If 360 is as powerful as PS3 then we would have seen it by now.

Come on guys, 360 was released a whole year before PS3 and yet MS expect us to believe that their devs are eventually going to surpass KZ2, why is it that Sony's 1st party were are able to constantly release games better looking than any multi-plats and yet MS release games like Crackdown 2, Fable III and Alan Wake which look extremely average but solid none the less. Surely if Killzone 2 was released in Feb 2009 then by now MS should have at least announced a game on par, especially considering that everyone's been working on the 360 for a year longer. Let's just admit PS3 is more powerful than 360.

Alan Wake looks average? I'd put it up there with the likes of some of the best PS3 exclusives. Not better, but not too far behind either.

Either way, the other side of the argument could be, if the PS3 were truly more powerful, why do the majority of multiplats look worse than the 360 counterpart?

Come on guys, 360 was released a whole year before PS3 and yet MS expect us to believe that their devs are eventually going to surpass KZ2, why is it that Sony's 1st party were are able to constantly release games better looking than any multi-plats and yet MS release games like Crackdown 2, Fable III and Alan Wake which look extremely average but solid none the less. Surely if Killzone 2 was released in Feb 2009 then by now MS should have at least announced a game on par, especially considering that everyone's been working on the 360 for a year longer. Let's just admit PS3 is more powerful than 360.

Clank-PS-Snake

As far as I can see it takes video experts on gaming websites to spot differences most of the time. To me that says they are even. If it helps you get up each day and feel good about yourself though i'll say PS3 if you like :P.

and then crytek 360 exclusives drops and Gears 3 drops, and so does the jaws drop.

You've already made this topic TC

And sorry, I dont play game for the graphics...

Come on guys, 360 was released a whole year before PS3 and yet MS expect us to believe that their devs are eventually going to surpass KZ2, why is it that Sony's 1st party were are able to constantly release games better looking than any multi-plats and yet MS release games like Crackdown 2, Fable III and Alan Wake which look extremely average but solid none the less. Surely if Killzone 2 was released in Feb 2009 then by now MS should have at least announced a game on par, especially considering that everyone's been working on the 360 for a year longer. Let's just admit PS3 is more powerful than 360.

Clank-PS-Snake

As far as Im concerned Crysis 2 and RAGE BOTH looked better than Killzone 2.It seems like MS has finally waken up and wants to take care of graphics,you could sense that by their presentations on E3 conference.

And just for the fact.Crackdown 2 is made of OLD,RENDERWARE engine.Thats engine that powered games like Vice city and GTA 3.Fable 3 uses modified Black and White engine and AW was just mess of development.Firstly made for PC and than port to 360 as open world game.Then when they made world make it 360 exclusive and linear...35 people on team...you get the point.No point in damage control,they are very close in terms of performance since E3 showed the truth...

I go by multiplatform games. Only scientific way to compare. 99% look better on 360, so I go by that.

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Come on guys, 360 was released a whole year before PS3 and yet MS expect us to believe that their devs are eventually going to surpass KZ2, why is it that Sony's 1st party were are able to constantly release games better looking than any multi-plats and yet MS release games like Crackdown 2, Fable III and Alan Wake which look extremely average but solid none the less. Surely if Killzone 2 was released in Feb 2009 then by now MS should have at least announced a game on par, especially considering that everyone's been working on the 360 for a year longer. Let's just admit PS3 is more powerful than 360.

Bus-A-Bus

As far as Im concerned Crysis 2 and RAGE BOTH looked better than Killzone 2.It seems like MS has finally waken up and wants to take care of graphics,you could sense that by their presentations on E3 conference.

And just for the fact.Crackdown 2 is made of OLD,RENDERWARE engine.Thats engine that powered games like Vice city and GTA 3.Fable 3 uses modified Black and White engine and AW was just mess of development.Firstly made for PC and than port to 360 as open world game.Then when they made world make it 360 exclusive and linear...35 people on team...you get the point.No point in damage control,they are very close in terms of performance since E3 showed the truth...

Gears of War 3 is looking just as good as anything on the PS3.

