I was going to buy an xbox 360 just for halo reach, until i saw this...

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#1 babybinky
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZPTVnyh57E

I used to own an xbox 360 until it broke twice... i played halo 1, 2, and 3. i loved it and i miss it, halo is deffinitely the best multiplayer game of all time imo. After i saw this video I think halo reach won't feel like a "****c" halo game. they took out dual wielding which i thought gave the players an increased variety in combining different weapons together. remember the msg and pistol or plasma pistol? they even took out my favorite weapon, the battle rifle and replaced it with a similar weapon, but i think alot of people will be kinda mad about it. falling damage is in... this is halo, where u jump like ur on the moon! i can't beleive they put falling damage in the halo game, it just makes for a more frustrating gameplay. also, health no longer regenerates, which is stupid. if you're in a fire fight with someone, you're gonna take a few bullets no doubt. unless u find a health pack, ur in bad shape for the next fire fight. Last but not least, they added 5 new "perks" so to speak. this will be bad for the game i think. just think about it... the credit system looks kinda cool though... anyway, they should just remake halo 2 and call it like halo legend or something and put all the good weapons in it from halo 1 2 and 3 with all the good levels and updated graphics.

i love halo, but i don't think im going to flunk down $450 (the system, game, xbox live) just for halo reach. unless u guys can convince me... as of now im stickin with my ps3 and waiting for black ops.

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And we should convince you why? You basically just said everything new about the game was bad and that (in essence) you want the next halo to be exactly the same as previous entries into the series.
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#4 bobcheeseball
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Dont. It's generally a bad idea to buy a console for one game only. And you cant fault Halo Reach for making changes.

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#5 razgriz_101
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wow cool story...tbh its looking like the best halo since 1 :S

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#6 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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That video just raised my hype abit. it seems they have fixed some of the problems Halo 3 had

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#9 siddhu33
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That video just raised my hype abit. it seems they have fixed some of the problems Halo 3 had

toast_burner

And that's just a beta.

They have improved it since.

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#10 babybinky
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lol sorry for the big paragraph, it sucks im gonna miss out on halo reach... if only micrsoft didn't own it :'(
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#11 WilliamRLBaker
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lol sorry for the big paragraph, it sucks im gonna miss out on halo reach... if only micrsoft didn't own it :'(babybinky
ahhhh so it comes out now, you dont actually care about reach, your not gonna own a 360 or reach because its Microsoft, which nicely falls in line with your posting history.
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lol sorry for the big paragraph, it sucks im gonna miss out on halo reach... if only micrsoft didn't own it :'(babybinky

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZPTVnyh57E

I used to own an xbox 360 until it broke twice... i played halo 1, 2, and 3. i loved it and i miss it, halo is deffinitely the best multiplayer game of all time imo. After i saw this video I think halo reach won't feel like a "****c" halo game. they took out dual wielding which i thought gave the players an increased variety in combining different weapons together. remember the msg and pistol or plasma pistol? they even took out my favorite weapon, the battle rifle and replaced it with a similar weapon, but i think alot of people will be kinda mad about it. falling damage is in... this is halo, where u jump like ur on the moon! i can't beleive they put falling damage in the halo game, it just makes for a more frustrating gameplay. also, health no longer regenerates, which is stupid. if you're in a fire fight with someone, you're gonna take a few bullets no doubt. unless u find a health pack, ur in bad shape for the next fire fight. Last but not least, they added 5 new "perks" so to speak. this will be bad for the game i think. just think about it... the credit system looks kinda cool though... anyway, they should just remake halo 2 and call it like halo legend or something and put all the good weapons in it from halo 1 2 and 3 with all the good levels and updated graphics.

i love halo, but i don't think im going to flunk down $450 (the system, game, xbox live) just for halo reach. unless u guys can convince me... as of now im stickin with my ps3 and waiting for black ops.

babybinky

you're mad because they made it better? can't please everybody i guess

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lol sorry for the big paragraph, it sucks im gonna miss out on halo reach... if only micrsoft didn't own it :'(babybinky
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Ha, won't feel like classic Halo? Um actually it will, it'll feel like the first one, before dual wielding, before the battle rifle and no fall damage.
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#16 mitu123
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The guns are going to be more powerful anyways...

