If 3DS is capable of graphics as good as Peace Walker I'll be impressed.

http://uk.psp.ign.com/dor/objects/965242/metal-gear-solid-portable-ops-2/videos/mgspw_vdr_060710.html

That's the base level of graphics tech I would expect from the "next-gen" 3DS to be honest so if it manages those visuals in proper 3D I will be a satisfied customer.

I know the 3DS MGS demo looked around as good as Peace Walker but until I see a full game running those visuals, rather than a specially prepared and not fully playbable demo, I'll remain a little sceptical for now.

Don't let me down Nintendo...

MGS 3D demoed at E3 is a full game comeing to 3DS :) it's remake of MGS3

http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/e3_2010/mgs3d/en/

MGS 3D demoed at E3 is a full game comeing to 3DS :) it's remake of MGS3

http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/e3_2010/mgs3d/en/

ShadowriverUB

MGS 3D demoed at E3 is a full game comeing to 3DS :) it's remake of MGS3

http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/e3_2010/mgs3d/en/

ShadowriverUB

im really confused tc, you said in the title that youll be impressed, but then you said in your first post that you wouldnt expect anything less.

anyway it probably looks as good or better than psp,3ds will probably be a lot more expensive than the psp.

To be honest I'd actually rather they ported Peace Walker across to 3DS than Metal Gear Solid 3D because from everything I have read and seen Peace Walker is a better all-round game.

Maybe if they add in some of the new design elements found in Peace Walker it will be fine.

Heres MGS Snake Eater 3DS INGAME real gameplay.

Resident Evil on DS

im really confused tc, you said in the title that youll be impressed, but then you said in your first post that you wouldnt expect anything less.

anyway it probably looks as good or better than psp,3ds will probably be a lot more expensive than the psp.

gangster480

MGS 3D demoed at E3 is a full game comeing to 3DS :) it's remake of MGS3

http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/e3_2010/mgs3d/en/

ShadowriverUB

Resident Evil on DS

DriftRS

Yeah, I don't think anyone believes those are realtime graphics. I certainly don't at this stage. If the 3DS was however capable of those graphics in realtime in a full RE game then I would indeed be impressed.

Yeah, I don't think anyone believes those are realtime graphics. I certainly don't at this stage. If the 3DS was however capable of those graphics in realtime in a full RE game then I would indeed be impressed.

amaneuvering

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es0xReoS2nA

Here's a trailer of of the game, as confirmed in the description, running in realtime.

Get over it amaneuvering. The 3DS mops the floor with the PSP. Half of the announced games for the 3DS already look better than anything the PSP has ever released. The fact is the 3DS is a lot more powerful than the PSP. Comparing the the 3DS to the PSP is like comparing PS3 games with PS1 games. And all the reports from many gaming websites have stated that the 3DS is capable of beautiful graphics, most say the 3DS is in the range of GC/Wii.

And by the way, those Resident Evil screens and videos are confirmed to be real-time.

I agree with the TC.

So far it's looking really promising but until I get my hands on these games in real life or at least can see some real confirmed gameplay I won't be hyping anything.

The MGS3 trailer (all you moved was the camera) or Resident Evil trailer wasn't playable at E3 so we'll hopefully see some more at TGS.

its going to look better from wat I seen

[QUOTE="DriftRS"]

Resident Evil on DS

amaneuvering

Yeah, I don't think anyone believes those are realtime graphics. I certainly don't at this stage. If the 3DS was however capable of those graphics in realtime in a full RE game then I would indeed be impressed.

You'll be happy to know, it was confirmed by a press release to be ingame, and the press at E3 were able to run through it while manipulating the camera :)

EDIT: also keep in mind, the 3DS has to render 2 copies of the image to output in 3D, so it's actually more powerful then those screens might lead you to believe, as it's rendering 2 copies of that at the same time.

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

Yeah, I don't think anyone believes those are realtime graphics. I certainly don't at this stage. If the 3DS was however capable of those graphics in realtime in a full RE game then I would indeed be impressed.

Buckledant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es0xReoS2nA

Here's a trailer of of the game, as confirmed in the description, running in realtime.

That's just a trailer though, it's not gameplay.

[QUOTE="DriftRS"]

Resident Evil on DS

amaneuvering

Yeah, I don't think anyone believes those are realtime graphics. I certainly don't at this stage. If the 3DS was however capable of those graphics in realtime in a full RE game then I would indeed be impressed.

[QUOTE="DriftRS"]

Resident Evil on DS

amaneuvering

Yeah, I don't think anyone believes those are realtime graphics. I certainly don't at this stage. If the 3DS was however capable of those graphics in realtime in a full RE game then I would indeed be impressed.

[QUOTE="Buckledant"]

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

Yeah, I don't think anyone believes those are realtime graphics. I certainly don't at this stage. If the 3DS was however capable of those graphics in realtime in a full RE game then I would indeed be impressed.

JLF1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es0xReoS2nA

Here's a trailer of of the game, as confirmed in the description, running in realtime.

That's just a trailer though, it's not gameplay.

