If COD takes no skill......

There is some skill involved and there are some seriously hardcore COD players out there. But I wouldn't say it's the hardest game to play (if that's what your looking for anyway)

Although I will say that the level up system is exreamely easy and is utterly pointless, you get XP and level ups for doing literally EVERYTHING!

Hell there is even an award called the lemming award you can get if you jump off a buliding after someone else, and it actually GIVES you XP!

Where the hell is the skill in that?

-one dimensional gameplay.

-instant gratification

-rewards for extended play.

There is some skill involved and there are some seriously hardcore COD players out there. But I wouldn't say it's the hardest game to play (if that's what your looking for anyway)

Although I will say that the level up system is exreamely easy and is utterly pointless, you get XP and level ups for doing literally EVERYTHING!

Hell there is even an award called the lemming award you can get if you jump off a buliding after someone else, and it actually GIVES you XP!

Where the hell is the skill in that?

ShadowMoses900

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

There is some skill involved and there are some seriously hardcore COD players out there. But I wouldn't say it's the hardest game to play (if that's what your looking for anyway)

Although I will say that the level up system is exreamely easy and is utterly pointless, you get XP and level ups for doing literally EVERYTHING!

Hell there is even an award called the lemming award you can get if you jump off a buliding after someone else, and it actually GIVES you XP!

Where the hell is the skill in that?

Androvinus

Na, they're there to keep people playing.

[QUOTE="Androvinus"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

There is some skill involved and there are some seriously hardcore COD players out there. But I wouldn't say it's the hardest game to play (if that's what your looking for anyway)

Although I will say that the level up system is exreamely easy and is utterly pointless, you get XP and level ups for doing literally EVERYTHING!

Hell there is even an award called the lemming award you can get if you jump off a buliding after someone else, and it actually GIVES you XP!

Where the hell is the skill in that?

Heirren

Na, they're there to keep people playing.

There are so many flaws in the whole "skill" debate between FPS games.

People claim that kb/m takes more skill than controllers, but that's all rubbish because depending on whether you're playing the PC or console version, everyone is using the same controller, so it is an even playing field.

It doesn't matter what game you're playing, whether it be Counter Strike, Halo, Killzone or whatever. Everyone is playing the same game, and everyone has the same advantages and disadvantages as each other. People who complain about CoD killstreaks, why aren't they using the kill streaks themselves? They suck? Every game has an even playing field, so every game requires the same amount of skill to be good. If anything, console games are the most level playing field because on PC, some people have better mouses than others, and better, faster computers. On consoles, everyone has the same controller and the same system, making it an even more level playing field.

I've played all of the FPS games. Tons of counter-strike, tons of Quake, tons of Unreal Tournament, tons of Call of Duty, Killzone, Resistance, and tons of Halo. I've played tons of other FPS games. They all require the same amount of skill. The only difference is that some of the games have a higher learning curve than others. That's the only difference. Everyone is playing the same game, and it's generally a level playing field. The pros are the people that can learn the game inside and out. If Call of Duty didn't require any skill, there wouldn't be good players and there wouldn't be bad players. People just single CoD out because it is really popular. I've been pretty good at every FPS game I've ever played, it just requires learning the game.

I remember I used to be in a Clan and really into Counter Strike 1.6. Then I moved on to Source, and I remember everyone would complain about the size of the hit boxes. I never understood it, but I do understand now. I mean, everyone is playing the same game, right? Everyone should and does have the same advantage because of the hit boxes. Everyone has the same hit box targets. What's the problem? The problem is that people are elitists. People like to complain about everything. No one complains and moans more than a keyboard warrior. What is online gaming about? Competition. Who are the biggest babies in the world? Online gamers. Who are the sorest losers in the world? Online gamers. Online gamers will complain and moan about everything. Nearly all of them have an elitist attitude. When everything is actually a level playing field, if they lose, suddenly it's not a level playing field to them and it must be a problem with the game. It's hilarious.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="Androvinus"] those challenges are for fun. And there are some that are quite difficult. Like the one that requires you to fire an entire sniper rifle clip into enemies without missing in a single life. They also unlock emblems and titles that show that you have completed themAndrovinus

Na, they're there to keep people playing.

