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#1 Trashface
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This post will probably bring alot of tears and whining from Sony fanboys, but the following is the way it is. Things are looking bad for PS3 owners. Why? I'll tell ya why. I was thinking about purchasing a PS3. I was under the false impression that it would be the best of the best. After it arrived and I did research, as time went on, I found that the graphics were generally equal to the 360 and the PS3 had no stand-out launch games(don't try to come in with the whole"but the 360 launch titles were worse" because its totally irrelevant). Basically, the PS3 was and is too expensive and has a very weak library. The only thing it has going for it is Blu Ray and a larger HD which aren't large enough factors. The only reason people would give for buying it is that the PS3 would come out with stellar games in the future. The first 2 (supposed to be) stellar games? VF5 and Motorstorm. You know what happened there. If I were a Sony fan, I would be disturbed that these huge titles were let downs. It could be an indication of future disappointment. No one should take a gamble and buy a system for what games WILL come in the future. Looks like that gamble may not be paying off. Maybe Metal gear, Final Fantasy, and god of war won't be restrained by a developer-unfriendly design. If I'd purchased a PS3, I'd be worried.
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#2 Bossoma
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If I could afford a PS3 I'd buy a Wii and 360 instead. The same games that are gonna be on the PS3 will make an appearance on the 360 as well. Not all as there will be exclusive titles on the PS3 but forking that amount of money out for that isn't worth it. I can't say the PS3 is 'crap' as I haven't played on it before but looking at the games at comparing them to the 360, the 360 isn't far off.
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I'm not, want a cookie?
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Anyone who thought Motorstorm was gonna blow people away should have taken a step back from their rampant fanboyism and taken more sober look at the game. The demo was terrible. The Japanease version was pathetic....
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I'm not, want a cookie?Ibacai
Why would I want a cookie?
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This post will probably bring alot of tears and whining from Sony fanboys, but the following is the way it is. Things are looking bad for PS3 owners. Why? I'll tell ya why. I was thinking about purchasing a PS3. I was under the false impression that it would be the best of the best. After it arrived and I did research, as time went on, I found that the graphics were generally equal to the 360 and the PS3 had no stand-out launch games(don't try to come in with the whole"but the 360 launch titles were worse" because its totally irrelevant). Basically, the PS3 was and is too expensive and has a very weak library. The only thing it has going for it is Blu Ray and a larger HD which aren't large enough factors. The only reason people would give for buying it is that the PS3 would come out with stellar games in the future. The first 2 (supposed to be) stellar games? VF5 and Motorstorm. You know what happened there. If I were a Sony fan, I would be disturbed that these huge titles were let downs. It could be an indication of future disappointment. No one should take a gamble and buy a system for what games WILL come in the future. Looks like that gamble may not be paying off. Maybe Metal gear, Final Fantasy, and god of war won't be restrained by a developer-unfriendly design. If I'd purchased a PS3, I'd be worried. Trashface
good for you... Next lemming please!
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Well I have a PS3 and why would I be worried !? X-box users in the previous gen where happy with their console even if the PS2 totaly dominated that era. So if ever that indeed the PS3 wont be able to take the crown this generation then whats the big deal? I will just wait for about 3 or 4 years on what will be the outcome of the market and buy 360 if necessary. :lol: Also by then the 360 would be cheaper.

Why would be worried? Unless if anyone of us is working with Sony or Microsoft then there is no reason to side and stick with one system, we are consumers in the market and we should have fun!

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i agree!

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#9 SolidTy
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Another PS3 bashing thread, *SIGH*

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#10 Stumpt25
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i agree!

daveg1
yeah, lol, but ive never seen you give a constructive, none bias comment.... so to be honest... ure opinion matters not
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#11 JCblueside
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i agree!

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To whom?

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#12 daveg1
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I be worried if I agreed with anyone in any subject named Trashface...to each their own though.SolidTy
and you think solidty and xtx are better....................:roll:

they are just user names ....get over it!

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#13 Trashface
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[QUOTE="Trashface"]This post will probably bring alot of tears and whining from Sony fanboys, but the following is the way it is. Things are looking bad for PS3 owners. Why? I'll tell ya why. I was thinking about purchasing a PS3. I was under the false impression that it would be the best of the best. After it arrived and I did research, as time went on, I found that the graphics were generally equal to the 360 and the PS3 had no stand-out launch games(don't try to come in with the whole"but the 360 launch titles were worse" because its totally irrelevant). Basically, the PS3 was and is too expensive and has a very weak library. The only thing it has going for it is Blu Ray and a larger HD which aren't large enough factors. The only reason people would give for buying it is that the PS3 would come out with stellar games in the future. The first 2 (supposed to be) stellar games? VF5 and Motorstorm. You know what happened there. If I were a Sony fan, I would be disturbed that these huge titles were let downs. It could be an indication of future disappointment. No one should take a gamble and buy a system for what games WILL come in the future. Looks like that gamble may not be paying off. Maybe Metal gear, Final Fantasy, and god of war won't be restrained by a developer-unfriendly design. If I'd purchased a PS3, I'd be worried. Stumpt25
good for you... Next lemming please!

I'm no "lemming". Those gaming terms are silly and immature to me. My post is full of logic and unless you have a logical response, you probably shouldn't respond at all.
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#14 daveg1
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[QUOTE="daveg1"]

i agree!