[QUOTE="Buckledant"]

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

Yeah, I don't think anyone believes those are realtime graphics. I certainly don't at this stage. If the 3DS was however capable of those graphics in realtime in a full RE game then I would indeed be impressed.

JLF1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es0xReoS2nA

Here's a trailer of of the game, as confirmed in the description, running in realtime.

That's just a trailer though, it's not gameplay.

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

Yeah, I don't think anyone believes those are realtime graphics. I certainly don't at this stage. If the 3DS was however capable of those graphics in realtime in a full RE game then I would indeed be impressed.

Buckledant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es0xReoS2nA

Here's a trailer of of the game, as confirmed in the description, running in realtime.

Yeah, I'm still not convinced it's realtime regardless of what it says.

That's a pre-rendered CG trailer if every I saw one.

If an RE game comes out on 3DS and looks like that however then I will be happy to say I was wrong.

The 3DS is capable of better graphics TC we saw that from the tech demo's people have linked for you already, if you are true to your original statement you should already be impressed.

Once graphical dominance is excepted Im expected an influx of PS fanboys that get severe migraines from using their 3DS's for any longer than 2 minutes, system wars is always good for a chuckle.

[QUOTE="Buckledant"]

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

Yeah, I don't think anyone believes those are realtime graphics. I certainly don't at this stage. If the 3DS was however capable of those graphics in realtime in a full RE game then I would indeed be impressed.

amaneuvering

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es0xReoS2nA

Here's a trailer of of the game, as confirmed in the description, running in realtime.

The 3DS is capable of better graphics TC we saw that from the tech demo's people have linked for you already, if you are true to your original statement you should already be impressed.

Once graphical dominance is excepted Im expected an influx of PS fanboys that get severe migraines from using their 3DS's for any longer than 2 minutes, system wars is always good for a chuckle.

SapSacPrime

So far the game that has been most representative of what the 3DS is capable of is Kid Icarus, since that was clearly real footage of an actual game running on 3DS than was created for the 3DS from scracth, and imo that doesn't look beyond what the PSP can do.

Once I see the other games as anything more than simple limited and half non-interactive demos I'll form an opinion on them.

If you remember the dinosaur demo on PS back in the day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfOYoY41YCQ

Now, how many games on PS actually had graphics that looked as good as that demo which was designed to convince us of the PS's graphical capabilities...

Yeah, it's a trailer, cause it was uploaded to youtube and they can't give you a DS to see it onscreen yourself... But it was available on the DS during E3DriftRS

Yeah, I'm still not convinced it's realtime regardless of what it says.

That's a pre-rendered CG trailer if every I saw one.

If an RE game comes out on 3DS and looks like that however then I will be happy to say I was wrong.

amaneuvering

Are you telling me that this is CG?

One would think that an early demo running on the hardware would be proof enough.....obviously not. :|Nedemis

So far the game that has been most representative of what the 3DS is capable of is Kid Icarus, since that was clearly real footage of an actual game running on 3DS than was created for the 3DS from scracth, and imo that doesn't look beyond what the PSP can do.

Once I see the other games as anything more than simple limited and half non-interactive demos I'll form an opinion on them.

If you remember the dinosaur demo on PS back in the day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfOYoY41YCQ

Now, how many games on PS actually had graphics that looked as good as that demo which was designed to convince us of the PS's graphical capabilities...

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

Yeah, I'm still not convinced it's realtime regardless of what it says.

That's a pre-rendered CG trailer if every I saw one.

If an RE game comes out on 3DS and looks like that however then I will be happy to say I was wrong.

Buckledant

Are you telling me that this is CG?

Yup.

I think this is CG made to represent what Capcom thinks they will be able to achieve on 3DS, rather than actual 3D graphics running on the 3DS in realtime and recorded for our benefit.

I may be wrong but I'll stick with what I believe until I see more convincing evidence to the contrary.

One would think that an early demo running on the hardware would be proof enough.....obviously not. :|Nedemis

[QUOTE="Nedemis"]One would think that an early demo running on the hardware would be proof enough.....obviously not. :|JLF1

That's where I'm coming from too.

I mean from this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgjdFlUtgHI&feature=related to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL1cwhNDWkw is all I'm saying.

Although it did eventually get to stuff like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuTmDljP_QY&feature=related

Still not quite the t-rex demo though.

Yup.

I think this is CG made to represent what Capcom thinks they will be able to achieve on 3DS, rather than actual 3D graphics running on the 3DS in realtime and recorded for our benefit.

I may be wrong but I'll stick with what I believe until I see more convincing evidence to the contrary.

amaneuvering

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/nintendo-3ds-in-depth-preview-it-works/

Resident Evil Revelationshad some of the best graphics we've ever seen on a mobile device, though they were only for close-cropped cutscenes of characters -- we doubt they can keep up this sort of fidelity throughout, and the title wasn't playable. Still, a modicum of camera control let us know what we were viewing was live-rendered, and it was impressive indeed.

Engadget

Is Engadget wrong aswell?

[QUOTE="Buckledant"]

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

Yeah, I'm still not convinced it's realtime regardless of what it says.

That's a pre-rendered CG trailer if every I saw one.

If an RE game comes out on 3DS and looks like that however then I will be happy to say I was wrong.

amaneuvering

Are you telling me that this is CG?

Yup.

I think this is CG made to represent what Capcom thinks they will be able to achieve on 3DS, rather than actual 3D graphics running on the 3DS in realtime and recorded for our benefit.

I may be wrong but I'll stick with what I believe until I see more convincing evidence to the contrary.

But that makes no sense... The camera could be rotated by the players during the demo, I don't think any company has created a "3d record feature" yet... And... it was definetly 3D graphics running on the 3DS in realtime, as it was 3D, and the camera was able to rotate around it.

The 3D dino demo linked here has no background at all, hence why games didn't end up looking like that, but this here is rendering a fully realised scene. Lets also keep in mind, any AI or physics processing is NOT done on the GPU. All of that will be pushed off onto the CPU when gameplay is implimented, and shouldn't effect the graphics too much. It'll probably be similar to how RE5 looked ingame vs cutscenes.

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

[QUOTE="Buckledant"]

Are you telling me that this is CG?

DriftRS

Yup.

I think this is CG made to represent what Capcom thinks they will be able to achieve on 3DS, rather than actual 3D graphics running on the 3DS in realtime and recorded for our benefit.

I may be wrong but I'll stick with what I believe until I see more convincing evidence to the contrary.

But that makes no sense... The camera could be rotated by the players during the demo, I don't think any company has created a "3d record feature" yet... And... it was definetly 3D graphics running on the 3DS in realtime, as it was 3D, and the camera was able to rotate around it.

The 3D dino demo linked here has no background at all, hence why games didn't end up looking like that, but this here is rendering a fully realised scene. Lets also keep in mind, any AI or physics processing is NOT done on the GPU. All of that will be pushed off onto the CPU when gameplay is implimented, and shouldn't effect the graphics too much. It'll probably be similar to how RE5 looked ingame vs cutscenes.

I is not convinced.

[QUOTE="DriftRS"]

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

Yup.

I think this is CG made to represent what Capcom thinks they will be able to achieve on 3DS, rather than actual 3D graphics running on the 3DS in realtime and recorded for our benefit.

I may be wrong but I'll stick with what I believe until I see more convincing evidence to the contrary.

But that makes no sense... The camera could be rotated by the players during the demo, I don't think any company has created a "3d record feature" yet... And... it was definetly 3D graphics running on the 3DS in realtime, as it was 3D, and the camera was able to rotate around it.

The 3D dino demo linked here has no background at all, hence why games didn't end up looking like that, but this here is rendering a fully realised scene. Lets also keep in mind, any AI or physics processing is NOT done on the GPU. All of that will be pushed off onto the CPU when gameplay is implimented, and shouldn't effect the graphics too much. It'll probably be similar to how RE5 looked ingame vs cutscenes.

I is not convinced.

[QUOTE="amaneuvering"]

Yup.

I think this is CG made to represent what Capcom thinks they will be able to achieve on 3DS, rather than actual 3D graphics running on the 3DS in realtime and recorded for our benefit.

I may be wrong but I'll stick with what I believe until I see more convincing evidence to the contrary.

Buckledant

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/nintendo-3ds-in-depth-preview-it-works/

Resident Evil Revelationshad some of the best graphics we've ever seen on a mobile device, though they were only for close-cropped cutscenes of characters -- we doubt they can keep up this sort of fidelity throughout, and the title wasn't playable. Still, a modicum of camera control let us know what we were viewing was live-rendered, and it was impressive indeed.

Engadget

Is Engadget wrong aswell?

I think they might be based on other comments I have read from other sites that had hands on.

"Oh, and Resident Evil Revelations? It was just video that you could zoom in and out and turn the camera that simply slid the video around. It wasn't being generated on the 3DS in realtime, guaranteed." - http://uk.ds.ign.com/articles/109/1099595p1.html

The RE trailer showed graphics better than PW.

[QUOTE="DriftRS"]

But that makes no sense... The camera could be rotated by the players during the demo, I don't think any company has created a "3d record feature" yet... And... it was definetly 3D graphics running on the 3DS in realtime, as it was 3D, and the camera was able to rotate around it.

The 3D dino demo linked here has no background at all, hence why games didn't end up looking like that, but this here is rendering a fully realised scene. Lets also keep in mind, any AI or physics processing is NOT done on the GPU. All of that will be pushed off onto the CPU when gameplay is implimented, and shouldn't effect the graphics too much. It'll probably be similar to how RE5 looked ingame vs cutscenes.

I is not convinced.

[QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"]

MGS 3D demoed at E3 is a full game comeing to 3DS :) it's remake of MGS3

http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/e3_2010/mgs3d/en/

Dahaka-UK

One would think that an early demo running on the hardware would be proof enough.....obviously not. :|Nedemis

[QUOTE="Nedemis"]One would think that an early demo running on the hardware would be proof enough.....obviously not. :|Bread_or_Decide

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="Nedemis"]One would think that an early demo running on the hardware would be proof enough.....obviously not. :|reyad-u