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#51 eddy_of_york
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Well as good as any one game can be, it's still inherently limited by the fac ttha tit is only one game.
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#52 Big_T-Mac
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or maybe it caused 30 million ppl to buy xboxes and caused the 360 to already win the console war against sony in north america. i think thats pretty damn impressive if u ask me.
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#53 coonana
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[QUOTE="coonana"]It is true that Xbox sold the least consoles out of the three and lost the most money and had the weakest software sales overall but Halo was still a good game. Your example is terrible because Dreamcast had loads of good games and it failed ever worse.Ultimas_Blade
Xbox came in second. It sold a few million more than the GC.

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#54 Daytona_178
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I have never heard such an idiot in my life,.... ever!
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#55 Riverwolf007
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The tc came here and trolled all of you into posting like mad and never even responded once, you are all owned.
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#56 DanBal76
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[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"][QUOTE="coonana"]It is true that Xbox sold the least consoles out of the three and lost the most money and had the weakest software sales overall but Halo was still a good game. Your example is terrible because Dreamcast had loads of good games and it failed ever worse.coonana

Xbox came in second. It sold a few million more than the GC.

false

Regarding units sold, true.

Xbox: 24 million units sold http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox

GC: 21 million units sold http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamecube

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#57 killtactics
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[QUOTE="DanBal76"]

[QUOTE="sulimanhustler"]Yes, if Halo was so good why did it not change the way of the xbox and make it a better console than the ps2. Why didn't it increase sales? Maybe it wasn't that great.Boostinsane

Strange, for me Xbox IS a better console than PS2.

don't let your bias fool you. PS2 is better than the Xbox and there is an overwhalming amount of things that proves this that I won't bother going over. Halo was really the only good game that came out of the dump that was the xbox and help build a fondation for the powerhouse that is the XBOX 360 today. The Xbox was really just doing it's best to stand on it's own feet, and now that it's learn to walk, watch it run.

  dont let your bias fool you? that should have ended with... let my bias fool you..
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#58 demoralizer
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The tc came here and trolled all of you into posting like mad and never even responded once, you are all owned. Riverwolf007

You can't troll SW :roll:

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#59 Fumpa
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Yes, if Halo was so good why did it not change the way of the xbox and make it a better console than the ps2. Why didn't it increase sales? Maybe it wasn't that great.sulimanhustler
you're silly. are you just bored (like me) and just felt like causing a little ruckus?
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#60 LordoverFeind
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The xbox floped because it had started last and sony locked up all the exclusives plus ms didn't own the hardware. That said the xbox was a very good console and halo helped sell that console. While I am not a halo head (I am a hermit) it introduced console gamers to fps that missed unreal on the dreamcast.
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#61 Wasdie  Moderator
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Wait the Xbox failed? This is news to me...
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#62 creativeminded
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Yes, if Halo was so good why did it not change the way of the xbox and make it a better console than the ps2. Why didn't it increase sales? Maybe it wasn't that great.sulimanhustler
most people loved Halo but not many people r willing to buy a whole console for one game. I believe if Halo was released on ALL consoles it would have done fantastic (more so then it already has)
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#63 joe_g_patton
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I know why this thread failed.........because the XBox didn't fail

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#64 DanBal76
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The xbox floped because it had started last and sony locked up all the exclusives plus ms didn't own the hardware. That said the xbox was a very good console and halo helped sell that console. While I am not a halo head (I am a hermit) it introduced console gamers to fps that missed unreal on the dreamcast.
LordoverFeind

You know, at least in my case you are right. Halo was the game that made me like FPSs, and now i'm a big fan of the series, regardless of the system. I even got used to keyboard and mouse (wich i hated) and for some time now i play PC FPSs too, all thanks to Halo.

