Idk what the Xbone has to offer after Halo 5 tbh.

@nyadc: More like you just don't like the low score and try to discredit it.

Good man, that's what I like to see.

I remember the amount of shit that DmC got and whilst I don't think it's as good as the originals, it was SO exaggerated and extreme that it was obvious that the "reviews" on MC had no merit behind them.

I always hear "read fan review" but why bother, it's usually fanboys hating it for being exclusive to the company they hate or fanboys hyping it up as gods gift. You almost NEVER get reviews with any real merit behind them.

Exactly, dumb ass fanboys seem to forget that 3rd party games matter to. Xbox owners can play those as well so this whole dumb argument that Xbox don't have any games they like when they have a large library of 3rd party games as well is just dumb.

Here's the thing though, Halo 5 isn't getting low scores and you know it. It's doing the worst out of the main series critically sure but it's anything but "low scores".

Yeah... you've got nothing.

Dave, I like things more than other things, the things I like may not line up with what others like but objectivity is always my goal even if I get a bit side tracked.

@nyadc said:

@Legend002 said:

@nyadc: More like you just don't like the low score and try to discredit it.

Yeah... you've got nothing.

@davem1992 said:

Good man, that's what I like to see.

I remember the amount of shit that DmC got and whilst I don't think it's as good as the originals, it was SO exaggerated and extreme that it was obvious that the "reviews" on MC had no merit behind them.

I always hear "read fan review" but why bother, it's usually fanboys hating it for being exclusive to the company they hate or fanboys hyping it up as gods gift. You almost NEVER get reviews with any real merit behind them.

Dave, I like things more than other things, the things I like may not line up with what others like but objectivity is always my goal even if I get a bit side tracked.

I like things more than others things and I don't appreciate being called mentally insane or autistic over it so lets leave that there.

Also Kirsten Dunst.........you made me proud.

And there's another victory for the Legend in the books.

If by constantly ignoring points, producing no counter arguments and disregarding things that negate you is a victory, then by all means you're the victor.

I really need to find a way to block view of peoples posts on this website, there's got to be a greasemonkey script for that...

Stop it dude, I don't care for Halo 5 all that much either but stop already, you're not giving PS fans a good name here at all.

Below, Cuphead, Starpoint Gemini 2, Space Engineers, Halo Wars 2, Everspace, Scalebound, ReCore, Crackdown 3, Gears 4, Quantum Break, Ashen, Sea of Thieves, Cities Skylines, Elite:Dangerous Horizons, Superhot, Ad1ft, Happy Dungeons, Tacoma

plenty for me right there

HOW DID I FORGOT ABOUT CUPHEAD?!??!?!

That shit looks so damn good that I'm buying it on PC and Xbox One, thanks for the reminder.

Cities Skylines is coming to Xbox One? I'm happy for Xbox users, that's a fantastic game.

You are the one that's running. lol

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-one-getting-simcity-inspired-cities-skylines/1100-6429458/

Quantum Break, Scalebound, Recore, Halo Wars 2, Gears 4, there's lots of stuff on the way to look forward to and who knows what great unannounced titles are on the way. PS4 has more of my kind of games on the way but both consoles have plenty to offer.

Next year's lineup looks far better than anything the Xbox One has under its belt right now, so I don't know what to say to you.

@BigShotSmoov007: So true, a lot people here act like people with Xbox Ones or PS4's for that matter got stuck with them and didn't choose to purchase them.

I waited until Feburary 2014 to make my decision. Xbox One had the games I wanted and had games coming I was interested in. Then next was friends had already had or were getting the Xbox One, lastly Xbox One had features And apps I wanted.

If PS4 warranted a purchase from me I would have one but right now it serves no purpose. Don't get me wrong I was a little worried with Injustice just being on PS4 and not Xbox One that Netherrealm would do something stupid like make Mortal Kombat X exclusive to PS4 and then I would of had a Ps4.

Oh and I forgot to mention that I'm interested in Gears 4, so yeah 3 Xbox One exclusives I'm really interested in. Tomb Raider, Recore, and Sea of Theives can go kick rocks cause I don't think they will be my cup of tea.

