

Uhhh, well, scarcity certainly hasn't worked for the Xbox game lineup.

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#85 Bluestars
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sales HaH

cows HAH

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#86  Edited By mojito1988
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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@mojito1988 said:

Righting the ship? Someone has not been paying attention to the markets. The poorest of the big 3 is Sony. And it is not even close.

Who cares? MS is a trillion dollar company that's never gotten a true foothold in the console market for twenty years. We're playing games, not market caps.

Yes and I play dozens of games on my Gamepass and 2 or 3 on my Ps4 so once again I see no ship that needs to be righted. And I can play them on console or PC. I for one think Sony should right the ship as they gave up handheld gaming and offer little on PC. Sony is more like a dingy than a ship lol.

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@blaznwiipspman1 said:
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@blaznwiipspman1:

You don’t own both.

don't worry, i'll take a picture just for you and upload it here. Most people wouldn't bother, but i like making people look like fools.

my systems

Now you should ask him to prove he owns a PS5, i bet he will ghost you because he doesn't own one LOL.

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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

Felt to me that i was the only person on this site that was constantly talking about PD pre annoucement, but now, all of a sudden, its a popular game that everyone wants lol. Is it this anticipated because barely anything is coming to the system or because most of you are actually excited for the game?

People have been wanting a Perfect Dark game for the longest time. Not sure why.

Before Goldeneye, Perfect Dark on N64 felt like a huge revolution when Rare made that game amazing on N64 for short years between Goldeneye to Perfect Dark. The original game is, to this day, my favorite N64 game. Perfect Dark Zero was hugely disappointing when it came out (but I can forgive it since it was an Xbox 360 launch game) being not only massively inferior to the original, but also so mediocre in so many ways. I *really* hope that this new Perfect Dark game will be more inline with the original.

(In ways, Perfect Dark Zero predates CP2077 if you look back on that game)

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#89 sealionact
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@NathanDrakeSwag: Lol....this is poor - even by your standards.

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#90 Pedro
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@girlusocrazy: I guess the fact that it is perpetually out of stock is hard for you to see?😎

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#91  Edited By deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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@Antwan3K: The software wasn’t ready, the supply wasn’t ready and the tools aren’t ready. Allowing the Series X/S to launch in this state against a direct competitor is a failure.

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#92 deactivated-60bf765068a74
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I called him out in another awhile back.

Xbox guys were like "GIVE HIM CHANCE" c'mon "Give him a chance"

NO!

Guy sucks he failed halo he failed xbox brand they said wait for the halo reveal it was a mess im done waiting he messed up hes gone hes fired hes out.

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#93 Pedro
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@ProtossRushX: Weren’t you done waiting a hundred times ago?😂

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@ProtossRushX said:

I called him out in another awhile back.

Xbox guys were like "GIVE HIM CHANCE" c'mon "Give him a chance"

NO!

Guy sucks he failed halo he failed xbox brand they said wait for the halo reveal it was a mess im done waiting he messed up hes gone hes fired hes out.

Satya to Phil in the near future after another disastrous Xbox console launch

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@NathanDrakeSwag: link or fantasy?

That's setting the bar too high for OP, asking for a link? Really?

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#96 Antwan3K
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@goldenelementxl: and yet it's still sold out..

By the time supply is readily available, the software and "teh tools" will be in a better position.. This is nothing new for early adoption every generation..

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#97 Duckyindiana
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@ProtossRushX: Awww more fake rage calm down sweetie go ask mummy for a hug

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#98 blaznwiipspman1
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@i_p_daily said:
@blaznwiipspman1 said:
@blaznwiipspman1 said:
@sheevpalpamemes said:

@blaznwiipspman1:

You don’t own both.

don't worry, i'll take a picture just for you and upload it here. Most people wouldn't bother, but i like making people look like fools.

my systems

Now you should ask him to prove he owns a PS5, i bet he will ghost you because he doesn't own one LOL.

You're right but im not going to hold it against him. I don't think most people have the next gen consoles yet, even one of them let alone both. I made sure to preorder mine as soon as pre orders were available, in the very first minute way back in september I think. Thats the only reason why I was able to score my systems, others weren't as lucky because they didn't follow the announcements.

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#99  Edited By Ross_the_Boss6
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Isn’t the console sold out? If you know where unsold Xbox’s are, please let me know.

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#100 Xabiss
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@Antwan3K said:

A console that people literally can't buy because it's sold out is a failure.. SW never disappoints..

It is pretty hilarious. That is why fanboy opinions are mute and they are a disease to gaming.