JCblueside

To whom?

the tc...even though you had a good point at the end of your post.........dont go blowin it though.:wink:
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Well I have a PS3 and why would I be worried !? X-box users in the previous gen where happy with their console even if the PS2 totaly dominated that era. So if ever that indeed the PS3 wont be able to take the crown this generation then whats the big deal? I will just wait for about 3 or 4 years on what will be the outcome of the market and buy 360 if necessary. :lol: Also by then the 360 would be cheaper.

Why would be worried? Unless if anyone of us is working with Sony or Microsoft then there is no reason to side and stick with one system, we are consumers in the market and we should have fun!

JCblueside

good point and well made!

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 This is just another mediocre topic done to death in SW and shouldn't be tolerated.

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#17 Trashface
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I be worried if I agreed with anyone in any subject named Trashface...to each their own though.SolidTy
If you're so ignorant as to judge people by user names, then I pity you.
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[QUOTE="Stumpt25"][QUOTE="Trashface"]This post will probably bring alot of tears and whining from Sony fanboys, but the following is the way it is. Things are looking bad for PS3 owners. Why? I'll tell ya why. I was thinking about purchasing a PS3. I was under the false impression that it would be the best of the best. After it arrived and I did research, as time went on, I found that the graphics were generally equal to the 360 and the PS3 had no stand-out launch games(don't try to come in with the whole"but the 360 launch titles were worse" because its totally irrelevant). Basically, the PS3 was and is too expensive and has a very weak library. The only thing it has going for it is Blu Ray and a larger HD which aren't large enough factors. The only reason people would give for buying it is that the PS3 would come out with stellar games in the future. The first 2 (supposed to be) stellar games? VF5 and Motorstorm. You know what happened there. If I were a Sony fan, I would be disturbed that these huge titles were let downs. It could be an indication of future disappointment. No one should take a gamble and buy a system for what games WILL come in the future. Looks like that gamble may not be paying off. Maybe Metal gear, Final Fantasy, and god of war won't be restrained by a developer-unfriendly design. If I'd purchased a PS3, I'd be worried. Trashface
good for you... Next lemming please!

I'm no "lemming". Those gaming terms are silly and immature to me. My post is full of logic and unless you have a logical response, you probably shouldn't respond at all.

correct! ...............................................................................................................bias logic
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I'd be worried if I purchased an Xbox360. I definitely would have gone with the extended warranty had I gone that route but even then, what kind of protection do I have? 2 years? If the system is experiencing this many hardware errors now, how bad is it going to be 3-4 years down the line? See how fans of both systems can find silly things to nitpick at? ;)
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[QUOTE="daveg1"]

i agree!

Stumpt25

yeah, lol, but ive never seen you give a constructive, none bias comment.... so to be honest... ure opinion matters not

checkin 2 or 3 posts into my post history doesnt count..............................:roll:

unlike some here im a realist and dont fall for all the stuff ten year old's do...good day.

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#21 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]I be worried if I agreed with anyone in any subject named Trashface...to each their own though.Trashface
If you're so ignorant as to judge people by user names, then I pity you.

Pity away, TRASHFACE. Pity away. :)

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[QUOTE="JCblueside"][QUOTE="daveg1"]

i agree!

daveg1

To whom?

the tc...even though you had a good point at the end of your post.........dont go blowin it though.:wink:

:P

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#23 Trashface
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Well I have a PS3 and why would I be worried !? X-box users in the previous gen where happy with their console even if the PS2 totaly dominated that era. So if ever that indeed the PS3 wont be able to take the crown this generation then whats the big deal? I will just wait for about 3 or 4 years on what will be the outcome of the market and buy 360 if necessary. :lol: Also by then the 360 would be cheaper.

Why would be worried? Unless if anyone of us is working with Sony or Microsoft then there is no reason to side and stick with one system, we are consumers in the market and we should have fun!

JCblueside
My worry would be that the system would die leaving me high and dry. It probably won't completely tank, but the high price+weak library is very bad news. You're right about being able to buy a 360 if it tanks, but that's $600 lost. Then again, how important is money really? 10 years ago, we were spending over a grand on pentium 2 computers.
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]I be worried if I agreed with anyone in any subject named Trashface...to each their own though.Trashface
If you're so ignorant as to judge people by user names, then I pity you.

if you are so ignorant to judge a console by its first 3 months then i envy your ignorance and can only dream of the bliss you preside in.
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#25 daveg1
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[QUOTE="daveg1"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]I be worried if I agreed with anyone in any subject named Trashface...to each their own though.SolidTy

and you think solidty and xtx are better....................:roll:

they are just user names ....get over it!

Okay, how's this :

It's quite possibly one of the most horrible and lame attempt at an actual thread and post.

I don't want to say it is a Real post, because it doesn't deserve any Relevancy, Whatsoever.

In fact, it isn't even the most horrible, scratch that, this thread isn't first in any category, even WORST.

your entitled to your own opinion even if it is narrow minded....if its so bad why do you commemnt? oh thats it you didint have anything to add did you other than.....oh look at his username.
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[QUOTE="Stumpt25"][QUOTE="Trashface"]This post will probably bring alot of tears and whining from Sony fanboys, but the following is the way it is. Things are looking bad for PS3 owners. Why? I'll tell ya why. I was thinking about purchasing a PS3. I was under the false impression that it would be the best of the best. After it arrived and I did research, as time went on, I found that the graphics were generally equal to the 360 and the PS3 had no stand-out launch games(don't try to come in with the whole"but the 360 launch titles were worse" because its totally irrelevant). Basically, the PS3 was and is too expensive and has a very weak library. The only thing it has going for it is Blu Ray and a larger HD which aren't large enough factors. The only reason people would give for buying it is that the PS3 would come out with stellar games in the future. The first 2 (supposed to be) stellar games? VF5 and Motorstorm. You know what happened there. If I were a Sony fan, I would be disturbed that these huge titles were let downs. It could be an indication of future disappointment. No one should take a gamble and buy a system for what games WILL come in the future. Looks like that gamble may not be paying off. Maybe Metal gear, Final Fantasy, and god of war won't be restrained by a developer-unfriendly design. If I'd purchased a PS3, I'd be worried. Trashface
good for you... Next lemming please!