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#65 Elviathan
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Because 1 game cannot change the tide of the console war.
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#66 Big_T-Mac
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The xbox floped because it had started last and sony locked up all the exclusives plus ms didn't own the hardware. That said the xbox was a very good console and halo helped sell that console. While I am not a halo head (I am a hermit) it introduced console gamers to fps that missed unreal on the dreamcast.
LordoverFeind
I'd hate to drop some knowledge on you, but console fpses were around well before any version of unreal tournament. by that time goldeneye had been out for years and rainbow six was a much bigger shooter than ut for dc was.
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#67 LordoverFeind
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[QUOTE="LordoverFeind"]The xbox floped because it had started last and sony locked up all the exclusives plus ms didn't own the hardware. That said the xbox was a very good console and halo helped sell that console. While I am not a halo head (I am a hermit) it introduced console gamers to fps that missed unreal on the dreamcast.
Big_T-Mac
I'd hate to drop some knowledge on you, but console fpses were around well before any version of unreal tournament. by that time goldeneye had been out for years and rainbow six was a much bigger shooter than ut for dc was.



My bad let me clear the air "online" fps. I am well aware of the mighty and immortal goldeneye on the n64 as for rainbow 6 and it was good but unreal was better imo.
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#68 ganondorf_002
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:lol:

PS2: Puny Xbox with your Ninja Gaiden and Halo, bow before my massive library of mostly mediocre games!

OG Xbox: Strike me down, and I shall become more powerful than ever!

...

Xbox 360: I have returned!

Sony *gasps*: PS3 attack for massive damage!

Xbox 360 *It is very ineffective!*: Muah Ha Ha

PS3: ^_^; *escapes*

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:lol: the Xbox was just the warm up
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#69 Big_T-Mac
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[QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"][QUOTE="LordoverFeind"]The xbox floped because it had started last and sony locked up all the exclusives plus ms didn't own the hardware. That said the xbox was a very good console and halo helped sell that console. While I am not a halo head (I am a hermit) it introduced console gamers to fps that missed unreal on the dreamcast.
LordoverFeind
I'd hate to drop some knowledge on you, but console fpses were around well before any version of unreal tournament. by that time goldeneye had been out for years and rainbow six was a much bigger shooter than ut for dc was.



My bad let me clear the air "online" fps. I am well aware of the mighty and immortal goldeneye on the n64 as for rainbow 6 and it was good but unreal was better imo.

wha?????? rainbow 6 was a masterpiece in my opinion. oh well, we all have our tastes.
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#70 Svarthek
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The Xbox was a pretty bad console. Halo saved it.
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#71 SambaLele
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[QUOTE="sulimanhustler"]Yes, if Halo was so good why did it not change the way of the xbox and make it a better console than the ps2. Why didn't it increase sales? Maybe it wasn't that great.justforlotr2004


Since when did Xbox fail? If it failed then why is there a second Xbox?

One game isnt going to cause everyone to switch from PS2 to Xbox, but it did help set the system in stone that it was here to stay.



xbox WAS a failure. MS couldn't get any profits out of it. Instead they lose billions with their console.
If it was any other company, there would be no Xbox 360. But MS has as much $$$ as there is, and they know how profitable the gaming market can be. So they chose to try again. Plain simple.
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#72 mwa
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xbox wasn't the best selling console of its generation, but that doesn't make it a failure

dreamcast was a failure, 3DO was a failure, atari jaguar was a failure, xbox was definitely not a failure

it allowed microsoft to carve out a place for itself in the console market and introduce Live, both of which provided a solid base on which MS could build to do even better with the 360
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#73 krunkmastax
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Halo was the reason The Xbox didn't "fail" as you say...it kept the console afloat and paved the way for the Xbox 360.
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#74 winner-ps3
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Halo is the only reason it didn't die.

