If Cows think PS5 is getting any "headline" first party games before 2022, I have a bridge to sell you.

I hope santa monica hires more or does thing faster. I think GoW 4 was their only big output this gen.

I think you meant sheep.

You apparently don't know what the word redundant means.

What the hell would i care if the PS4 becomes redundant? Is an old system on the way out,i care about the new system,by the way if the PS5 doesn't play every single PS4 game the PS4 is not redundant you may still need it.

Now on the series X no you don't need one,and probably never will,because now those games are going to xbox one,and even if latter the xbox one get left behind,PC still there as well with your xbox games and with free online play i may add oh did i forgot superior graphics? You know that thing you didn't care about in 2013 but now you do desperately,yeah on PC is better and this holiday i am sure that for allot more than the gap between the PS5 and series X.

Is not using the same resources some assteds doesn't = ALL ASSETS stop inventing shit.

Worse does the PS4 does 4k? Can it do ray tracing? Can it do instant loading or have gameplay element with adaptive triggers?

Then the Visions sony had for the game could not be replicated on PS4,is not just about getting a water down version,is about the whole experience which again the PS4 can't deliver.

You are trully hurt by miles morales,and it shows by the menthal gymnastic your pulling to downplay it,sony is playing its cards right,Spiderman sold more on PS4 than Halo did on xbox one.

And is hugely popular franchise even more now than ever thank to movies.

No amount of damage control on your part or other lemmings will negate how smart it is of sony to have spiderman on launch.

Yeah the PS5 will not get a game until 2025,thanks for the confirmation,so how much time you have working for sony?

Resistance was good,the PS2 launch was better,the PS4 one was more meh but then again the xbox hasn't been either that great on launch.

Yet sony always dominate.

@tormentos: Yea, it’s not like that pesky little Halo game became a cultural phenomenon or anything...

Sony fanboys. Enjoy your weaker console next gen - oh, and buying the same games...again.

Every gen Sony have released a new IP that was massively successful to the point where a sequel was literally demanded by the consumers. Can MS say the same thing?

You have to keep the PS4 to play some PS4 games so that makes less redundant and thats a good thing?

Meanwhile I can play all the games on my X then sell it when I'm ready, by a series X and carry on playing the games on that at better performance.

Find a game that sells well, add an expansion, spruce up the graphics and claim it cant run on PS4 to make people buy PS5 and people like you lap it up. Meanwhile PC (and Xbox for that matter) games are able to run with varying graphical attributes looking top notch on some GPU while supporting less powerful ones. I thought you where better than that, PC for years has demonstrated you can have the latest graphics and support bottom end GPU's in same game.

They are milking the popularity. Don't blame them its business, but its not for the player, its for the shareholder.

PS4's first year exclusives:

Killzone, Knack, Resogun, Infamous, Driveclub, LBP3

PS5's first year exclusives:

GT7, Horizon 2, Ratchet and Clank 2, Demons Souls Remake, Spiderman Miles Morales, Returnal, Destruction All Stars, Sackboy

I think Sony will do okay.

add a 100 lol you think spiderman going to be 100?

so by that logic the series x will not have next gen titles until 4 years or more in. because once they finish cross gen games they need another 2 or more years to make another game.

there are more than one team in each studio. insomniac is doing miles and ratchet and clank at the same time.

@gifford38: He's including the cost of the PS5.

proof that we are buying the same games?

100 for the ps5 awesome sign me up lol. fact is we are getting a new version of the last gen spiderman with the dlc then a miles game on top of that. you think miles is going to be a 60 dollar game? first light for ps4 was only 15 dollars when it came out. its going to be 15-30 bucks for miles.

if you got say gears5 for the series x for free and was able to buy a dlc that is 50 percent the length of the original game you would not be happy? because it gives you something new that you have not played yet?

@gifford38: He said 100's. Plural.

i know but think about it. it might be even longer they have to wait. say these studio makes a xbox one cross gen games. then add how long it takes to make there next game after that. there looking at 4 years in or more.

but we are not paying 100's for us to play a miles spiderman game. we are spending 100's to play next gen games for the next 7 to 8 years or so before the next machines comes out. period.

What are the next gen launch titles?

