If Halo Infinite doesn't get at least a 90 on metacritic, is it a flop?

Guess well see. Will just have to put up with your drivel either way.

No escaping it, dude.

I know, it's like you just can't stand to see people enjoying it. What ever makes you happy though and all that.

I become enraged when i see people praise a 343i product. Can't do anything about it, its just my body.

This looks so much fun.

Nobody cares about metacrits besides sony

I'm not talking about the new GoW. Only the old ones. And I'm not talking about the "spectable", just the gameplay.

And I'm referring to Halo being like some of the 3rd person movie games on PS.

The cows and their fruity physics. Truly embarrassing for SWs.

It's really stupid. You see 70 reviews and really you trust about 5 or 6 of them.

It already is nothing groundbreaking. Nothing novel, same old halo since... 20 years...

And now it has become a f2p mp fps. Throw it on a pile with all the other generic fps.

@hardwenzen: lol no 😂

lol no what? unless BR is announced very soon after the game launches, Halo is done in about a month. Halo 5 all over again.

Halo 5 is still being played

Most of SW do, when the balance tip in their favor. Does Knack and Driveclub ring a bell?

On metacritic? Maybe, but here, it was a 9/10.

that's like saying Black Ops 1 is still being played. Having a few people on the servers doesn't mean the playerbase is healthy, especially for such a huge franchise.

It’s called “preference“. You think it was bad, but it doesn’t mean that it‘s a bad game by law.

Infinite beta has issues. That's not preference or personal opinion.

Dat poll. ;o

Poo leader of the bovine brigade, just another...

Good stuff. lolol :P

Lmao, even Lems don't have faith in this game 🤣

Yet the game is 6 years old, there arent that many FPS MP games that are that old and are still getting daily players? Doesn't quite fit your narrative of it'll be dead in a month.

Just realistic.

The MP looks great, but we've not seen anything of the SP so could be a load of shit.

Difference is I want it to be good unlike you guys that seem desperate for it to flop.

I have an XSX with Gamepass why would I want it to flop 😎

I've no idea to be honest, I'm still trying to figure that out.

Where does it say I want it to flop 😎

Well, the fact you made a thread about it flopping if it doesn't hit some arbitrary goal suggests you're keen for it to do poorly.

@gym_lion: nope, simply asking if people would consider it a flop if it doesn't get the 90 mark, which is considered must play status. Why should we hold MS to a lower standard for their flagship franchise just because you're emotionally attached to it?

Wanting a game to be good doesn't mean I'm emotionally attached, I just want every game to be good. As gamers why would you want games to be bad.

In any case, I'm looking forward to playing it either way.

People already damage controlling because it most likely won't get higher than 75 on MC. maybe 79 at most.

How so? The only thing that those 3 had over GOW was combat. Aside from NG on the original Xbox vs GOW 1 and 2, GOW typically had better visuals than DMC or even Bayonetta, and it even eventually surpassed NG with GOW3, it even have received better overall reviews as far as a series go than both NG and DMC, only to be slightly bested by Bayonetta with only 2 games in the series vs GOW with 5 console games (not counting remasters) and 2 handheld games. GOW also told a MUCH better story than any of the competition hands down (IMHO of course).

If you went down further through the replies, you'd see I was talking about the gameplay only.

All that matters is sales. As long as they make their money back and then some, which I can't see being a hard thing to do as it is Halo, then they will have accomplished their goal, critic scores be damned.

Also I'm not exactly expecting a riveting story (which normally gets those 90+ metacritic scores) from Halo anymore.

I consider a flop to be something that looses money after release. I don't think Halo Infinite will be a perfect game at all, but it will have a legion of fans that will buy tons of microtransactions for it when it releases. The game could meta in the 70's and a million people will still pay money for a green gun skin to match their colored armor.

I don't know what are MS's commercial expectation from it but one thing is certain, it wouldn't even be a blip on a radar and won't be able to have any meaningful impact compared to the rest of the popular FPS/BR out there.

The hype for halo has dwindled for me I was hyped it plays ok but doesn't look next gen.

I'm expecting a mid-80's meta, with more content and patches in the first year and beyond bringing it to be a 90 deserving game. This is 343 we're talking about

I haven’t tried the Halo: Infinite multiplayer beta myself but from what I’m hearing it all sounds like some great stuff. Am very hyped. 😁

Because you're a cow and cows hate everything that isn't on PS. Don't pretend that just because you own an XSX you aren't ultra biased.

Why would sales matter more than the game it self as a consumer? Why should any consumer care about sales? The only thing we should be concerned about is the gameplay and whether or not we enjoy it.

@kingtito: I was talking more from the point of view of the company putting it out not the players. TC asked if it doesn't reach 90 on metacritic is it considered a flop? But he didn't say from which point of view so I assumed the point of view of the company. Because they don't care if its at 5 on metacritic as long as everyone and their mom are buying Halo, 343 and Microsoft are happy.

But obviously, yes, as a consumer I only care in the end if the gameplay is enjoyable. Didn't think I needed to clarify that but ok.

Yes from the companies point of view you'd be right but knowing the TC I knew he was speaking from the users point of view. Guess it did need to be clarified

@kingtito: Yep, my mistake.

Here's a question, since it is 343 again (the guys who did Halo 4 and 5), do you personally think it will be a great game either story-wise or multiplayer? I've been seeing a lot of people hating on 343 for both of the last two Halo games over the years. I haven't played 5 but 4 was ok.

For me, I don't think 343 has really brought anything cool to the series and nothing to the greatness of the original 3 games. I really didn't like the new robot enemies IIRC from Halo 4 and I don't think they are doing a good job with the story but perhaps that was fixed in 5. Idk.

Multiplayer sure but story wise?? I doubt it. It'll be entertaining but I don't have any faith in 343 to make it great since they've yet to do it but you never know. Either way I'll play it like all other Halo games.

It wasn't fixed it 5 although I found it entertaining to play and that's pretty much all I expect from games these days. I'd play 5 just to get caught up before Infinite launches.

A “beta” having issues??!!

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t that the whole purpose of a “beta”?

There are three types of flops: (1) poor sales, (2) poor reviews, (3) both.

Halo will sell, and sell big, and I think most players will end up enjoying some aspect of it.

The verdict is out on the review. The campaign is not launching with coop, the multiplayer is going free to play which means microtransactions, and the game has been luke warm thus far. I'm hearing good things coming out of the multiplayer which is great. I could see this being 8/10 if the campaign does not shape up.

Put it this way, Halo fans will buy it regardless. Casuals who don't read reviews will buy it.

The reality is, the game will be extremely accessible so there's no reason for most people not to try it out and form their own opinions.

Critic's opinions of this game will be less impactful.

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got less than 90%

Are they flops??

But the population of Halo 5 is extremely healthy, so I still don't understand your point.

17 people on the servers is not what i'd call healthy.

It'll really come down to the single player.

They multiplayer looks really good ... people have been waiting for this quality from Halo for over a decade at this point.