If Gears of War 3 beat Uncharted 2 in the graphics department

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#101 gaming25
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[QUOTE="roflcopter317"]

[QUOTE="kong_sevixnine"]

Gears of War 2 came out late 2008.Killzone 2 came out early 2009 and topped it, that was less than a year. Months and months later came Uncharted 2 which looked better thanboth games

XD

I believe gears 2 was in production for 3 years, and killzone 2 was in production for 6 or more.

They didnt start making Killzone 2 until 2006. Because if they were making it in 2003, that means that they began making Killzone 2 a year and a half before they released Killzone.
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#102 gaming25
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[QUOTE="roflcopter317"]

[QUOTE="pc-ps360"]

god of war 3 and heavy rain already beat uncharted 2 graphics.

Hell no.

God of War 3 looks amazing, and Heavy Rain has the best character animations in video games.
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#104 roflcopter317
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[QUOTE="roflcopter317"]

[QUOTE="pc-ps360"]

god of war 3 and heavy rain already beat uncharted 2 graphics.

gaming25

Hell no.

God of War 3 looks amazing, and Heavy Rain has the best character animations in video games.

Uncharted 2 is the best looking ps3 game. God of war 3 looks ok, and since when does animations alone make the graphics better?

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#105 roflcopter317
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The game is coming out 2 years later. There's no reason for it NOT to look better.

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#106 gaming25
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[QUOTE="roflcopter317"]

[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="roflcopter317"]

Hell no.

God of War 3 looks amazing, and Heavy Rain has the best character animations in video games.

Uncharted 2 is the best looking ps3 game. God of war 3 looks ok, and since when does animations alone make the graphics better?

I never said it did. Im just telling you why someone would feel that way.
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#107 edwise18
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I personally don't think Uncharted 2 looks that great, if anything it's equal to or a little bit below gears 2 graphics in my opinion.

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#108 gpuking
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In the remote chance if it does, it still has KZ2, God of war 3 to beat. Then We move on to a higher tier which consists of Killzone 3, Uncharted 3 and Santa Monica's next game. Also don't ever count out The last guardian.

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#109 pc-ps360
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[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="roflcopter317"]

Hell no.

roflcopter317

God of War 3 looks amazing, and Heavy Rain has the best character animations in video games.

Uncharted 2 is the best looking ps3 game. God of war 3 looks ok, and since when does animations alone make the graphics better?

uncharted 2 looks amazing but compared to god of war 3 im sorry, but uncharted 2 is a jaggie mess

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#110 godzillavskong
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Yeh and it took 3 years for the ps3 to match the 360...G-O-M-J
Yeah, for a while the PS3 was a little dry in terms of games.Late to mid 2009 to 2010 has been pretty good to the PS3, and now you have some who are claiming graphical dominance! UC2 is a great looking game, but if Gears 3 tops it that won't do anything to hurt that title. The Unreal Engine may not be a first party engine for the 360, but it's no secret that it has been extremely optimized to run on that platform. Judging from the screenshots and video, it looks about as good as UC2 to me. Maybe not as vibrant,but really crisp, and fluid. Doesn't really matter to me though, I'll be getting Gears 3 at launch, and will eventually grab a copy of UC2 after I beat part 1.
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#111 neoXmahi
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I don't know how old this post is, I didn't really bother to look. The answer to your question is still that Uncharted 2: Among Thieves isn't possible on Xbox 360 still remains true. Not just because Sony owns the IP and Naughty Dog to boot. Graphics is a pretty general term. Notice whenever asked about Uncharted 2, the interviewer says, "Uncharted is a beautiful game." (Period) "Do you think Uncharted 2 would be possible on the Xbox 360?" Christophe Ballestra (Naughty Dogs Co-President) always responds, "No, Uncharted 2 isn't possible on the Xbox 360 thanks in part to blu-ray and the Cell. Without them, we could have never accomplished what he have with Uncharted." Its not all about sharp looking images and cranking the AA up but what the graphics card processor can do. The nVidia card in the PS3 is clearly inferior to the Xbox 360 ATI graphics card. But the Cell Processor makes up for its inferiority and even surpasses what the capabilities of the ATI in the 360 can do. Look at the PlayStation 2. Launch titles were alright for their time, but when God of War came out, it was mind boggling. The PlayStation hardware always has an incredible lifespan as new things are always discovered. Look at the difference in graphics from Uncharted 2 to Uncharted 3 and what more they can do. EA says the 360 is maxed out. That they've done it, but the PS3 still has room for growth. Sony builds their consoles that way well, since the beginning. Physics within a game and how much data can be processed and how fast it can be done is also considered in graphics. How many things and how many details can happen on a single moment. How characters and objects move and react is all part of a games graphics. I think Naughty Dog and Ballestra speak in those terms as well.
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#112 jasonharris48
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[QUOTE="GGam3r"][QUOTE="roflcopter317"]

Do you realise Gears 2, and most of the other 360 exclusives came out years before uncharted 2, back when the game devs didn't have the tech?