My PS4 doesn't stop working as soon as the PS5 comes out why would i need to freaking throw out my console?

There is this thing that most people do is call keeping your old hardware,it may be a new concept to you now, who am i kidding you need one on 2013 when your xbox one wasn't compatible with a single xbox 360 game a time were non of you gave 3 shits about BC and happily pay $100 more for a 40% weaker kinect forced no BC TV TV TV machine and like it.

How is Spiderman and expansion when you can't freaking install it on your PS4 to expand the game you own?

You see spiderman got you so freaking butthurt that you want by all means downplay it by calling it an expansion even that you can't expand shit with it,since the game is a stand alone game.

You are crying about sony releasing a spiderman game,game which came 2 years ago almost already,but you never cry about Forza recycle shit that MS does every damn year and which will happen again this year with almost nothing new.

I don't even like spiderman that much,but many people do so now sony is bad because they want to have a game that appeal to many people and that will definetly sell some PS5,that some how is bad on your eyes but not the Forza milkaton MS has every year including this one,hell how many Forza games since 2013?

Yes that is because PC is 1 market,with many GPU it has been like that before the xbox even existed,i remember having a rage fury on my PC but there was Voodoo cards as well,that is how it has always work because of PC own nature.

That doesn't mean GPU from 2013 will keep supported,i mean a 7770 running Cyberpunk will probably give you shity results even on 720p.

Minimum Requirements, Predicted

• OS: Win 7 64
• Processor: Intel Core i5-10500T 6-Core 2.30GHz / AMD FX-8350
• Graphics: AMD Radeon R9 380X or NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB
• VRAM: 2GB
• System Memory: 8 GB RAM
• Storage: 70 GB Hard drive space
• DirectX 11 Compatible Graphics Card

They recomend a 380X for that game,so you see on PC this is normal as new hardware comes old one get left behind.

They could have sacrifice the experience but for what?

If sony wanted to deliver certain experience because they see it as a selling point,how would the PS4 version help them?

Forza 5

Forza 6

Forza 7

FH 2

FH 3

FH 4

And this year what will be the next chapter?

With this year chapter it would be 7 chapter in 7 years,now what is that shit you were saying about spiderman been milked?

You should have read the thread conversation you were replying to.

Your paying full wack launch price instead of having the option to wait for prices to settle or deals to come out.

Thats a good thing for Sony but not for the player.

@tormentos take a break man you going to have a nervous breakdown.

You buying the PS5 at launch or are you going to miss out on the new games?

EVERY CONFIRMED PS5 LAUNCH TITLE: godfall and miles which will not cost 60. these are all i need first day. plus im waiting to play ghost on the ps5. plus astrobot was my fav vr game this gen and we get a few hour one at launch for free. sony still has not confirmed all there launch games and im sure xbox has not either.

1. Marvel's Spider-Man Miles Morales
2. Godfall
3. Astro's Playroom
4. Dirt 5
5. Assassin's Creed Valhalla
6. Outriders
7. Observer System Redux
8. Destiny 2: Beyond Light
9. Jett: The Far Shore
10. Buggsnax
11. Deathloop
12. Madden NFL 21
13. NBA 2K21
14. Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2
15. Rainbow Six Siege

EVERY CONFIRMED XBOX SERIES X LAUNCH TITLE:

1. Halo Infinite
2. Destiny 2: Beyond Light
3. Rainbow Six Seige
4. Dirt 5
5. Assassin's Creed Valhalla
6. Outriders
7. Yakuza: Like a Dragon
8. The Ascent
9. The Medium
10. Madden NFL 21
11. NBA 2K21
12. Call of the Sea
13. Scorn
14. Rainbow Six Siege
15. Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2
16. Destiny 2: Beyond Light

@gifford38: how do you know the price of Miles and Godfall?

@gifford38: Looks like sticking with current gen systems would not be a bad idea for the vast majority of gamers.

i can play ps4 games on my ps5. i can download my purchased ps4 games on my ps5 if i want to.

and i be able to play my vr games on my ps5 as well. with the ps4 vr head set.

sorry you can't put ratchet and clank rift apart on last gen or its going to have a load screen every time you go through a rift. which will take you out of the game.

a near launch title beats you claim above.

thats your opinion. i think godfall looks great and hope ratchet and clank is near the launch window.

plus ghost i want to play at full settings. plus i want kera bridge of spirits which is a ps4 game as well but still want the ps5 version.