Upgrading in online multiplayer is just stupid, sorry.

It's very accesible and I bet you'll get better soon. It's not very hard to play and you don't have to have extreme skill to own up. Which is kinda a good thing, kidna not

Any competitive game takes a certain amount of skill. Even with something as incredibly shallow as say, Mortal Kombat 2. There is still a certain amount of skill to be attained.

Skill ceiling. That is the term people need to familiarize themselves with. Does it take skill to be good at CoD? Of course. Even so, the skill ceiling is very low.

sandbox3d

There are so many flaws in the whole "skill" debate between FPS games.

People claim that kb/m takes more skill than controllers, but that's all rubbish because depending on whether you're playing the PC or console version, everyone is using the same controller, so it is an even playing field.

It doesn't matter what game you're playing, whether it be Counter Strike, Halo, Killzone or whatever. Everyone is playing the same game, and everyone has the same advantages and disadvantages as each other. People who complain about CoD killstreaks, why aren't they using the kill streaks themselves? They suck? Every game has an even playing field, so every game requires the same amount of skill to be good. If anything, console games are the most level playing field because on PC, some people have better mouses than others, and better, faster computers. On consoles, everyone has the same controller and the same system, making it an even more level playing field.

I've played all of the FPS games. Tons of counter-strike, tons of Quake, tons of Unreal Tournament, tons of Call of Duty, Killzone, Resistance, and tons of Halo. I've played tons of other FPS games. They all require the same amount of skill. The only difference is that some of the games have a higher learning curve than others. That's the only difference. Everyone is playing the same game, and it's generally a level playing field. The pros are the people that can learn the game inside and out. If Call of Duty didn't require any skill, there wouldn't be good players and there wouldn't be bad players. People just single CoD out because it is really popular. I've been pretty good at every FPS game I've ever played, it just requires learning the game.

I remember I used to be in a Clan and really into Counter Strike 1.6. Then I moved on to Source, and I remember everyone would complain about the size of the hit boxes. I never understood it, but I do understand now. I mean, everyone is playing the same game, right? Everyone should and does have the same advantage because of the hit boxes. Everyone has the same hit box targets. What's the problem? The problem is that people are elitists. People like to complain about everything. No one complains and moans more than a keyboard warrior. What is online gaming about? Competition. Who are the biggest babies in the world? Online gamers. Who are the sorest losers in the world? Online gamers. Online gamers will complain and moan about everything. Nearly all of them have an elitist attitude. When everything is actually a level playing field, if they lose, suddenly it's not a level playing field to them and it must be a problem with the game. It's hilarious.

arkephonic

Gotta love some of the replies..."just push a button"..LOL!!!...Im sorry, but the s&*t gets deep in SW fast..:?

There are so many flaws in the whole "skill" debate between FPS games.

People claim that kb/m takes more skill than controllers, but that's all rubbish because depending on whether you're playing the PC or console version, everyone is using the same controller, so it is an even playing field.

It doesn't matter what game you're playing, whether it be Counter Strike, Halo, Killzone or whatever. Everyone is playing the same game, and everyone has the same advantages and disadvantages as each other. People who complain about CoD killstreaks, why aren't they using the kill streaks themselves? They suck? Every game has an even playing field, so every game requires the same amount of skill to be good. If anything, console games are the most level playing field because on PC, some people have better mouses than others, and better, faster computers. On consoles, everyone has the same controller and the same system, making it an even more level playing field.

I've played all of the FPS games. Tons of counter-strike, tons of Quake, tons of Unreal Tournament, tons of Call of Duty, Killzone, Resistance, and tons of Halo. I've played tons of other FPS games. They all require the same amount of skill. The only difference is that some of the games have a higher learning curve than others. That's the only difference. Everyone is playing the same game, and it's generally a level playing field. The pros are the people that can learn the game inside and out. If Call of Duty didn't require any skill, there wouldn't be good players and there wouldn't be bad players. People just single CoD out because it is really popular. I've been pretty good at every FPS game I've ever played, it just requires learning the game.