I'm no "lemming". Those gaming terms are silly and immature to me. My post is full of logic and unless you have a logical response, you probably shouldn't respond at all.

Where's teh logic?
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#27 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="Trashface"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]I be worried if I agreed with anyone in any subject named Trashface...to each their own though.Call_me_Daddy
If you're so ignorant as to judge people by user names, then I pity you.

if you are so ignorant to judge a console by its first 3 months then i envy your ignorance and can only dream of the bliss you preside in.

I thought that was obvious...then again, this is expected in SW. Bash the PS3 all day, and a new day presides over us again, where we Bash the PS3 all day, and a new day presides...

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#28 Trashface
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[QUOTE="Trashface"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]I be worried if I agreed with anyone in any subject named Trashface...to each their own though.SolidTy

If you're so ignorant as to judge people by user names, then I pity you.

Pity away, TRASHFACE. Pity away. :)

Well, I don't actually pity you, but judging by usernames shows you aren't very intelligent. Did you actually have anything relevant to say about the post or are you just going to insult me because of my username? I hope you understand that I chose it willfully myself.
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[QUOTE="Trashface"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]I be worried if I agreed with anyone in any subject named Trashface...to each their own though.Call_me_Daddy
If you're so ignorant as to judge people by user names, then I pity you.

if you are so ignorant to judge a console by its first 3 months then i envy your ignorance and can only dream of the bliss you preside in.

Thankyou for some intelligence on these forums
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Well I have a PS3 and why would I be worried !? X-box users in the previous gen where happy with their console even if the PS2 totaly dominated that era. So if ever that indeed the PS3 wont be able to take the crown this generation then whats the big deal? I will just wait for about 3 or 4 years on what will be the outcome of the market and buy 360 if necessary. :lol: Also by then the 360 would be cheaper.

Why would be worried? Unless if anyone of us is working with Sony or Microsoft then there is no reason to side and stick with one system, we are consumers in the market and we should have fun!

JCblueside

This is the most logical post I've ever seen here.

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[QUOTE="JCblueside"]

Well I have a PS3 and why would I be worried !? X-box users in the previous gen where happy with their console even if the PS2 totaly dominated that era. So if ever that indeed the PS3 wont be able to take the crown this generation then whats the big deal? I will just wait for about 3 or 4 years on what will be the outcome of the market and buy 360 if necessary. :lol: Also by then the 360 would be cheaper.

Why would be worried? Unless if anyone of us is working with Sony or Microsoft then there is no reason to side and stick with one system, we are consumers in the market and we should have fun!

Trashface

My worry would be that the system would die leaving me high and dry. It probably won't completely tank, but the high price+weak library is very bad news. You're right about being able to buy a 360 if it tanks, but that's $600 lost. Then again, how important is money really? 10 years ago, we were spending over a grand on pentium 2 computers.

Are you expecting that the PS3 would do as bad as the Gamecube?

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#32 SolidTy
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There are more creative ways to bash PS3.

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#33 Trashface
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[QUOTE="Trashface"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]I be worried if I agreed with anyone in any subject named Trashface...to each their own though.Call_me_Daddy
If you're so ignorant as to judge people by user names, then I pity you.

if you are so ignorant to judge a console by its first 3 months then i envy your ignorance and can only dream of the bliss you preside in.

If everyone would read the post carefully, what I was saying is that PS3 buyers could only give one reason for buying it, how great the future games are. Every one of the great games have dissapointed. If I were a PS3 owner, this trend would worry me. That is plenty logical and not narrow minded. What I just typed wasn't even judging the system. As I predicted, the whining and tears have ensued even though eveything I typed made perfect sense and was totally civil.
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This post will probably bring alot of tears and whining from Sony fanboys, but the following is the way it is. Things are looking bad for PS3 owners. Why? I'll tell ya why. I was thinking about purchasing a PS3. I was under the false impression that it would be the best of the best. After it arrived and I did research, as time went on, I found that the graphics were generally equal to the 360 and the PS3 had no stand-out launch games(don't try to come in with the whole"but the 360 launch titles were worse" because its totally irrelevant). Basically, the PS3 was and is too expensive and has a very weak library. The only thing it has going for it is Blu Ray and a larger HD which aren't large enough factors. The only reason people would give for buying it is that the PS3 would come out with stellar games in the future. The first 2 (supposed to be) stellar games? VF5 and Motorstorm. You know what happened there. If I were a Sony fan, I would be disturbed that these huge titles were let downs. It could be an indication of future disappointment. No one should take a gamble and buy a system for what games WILL come in the future. Looks like that gamble may not be paying off. Maybe Metal gear, Final Fantasy, and god of war won't be restrained by a developer-unfriendly design. If I'd purchased a PS3, I'd be worried. Trashface


Do I care about what you care? No, Im not worried that I bought a PS3, just like I wasnt worried last gen when I bought a Xbox and Gamecube.
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#35 Trashface
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[QUOTE="Trashface"][QUOTE="JCblueside"]

Well I have a PS3 and why would I be worried !? X-box users in the previous gen where happy with their console even if the PS2 totaly dominated that era. So if ever that indeed the PS3 wont be able to take the crown this generation then whats the big deal? I will just wait for about 3 or 4 years on what will be the outcome of the market and buy 360 if necessary. :lol: Also by then the 360 would be cheaper.