ArtisTool

Gears of War 2 came out late 2008. Killzone 2 came out early 2009 and topped it, that was less than a year. Months and months later came Uncharted 2 which looked better than both games, but so far nothing has topped Uncharted 2 and we're getting closer and closer into 2011.

MGS4 looks better then Gears 2 and it came out before... It won best graphics pretty much everywhere, Gamespot, IGN, Spike...

No, it doesn't outside of the character models MGS4 wasn't that great looking (but that isn't to say it was a bad looking game).

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#113 rybe1025
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I think it does already but it does not matter since the Sony diehards would never admit it no matter what. I do not need others to tell me what looks best when I can use my own eyes to tell me.
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#114 Bus-A-Bus
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In the remote chance if it does, it still has KZ2, God of war 3 to beat. Then We move on to a higher tier which consists of Killzone 3, Uncharted 3 and Santa Monica's next game. Also don't ever count out The last guardian.

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You got to be kiddin me?

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#115 19elderscroll86
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gears 2 looks better so of course gears 3 will.

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#116 MrSelf-Destruct
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Does it matter, TC? The truth is that it still wins. I can't say anything for the SP yet, but Gears 3 MP looks a damn sight better than Uncharted 2 MP. I'll admit I'm thoroughly impressed with the graphics. Especially when you consider how ugly Gears 2 was.
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#117 AnxietyAttack
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[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="G-O-M-J"]Yeh and it took 3 years for the ps3 to match the 360...hd5870corei7

Actually, in visuals, Uncharted 1 bested Gears 1 in 07. The 360 didn't take the crown back until 08 with Gears 2, in which it was taken back by the ps3 in 09 with KZ2, and trademarked by the ps3 with UC2 later that year.

False. MGS4 > Gears 2. In terms of exclusives, and no multiplats : Nov 2006 = Gears 1 on 360 is the graphics king for 12 months Nov 2007 = Uncharted 1 on PS3 is the graphics king for 8 months June 2008 = MGS4 on the Ps3 is the graphics king for 8 months (surpassing UC1 and Gears 2 coming right behind UC1) Feb 2009 = KZ2 on the PS3 is the graphics king for 8 months October 2009 = Uncharted 2 on the PS3 is the graphics king for 5 months (PS3 held the title 2 years in a row) March 2010 = God of War 3 on the PS3 is the graphics for for 6 months of as of today (UC2 being second, KZ2 third, Heavy Rain 4th, and then finally Alan Wake/multiplats/MGS4 )

Is there some official book of stats to back up this purecrap your spewing out?

I had a real good laugh though, one of the best comedy posts today.

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#118 mellodude12
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Me personally... i would give the Ps3 like a 115 and a 360 around a 90(in graphics) Crysis 2 is the best graphics a 360 is capable of and the 360 can't even run it properly and there are loads of glitches and bugs. Uncharted 2, God of war 3, Killzone 3 perform much smoother and graphically looks just as good if not better then Crysis 2. The 360 does do lighting better, but the Ps3 does everything else much better including textures. I haven't seen a 360 game yet with as impressive textures as Killzone 3 or Socom 4
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#119 mellodude12
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In the remote chance if it does, it still has KZ2, God of war 3 to beat. Then We move on to a higher tier which consists of Killzone 3, Uncharted 3 and Santa Monica's next game. Also don't ever count out The last guardian.

gpuking
Absolutely this. Infamous 2 is looking amazing too! p.s From what I've seen of Uncharted 3 sp it blows away anything I've seen upcoming for the 360.
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#120 soulitane
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[QUOTE="gpuking"]

In the remote chance if it does, it still has KZ2, God of war 3 to beat. Then We move on to a higher tier which consists of Killzone 3, Uncharted 3 and Santa Monica's next game. Also don't ever count out The last guardian.

mellodude12
Absolutely this. Infamous 2 is looking amazing too! p.s From what I've seen of Uncharted 3 sp it blows away anything I've seen upcoming for the 360.