I remember I used to be in a Clan and really into Counter Strike 1.6. Then I moved on to Source, and I remember everyone would complain about the size of the hit boxes. I never understood it, but I do understand now. I mean, everyone is playing the same game, right? Everyone should and does have the same advantage because of the hit boxes. Everyone has the same hit box targets. What's the problem? The problem is that people are elitists. People like to complain about everything. No one complains and moans more than a keyboard warrior. What is online gaming about? Competition. Who are the biggest babies in the world? Online gamers. Who are the sorest losers in the world? Online gamers. Online gamers will complain and moan about everything. Nearly all of them have an elitist attitude. When everything is actually a level playing field, if they lose, suddenly it's not a level playing field to them and it must be a problem with the game. It's hilarious.

arkephonic

Ive said the same things for over 10 years now...its a fight you will never win.."they" just dont get it..lol..completely blind..

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Then why are there people whoconsistentlysuck at it? (me)

And why are there people who areconsistentlygood at it? (other people)

IcyFlamez96

Call of duty takes no skill to get top score, beating your opponents. Real fps games take skill to get top score, beating your opponents.

People who say it takes no skill are wrong, if they are talking about K/D ratio. but to be successfull and score points, maybe not. I am not good at the game generally, but i have a lot of fun with it. the new perk system is much more friendly for noobs like me. sometimes in Kill confirmed I come out with the best score, but my K/D ratio might end up 1/2 i dont mind its about having fun after all.

some maps & game types suit my particular playstyle better, which is racing around with the MP5 using rapid fire, assassin pro and the support streak. i get the most points in Kill confirmed because i cover so much ground and pick up a lot of the tags. i almost always come out with the nomad medal (most ground covered).

TDM is fun too, I am trying to adapt to slower style of play with the LMG's.

sts106mat

it takes skill, but doesnt necessarily reward it. I played MW3 occasionally and was terrible with like a 0.5 k/d ratio. My friend came over today and i spent all day playing MW3 with him and he helped me build a class, and afterwards i was usually topping the team score with like a 2.0 k/d ratio and doing better than him every match.

seems like knowing how to make a good class, and knowing the maps is most of the battle. Skill being secondary.

[QUOTE="SauceKing"]

[QUOTE="sts106mat"]

People who say it takes no skill are wrong, if they are talking about K/D ratio. but to be successfull and score points, maybe not. I am not good at the game generally, but i have a lot of fun with it. the new perk system is much more friendly for noobs like me. sometimes in Kill confirmed I come out with the best score, but my K/D ratio might end up 1/2 i dont mind its about having fun after all.

some maps & game types suit my particular playstyle better, which is racing around with the MP5 using rapid fire, assassin pro and the support streak. i get the most points in Kill confirmed because i cover so much ground and pick up a lot of the tags. i almost always come out with the nomad medal (most ground covered).

TDM is fun too, I am trying to adapt to slower style of play with the LMG's.

sts106mat

it takes skill, but doesnt necessarily reward it. I played MW3 occasionally and was terrible with like a 0.5 k/d ratio. My friend came over today and i spent all day playing MW3 with him and he helped me build a class, and afterwards i was usually topping the team score with like a 2.0 k/d ratio and doing better than him every match.

seems like knowing how to make a good class, and knowing the maps is most of the battle. Skill being secondary.

I dunno man all i did was use like the pp90 something or other submachine gun and drop shot everyone and it was pretty damn easy. Prior to my friend telling me what to do i was using single shot or 3 round burst rifles thinkin it was like reach where well placed shots would put me on top. Turns out you just need a gun that sprays a ton of bullets really fast.

tc build a class suited to your playstyle, that seems to be your biggest problem.

my class was a stealth based one with and M4 and i used to sneak and skulk around like a rambo come out with a better score than johhny camper.