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#17 coreybg
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Rofl! You're not gonna play the game cuz they added recoil and fall damage and change a few buttons? xD

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#18 Leo-Magic
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[QUOTE="babybinky"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZPTVnyh57E

I used to own an xbox 360 until it broke twice... i played halo 1, 2, and 3. i loved it and i miss it, halo is deffinitely the best multiplayer game of all time imo. After i saw this video I think halo reach won't feel like a "****c" halo game. they took out dual wielding which i thought gave the players an increased variety in combining different weapons together. remember the msg and pistol or plasma pistol? they even took out my favorite weapon, the battle rifle and replaced it with a similar weapon, but i think alot of people will be kinda mad about it. falling damage is in... this is halo, where u jump like ur on the moon! i can't beleive they put falling damage in the halo game, it just makes for a more frustrating gameplay. also, health no longer regenerates, which is stupid. if you're in a fire fight with someone, you're gonna take a few bullets no doubt. unless u find a health pack, ur in bad shape for the next fire fight. Last but not least, they added 5 new "perks" so to speak. this will be bad for the game i think. just think about it... the credit system looks kinda cool though... anyway, they should just remake halo 2 and call it like halo legend or something and put all the good weapons in it from halo 1 2 and 3 with all the good levels and updated graphics.

i love halo, but i don't think im going to flunk down $450 (the system, game, xbox live) just for halo reach. unless u guys can convince me... as of now im stickin with my ps3 and waiting for black ops.

sure the old halo 2 is the legend, but if you like halo 2 the most why not just stick with it? Halo Reach is a new game, we always expect new things and new chages. if you dont even give a try that would be your own loses . Halo will still shine without you.
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#19 SSJ_Nega
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I thought the video was nice. I might pick up Reach now.

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#20 CagedOkami
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Dont. It's generally a bad idea to buy a console for one game only. And you cant fault Halo Reach for making changes.

bobcheeseball

ya he can, not all change is good. are you seriously going to obey bunjie and agree with everything they do or say.

this guy formed his own opinion and disagrees with bunjie, dont be the mindless fanboy, become a gamer.

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#21 hyperjayson
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[QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]

Dont. It's generally a bad idea to buy a console for one game only. And you cant fault Halo Reach for making changes.

CagedOkami

ya he can, not all change is good. are you seriously going to obey bunjie and agree with everything they do or say.

this guy formed his own opinion and disagrees with bunjie, dont be the mindless fanboy, become a gamer.

also, learn spelligsfjdgnfdg

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#22 CagedOkami
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And we should convince you why? You basically just said everything new about the game was bad and that (in essence) you want the next halo to be exactly the same as previous entries into the series. designer-

thats his opinion.

and so what if he likes the previous versions better, so what.

do you believe every change bunjie makes is for the better? if so you are mindless zombie(aka fanboy)

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#23 CagedOkami
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[QUOTE="CagedOkami"]

[QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]

Dont. It's generally a bad idea to buy a console for one game only. And you cant fault Halo Reach for making changes.

hyperjayson

ya he can, not all change is good. are you seriously going to obey bunjie and agree with everything they do or say.

this guy formed his own opinion and disagrees with bunjie, dont be the mindless fanboy, become a gamer.

also, learn spelling

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And we should convince you why? You basically just said everything new about the game was bad and that (in essence) you want the next halo to be exactly the same as previous entries into the series. designer-
please change your avatar..... inverting it doesn't change who it represents, and nobody on here should be associated with them. and it would be stupid to drop 450 for one game plain and simple.
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#25 hellhund
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lol, all of your complaints are the only things that draw my interest.

