I typed of the 10/10 OXM bioshock review

[QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"][QUOTE="yahoomail"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"]

OXM = no credibility cuz they are on M$ payroll. Not that i dont doubt it wont get eh same score elsewheres. im really excited for this game.

tmatte

I dont think bioshock is being produced by microsoft....

Read it more carefully. OXM, the people who wrote the review, are pretty much on M$ payroll. thats why its the OFFICIAL xbox magazine. Official single console game publications pretty much ALWAYS score games higher than other multi-platform publications or websites.

Is that why Fight Night Round 3 got a 10 there?

EDIT: crap double post

that review was crazy, but don't kill them for that, every site and mag has had a questionable review.

[QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"]

I never said Payed off. I said they were on the M$ payroll. one is underhanded, the other is not. any which way it works, does it really change the fact that OXM scores and OPM scores are universally pretty much not acknowledged here on SW for the core reason of them being the OFFICIAL magazines?

Ninja-Vox

No, just you. So stop with the nonsense. You've been proven wrong now let it go. They aren't even paid by microsoft. You're completely wrong. They have no reason to give the game a higher review at all; they haven't done so in the past, and aren't starting now. Especially when it isn't even a microsoft game.

Also, PC Gamer gave it 95%; are they being paid to sell more PCs too? :roll:

Actually, since PC game devsdont have to pay liscensing fees to anyone to get thier games out onto the PC platform, no, the PC review is fine.

and lighten up, this SW. There are unfounded opinions around every corner. :roll:

[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"][QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

I fail to see how you do not see a connection to it.. Isn't it beneficial for Microsoft to give a good review to a highly acclaimed game that is being released for the Xbox360 the only console system that will have the game.. And being released on the PC which is for windows, a OS platform that is devolped by Microsoft.. Don't you think it would be beneficial for them to hype the game a bit to get sales in the system>?

jigglebilly1983

, Crackdown would not have received a mediocre score, or shadowrun a pretty bad score for that matter. That was a microsoft games studios game for crying out loud.

yeah, but sometimes you cant hide the mediocrity with a sugar coating.

Sorry, you're just wrong. You're accusing microsoft of paying off reviewers to give a higher score; and this isn't even a microsoft game. Two microsoft PUBLISHED games both scored 7.0 and 6.0 respectively; mediocre scores and lower than what any multi-format reviewers awarded. So you have no point. They are not paid by microsoft at all.

I never said Payed off. I said they were on the M$ payroll. one is underhanded, the other is not. any which way it works, does it really change the fact that OXM scores and OPM scores are universally pretty much not acknowledged here on SW for the core reason of them being the OFFICIAL magazines?

please give us a link to this underhanded payoff. I would love to read this. please don't give me the, its obvious excuse or the stop being a blind fanboy excuse. just show some proof.

Actually, since PC game devsdont have to pay liscensing fees to anyone to get thier games out onto the PC platform, no, the PC review is fine.

and lighten up, this SW. There are unfounded opinions around every corner. :roll:

jigglebilly1983

I'm perfectly lightened up. Just because this is system wars does not give you free reign to post illogical nonsense and then argue into the ground until you are completely proven wrong, only to say "whatever... this is system wars."

:|

[QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"]

Actually, since PC game devsdont have to pay liscensing fees to anyone to get thier games out onto the PC platform, no, the PC review is fine.

and lighten up, this SW. There are unfounded opinions around every corner. :roll:

Ninja-Vox

I'm perfectly lightened up. Just because this is system wars does not give you free reign to post illogical nonsense and then argue into the ground until you are completely proven wrong, only to say "whatever... this is system wars."

:|

thats the beauty of system wars though.

please give us a link to this underhanded payoff. I would love to read this. please don't give me the, its obvious excuse or the stop being a blind fanboy excuse. just show some proof.

sSubZerOo

well, i cant becasue i never said they were payed off.

Go to Wikipedia. Future Publishing makes OXM UK.

Future Publishing makes the Official PlayStation and Official Nintendo Magazine UK.

It could be that Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft all licensed this publisher to be their official magazine. But OXM has rated many Xbox 360 games as mediocre with scores of 4s to 6s. If MS was really on the payroll, wouldn't all of these mediocre games, which need an extra push and a good word, have scored something like 9 or 10? HUH? Gears of War scored high, but it did so every where else. OXM has only scored Gears of War and Oblivion and a couple others very high. Pretty much in line with many other publications.

For a magazine to be under total control by MS, you'd see very erratic, uneven, and biased scoring. But you don't, so all that are saying OXM UK is bunk, do some research next time, because I think your swift assumption is bunk.

[QUOTE="Blanco98"][QUOTE="whocares4peace"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"]

OXM = no credibility cuz they are on M$ payroll. Not that i dont doubt it wont get eh same score elsewheres. im really excited for this game.

whocares4peace

Btw, its gotten more than 1 review, 95% at PC gamer

If they would overrate games, it would be a disservice to their readers and the readers would abandon the mag after a couple of misleading reviews.

didn't OPM give killzone 1 a 9/10?

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yahoomail

jingle billy is a PS3 fanboy guys DONT FOLLOW whatever he says

people like him exists

Ill be happy as long as Bioshocks Single Player scores higher / is better than Halo 3's Sing Player. I got a bet going on with a friend. If this happens, I score a free Limited Edition Bioshock8)

If, it doesn't, my friend scores a free Limited Edition Halo 3. We have agreed to buy the other persons game for him if we lose:P

[QUOTE="yahoomail"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"]

OXM = no credibility cuz they are on M$ payroll. Not that i dont doubt it wont get eh same score elsewheres. im really excited for this game.

jigglebilly1983

I dont think bioshock is being produced by microsoft....

Read it more carefully. OXM, the people who wrote the review, are pretty much on M$ payroll. thats why its the OFFICIAL xbox magazine. Official single console game publications pretty much ALWAYS score games higher than other multi-platform publications or websites.

Forza 2 got an 8.25 or 8.5 can't remember.

*sigh*

Even if it is the official XBOX magazine, they still have only given ONE game a perfect 10 before Bioshock IIRC. Just because they are funded by MS does NOT mean that they're opinions are invalidated

That being said, Bioshock will be the best game ever and I think that is so nice

[QUOTE="yahoomail"][QUOTE="jigglebilly1983"]

OXM = no credibility cuz they are on M$ payroll. Not that i dont doubt it wont get eh same score elsewheres. im really excited for this game.

jigglebilly1983

I dont think bioshock is being produced by microsoft....

Read it more carefully. OXM, the people who wrote the review, are pretty much on M$ payroll. thats why its the OFFICIAL xbox magazine. Official single console game publications pretty much ALWAYS score games higher than other multi-platform publications or websites.

I's also on the PC. PC gamer gave it 95% . Good enough.