Why would be worried? Unless if anyone of us is working with Sony or Microsoft then there is no reason to side and stick with one system, we are consumers in the market and we should have fun!

JCblueside

My worry would be that the system would die leaving me high and dry. It probably won't completely tank, but the high price+weak library is very bad news. You're right about being able to buy a 360 if it tanks, but that's $600 lost. Then again, how important is money really? 10 years ago, we were spending over a grand on pentium 2 computers.

Are you expecting that the PS3 would do as bad as the Gamecube?

It seems far-fetched at first, but when you think about it, it seems very possible. Gamecube had a much better library (thus far in the PS3's life) and was much cheaper. Judging by those factors, the PS3 could follow the way of the cube..or worse.
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#36 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="Call_me_Daddy"][QUOTE="Trashface"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]I be worried if I agreed with anyone in any subject named Trashface...to each their own though.Trashface
If you're so ignorant as to judge people by user names, then I pity you.

if you are so ignorant to judge a console by its first 3 months then i envy your ignorance and can only dream of the bliss you preside in.

If everyone would read the post carefully, what I was saying is that PS3 buyers could only give one reason for buying it, how great the future games are. Every one of the great games have dissapointed. If I were a PS3 owner, this trend would worry me. That is plenty logical and not narrow minded. What I just typed wasn't even judging the system. As I predicted, the whining and tears have ensued even though eveything I typed made perfect sense and was totally civil.

Do you really think it's a new Idea to strike a system down when it's new?

The PS2 was lashed at horribly, and that flopped. :roll: Heck, all system's, including my 360, were bashed when they come out. Still, the major players are lining up, and all the system's offer something unique for gamers.

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[QUOTE="daveg1"][QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="daveg1"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]I be worried if I agreed with anyone in any subject named Trashface...to each their own though.SolidTy

and you think solidty and xtx are better....................:roll:

they are just user names ....get over it!

Okay, how's this :

It's quite possibly one of the most horrible and lame attempt at an actual thread and post.

I don't want to say it is a Real post, because it doesn't deserve any Relevancy, Whatsoever.

In fact, it isn't even the most horrible, scratch that, this thread isn't first in any category, even WORST.

your entitled to your own opinion even if it is narrow minded....if its so bad why do you commemnt? oh thats it you didint have anything to add did you other than.....oh look at his username.

Narrowminded. You have been narrowminded for years now, so keep that opinion for yourself.

His mindless judging of a system that has been out for only 3 months, is narrowminded. Your defending him is narrowminded. Us being relegated to read another PS3 bashing thread torture. No thanks.

yeah thats right we GO WAY BACK dont we......

if its so bad then dont read it...i think you forget what forum your in here freind...correct me if im mistaken but it does say system wars at the top of this page doesnt it???  if you want topics praising each system then go to another forum...but anyway im finished with this as its going nowhere...good day to you.

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[QUOTE="JCblueside"][QUOTE="Trashface"][QUOTE="JCblueside"]

Well I have a PS3 and why would I be worried !? X-box users in the previous gen where happy with their console even if the PS2 totaly dominated that era. So if ever that indeed the PS3 wont be able to take the crown this generation then whats the big deal? I will just wait for about 3 or 4 years on what will be the outcome of the market and buy 360 if necessary. :lol: Also by then the 360 would be cheaper.

Why would be worried? Unless if anyone of us is working with Sony or Microsoft then there is no reason to side and stick with one system, we are consumers in the market and we should have fun!

Trashface

My worry would be that the system would die leaving me high and dry. It probably won't completely tank, but the high price+weak library is very bad news. You're right about being able to buy a 360 if it tanks, but that's $600 lost. Then again, how important is money really? 10 years ago, we were spending over a grand on pentium 2 computers.

Are you expecting that the PS3 would do as bad as the Gamecube?

It seems far-fetched at first, but when you think about it, it seems very possible. Gamecube had a much better library (thus far in the PS3's life) and was much cheaper. Judging by those factors, the PS3 could follow the way of the cube..or worse.

We will just see in the future.

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[QUOTE="Trashface"][QUOTE="Call_me_Daddy"][QUOTE="Trashface"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]I be worried if I agreed with anyone in any subject named Trashface...to each their own though.SolidTy

If you're so ignorant as to judge people by user names, then I pity you.

if you are so ignorant to judge a console by its first 3 months then i envy your ignorance and can only dream of the bliss you preside in.

If everyone would read the post carefully, what I was saying is that PS3 buyers could only give one reason for buying it, how great the future games are. Every one of the great games have dissapointed. If I were a PS3 owner, this trend would worry me. That is plenty logical and not narrow minded. What I just typed wasn't even judging the system. As I predicted, the whining and tears have ensued even though eveything I typed made perfect sense and was totally civil.

Do you really think it's a new Idea to strike a system down when it's new?

The PS2 was lashed at horribly, and that flopped. :roll: Heck, all system's, including my 360, were bashed when they come out. Still, the major players are lining up, and all the system's offer something unique for gamers.

This isn't about dissing or judging a system. I was saying the big titles so far have gotten lackluster reviews and it could indicate a trend of poor games in the future and that this would worry me if I owned the system. Who knows, maybe the PS3 will drop it's price and release super-awesome games that will take over the world. I would be worried. We'll see.
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yeah thats right we GO WAY BACK dont we......

if its so bad then dont read it...i think you forget what forum your in here freind...correct me if im mistaken but it does say system wars at the top of this page doesnt it???  if you want topics praising each system then go to another forum...but anyway im finished with this as its going nowhere...good day to you.

daveg1

Okay, fair enough. However, the way this forum reads, it should be called PS3 Wars, with some dabbling in SW here and there. It hasn't been SW for awhile.

If the PS3 was older, then maybe I could relate with his post, but right now, it's just too new to judge. Sure, Sony makes some mistakes, as do Nintendo, and M$, but overall, The Wii and PS3 are just getting going, so his post describing where it's going is too early and far off base. It's decribing a reality that many simply can't fathom, and here's why :

At This point, considering Heavy hitters like Gran Turismo, Ratchet, Devil May Cry, God Of War, Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid, Naughty Dog's Upcoming Games, and more haven't hit yet, it's hard to see the PS3 being in such a terrible shape, not to mention the fact most PS2 users haven't made the next gen jump. Now, we can't automatically assume they are all getting a PS3, but many will, if Sony plays their cards right.

Still, Good day to you.

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Well as a gamers we all have invested in products that were considered "no brainer" gadgets only to fall short of expectations. For some reason beyond the realm of logic Sony and its legion of fans seemed to think the PS3 could do no wrong. I will admit before the next gen consoles launched I was doing heavy consideration for all the consoles available, but as time progressed and the real facts sheet of these consoles were revealed, Sony was being the most deceptive of the three console makers.

Lets put all the cards on the table, ALL COMPANIES LIE TO SELL THEIR PRODUCTS period! There were plenty of issues with MS and the 360 that made me question if it was the right system for me, Ninty had its moments with the Wii, but Sony was just flat out trying to sell a "concept", not a gaming system. Gamers looking for a great gaming console were being duped into thinking they was getting the ultimate GAMING machine when they actually purchased a entry level blu-ray player with good gaming capabilities.....As a gamer, that level of deception is unacceptable!!!

As for the OP's comments, Sony fans should be worried about the PS3. The console has already been labeled the black sheep of the industry and common sense should tell you as a gamer, as a consumer, the PS3 is in serious trouble.....Keep in mind that a troubled console doesnt mean you cant enjoy the software lineup, just ask the Dreamcast fans about that subject. What matters is the industry that predominately backed Sony now heavily supports the rival consoles. Sony is not considered the cash cow, goto system this gen and thats the determining factor of what companies are willing to support the system.

Overall OP, you made a great topic, no fanboyism detected...

Game On...
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="Trashface"][QUOTE="Call_me_Daddy"] if you are so ignorant to judge a console by its first 3 months then i envy your ignorance and can only dream of the bliss you preside in.Trashface

If everyone would read the post carefully, what I was saying is that PS3 buyers could only give one reason for buying it, how great the future games are. Every one of the great games have dissapointed. If I were a PS3 owner, this trend would worry me. That is plenty logical and not narrow minded. What I just typed wasn't even judging the system. As I predicted, the whining and tears have ensued even though eveything I typed made perfect sense and was totally civil.

Do you really think it's a new Idea to strike a system down when it's new?

The PS2 was lashed at horribly, and that flopped. :roll: Heck, all system's, including my 360, were bashed when they come out. Still, the major players are lining up, and all the system's offer something unique for gamers.

This isn't about dissing or judging a system. I was saying the big titles so far have gotten lackluster reviews and it could indicate a trend of poor games in the future and that this would worry me if I owned the system. Who knows, maybe the PS3 will drop it's price and release super-awesome games that will take over the world. I would be worried. We'll see.

Sony has always had a propensity for having a mediocre to okay launch lineup, then approximately a Year Later, having the games people want.

What great PS2 games were out in this part of the PS2's life rocked? How about the PSOne? See what I mean.

Propaganda from other companies are just spreading like wildfire in online communities, but the thing is, like always, they will eventually fall flat.

In the meantime though, Will it sell a few more 360's? That's the nature of the game.

yeah thats right we GO WAY BACK dont we......

if its so bad then dont read it...i think you forget what forum your in here freind...correct me if im mistaken but it does say system wars at the top of this page doesnt it???  if you want topics praising each system then go to another forum...but anyway im finished with this as its going nowhere...good day to you.

daveg1

Okay, fair enough. However, the way this forum reads, it should be called PS3 Wars, with some dabbling in SW here and there. It hasn't been SW for awhile.

If the PS3 was older, then maybe I could relate with his post, but right now, it's just too new to judge. Sure, Sony makes some mistakes, as do Nintendo, and M$, but overall, The Wii and PS3 are just getting going, so his post describing where it's going is too early and far off base. It's decribing a reality that many simply can't fathom, and here's why :

At This point, considering Heavy hitters like Gran Turismo, Ratchet, Devil May Cry, God Of War, Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid, Naughty Dog's Upcoming Games, and more haven't hit yet, it's hard to see the PS3 being in such a terrible shape, not to mention the fact most PS2 users haven't made the next gen jump. Now, we can't automatically assume they are all getting a PS3, but many will, if Sony plays their cards right.

Still, Good day to you.

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[QUOTE="Call_me_Daddy"][QUOTE="Trashface"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]I be worried if I agreed with anyone in any subject named Trashface...to each their own though.Trashface
If you're so ignorant as to judge people by user names, then I pity you.

if you are so ignorant to judge a console by its first 3 months then i envy your ignorance and can only dream of the bliss you preside in.

