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Thesenew action rpgs just dont look as fun( except Star Ocean 4) as turnbased rpgs , i like me a good turn based rpgs sadly LOwas probably the last one :cry:blitzkid1dragon age, not sure about the witcher being turn based but it's good. Never give a rpg player an action rpg. Never give an action rpg player a rpg.
Turn based always gave more strategy involved..
Which is making me wonder why do these companies keep making rts's for consoles when with gamepad they are subpar to the pc.. Yet they don't make a single turn based strategy game (aside formt he new civ)?... To me games like FF tactics were superb, and one can only imagine how good they would be in this gen with a new coat of grpahics, more depth, and more mechanics..
I see turn based RGPs disapearing and I dont like at all. Not that I don't like other RPG styles, its just sometimes I think it is nice to be able to go as slow as I want when fighting a boss or large group of enemies.ekalbtwin
Agreed. There's much much more strategy involved in turn based boss fights than any other RPG genre.
Turn based gameplay can't appeal to today's short attention span gamer. They want action, even if it degrades the RPG experience to naught.Vandalvideo
The pause and play style used in D@D games works pretty well for both strategy and action. You aren't really forced to use it if you don't want to.
I want more turnbased RPGs as well, the strategy involved is why I enjoyed them so much.Saturos3091
Agreed.
I'm not a huge fan of turn-based/sRPGs, so the transition to actionRPGs is welcomed by me. I always said I wanted a game that was Castlevania meets Final Fantasy XD
For those who are saying "I don't" are you also saying that you don't want variety? That you want all the games to share the same gameplay? Because I DON'T
There needs to be more turn-based combat if you don't like it, you don't have to play it but there needs to be more for people like me.
I would love for FF13 to be using ATB again, best battle system IMO ever.Ragnarok1051
I might be wrong about this, but from the screenshots ive seen, it looks like there is a map in the top left corner in battle, similar to that of FF XII. Guess that means no turn based or ATB style battle system :(
Im interested to see what Nomura decides to do with vs XIII though.
For those who are saying "I don't" are you also saying that you don't want variety? That you want all the games to share the same gameplay? Because I DON'T
There needs to be more turn-based combat if you don't like it, you don't have to play it but there needs to be more for people like me.
VoodooGamer
I don't agree.. Not all action-rpg's are the same. See the difference between Infinite Undiscovery and Tales of Vesperia. Besides, even Square enix themselves said that rpg's are evolving, and more and more people want action-oriented rpg's. Face it, turnbased is dying.
Btw, when a company makes a turnbased game it takes away the chance that it could have been action-oriented and therefor one less game. This may sound stupid but more turnbased games equals less action-oriented and for some that's not a good thing so variety isn't always the best (especially when people might not like turnbased or vice versa)
[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]I would love for FF13 to be using ATB again, best battle system IMO ever.nicenator
I might be wrong about this, but from the screenshots ive seen, it looks like there is a map in the top left corner in battle, similar to that of FF XII. Guess that means no turn based or ATB style battle system :(
Im interested to see what Nomura decides to do with vs XIII though.
FFv13 is going to be an action-oriented rpg like kingdom hearts.
[QUOTE="VoodooGamer"]For those who are saying "I don't" are you also saying that you don't want variety? That you want all the games to share the same gameplay? Because I DON'T
There needs to be more turn-based combat if you don't like it, you don't have to play it but there needs to be more for people like me.
Cyberfairy
I don't agree.. Not all action-rpg's are the same. See the difference between Infinite Undiscovery and Tales of Vesperia. Besides, even Square enix themselves said that rpg's are evolving, and more and more people want action-oriented rpg's. Face it, turnbased is dying.
Well in RPGs you mean. Turn-based strategy is still very popular.
Well there are only two choices: variety or sameness. I don't want sameness and if that's what everyone else wants then maybe gaming isn't for me. ;)Btw, when a company makes a turnbased game it takes away the chance that it could have been action-oriented and therefor one less game. This may sound stupid but more turnbased games equals less action-oriented and for some that's not a good thing so variety isn't always the best (especially when people might not like turnbased or vice versa)
Cyber
[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Turn based gameplay can't appeal to today's short attention span gamer. They want action, even if it degrades the RPG experience to naught.Kez1984
The pause and play style used in D@D games works pretty well for both strategy and action. You aren't really forced to use it if you don't want to.
disagree.. Even pause and play gives you a lack of options.. They still have to dumb down numerous aspects of the D&D system to make it managable.
I don't. I consider turn-based RPG's to be outdated.Storm_Marine
Oh really? But not real-time of course which was around since 1980 predating any turn-based RPG. ;)
Oops, I'm sorry, I meant to say 1979.
[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]I don't. I consider turn-based RPG's to be outdated.VoodooGamer
Oh really? But not real-time of course which was around since 1980 predating any turn-based RPG. ;)
Oops, I'm sorry, I meant to say 1979.
Let's just say I think real-time has aged better than turn-based. :P
[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]I don't. I consider turn-based RPG's to be outdated.Kez1984
This coming from a guy with an avatar of a game that was an admitted clone of a 1999 pc game.
Umm......yeah ok.
[QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]I don't. I consider turn-based RPG's to be outdated.Storm_Marine
This coming from a guy with an avatar of a game that was an admitted clone of a 1999 pc game.
Umm......yeah ok.
Not that I really care, but you're refering to System Shock 2 right?
[QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Turn based gameplay can't appeal to today's short attention span gamer. They want action, even if it degrades the RPG experience to naught.sSubZerOo
The pause and play style used in D@D games works pretty well for both strategy and action. You aren't really forced to use it if you don't want to.
disagree.. Even pause and play gives you a lack of options.. They still have to dumb down numerous aspects of the D&D system to make it managable.
Options? D@D is still the Albert Einstein of RPG's compared to other RPG's. It's practically the groundwork for all other rpg's to emulate in some form or another. Even Neverwinter Nights 2, has more options than you can shake a stick at. Even the crafting system is fairly complicated.
[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"][QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]I don't. I consider turn-based RPG's to be outdated.Storm_Marine
This coming from a guy with an avatar of a game that was an admitted clone of a 1999 pc game.
Umm......yeah ok.
Not that I really care, but you're refering to System Shock 2 right?
Two Replies to my post, I'll assume you didn't know what game I was referring to and had to look it up.
Obviously you do care.
I'm not a huge fan of turn-based/sRPGs, so the transition to actionRPGs is welcomed by me. I always said I wanted a game that was Castlevania meets Final Fantasy XD
SlorgieNel
They already have that. The Castlevania games on both the GBA and DS have RPG elements to them like leveling up and money to buy new weapons and such. Those games are indeed very fun and some of my favorites. I can't wait for the new Castlevania.
I just wish they would use the same formula to those games for a console version. It would make Konami so much money.
[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"][QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]I don't. I consider turn-based RPG's to be outdated.Kez1984
This coming from a guy with an avatar of a game that was an admitted clone of a 1999 pc game.
Umm......yeah ok.
Not that I really care, but you're refering to System Shock 2 right?
Two Replies to my post, I'll assume you didn't know what game I was referring to and had to look it up.
Obviously you do care.
Actually the question came as an afterthought, but whatever.
Here's another question. What the heck does my Bioshock avatar have to do with my view of turn-based RPG's? :|
If you are interested in TB RPGs for the strategy apsect, then you shold check out king's bounty : the legend for pc. It not really like jrpg and it has a heavy emphasis on strategy more than anything elsenaval
That looks awesome. I'm going to check it out when I have a chance. Thanks for the recommendation :)
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