I always find it amusing when people say that one game console game blows another away when it's just slightly better.
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#121 savagetwinkie
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Graphics between the consoles are a tiny difference... Seriously if graphics were a number then the PS3 would have 100 "graphics" and the xbox probably 103 "Graphics"... Basic analogy but it's not all about raw power... PS3 architecture is much better suited to fluid dynamics compared to the xbox, meaning water effects not just splashes and ripples but full on weight and physics of water are much easier to achieve without much effect... But obviously lighting and shading is better on xbox, just depends on the style used by the developer which determines how a game looks, it aint all resolution and detail.JohnF111
i wish more people understood this, there isn't a clear more powerful since both systems do something better
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#122 AnxietyAttack
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Me personally... i would give the Ps3 like a 115 and a 360 around a 90(in graphics) Crysis 2 is the best graphics a 360 is capable of and the 360 can't even run it properly and there are loads of glitches and bugs. Uncharted 2, God of war 3, Killzone 3 perform much smoother and graphically looks just as good if not better then Crysis 2. The 360 does do lighting better, but the Ps3 does everything else much better including textures. I haven't seen a 360 game yet with as impressive textures as Killzone 3 or Socom 4mellodude12
Socom 4?

Really?

First off, i haven't seen a console game yet on either current gen platform that is 100% consistant graphically.

Next, I'm pretty dam sure that the Xenos GPU in the 360 does Textures and fill rate a lot better than the RSX.

A lot better.

The fact that Crysis2 is even comparable to the PS3's best.. being just a multi-plat engine, says multitudes about the 360 true capabilities in the hands of a talented developer.

Finally, the fact that you mentioned Socom 4 as a graphical beast means you have zero creditability!

Lmao!

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#123 mellodude12
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[QUOTE="mellodude12"][QUOTE="gpuking"]

In the remote chance if it does, it still has KZ2, God of war 3 to beat. Then We move on to a higher tier which consists of Killzone 3, Uncharted 3 and Santa Monica's next game. Also don't ever count out The last guardian.

soulitane
Absolutely this. Infamous 2 is looking amazing too! p.s From what I've seen of Uncharted 3 sp it blows away anything I've seen upcoming for the 360.

I always find it amusing when people say that one game console game blows another away when it's just slightly better.

haha i wasn't just talking about graphics
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#124 soulitane
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[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="mellodude12"]Absolutely this. Infamous 2 is looking amazing too! p.s From what I've seen of Uncharted 3 sp it blows away anything I've seen upcoming for the 360.mellodude12
I always find it amusing when people say that one game console game blows another away when it's just slightly better.

haha i wasn't just talking about graphics

Well in a thread about graphics I thought you were :P

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#125 mellodude12
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[QUOTE="mellodude12"]Me personally... i would give the Ps3 like a 115 and a 360 around a 90(in graphics) Crysis 2 is the best graphics a 360 is capable of and the 360 can't even run it properly and there are loads of glitches and bugs. Uncharted 2, God of war 3, Killzone 3 perform much smoother and graphically looks just as good if not better then Crysis 2. The 360 does do lighting better, but the Ps3 does everything else much better including textures. I haven't seen a 360 game yet with as impressive textures as Killzone 3 or Socom 4AnxietyAttack

Socom 4?

Really?

First off, i haven't seen a console game yet on either current gen platform that is 100% consistant graphically.

Next, I'm pretty dam sure that the Xenos GPU in the 360 does Textures and fill rate a lot better than the RSX.

A lot better.

The fact that Crysis2 is even comparable to the PS3's best.. being just a multi-plat engine, says multitudes about the 360 true capabilities in the hands of a talented developer.

Finally, the fact that you mentioned Socom 4 as a graphical beast means you have zero creditability!

Lmao!

I will be more clear. Crysis 2 is the 360's best but its not the Ps3's best. Games like Uncharted 2, God of War 3 that were released a while ago STILL look as good as Crysis 2(at the very least, IMO they look better) BUT here's the thing they PERFORM much better then Crysis 2. And were not even talking about upcoming beasts like Uncharted 3. And regardless of Socom 4 scores it has amazing textures and character models. Ive seen nothing on the 360 that compares Killzone 3 is just so much better too. Those games PROVE that the Ps3 does textures better
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#126 MrSelf-Destruct
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#127 kalipekona
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[QUOTE="GGam3r"][QUOTE="roflcopter317"]

Do you realise Gears 2, and most of the other 360 exclusives came out years before uncharted 2, back when the game devs didn't have the tech?