If everyone would read the post carefully, what I was saying is that PS3 buyers could only give one reason for buying it, how great the future games are. Every one of the great games have dissapointed. If I were a PS3 owner, this trend would worry me. That is plenty logical and not narrow minded. What I just typed wasn't even judging the system. As I predicted, the whining and tears have ensued even though eveything I typed made perfect sense and was totally civil.

you say there is logic here, but none is to be found. you are just bashing ps3 and spewing pro MS/ xbox propaganda that is all you do, cus you are a what we here call a fanboy...
I wonder if this thread was made in response to the direct and obvious failure of Motorstorm to dethrone the 360. Simply put, the 360 has a larger, better selection of games than the PS3. It's also cheaper and is in the same graphical area. Are there any good reasons to buy a PS3? No, but there is the one bad reason that people buy this system. Biased , blind loyalty.Trashface
[QUOTE="fartgorilla"]Wow...do they actually think that'll fly? Charging PC gamers to play online?! The stupidity is...breathtaking. I don't know what to say!Trashface
Uh, you realize that Sony and Blizzard charge much more than $50 a year to play their online games right? Warcraft is the most popular online game in history and it has a monthly fee.

stay outta system wars dude, you arent any good at it...
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#44 Call_me_Daddy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="Trashface"][QUOTE="Call_me_Daddy"][QUOTE="Trashface"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]I be worried if I agreed with anyone in any subject named Trashface...to each their own though.Trashface

If you're so ignorant as to judge people by user names, then I pity you.

if you are so ignorant to judge a console by its first 3 months then i envy your ignorance and can only dream of the bliss you preside in.

If everyone would read the post carefully, what I was saying is that PS3 buyers could only give one reason for buying it, how great the future games are. Every one of the great games have dissapointed. If I were a PS3 owner, this trend would worry me. That is plenty logical and not narrow minded. What I just typed wasn't even judging the system. As I predicted, the whining and tears have ensued even though eveything I typed made perfect sense and was totally civil.

Do you really think it's a new Idea to strike a system down when it's new?

The PS2 was lashed at horribly, and that flopped. :roll: Heck, all system's, including my 360, were bashed when they come out. Still, the major players are lining up, and all the system's offer something unique for gamers.

This isn't about dissing or judging a system. I was saying the big titles so far have gotten lackluster reviews and it could indicate a trend of poor games in the future and that this would worry me if I owned the system. Who knows, maybe the PS3 will drop it's price and release super-awesome games that will take over the world. I would be worried. We'll see.

you are being very narrow here, most of these so called "flops" that are big name games that have come out have only scored low by gamespot standards... http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/932831.asp http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/928393.asp http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/928399.asp?q=resistance hardly flops according to the rest of the world, and casuals who make up most of the buying public dont care or dont know what gamespot is, so they will still buy the ps3 regardless of what out of touch reviewers and fanboys on here say
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Anyone who thought Motorstorm was gonna blow people away should have taken a step back from their rampant fanboyism and taken more sober look at the game. The demo was terrible. The Japanease version was pathetic....
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Next fanboy please. And learn how to spell Japanese.
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[QUOTE="Trashface"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="Trashface"][QUOTE="Call_me_Daddy"] if you are so ignorant to judge a console by its first 3 months then i envy your ignorance and can only dream of the bliss you preside in.SolidTy

If everyone would read the post carefully, what I was saying is that PS3 buyers could only give one reason for buying it, how great the future games are. Every one of the great games have dissapointed. If I were a PS3 owner, this trend would worry me. That is plenty logical and not narrow minded. What I just typed wasn't even judging the system. As I predicted, the whining and tears have ensued even though eveything I typed made perfect sense and was totally civil.

Do you really think it's a new Idea to strike a system down when it's new?

The PS2 was lashed at horribly, and that flopped. :roll: Heck, all system's, including my 360, were bashed when they come out. Still, the major players are lining up, and all the system's offer something unique for gamers.

This isn't about dissing or judging a system. I was saying the big titles so far have gotten lackluster reviews and it could indicate a trend of poor games in the future and that this would worry me if I owned the system. Who knows, maybe the PS3 will drop it's price and release super-awesome games that will take over the world. I would be worried. We'll see.

Sony has always had a propensity for having a mediocre to okay launch lineup, then approximately a Year Later, having the games people want.

What great PS2 games were out in this part of the PS2's life rocked? How about the PSOne? See what I mean.

Propaganda from other companies are just spreading like wildfire in online communities, but the thing is, like always, they will eventually fall flat.

In the meantime though, Will it sell a few more 360's? That's the nature of the game.



The examples you use is the reason the PS3 is in the situation it is today:

- When the PS1 launched it was in direct competition with the SNES and the Saturn. The Saturn was priced too high and excluded itself and the SNES was a aging machine. This gave Sony a nice window of opportunity to get its software up to speed and dominate the market.

-During the PS2 launch, the only competition it had at the time was the Dreamcast, a great lil system but didnt have the majority of industry support. This was another opoortunity for Sony to get things going to dominate the market.

-Now we have the PS3, a good gaming system but not a spectacular system. It launched in the face of two worthy opponents, one with a year catalog of games, and the other with a innovative, yet budget friendly console. This time Sony doesnt have the luxury of time to sit around, work things out and eventually provide the experience its consumers hoped for. Their business model of being fashionably late to the party that once brough success and profit is now biting them in the ass because they now realize the industry is not willing to wait on them to get up to speed.