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#26 thrillh0
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZPTVnyh57E

I used to own an xbox 360 until it broke twice... i played halo 1, 2, and 3. i loved it and i miss it, halo is deffinitely the best multiplayer game of all time imo. After i saw this video I think halo reach won't feel like a "****c" halo game. they took out dual wielding which i thought gave the players an increased variety in combining different weapons together. remember the msg and pistol or plasma pistol? they even took out my favorite weapon, the battle rifle and replaced it with a similar weapon, but i think alot of people will be kinda mad about it. falling damage is in... this is halo, where u jump like ur on the moon! i can't beleive they put falling damage in the halo game, it just makes for a more frustrating gameplay. also, health no longer regenerates, which is stupid. if you're in a fire fight with someone, you're gonna take a few bullets no doubt. unless u find a health pack, ur in bad shape for the next fire fight. Last but not least, they added 5 new "perks" so to speak. this will be bad for the game i think. just think about it... the credit system looks kinda cool though... anyway, they should just remake halo 2 and call it like halo legend or something and put all the good weapons in it from halo 1 2 and 3 with all the good levels and updated graphics.

i love halo, but i don't think im going to flunk down $450 (the system, game, xbox live) just for halo reach. unless u guys can convince me... as of now im stickin with my ps3 and waiting for black ops.

babybinky

Gamertag? Otherwise, this is some cool Sony fanfic. Gratz.

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#27 pc-ps360
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i dont believe u.

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[QUOTE="designer-"]And we should convince you why? You basically just said everything new about the game was bad and that (in essence) you want the next halo to be exactly the same as previous entries into the series. sno2point0
please change your avatar..... inverting it doesn't change who it represents, and nobody on here should be associated with them. and it would be stupid to drop 450 for one game plain and simple.

If your referring to the anti Scientology movement then I fail to see the issue. If your referrring to the Internet concept that developed around it then I again, fail to see the issue.
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[QUOTE="designer-"]And we should convince you why? You basically just said everything new about the game was bad and that (in essence) you want the next halo to be exactly the same as previous entries into the series. CagedOkami

thats his opinion.

and so what if he likes the previous versions better, so what.

do you believe every change bunjie makes is for the better? if so you are mindless zombie(aka fanboy)

This TC has come on and asked system wars posters to convince him whether or not to spend $450 on a console he will apparently only buy one game for and you accuse the people that respond to him of being zombies? Personally I think this whole thread is made up to get a dig in about the 360's most anticipated game, I don't see any reason this warrants a thread otherwise.

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#30 Cloud567kar
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZPTVnyh57E

I used to own an xbox 360 until it broke twice... i played halo 1, 2, and 3. i loved it and i miss it, halo is deffinitely the best multiplayer game of all time imo. After i saw this video I think halo reach won't feel like a "****c" halo game. they took out dual wielding which i thought gave the players an increased variety in combining different weapons together. remember the msg and pistol or plasma pistol? they even took out my favorite weapon, the battle rifle and replaced it with a similar weapon, but i think alot of people will be kinda mad about it. falling damage is in... this is halo, where u jump like ur on the moon! i can't beleive they put falling damage in the halo game, it just makes for a more frustrating gameplay. also, health no longer regenerates, which is stupid. if you're in a fire fight with someone, you're gonna take a few bullets no doubt. unless u find a health pack, ur in bad shape for the next fire fight. Last but not least, they added 5 new "perks" so to speak. this will be bad for the game i think. just think about it... the credit system looks kinda cool though... anyway, they should just remake halo 2 and call it like halo legend or something and put all the good weapons in it from halo 1 2 and 3 with all the good levels and updated graphics.

i love halo, but i don't think im going to flunk down $450 (the system, game, xbox live) just for halo reach. unless u guys can convince me... as of now im stickin with my ps3 and waiting for black ops.

babybinky

Seems like you need to do more research on the game, you still have shields, but also health. You will mostly rely on your shield which still respawns while health can only take a couple hits before you die.