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[QUOTE="Clank-PS-Snake"]

Come on guys, 360 was released a whole year before PS3 and yet MS expect us to believe that their devs are eventually going to surpass KZ2, why is it that Sony's 1st party were are able to constantly release games better looking than any multi-plats and yet MS release games like Crackdown 2, Fable III and Alan Wake which look extremely average but solid none the less. Surely if Killzone 2 was released in Feb 2009 then by now MS should have at least announced a game on par, especially considering that everyone's been working on the 360 for a year longer. Let's just admit PS3 is more powerful than 360.

1kryptic

As far as Im concerned Crysis 2 and RAGE BOTH looked better than Killzone 2.It seems like MS has finally waken up and wants to take care of graphics,you could sense that by their presentations on E3 conference.

And just for the fact.Crackdown 2 is made of OLD,RENDERWARE engine.Thats engine that powered games like Vice city and GTA 3.Fable 3 uses modified Black and White engine and AW was just mess of development.Firstly made for PC and than port to 360 as open world game.Then when they made world make it 360 exclusive and linear...35 people on team...you get the point.No point in damage control,they are very close in terms of performance since E3 showed the truth...

Gears of War 3 is looking just as good as anything on the PS3.

True that.There are little differences between lighting,animations,design and art style and that depends on engine and team but differences are really minimal.Nothing to suggest one console cant handle what other does...

gears 3 holmes

you can argue all you want but it looks damn good and very close to the best PS3 exclusive you can thow at it

plus really this is just a bunch of graphic whore nonsense 360/PS3 both get beutiful lookin games this gen

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Come on guys, 360 was released a whole year before PS3 and yet MS expect us to believe that their devs are eventually going to surpass KZ2, why is it that Sony's 1st party were are able to constantly release games better looking than any multi-plats and yet MS release games like Crackdown 2, Fable III and Alan Wake which look extremely average but solid none the less. Surely if Killzone 2 was released in Feb 2009 then by now MS should have at least announced a game on par, especially considering that everyone's been working on the 360 for a year longer. Let's just admit PS3 is more powerful than 360.

donalbane

[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="Clank-PS-Snake"]

Come on guys, 360 was released a whole year before PS3 and yet MS expect us to believe that their devs are eventually going to surpass KZ2, why is it that Sony's 1st party were are able to constantly release games better looking than any multi-plats and yet MS release games like Crackdown 2, Fable III and Alan Wake which look extremely average but solid none the less. Surely if Killzone 2 was released in Feb 2009 then by now MS should have at least announced a game on par, especially considering that everyone's been working on the 360 for a year longer. Let's just admit PS3 is more powerful than 360.

TheShadowLord07

I think he meant Blu-Ray.

Sony had alot to prove after all those claims about PS3 being more powerfull. MS on the other hand had nothing to prove and foccused more on coop and mp experiences.

Anyway at this point, looking at games like rage, crysis2 and gears3 it pretty much a fact that Sony and PS3 fanboys were wrong about 360 capabilities and it´s a good surprise to see 360 performing so good since it was almost never hyped for it´s graphics.

Also Alan wake is easly in the top 5 best looking console games this gen. You should play it

You act like the PS3 exclusives look SOOO much better than the 360 games.Alan Wake is right up there with the PS3 exclusives in terms of graphics.And Gears 3 looks just as good as Uncharted2 in my opinon.And all the multiplats look better on 360.So open your eyes

It took us three years to see how powerful the PS3 was.

Just wait, dood.

Come on guys, 360 was released a whole year before PS3 and yet MS expect us to believe that their devs are eventually going to surpass KZ2, why is it that Sony's 1st party were are able to constantly release games better looking than any multi-plats and yet MS release games like Crackdown 2, Fable III and Alan Wake which look extremely average but solid none the less. Surely if Killzone 2 was released in Feb 2009 then by now MS should have at least announced a game on par, especially considering that everyone's been working on the 360 for a year longer. Let's just admit PS3 is more powerful than 360.

[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="Clank-PS-Snake"]

Come on guys, 360 was released a whole year before PS3 and yet MS expect us to believe that their devs are eventually going to surpass KZ2, why is it that Sony's 1st party were are able to constantly release games better looking than any multi-plats and yet MS release games like Crackdown 2, Fable III and Alan Wake which look extremely average but solid none the less. Surely if Killzone 2 was released in Feb 2009 then by now MS should have at least announced a game on par, especially considering that everyone's been working on the 360 for a year longer. Let's just admit PS3 is more powerful than 360.