ArtisTool

Gears of War 2 came out late 2008. Killzone 2 came out early 2009 and topped it, that was less than a year. Months and months later came Uncharted 2 which looked better than both games, but so far nothing has topped Uncharted 2 and we're getting closer and closer into 2011.

MGS4 looks better then Gears 2 and it came out before... It won best graphics pretty much everywhere, Gamespot, IGN, Spike...

I don't care what graphics awards it won at the time, MGS4 is not very impressive to me. Fuzzy image quality, lots of jaggies, and low res textures make it look pretty mediocre. There are many games on both consoles that look better than MGS4.

As for whether Gears 3 will look better than Uncharted 2, well I think it is possible based on what I have seen so far. But I do think that Uncharted 2 will probably still have more artistry and polish. Uncharted 3 will also likely surpass both of them.

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#128 sethman410
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Macutchi, Lol @ your sig. It's epic.

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Damage control already

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#130 gpuking
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[QUOTE="gpuking"]

In the remote chance if it does, it still has KZ2, God of war 3 to beat. Then We move on to a higher tier which consists of Killzone 3, Uncharted 3 and Santa Monica's next game. Also don't ever count out The last guardian.

Bus-A-Bus

You got to be kiddin me?

AM I? Even UC2 looks better in lighting, models and shaders "SSS on foliage and ice" and realtime reflection.
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#131 sethman410
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Know what else is sad also? Gears is the only top notch graphical game exclusive for 360. (only comparable to the best on ps3 side)
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#132 MC3887
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Crysis 2 so more like a year and 3 mos?

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#133 Forza4Champion
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If it beats it, good for it. Uncharted 2 still looks fantastic.

Comparing high end graphics now is like comparing two million dollar Ferraris of the same model and saying one is better because it has a tiny bit more shine in the paint because it isn't as dirty.

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Rofls!! Good analogy
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#134 Funconsole
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If it beats it, good for it. Uncharted 2 still looks fantastic.

Comparing high end graphics now is like comparing two million dollar Ferraris of the same model and saying one is better because it has a tiny bit more shine in the paint because it isn't as dirty.

Wasdie
This. At this point of the gen (especially with these high caliber 1st party games), it comes down to "X has 1 more pixel than Y, so by default, X wins"
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#135 momentum_god
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Equal graphics does NOT prove a system can handle a game, some things that actually effect gameplay are taxing on the cpu even if it can match pretty looking it doesn't mean it has everything going on as the other one does, I mean psn games are in 1080p but I don't think wipeout HD is more taxing then Infamous

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#136 Badosh
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If? It does, but it doesn't matter. Graphics don't make the game.
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#137 BanMido76
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Consoles have already hit their peak in performance quite a long while back.

It's more about how creative a developer can work with these limits.

You have to know what are the most important assets to make highly detailed and which ones should be low detailed or cut from the game.

You substitute effects that are demanding for effects that are not as good but are less demanding.

You use more scripted events as it does not require as much hardware power.

When using those scripted scenes it may free up some extra performance that can be used to improve visuals while within those scripted scenes.

Basically it's not a battle of technical graphics but a battle of art style and how creative developers are.

I am sure the best looking PS3 games could be done on the xbox 360 just as well and visa versa.

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#138 LucidJubilation
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Then it would be kind of sad that it took the 360 2 years (comes out 2011) to reach a game that came out in 2009. Plus doesn't Naughty Dog work on 2 year cycles? So Uncharted 3 would come out soon after that. But also at the same time it may prove that the 360 can handle Uncharted 2 graphics. Naughty Dog already said there is much more optimizing they can do so that Uncharted looks even better. The leap from Uncharted 1 to 2 is huge, and maybe the leap from Uncharted 2 to 3 will also be huge. What are your thoughts?GGam3r

my thoughts:

LMAO :lol: u MAD huh??:P

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#139 worknow222
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Crazy Thought dont you think they will be on par with each other? anyone else notice this is a thread from last year?