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#31 Da_lil_PimP
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Why are you mad about the BR being taken out. That gun was garbage and broken. About the fall damage, Halo CE had it, and since Reach is a prequel to CE, it just makes to have it since those were the first ever spartans, their suits weren't very good. Same goes for the health system.

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[QUOTE="designer-"]And we should convince you why? You basically just said everything new about the game was bad and that (in essence) you want the next halo to be exactly the same as previous entries into the series. CagedOkami

thats his opinion.

and so what if he likes the previous versions better, so what.

do you believe every change bunjie makes is for the better? if so you are mindless zombie(aka fanboy)

I believe that change is for the better. I also believe that if no changes were made this exact thread would pop up criticizing the game for its stagnation.
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#33 oajlu
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it will only cost you $100 to get fat 360 arcade now...live fee is around $40 an year.

so yeah it's a lot cheaper than slim version.

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#34 Funconsole
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No one here really cares about whether you buy the 360 or not soo...
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#35 Ross_the_Boss6
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Er, a lot of those "changes" you listed were actually changes made by Halo 2. We couldn't dual-wield in CE, we took falling damage, and we had a health bar in addition to shields.

Personally, as a huge Halo fan, I like the changes they made. That video got me more excited for the game.

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#37 Karnage108
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The game looks really good so I wouldn't pre-judge it if I were you. People always complain when changes aren't made so the least you could do is give the game a chance.
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#38 Riverwolf007
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lulz...

here is my impression of every topic like this on sw:

topic guy: "i'm not buying a 360 because of reason "X".

Lems: "so what who needs you"

other topic guy: i'm not buying a ps3 because of reason "X".

cows: "god oh god please buy one please please please!! ur crazy if you don't!!"

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#39 Raymundo_Manuel
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They took out dual wielding because there was no point. They'd balance it, and find that people either never used it, or it was never actually better than a single gun anyways. Two maulers in Halo 3 is just as good as one mauler because Bungie couldn't just go and make dual wielding the most overpowered thing in the game, but there was no point in using dual maulers because it was better to have a mauler and a different gun. Same story for all the combos you could have.

The battle rifle was replaced with the DMR which dealt with the issue of bullet spray. If you didn't notice all weapons with zoom will become increasingly less accurate each time you fire them. The reticle goes back to it's original size after not firing for a second or two. Basically this fixes the fights where someone can use a battle rifle, and not 4 shot someone with headshots because one or two of the three burt fire bullets didn't hit the targets head which trust me if you played a lot of Halo you've experienced that, and it's frustrating. The DMR makes sure that if you have good accuracy you will hit the targets head with all your shots, and it's not left up to some random chance that you might not kill them in the necessary amount of shots.

Fall damage was in the original Halo. They're putting it back. Nothing wrong here.

Same goes with health. It's now back to the original Halo CE state where it was a shield regen, and you needed health packs. Much better that way.

I'm sure you're talking about the loadouts when you say perks, and all of them are cool. It adds more variety to Halo Reach, and should not be a complaint from anyone. Especially when Bungie is known to balance their games. None of the perks gave any advantage over the others from my experience in the beta.

Sounds to me, OP, that you didn't even play the beta, and you're just making assumptions here on how Halo Reach will be based on a youtube video? :?I'd suggest not doing that in the future.

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Why do people always read about features in something and then call doomsday? Bungie aren't stupid. Duel-wielding was gonna RUIN halo remember?
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#41 IndianaPwns39
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You can get a cheap 360 for $80-100, which isn't terrible. Don't go out and buy the most expensive 360 there is for a single game.

Reach has some changes, sure, and while some of them needed fixing it truly was a throwback to CE. Can you really blame Bungie for doing this? Everywhere you go you hear people ***** and moan how great CE was and how the series went downhill.