BigDizz

exactly! and that MS has enough money to keep it alive

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#75 winner-ps3
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xbox wasn't the best selling console of its generation, but that doesn't make it a failure

dreamcast was a failure, 3DO was a failure, atari jaguar was a failure, xbox was definitely not a failure

it allowed microsoft to carve out a place for itself in the console market and introduce Live, both of which provided a solid base on which MS could build to do even better with the 360mwa

ah yes it was a failure. there is only another one bc MS has too much money

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#76 theboxmike
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Halo saved the xbox.......i know becuase well.......i was one of those people that bought an xbox just for halo!!:Dno regrets ethier!!
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#77 james9676
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Yes, if Halo was so good why did it not change the way of the xbox and make it a better console than the ps2. Why didn't it increase sales? Maybe it wasn't that great.sulimanhustler
Xbox failing don't make me laugh xbox is the best thing ever i've never heard it failing before lol(MY opinion) Halo is great, great online play and great story line
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#78 Trashface
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The Xbox did not fail. It was a more powerful machine than the PS2 and had a large library. Just because a system didn't end in the lead does not mean it failed.
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#79 coonana
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[QUOTE="coonana"]

[QUOTE="Ultimas_Blade"][QUOTE="coonana"]It is true that Xbox sold the least consoles out of the three and lost the most money and had the weakest software sales overall but Halo was still a good game. Your example is terrible because Dreamcast had loads of good games and it failed ever worse.DanBal76

Xbox came in second. It sold a few million more than the GC.

false

Regarding units sold, true.

Xbox: 24 million units sold http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox

GC: 21 million units sold http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamecube

those are old numbers.

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#80 bvinton45
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This cracks me up on how many uninformed people are out there. If you have read anything other than system wars, you would now that MS did not project to make money on the Xbox. They knew they would lose money for the whole generation. They plan on making money for the first time in 2008. Their goal was plain and simple with the Xbox. Build a brand name, develop a couple of first person franchises and get a media center extension from your pc to you living room. Which they are now doing with the 360. What is the best way to get technology into the living room of people it is through gaming. Build a console with good games people will buy. Tie this into the pc, last time I checked MS is doing pretty well in that department, and then tie everything togther so you will need all their products. That is MS goal. IPTV, downloadable content, live anywhere, contant communication with the cyber world. All controlled through your pc and 360. People need to look at the Macro not the Micro level of things and MS can do this with their unlimited resources. Not many companies have that ability.
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#81 beinss
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i cant understand your thread. All im getting from it is your bashing halo because Sony doesnt have any good games.
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#82 james9676
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i cant understand your thread. All im getting from it is your bashing halo because Sony doesnt have any good games.beinss
your right there about sony
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Yes, if Halo was so good why did it not change the way of the xbox and make it a better console than the ps2. Why didn't it increase sales? Maybe it wasn't that great.sulimanhustler

the xbox created over 20 million customers from NOTHING.... no name recognition, no legendary franchises (until halo), and lauunched the most comprehensive online service ever known for gaming....

only the ignorant think it "failed"....;)

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#84 BuryMe
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the xbox didn't fail.

halo is probably the reason it lived at all

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[QUOTE="sulimanhustler"]Yes, if Halo was so good why did it not change the way of the xbox and make it a better console than the ps2. Why didn't it increase sales? Maybe it wasn't that great.too_much_eslim
One piece of wood can keep you a float, but many allows you to sail.

that was pretty clever.

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#86 Spartan070
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:| Microsofts' first attempt at a console built the fanbase that is now supporting the current leader this gen. Attempt at owning Halo DENIED
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#87 kcpp2b
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yeah halo wasn't that great..thats why it did so badly in the reviews and didnt win any awards..oh wait...

my question is why do alot of cows see the xbox as a failure..since when did a console need to sell 100 million plus consoles to be called successful? the xbox sold millions of consoles not only after the ps2 released,but without already having a fanbase..calling that a faillure is just BS
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Fanboys hate competition so they will call xbox a failure and everything a failure really. Especially now with the PS3 doing bad you will see Cows bashing the xbox and ofcourse Halo cause they seem to hate that they can't have Halo on their console so much for some reason. Lucky for me I had a PS2 and Xbox so I didn't care I played Halo and MGS3 :)

Not if only MGS4 could come to the 360 I don't have to get a PS3 for god knows how long 

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#88 solidte
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Not as a gaming system but in sales yeah it failed fairly miserably in the three or four years it was out.
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#89 Spartan070
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[QUOTE="DanBal76"]

[QUOTE="sulimanhustler"]Yes, if Halo was so good why did it not change the way of the xbox and make it a better console than the ps2. Why didn't it increase sales? Maybe it wasn't that great.Boostinsane

Strange, for me Xbox IS a better console than PS2.

don't let your bias fool you. PS2 is better than the Xbox and there is an overwhalming amount of things that proves this that I won't bother going over. Halo was really the only good game that came out of the dump that was the xbox and help build a fondation for the powerhouse that is the XBOX 360 today. The Xbox was really just doing it's best to stand on it's own feet, and now that it's learn to walk, watch it run.