KevinButlerVP

And thats exactly why cows dont have to worry.At the end of the day,in the end of this gen,Sony has FAAAR more first party developers with much more knowledge and even if systems are par it will result nothing other than better looking ps3 games.This is Epics last Gears on their old engine but it still looks sick,Crytek is on roll and ID might have something but when they are done what other does MS have?Crytek and ID cant make them games every year while Sony has lots of devs capable of doing so...

[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="Clank-PS-Snake"]

Come on guys, 360 was released a whole year before PS3 and yet MS expect us to believe that their devs are eventually going to surpass KZ2, why is it that Sony's 1st party were are able to constantly release games better looking than any multi-plats and yet MS release games like Crackdown 2, Fable III and Alan Wake which look extremely average but solid none the less. Surely if Killzone 2 was released in Feb 2009 then by now MS should have at least announced a game on par, especially considering that everyone's been working on the 360 for a year longer. Let's just admit PS3 is more powerful than 360.

KevinButlerVP

It has? because i only see U2 and KZ2 looking a bit better than Gears2 and alan wake. also, why would we only look at exclusives when multiplats like RDR already proved you wrong? :P

[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="Clank-PS-Snake"]

Come on guys, 360 was released a whole year before PS3 and yet MS expect us to believe that their devs are eventually going to surpass KZ2, why is it that Sony's 1st party were are able to constantly release games better looking than any multi-plats and yet MS release games like Crackdown 2, Fable III and Alan Wake which look extremely average but solid none the less. Surely if Killzone 2 was released in Feb 2009 then by now MS should have at least announced a game on par, especially considering that everyone's been working on the 360 for a year longer. Let's just admit PS3 is more powerful than 360.

KevinButlerVP

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="donalbane"] Both consoles have different strengths. The 360 has more ram. The Ps3 has more storage. Different developers will utilize these features in different ways. PAL360

It has? because i only see U2 and KZ2 looking a bit better than Gears2 and alan wake. also, why would we only look at exclusives when multiplats like RDR already proved you wrong? :P

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="donalbane"] Both consoles have different strengths. The 360 has more ram. The Ps3 has more storage. Different developers will utilize these features in different ways. JordanizPro

[QUOTE="JordanizPro"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] In the end the only thing that matter is what kind of games the hardware can make, not the words. PS3 has proven to have much better looking games than the 360LP4EVA2005

RAGE and Crysis 2...

[QUOTE="JordanizPro"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] In the end the only thing that matter is what kind of games the hardware can make, not the words. PS3 has proven to have much better looking games than the 360LP4EVA2005

Right...

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[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] In the end the only thing that matter is what kind of games the hardware can make, not the words. PS3 has proven to have much better looking games than the 360LP4EVA2005

[QUOTE="LP4EVA2005"][QUOTE="JordanizPro"] Much better looking?Dont make me laugh.Name 1 game that looks MUCH better than Gears 3

JordanizPro

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[QUOTE="Clank-PS-Snake"]

Come on guys, 360 was released a whole year before PS3 and yet MS expect us to believe that their devs are eventually going to surpass KZ2, why is it that Sony's 1st party were are able to constantly release games better looking than any multi-plats and yet MS release games like Crackdown 2, Fable III and Alan Wake which look extremely average but solid none the less. Surely if Killzone 2 was released in Feb 2009 then by now MS should have at least announced a game on par, especially considering that everyone's been working on the 360 for a year longer. Let's just admit PS3 is more powerful than 360.

As far as Im concerned Crysis 2 and RAGE BOTH looked better than Killzone 2.It seems like MS has finally waken up and wants to take care of graphics,you could sense that by their presentations on E3 conference.

And just for the fact.Crackdown 2 is made of OLD,RENDERWARE engine.Thats engine that powered games like Vice city and GTA 3.Fable 3 uses modified Black and White engine and AW was just mess of development.Firstly made for PC and than port to 360 as open world game.Then when they made world make it 360 exclusive and linear...35 people on team...you get the point.No point in damage control,they are very close in terms of performance since E3 showed the truth...

Gears of War 3 is looking just as good as anything on the PS3.

[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="Clank-PS-Snake"] what do you mean by storage?