@tdkmillsy: by your logic with Spiderman , isn't Forza the same game every year?

Forza 8 is on Series X and Xbox One.

So much for a bridge I wanted to buy. I stopped reading after that quote.

Came to say the same. That was a quality AAA game. More please.

Also, Insomniac is an efficient developer. Expect Ratchet and Clank within 1.5yrs of launch. They put stuff out fast.

@gifford38: TL;DR. Why copy an already unnecessarily long post?

Sony always has crappy launch titles. What else is new? Meanwhile Xbox has the cultural phenomenon known as Halo launching. Makes my decision rather easy.

@Sevenizz: halo 4 sucked and halo 5 sucked. Infinite better be the second coming of Jesus

@phlop_spencer: Says the cow who hasn’t played either.

Next!

Sony wasn’t ready for next gen. Greatly inferior hardware. Inferior games. Inferior online experience.

@Pedro: You really need to stop with this same repeating narrative, its getting to ghost levels of annoying now.

yeah saying that to the company that sold 120 console this gen. greatly inferior lol nice one. greatly inferior would be if the ps5 was on the same level as the ps4 to the series x. inferior games lol say that to all the high scored exclusives this gen. inferior online what is the difference? we are all playing online.

sony knows what there doing. also the ps5 is the most demanded system even before the gen even starts.

lol :P

not for the player? there the ones who goes out to by the ps5. sony is not tying these people up and saying you better buy it first day or you will die. sorry but not ever launch title has been confirmed yet. if you was in this business you would know the term never put all your eggs in one basket. there first showing they do not show all of there games.

@gifford38: Actually in this industry we use the expression "never put all your triangles in the same ssd."

look at insomniac there making ratchet and clank and spiderman miles. these teams can be split in half because they grow in size. plus the ease of these systems using the same architecture as last gen (not completely new tech like gens before) will help these teams to split up and make two games at once.

look at uncharted next game. it's being down by another unknown developer. which im sure is the other half that left naughty dog.

https://kotaku.com/as-naughty-dog-crunches-on-the-last-of-us-ii-developer-1842289962

One major consequence of this culture has been attrition. Of the 20 non-lead designers in the credits of 2016’s Uncharted 4, a whopping 14—70 percent—are no longer at the studio, which has had wide-ranging effects on the development of The Last of Us II and led to questions about the continued viability of the

sony must of went to them and said this or that and gave them uncharted to do.

of course that is a guess lol. but yes uncharted is being done by a unknown developing team.

xbox fans think sony showed all there eggs in one basket in one showing. uncharted is being done by a unknown developer. we got silent hill still still.

Name 1 gen where Xbox had more AAAAE, and/or AAAE than the ps?

There is a reason Xbox fans are the cancer of gaming, only sells in the US, they can keep both.

They might get another SJW Movie-Game that no one likes except for SJW reviewers who are trying to break into a real career of movie reviews by only talking about story and acting since the actual game sucks. Games that no one talks about after the first weekend since they are only 1 time play casual movie games beaten in 1 casual sitting and 0 replay ability and bad gameplay. Better to watch on youtube.

But as for real games, probably not. All they really had this gen was Horizon Beta Test, and the by far best version of that is going on PC.

Last of Us 2 breaking sales records still got you bitter. 🤣

Extremely low retention and low user scores everywhere. Insulted on every forum, reddit, etc. The last 2 star wars movies broke $ records too.

Look I get it. You're bad at games and can only play movie games designed specifically for soccer moms to get them into "new age gaming". I get it. These are less games than cell phone games thats low. This is specifically for people lower than casual gamers.

@zaryia said:

@SecretPolice said:

@BlackShirt20 said:

Sony wasn’t ready for next gen. Greatly inferior hardware. Inferior games. Inferior online experience.

lol :P

lol :P

PLease provide proof of the low retention claim.

Low user score is atribute to fools such as your self who hate anything consoles as well as butthurt lemmings and lensbians haters.😂

I could care less if you think TLOU2 is a 0/10 what does Meta say?😎

Great sales great reviews damn sony is on fire.