Game On...
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This post will probably bring alot of tears and whining from Sony fanboys, but the following is the way it is. Things are looking bad for PS3 owners. Why? I'll tell ya why. I was thinking about purchasing a PS3. I was under the false impression that it would be the best of the best. After it arrived and I did research, as time went on, I found that the graphics were generally equal to the 360 and the PS3 had no stand-out launch games(don't try to come in with the whole"but the 360 launch titles were worse" because its totally irrelevant). Basically, the PS3 was and is too expensive and has a very weak library. The only thing it has going for it is Blu Ray and a larger HD which aren't large enough factors. The only reason people would give for buying it is that the PS3 would come out with stellar games in the future. The first 2 (supposed to be) stellar games? VF5 and Motorstorm. You know what happened there. If I were a Sony fan, I would be disturbed that these huge titles were let downs. It could be an indication of future disappointment. No one should take a gamble and buy a system for what games WILL come in the future. Looks like that gamble may not be paying off. Maybe Metal gear, Final Fantasy, and god of war won't be restrained by a developer-unfriendly design. If I'd purchased a PS3, I'd be worried. Trashface
the point of this thread is to scare away the potential buyers? you're whining about the price and weak libraries of a system that hasn't been out long. you have proved your point and did your homework so go pick up a 360 and gears of war.
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="Trashface"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="Trashface"][QUOTE="Call_me_Daddy"] if you are so ignorant to judge a console by its first 3 months then i envy your ignorance and can only dream of the bliss you preside in.FatalDomain

If everyone would read the post carefully, what I was saying is that PS3 buyers could only give one reason for buying it, how great the future games are. Every one of the great games have dissapointed. If I were a PS3 owner, this trend would worry me. That is plenty logical and not narrow minded. What I just typed wasn't even judging the system. As I predicted, the whining and tears have ensued even though eveything I typed made perfect sense and was totally civil.

Do you really think it's a new Idea to strike a system down when it's new?

The PS2 was lashed at horribly, and that flopped. :roll: Heck, all system's, including my 360, were bashed when they come out. Still, the major players are lining up, and all the system's offer something unique for gamers.

This isn't about dissing or judging a system. I was saying the big titles so far have gotten lackluster reviews and it could indicate a trend of poor games in the future and that this would worry me if I owned the system. Who knows, maybe the PS3 will drop it's price and release super-awesome games that will take over the world. I would be worried. We'll see.

Sony has always had a propensity for having a mediocre to okay launch lineup, then approximately a Year Later, having the games people want.

What great PS2 games were out in this part of the PS2's life rocked? How about the PSOne? See what I mean.

Propaganda from other companies are just spreading like wildfire in online communities, but the thing is, like always, they will eventually fall flat.

In the meantime though, Will it sell a few more 360's? That's the nature of the game.



The examples you use is the reason the PS3 is in the situation it is today:

- When the PS1 launched it was in direct competition with the SNES and the Saturn. The Saturn was priced too high and excluded itself and the SNES was a aging machine. This gave Sony a nice window of opportunity to get its software up to speed and dominate the market.

-During the PS2 launch, the only competition it had at the time was the Dreamcast, a great lil system but didnt have the majority of industry support. This was another opoortunity for Sony to get things going to dominate the market.

-Now we have the PS3, a good gaming system but not a spectacular system. It launched in the face of two worthy opponents, one with a year catalog of games, and the other with a innovative, yet budget friendly console. This time Sony doesnt have the luxury of time to sit around, work things out and eventually provide the experience its consumers hoped for. Their business model of being fashionably late to the party that once brough success and profit is now biting them in the ass because they now realize the industry is not willing to wait on them to get up to speed.

Game On...

no the reason saturn failed was because it had 2 cpu's and sega didnt offer proper tools, infact at initial releas saturn had higher software sales than ps1, but in the end it was way too hard to dev for cus the extra cpu was tacked on at the end of development to allow for 3d graphics. and dreamcast had great support cus dreamcast sold very well in its first year, its just that everyone was waiting for ps2. this time not everyone is ready for next gen, cus ps2 is still pumping out awesome games for casuals and they feel no need to spend $400 on up for a new system and pay for $60 games and $50 controllers just yet, but when GTA4 comes out the casuals will flock to one system or the other.
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[QUOTE="FatalDomain"][QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="Trashface"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="Trashface"][QUOTE="Call_me_Daddy"] if you are so ignorant to judge a console by its first 3 months then i envy your ignorance and can only dream of the bliss you preside in.Call_me_Daddy

If everyone would read the post carefully, what I was saying is that PS3 buyers could only give one reason for buying it, how great the future games are. Every one of the great games have dissapointed. If I were a PS3 owner, this trend would worry me. That is plenty logical and not narrow minded. What I just typed wasn't even judging the system. As I predicted, the whining and tears have ensued even though eveything I typed made perfect sense and was totally civil.

Do you really think it's a new Idea to strike a system down when it's new?

The PS2 was lashed at horribly, and that flopped. :roll: Heck, all system's, including my 360, were bashed when they come out. Still, the major players are lining up, and all the system's offer something unique for gamers.

This isn't about dissing or judging a system. I was saying the big titles so far have gotten lackluster reviews and it could indicate a trend of poor games in the future and that this would worry me if I owned the system. Who knows, maybe the PS3 will drop it's price and release super-awesome games that will take over the world. I would be worried. We'll see.

Sony has always had a propensity for having a mediocre to okay launch lineup, then approximately a Year Later, having the games people want.

What great PS2 games were out in this part of the PS2's life rocked? How about the PSOne? See what I mean.