TheShadowLord07

[QUOTE="donalbane"] Both consoles have different strengths. The 360 has more ram. The Ps3 has more storage. Different developers will utilize these features in different ways. Poster_11

Killzone 3...goodbyeLP4EVA2005

I think it's the other way around. If the PS3 were more powerful we'd have more than a couple of games that look better.IronBass

Agreed.

All I hear is talk from random forumites, never any proof. Where's the beef?

The thing I would worry about if i was i cow would be if RAGE and Crysis 2 will looke inferior on ps3?That would be HILARIOUS :lol:

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"][QUOTE="JordanizPro"] Kilzone 3 looks just like Killzone 2 and its not far apart from Gears 3 in terms of graphics.Try again

JordanizPro

yeah, right

I think it's the other way around. If the PS3 were more powerful we'd have more than a couple of games that look better.IronBass

[QUOTE="JordanizPro"][QUOTE="TintedEyes"] no it looks better than killzone 2 TintedEyes

yeah, right

Ok it looks great but what exactly is unhandable here on 360?Snow?Gun?waves? :lol:

What really KZ3 has going for it are unsurpassed animations that feel very lively.Other than that in poly count,texture quality its nothing out of ordinary.

[QUOTE="JordanizPro"][QUOTE="TintedEyes"] no it looks better than killzone 2 TintedEyes

yeah, right

[QUOTE="IronBass"]I think it's the other way around. If the PS3 were more powerful we'd have more than a couple of games that look better.GreyFoXX4

Yes but games like MGS4,HR,Lair...all look worse than RAGE,Crysis 2,Gears 3 and even RDR.The thing that really tickles is the fact that sony said ps3 is 3x more powerful and that 360 is actually xbox 1.5.If it was not for that ok but here we have delicate situation where developers need huge budget,amazingly talented devs,new engines and time to surpass what MS had on 360 on old multiplat engine so much multiplats that look and perform better on 360.That kinda does not reflect 3 times more powerful console...

Can't we all agree that PC is better than both?Blacklight2

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[QUOTE="JordanizPro"] Yea right.....JordanizPro

yeah, right

Can't we all agree that PC is better than both?Blacklight2

Maybe. Depends on if Crysis pics are posted or not.

Hmm, Uncharted, GTp, MGS4, KZ2, Uncharted 2, God of War III, soon to have GT5. And lets not forget Heavy Rain, WipeOut HD, Heck even Lair looks great for its time and still holds up well.GreyFoXX4

From the ones you listed, only four actually look better than anything on the 360 (KZ2, GoWIII, HR and UC2).

As mister Floppy Jim so wisely said, if the PS3 were really more powerful, we'd have more than 4 games in 4 years to show it.

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[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

As far as Im concerned Crysis 2 and RAGE BOTH looked better than Killzone 2.It seems like MS has finally waken up and wants to take care of graphics,you could sense that by their presentations on E3 conference.

And just for the fact.Crackdown 2 is made of OLD,RENDERWARE engine.Thats engine that powered games like Vice city and GTA 3.Fable 3 uses modified Black and White engine and AW was just mess of development.Firstly made for PC and than port to 360 as open world game.Then when they made world make it 360 exclusive and linear...35 people on team...you get the point.No point in damage control,they are very close in terms of performance since E3 showed the truth...

GreyFoXX4

Gears of War 3 is looking just as good as anything on the PS3.

Unreal engine 3.? has actually been proving it´s incredibly versatile on 360.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d68KiRM4qUA

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[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]

yeah, right

power comparasons between a 4 and a 5 year old console, what could be more interesting or suspenseful?

are people really serious about stuff like this? every other gen we were looking forwards by this stage not backwards.

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"][QUOTE="IronBass"]I think it's the other way around. If the PS3 were more powerful we'd have more than a couple of games that look better.Bus-A-Bus

Yes but games like MGS4,HR,Lair...all look worse than RAGE,Crysis 2,Gears 3 and even RDR.The thing that really tickles is the fact that sony said ps3 is 3x more powerful and that 360 is actually xbox 1.5.If it was not for that ok but here we have delicate situation where developers need huge budget,amazingly talented devs,new engines and time to surpass what MS had on 360 on old multiplat engine so much multiplats that look and perform better on 360.That kinda does not reflect 3 times more powerful console...

Gears 3 looks about on par with the best PS3 efforts frankly.