Lol PS fan boy much?

But anyway, Xbone has a pretty decent lineup next year I think. Gears 4, Scalebound, Crackdown, ReCore, Quantum Break, Sea of Thieves... to name a few.

They aren't on the PS4, so they are meaningless.

Riiigghhhttttt. You're just mad because you're wrong to use user scores on MC as some sort of metric.

I DO know what a cow. No need to be upset about being a cow. You called H5 bad and you probably haven't even played it. That's exactly what a cow does.

And you're just mad cause nothing you say is right. Stay mad

BTW you do know what a hypocrite is right? You claim I only bash cows but do you run around talking about how you hate lems? How everyone only sees you bash lems while giving cows a break? Isn't that what you claim I'm doing? Wouldn't that make YOU a hypocrite as well?

Yep stay mad dude hahaha

Funny because I recall calling out Legend in this very same article, try again.

Funny how we established this just 2 days ago and we also established you're a hypocrite.

No one is mad, stay stupid moron hahaha

God forbid in here you voice you're own opinion and you say you choose the X1 then you get a lot of flack.

Wrong dude, just because you say it doesn't make it true. You've yet to provide ANY evidence to the contrary. Sorry but saying it doesn't make it so.

Can't refrain from the name calling I see. Pretty pathetic dude, pretty pathetic

You fully admitted that you give lems a free pass and only attack cows.....the very thing you give me shit over.

That fantasy land of yours is pathetic, truly pathetic.

Xbone lineup in 2016 is nothing but a barren wasteland of flops and broken dreams. Halo 5 was supposed to be the trump card for Xbone, now that it has flopped there's really nothing left. QB is the most promising looking game but even that will probably be an 8/10 at best. Meanwhile Sony is only gearing up in 2016 with their biggest exclusives.

@davem1992: I'm one of.those people that say to read user reviews, but I'm referring to Steam. You have to play a game.to review it there. Sites like Metacritic are the biggest joke around.

Again, you think that what takes place here reflects the outside world or how things are perceived and play out there, stop saying stupid things.

What I think reflects the outside world otherwise Sony wouldn't be selling over 29 million units while MS hides their numbers. It seems you're the one that needs to get in touch with reality. The Xbone flopped hard.

So what? Who cares if I give lems a free pass and choose to respond to cows instead? Why do you care so much? You going to cry more because I do? Give it a rest cause that's not going to change.

Hhahahahaha let's not talk about being pathetic hahahahahha you've provided enough ammo to prove otherwise hahahahaha

The Xbox One is selling great, its games have been consistently great as of late and a lot of people are very happy. You think that a game 'flopping' in some vote on a random forum equates to the reality of a game, how good it is or what actual normal people think of it, you're a simple minded fool. You need to stop equating what happens on System Wars and what a System Wars flop means with the actuality of the real world outside of this place, in that regard flop pertains to none of these things and you look stupid as a result.

Then why are MS hiding its numbers? MS spent the whole of last gen giving quarterly reports for the 360 and beating their chest at NPDs.

This gen they started out by reporting Xbone's individual shipments then after Titanflop failed to boost the Xbone enough they started combining Xbone and 360's numbers. Now they've totally stopped reporting numbers.

If they were selling "great" they wouldn't be getting outsold in their home market and getting destroyed in Europe and Japan to the point that they have to start hiding numbers lol. I know you love your Xbone but at least try to be honest with yourself.

PS: Xbone 2015 lineup was a flop. It was supposed to be the greatest in Xbox history but none of the games delivered that promise and you know it lol.

Sony always has something just around the corner. The problem is once you round the corner, Greatness is still out of reach. You'll never catch it. Dat hype.

and yet lems spent the whole year waiting for flops. When was the last time Xbone had a AAA exclusive?

@quadknight: halo only flopped here. In the real world Xbox owners are playing the shit out of it. The best Halo since part 2.

It flopped everywhere. It's an 85 on MC with a User score of 7.2. A far cry from its glory AAA days when Bungie was at the helm.

So naive... Oh children...