The "perks" you're complaining about spice up the gameplay and, in some cases, help with teamwork. It doesn't break the game at all.

On paper, it doesn't seem like a Halo game. Did you play the beta? I did, and it felt very much like Halo and was very, very enjoyable.

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#42 delta3074
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wow cool story...tbh its looking like the best halo since 1 :S

razgriz_101
completely agree, i am glad they went back to CE and threw out the duel wielding, duel wielding is cool at first, but it gets old really quick and really annoying,unless it's left4dead, where you use one trigger to fire both guns.
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#43 madsnakehhh
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i love halo, but i don't think im going to flunk down $450 (the system, game, xbox live) just for halo reach. unless u guys can convince me... as of now im stickin with my ps3 and waiting for black ops.

babybinky

Why should i convince you? is not my fault you don't like MS, are you really that insecure so you need some strangers in a forum convince you about something?...it's kind of sad actually, maybe in a few years you'll going to come again asking if you should marry to certain girl.

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#44 General_X
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Sounds like they're trying to revert it back to Halo 1, which is a good thing.
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#45 Dahaka-UK
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I liked a lot of those changes. Sounds much more like Halo 1. Which is the best in the damn series.

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#46 Oonga
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That........actually got me pretty hyped :shock:

I was definately not going to get it but now i probably will. Damnit this ALWAYS happens. I keep getting sucked into the Halo hype a month or 2 before. Atleast this time i wont have a 360 so il have to wait till April. Even then, Gears 3 so.........

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#47 JordanizPro
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[QUOTE="babybinky"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZPTVnyh57E

I used to own an xbox 360 until it broke twice... i played halo 1, 2, and 3. i loved it and i miss it, halo is deffinitely the best multiplayer game of all time imo. After i saw this video I think halo reach won't feel like a "****c" halo game. they took out dual wielding which i thought gave the players an increased variety in combining different weapons together. remember the msg and pistol or plasma pistol? they even took out my favorite weapon, the battle rifle and replaced it with a similar weapon, but i think alot of people will be kinda mad about it. falling damage is in... this is halo, where u jump like ur on the moon! i can't beleive they put falling damage in the halo game, it just makes for a more frustrating gameplay. also, health no longer regenerates, which is stupid. if you're in a fire fight with someone, you're gonna take a few bullets no doubt. unless u find a health pack, ur in bad shape for the next fire fight. Last but not least, they added 5 new "perks" so to speak. this will be bad for the game i think. just think about it... the credit system looks kinda cool though... anyway, they should just remake halo 2 and call it like halo legend or something and put all the good weapons in it from halo 1 2 and 3 with all the good levels and updated graphics.

i love halo, but i don't think im going to flunk down $450 (the system, game, xbox live) just for halo reach. unless u guys can convince me... as of now im stickin with my ps3 and waiting for black ops.

Dude stop making threads about your hate towards Microsoft.Nobody cares......Oh and Reach will be epic
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#48 Rhino53
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I just hope they don't add too much stuff... I mean look at what MW2 turned out to be...:|

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#49 twitchmonkey399
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also, health no longer regenerates, which is stupid. if you're in a fire fight with someone, you're gonna take a few bullets no doubt. unless u find a health pack, ur in bad shape for the next fire fight.babybinky
This is not right. Health regenerates in the form of shields like all halo games (except ODST, which simply gave it a new name by calling it "stamina"), but you also have a health bar that will take damage when your shields are down. This health bar is the only thing that is affected by getting a health pack. It should be noted that headshots on shieldless bodies are still instant-kills, regardless of the amount of health remaining (which is why they are also referred to as "one-shots" in the Halo community). So as long as you stay accurate, the health won't make much of a difference in a fight between decent players. And if your opponent isn't a decent player i.e. he's a bad player, then you'll kill him before he even takes down your shields. So it all works out, if you take a minute to look into the details.
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#50 kweeni
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Scared of a little change much? Don't buy it then.