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#140 AnxietyAttack
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[QUOTE="AnxietyAttack"]

[QUOTE="mellodude12"]Me personally... i would give the Ps3 like a 115 and a 360 around a 90(in graphics) Crysis 2 is the best graphics a 360 is capable of and the 360 can't even run it properly and there are loads of glitches and bugs. Uncharted 2, God of war 3, Killzone 3 perform much smoother and graphically looks just as good if not better then Crysis 2. The 360 does do lighting better, but the Ps3 does everything else much better including textures. I haven't seen a 360 game yet with as impressive textures as Killzone 3 or Socom 4mellodude12

Socom 4?

Really?

First off, i haven't seen a console game yet on either current gen platform that is 100% consistant graphically.

Next, I'm pretty dam sure that the Xenos GPU in the 360 does Textures and fill rate a lot better than the RSX.

A lot better.

The fact that Crysis2 is even comparable to the PS3's best.. being just a multi-plat engine, says multitudes about the 360 true capabilities in the hands of a talented developer.

Finally, the fact that you mentioned Socom 4 as a graphical beast means you have zero creditability!

Lmao!

I will be more clear. Crysis 2 is the 360's best but its not the Ps3's best. Games like Uncharted 2, God of War 3 that were released a while ago STILL look as good as Crysis 2(at the very least, IMO they look better) BUT here's the thing they PERFORM much better then Crysis 2. And were not even talking about upcoming beasts like Uncharted 3. And regardless of Socom 4 scores it has amazing textures and character models. Ive seen nothing on the 360 that compares Killzone 3 is just so much better too. Those games PROVE that the Ps3 does textures better

The XBOX360 version of Crysis2 graphically pounds the snot out of any current PS3 exclusive according to a"whopping"majority of the internet and that include review sites.

And fyi Halo Reach textures smash Socom 4 textures into the ground easily imho.

Socom 4 looks worse than MAG!

Nuff said.

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#141 CwlHeddwyn
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Consoles have already hit their peak in performance quite a long while back.

It's more about how creative a developer can work with these limits.

You have to know what are the most important assets to make highly detailed and which ones should be low detailed or cut from the game.

You substitute effects that are demanding for effects that are not as good but are less demanding.

You use more scripted events as it does not require as much hardware power.

When using those scripted scenes it may free up some extra performance that can be used to improve visuals while within those scripted scenes.

Basically it's not a battle of technical graphics but a battle of art style and how creative developers are.

I am sure the best looking PS3 games could be done on the xbox 360 just as well and visa versa.

BanMido76
I agree, now its all about smoke and mirrors, tricks from developers to make games look better now that the systems are maxed. Crytek said PS360 is maxed, so have Codemasters.
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#142 Reiko2K1
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Did someone in this topic honestly say that Killzone 3 has better quality textures compared to Gears 3?

Oh man. lol

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#143 fabz_95
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Then it would be a good achievement for Gears 3, sure it's a much newer game but the fact that many other games released after UC2 do not look better than it shows what a good looking game UC2 is meaning it'd be great for Gears to beat it.
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#144 chandraraghav92
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sigh.... I play Crysis on very high with natural mod. it is a beast of a game.. No doubts. Uncharted 2 does match it and surpass it in many regards. Water effects, physics, character detail and animation, artistic style, general particle effects and some textures (the ground and walls in crysis are rather low-resolution. Crysis has overall many better shaders. shadowing, and some voumetric effects.. Before anyone bashes this, Cavat Yerli, i believe, who is the head of crytek said himself he was very impressed with Uncharted 2. Please please please no immature bashing :( i love both games to death Both are amazing and incredibly fun :) but yes they are better than gears 2 and from teh gameplay trailer, yes U2 is better than gears 3
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#145 Ultra_Combo
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I love all the arguing about graphics, It's all opinion now so deal with it. C2 looks better then any console game , no one can prove me wrong. And gears beta looks better then any console multiplayer.

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#146 Malta_1980
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i just want to play both games since both games are awesome :) (well Geow3 is not out yet but am sure it will be an amazing title)

also i guess Geow3 will be compared to UC3 considering they are both coming out later this year

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#147 strangeisland
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imo Gears 3 already tops Uncharted 2

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#149 Ultra_Combo
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imo Gears 3 already tops Uncharted 2

strangeisland

And thats the Beta mutilplayer vs single player and as cows like to says now they have alot of time to polish imagine how good it will look.:)

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#150 Ultra_Combo
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lol damage control. cows said it was impossible for 360 to produce uncharted 2like visuals and now they're saying it took too long tobeat UC2 :|

Harisemo

There either saying that or quoting each other about how 360 somehow still doesn't compete when 360 already has a game that easily competes with anything on their console :lol: