If all ps4 games are 720p/60fps are you still getting one?

This has a VERY low chance of happening but lets say it does, are you still buying one? Personally, its a no go. 720p as a standard in 2013 would be a fkin joke and i certainly do NOT want to spend another 5+ years playing blurry ass games.

i don't care about graphics, so it doesn't phase me, the PS4 is looking like the console with the most jrpg's so that will be my main reason for getting it

This has a VERY low chance of happening but lets say it does, are you still buying one? Personally, its a no go. 720p as a standard in 2013 would be a fkin joke and i certainly do NOT want to spend another 5+ years playing blurry ass games.

silversix_

I plan one no matter what!

Won't matter as much as how good are the games available for the system actually play - just sayin. :P

Yes, 720p/60fps is acceptable, and i believe we will see some 1080p/60fps on consoles, though. I won't stand subHD/sub30fps anymore.

Yes im not a graphics whore neckbeard like most of the hermits here. 720p/60fps will do just fine.DepthsOfDreams

Probably, I need a blu ray player

[QUOTE="DepthsOfDreams"]Yes im not a graphics whore neckbeard like most of the hermits here. 720p/60fps will do just fine.silversix_

Some ps4 games may run at 720P.

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[QUOTE="DepthsOfDreams"]Yes im not a graphics whore neckbeard like most of the hermits here. 720p/60fps will do just fine.lowe0

Most games will be 1080p on PS4 but... yeh i'll still buy it. I got no problem playing at 720p, specially if the framerate and gfx are good.

Most games will be 1080p on PS4 but... yeh i'll still buy it. I got no problem playing at 720p, specially if the framerate and gfx are good.

KillzoneSnake

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[QUOTE="DepthsOfDreams"]Yes im not a graphics whore neckbeard like most of the hermits here. 720p/60fps will do just fine.lowe0

You're asking as if that's a bad thing......720p60fps is absolutely fine. How much of a jump is 1080p compared to 720p? and is it even worth the performance hit?

I expect quad 1080P @ 240 fps or bust. :P

You're asking as if that's a bad thing......720p60fps is absolutely fine. How much of a jump is 1080p compared to 720p? and is it even worth the performance hit?

Harisemo

No

If that included extremely high amounts and quality of AA and AF, yeah.  Wii U games are going to be 720p afterall.

But it won't happen, there's just too much bandwidth for 720p on PS4.  1080p60fps games will still be more detailed than anything on Current generation consoles.

PS4 is way more powerful than that. Even the 720 is. 1080p/30fps will be the standard because 60fps is largely useless on big tv using a controller, and the average gamer would rather have the eye-candy than the framerate.

Sports, racing, and fighting titles are sure to go for 1080p/60fps. Can't wait to see next-gen Forza and Fight Night. Gonna blow the door off the hinges.

If that included extremely high amounts and quality of AA and AF, yeah.  Wii U games are going to be 720p afterall.

But it won't happen, there's just too much bandwidth for 720p on PS4.  1080p60fps games will still be more detailed than anything on Current generation consoles.

Chozofication

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="silversix_"]You don't have to be a graphics whore to be bothered by 720p. Like are you saying you'd buy ps4 for 450-500$ if it was running in 480p/120fps? Resolution is more important than textures and all the other 'graphics whore' features.

silversix_

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="silversix_"]You don't have to be a graphics whore to be bothered by 720p. Like are you saying you'd buy ps4 for 450-500$ if it was running in 480p/120fps? Resolution is more important than textures and all the other 'graphics whore' features.

silversix_

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[QUOTE="lowe0"] Now you're getting into a question of diminishing returns. Does 120fps add more to the experience than going from 480p to 720p? What about 1080p vs. going from 30fps to 60fps? Considering that 60fps feels very smooth and that resolving more than 720p would require sitting uncomfortably close to even my 55" TV, 720p60 strikes an excellent balance.lowe0

What if you sit closer to your monitor/tv

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[QUOTE="lowe0"] Now you're getting into a question of diminishing returns. Does 120fps add more to the experience than going from 480p to 720p? What about 1080p vs. going from 30fps to 60fps? Considering that 60fps feels very smooth and that resolving more than 720p would require sitting uncomfortably close to even my 55" TV, 720p60 strikes an excellent balance.kidcool189

I'll be buying it for the games, not the hardware.

I for one don't think developers will be limited to 720p/60fps with the PS4. There's still 1080p/30fps (a consistent 30fps which I'm fine with) that shouldn't be a problem to the PS4. Plus, I think developers will be able to make use of 1600x900 and other oddball resolutions under 1080p. To be honet, I think there will be some shallow games that will be able to handle 1080/60fps just fine.

I mean my PC has inferior hardware. Yet, there are some games that run on it at or close to 1080p/60fps. The PS4 should do better. 

720p and 60 fps. Thank you sony.

I care about games...not resolution. I mean, really? This is just getting sad. Sometimes I miss the 8bit days.

I for one don't think developers will be limited to 720p/60fps with the PS4. There's still 1080p/30fps (a consistent 30fps which I'm fine with) that shouldn't be a problem to the PS4. Plus, I think developers will be able to make use of 1600x900 and other oddball resolutions under 1080p. To be honet, I think there will be some shallow games that will be able to handle 1080/60fps just fine.

I mean my PC has inferior hardware. Yet, there are some games that run on it at or close to 1080p/60fps. The PS4 should do better. 

jun_aka_pekto

Yes im not a graphics whore neckbeard like most of the hermits here. 720p/60fps will do just fine.DepthsOfDreams

PC had more games than ps1,ps2,ps3 for each of those gens.

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[QUOTE="silversix_"]60fps feels smooth n all but you can live with solid 30fps for one reason, slow ass sensitivity as a standard on a controller. With a kb/mouse the minimum 'i prefer' is like 43-45fps but with a controller im rarely bothered by 30. and yes, 120fps adds a noticeable amount of frames (those saying a human eye can't detect over 60fps never played a game in 120fps) but certainly not as much as going from 30 to 60. My point to the post i made was are you seriously considering spending 500$ just for 60fps? Even if textures are much improved over current gen, if its 720p it'll be blurry as hell and those good looking textures will be noticeable worst than on 1080p even though they're of the same quality.

silversix_

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I for one don't think developers will be limited to 720p/60fps with the PS4. There's still 1080p/30fps (a consistent 30fps which I'm fine with) that shouldn't be a problem to the PS4. Plus, I think developers will be able to make use of 1600x900 and other oddball resolutions under 1080p. To be honet, I think there will be some shallow games that will be able to handle 1080/60fps just fine.

I mean my PC has inferior hardware. Yet, there are some games that run on it at or close to 1080p/60fps. The PS4 should do better. 

PurpleMan5000

I have no idea of what limits the developers for the PS4 will be able to achieve. But, if the next-gen games are as clean and clear as my PC games are now, I'm happy. That's all I ask.

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I mean I'm replaying KZ2 which is highly regarded graphicswise for consoles. I'm wondering what the hell they're talking about. The graphics suck, pure and simple.  

That's why ammo boxes and guns color-cycle. They're often hard to make out because of the lower res and poor colors in the game.

[QUOTE="DepthsOfDreams"]Yes im not a graphics whore neckbeard like most of the hermits here. 720p/60fps will do just fine.Jankarcop

PC had more games than ps1,ps2,ps3 for each of those gens.

And unlike the PS3, the games shared between the platforms was pretty small. PC and console were entirely different markets then.

After seeing the difference between BioShock Infinite on Consoles and PCs, I would prefer the new consoles be a higher resolution.

[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"][QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

I for one don't think developers will be limited to 720p/60fps with the PS4. There's still 1080p/30fps (a consistent 30fps which I'm fine with) that shouldn't be a problem to the PS4. Plus, I think developers will be able to make use of 1600x900 and other oddball resolutions under 1080p. To be honet, I think there will be some shallow games that will be able to handle 1080/60fps just fine.

I mean my PC has inferior hardware. Yet, there are some games that run on it at or close to 1080p/60fps. The PS4 should do better. 

jun_aka_pekto

I have no idea of what limits the developers for the PS4 will be able to achieve. But, if the next-gen games are as clean and clear as my PC games are now, I'm happy. That's all I ask.

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

[QUOTE="silversix_"]60fps feels smooth n all but you can live with solid 30fps for one reason, slow ass sensitivity as a standard on a controller. With a kb/mouse the minimum 'i prefer' is like 43-45fps but with a controller im rarely bothered by 30. and yes, 120fps adds a noticeable amount of frames (those saying a human eye can't detect over 60fps never played a game in 120fps) but certainly not as much as going from 30 to 60. My point to the post i made was are you seriously considering spending 500$ just for 60fps? Even if textures are much improved over current gen, if its 720p it'll be blurry as hell and those good looking textures will be noticeable worst than on 1080p even though they're of the same quality.

lostrib

What if you sit closer to your monitor/tv

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[QUOTE="kidcool189"] But all those frames above 60 are a waste and are not truely noticable on a 60hz display, the standard for consoles.

kidcool189

After seeing the difference between BioShock Infinite on Consoles and PCs, I would prefer the new consoles be a higher resolution.

Minishdriveby