Propaganda from other companies are just spreading like wildfire in online communities, but the thing is, like always, they will eventually fall flat.

In the meantime though, Will it sell a few more 360's? That's the nature of the game.



The examples you use is the reason the PS3 is in the situation it is today:

- When the PS1 launched it was in direct competition with the SNES and the Saturn. The Saturn was priced too high and excluded itself and the SNES was a aging machine. This gave Sony a nice window of opportunity to get its software up to speed and dominate the market.

-During the PS2 launch, the only competition it had at the time was the Dreamcast, a great lil system but didnt have the majority of industry support. This was another opoortunity for Sony to get things going to dominate the market.

-Now we have the PS3, a good gaming system but not a spectacular system. It launched in the face of two worthy opponents, one with a year catalog of games, and the other with a innovative, yet budget friendly console. This time Sony doesnt have the luxury of time to sit around, work things out and eventually provide the experience its consumers hoped for. Their business model of being fashionably late to the party that once brough success and profit is now biting them in the ass because they now realize the industry is not willing to wait on them to get up to speed.

Game On...

no the reason saturn failed was because it had 2 cpu's and sega didnt offer proper tools, infact at initial releas saturn had higher software sales than ps1, but in the end it was way too hard to dev for cus the extra cpu was tacked on at the end of development to allow for 3d graphics. and dreamcast had great support cus dreamcast sold very well in its first year, its just that everyone was waiting for ps2. this time not everyone is ready for next gen, cus ps2 is still pumping out awesome games for casuals and they feel no need to spend $400 on up for a new system and pay for $60 games and $50 controllers just yet, but when GTA4 comes out the casuals will flock to one system or the other.



Sorry my friend but I need to properly inform you...The Saturn was a bust from launch because the industry was caught offguard by Sega and their surprise launch along with a hefty pricetag. Of course the other factors mention contributed to the system demise but that information was not known to the average consumer. So from the gamers perspective: expensive + very few games = no thanks!!

As for the Dreamcast (I owned one as well) it had a great software lineup but didnt secure the much needed third party support. Yes I agree gamers were waiting for the PS2 but unfortunately so were developers, which left the Dreamcast to fend for itself with a lineup of mostly first party offerings which wasnt enough to in the end.

As for your comment about everyone not ready for the next gen, that is subject for interpretation. There are gamers who are just now purchasing a PS2 to start gaming but that doesnt account for much. The industry as a whole is in the next gen (current gen) and thats the focus of gaming right now.

Game On....


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This post will probably bring alot of tears and whining from Sony fanboys, but the following is the way it is. Things are looking bad for PS3 owners. Why? I'll tell ya why. I was thinking about purchasing a PS3. I was under the false impression that it would be the best of the best. After it arrived and I did research, as time went on, I found that the graphics were generally equal to the 360 and the PS3 had no stand-out launch games(don't try to come in with the whole"but the 360 launch titles were worse" because its totally irrelevant). Basically, the PS3 was and is too expensive and has a very weak library. The only thing it has going for it is Blu Ray and a larger HD which aren't large enough factors. The only reason people would give for buying it is that the PS3 would come out with stellar games in the future. The first 2 (supposed to be) stellar games? VF5 and Motorstorm. You know what happened there. If I were a Sony fan, I would be disturbed that these huge titles were let downs. It could be an indication of future disappointment. No one should take a gamble and buy a system for what games WILL come in the future. Looks like that gamble may not be paying off. Maybe Metal gear, Final Fantasy, and god of war won't be restrained by a developer-unfriendly design. If I'd purchased a PS3, I'd be worried. Trashface


just because you say the argument about the 360 launch is irrelevant doesn'rt mean it is each console generation last 5-6 yerars or 4 in xbox case. People buy a system not just for its current library but for its potential future ps3 does have the most worlwide developer support if you do your research you will find this to be true. right now its 4 months after launch if you don't feel like buying one right now thats fine you don't have to but somehow saying the console is in trouble when it is selling as well as the 360 did after its launch actually better because of a better supply.  If someone did buy it already they obviously felt that it would be worth it, nobody buys anything mindlessly even the most brainwashed fanboy will wait until there is at least one game he wants to play before buying the console even if it is a game that got bad reviews.

speaking of bad reviews the two games you mentioned actually got great reviews everywhere except GS and even here they got good and great ratings by GS scale. Many fans of VF are extremeley pleased with VF5 and it is the most technical fighting game out there right now. Motorstorm was said to be a great game but just too short on the options which it got severly penalized for doesn't take away the enjoyment people might get when playing these games.

I don't own a ps3 but I plan on buying one before the year is out I don't own a 360 but I have played a few games on it, its a great system but when I buy a system I look at what games I will be buying in the future right now I see myself buying the majority of my games for the sony system I don't have alot of disposible income to buy multiple consoles early in a lifecycle so the first one I buy is generally the one I feel I will play the most ever since the ps1 days  have went with the ps brand and I haven't been disapoointed and I have been through the slow first year so I really don't mind having only a few good games to choose from the fact is there are a few good games to choose from andto be honest the ps3 first year linup is looking very promising especially when you consider when I bought the ps2 ion jan 2001 there wasonly onimusha, tekken tag, and ssx that were really at all decent up until late summer when gt3 and twb got released so in my mind ps3 is off to a great start.

Just to play devil advocate if everybopdy bought system based on what was out the first year the ps2 never would have sold because the DC had an amazing library of games much larger and more varied than the 360. and In turn nobody would have bought the original xbox either cause when it launched both the DC and ps2 had superior linups.