You see them as 'hiding' their numbers because you're an irrational fanboy who thinks corporate suits care about the public perception of unit sales and can't understand business structure or changes to appease shareholders. They don't need to report sales figures to the general public, they never did, and you think this is some devious plot to hide them... Get real... They don't give a **** about this stuff that you think is so important, they're concerned about selling units, not letting you know how many have sold to fuel some fanboy tyraid.

Getting outsold doesn't mean they're not selling great, they're still eclipsing the Xbox 360, the PlayStation 4's sales are an enigma brought on by Microsoft's initial Xbox One follies, not because it's some exuberantly superior device that is so much better. The Xbox One 2015 lineup has been great, there was a large gap to cope with as Sony has had several times now in its PlayStation 4 life but they've been delivering quality games and experiences. You're just being a dramatic idiot blowing things out of proportion like you're known for, this isn't a surprise.

Yep...

@quadknight: as a Xbox owner I am extremely happy with it. All my friends who play it are happy.

At least you had Bloodborne "only game of the year edition".

You having another meltdown?

All these personal insults are a bit unnecessary don't you think. You're only making yourself look like the butthurt fanboy, and you still haven't answered my question.

Why did MS stop reporting shipped numbers? Not even combined shipped numbers like they used to despite spending so many years reporting numbers in their past quarterly reports.

If you can't answer the question without crying and having a meltdown then don't bother replying to me.

I already answered it, stop being illiterate.

"You see them as 'hiding' their numbers because you're an irrational fanboy who thinks corporate suits care about the public perception of unit sales and can't understand business structure or changes to appease shareholders."

It's a business, policies change, reporting methods change, things change...

You and I both know it has nothing to do with any of that, it's because the numbers are much lower than Sony's and they have nothing to gain by revealing them. Yes assuming that the sales are bad because MS don't reveal them is stupid but we know why they won't reveal them

It's the same reason Sony were reluctant too last gen.

That is not an answer that's bullshit you made up on the spot.

For a company that reported numbers when they were doing well to suddenly stop reporting means they aren't doing well.

Why would they need to "appease shareholders" if the Xbone was doing so well like you say?

What are they likely at right now? 15 to 17 million units? Somewhere in that region? You think they would be ashamed to report that? Really? Come on dude... This isn't some elaborate scheme...

Shareholders and a board are who run a company, the CEO is just a face, the spokesman. They need to appease shareholders in the capacity of focusing on inward progression, delivering and internal figures, not on obtuse figures that have no bearing but console wars outside of the company. The only relevant figure to us games is Xbox Live user numbers, we don't need to know how many consoles have been sold, why would we?

I never said MS were ashamed and they'd have no reason to be but think Nya, if your biggest competitor was doing double your numbers whilst your busting your ass off trying to get people on board and it isn't paying off, getting constantly ridiculed to no end and also having investors breathing down your neck.

Wouldn't you be reluctant to release numbers when they're so much worse than the main competitors?

Even if the Xbone Live user numbers combine Gold + Silver users or people like my dad who registered for Xblive to play Solitaire on his Windows 10 laptop? LOL, nice way to judge "success" of the Xbox brand.

I can understand reluctance, however I think you guys are reading into this for far more than it actually is. It's clear that Phil Spencer is changing up the Xbox modus operandi, that much has been clear since day one, his whole thing has been we're not concerned with what our competitors are doing so much with what we're doing to please our consumers and potential consumers. Also he made those comments about console wars and how he hates it, despises it and I am sure tons of people within the company agree.

That right there is motivation enough to abolish general public unit sales figures, it removes a metric that causes so many more problems than are needed with no benefit.

I'm not reading into anything I honestly don't care how the sales play out but I know when someone is reluctant and wants to hide something. You give Spencer FAR FAR too much credit, he's a suit that is paid to say these things and appear like a great stand up guy.

I guarantee you that if he was on top he'd be as smug as some of the Sony employees are, stop acting like he's any different because he isn't.

You're making this about Spencer instead of understanding the underlying point, they've completely changed priorities and this move is a reflection of that.

They've changed it because they aren't winning this generation and nothing more than that.

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