Opinions > lots of games
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[QUOTE="Boostinsane"][QUOTE="DanBal76"]

[QUOTE="sulimanhustler"]Yes, if Halo was so good why did it not change the way of the xbox and make it a better console than the ps2. Why didn't it increase sales? Maybe it wasn't that great.Spartan070

Strange, for me Xbox IS a better console than PS2.

don't let your bias fool you. PS2 is better than the Xbox and there is an overwhalming amount of things that proves this that I won't bother going over. Halo was really the only good game that came out of the dump that was the xbox and help build a fondation for the powerhouse that is the XBOX 360 today. The Xbox was really just doing it's best to stand on it's own feet, and now that it's learn to walk, watch it run.

Opinions > lots of games

 

LOL

I mean KOTOR and Halo alone are enough reasons to own an xbox back then. KOTOR is one of the best games of all time IMO and easily in the top 3 for best storyline of all time in gaming history IMO 

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#91 Halo552
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The only system that was even close to a failure was the gamecube and that's just because of that hudge drought of games for a while
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#92 Spartan070
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So in closing the TC has been owned. TTCHBO, lol....
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#93 DSgamer64
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yeah halo wasn't that great..thats why it did so badly in the reviews and didnt win any awards..oh wait...

my question is why do alot of cows see the xbox as a failure..since when did a console  need to sell 100 million plus consoles to be called successful? the xbox sold millions of consoles not only after the ps2 released,but without already having a fanbase..calling that a faillure is just BS
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Strange since lemmings and cows seemed to think the GameCube failed as well cause it sold the same amount of consoles as the Xbox. I dunno about you folks but the GC had a far better lineup of games then the Xbox, there were some great games on it but not as many as the Cube. Both consoles had their fair share of great games, the Xbox had Ninja Gaiden, MechAssault and Halo: CE while the Cube had great titles like Paper Mario, Baiten Kaitos, Tales of Symphonia, Mario Kart, F-Zero GX, Star Fox Adventures and the Metroid Prime games, I think earlier on the GC had a more consistant run of good games and started losing support by the 4th year whereas the Xbox started picking up after its second year with more titles and had some better games after the GC started to die.

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#94 Puckhog04
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]yeah halo wasn't that great..thats why it did so badly in the reviews and didnt win any awards..oh wait...

my question is why do alot of cows see the xbox as a failure..since when did a console  need to sell 100 million plus consoles to be called successful? the xbox sold millions of consoles not only after the ps2 released,but without already having a fanbase..calling that a faillure is just BS
DSgamer64

Strange since lemmings and cows seemed to think the GameCube failed as well cause it sold the same amount of consoles as the Xbox. I dunno about you folks but the GC had a far better lineup of games then the Xbox, there were some great games on it but not as many as the Cube. Both consoles had their fair share of great games, the Xbox had Ninja Gaiden, MechAssault and Halo: CE while the Cube had great titles like Paper Mario, Baiten Kaitos, Tales of Symphonia, Mario Kart, F-Zero GX, Star Fox Adventures and the Metroid Prime games, I think earlier on the GC had a more consistant run of good games and started losing support by the 4th year whereas the Xbox started picking up after its second year with more titles and had some better games after the GC started to die.

The Gamecube actually sold a few million less than the Xbox, this is a known fact. The GC didn't "fail", it wasn't discontinued (until the Wii came out). It did fail to outsell the newcomer MS though.

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#95 LEGEND_C4A
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Yes, if Halo was so good why did it not change the way of the xbox and make it a better console than the ps2. Why didn't it increase sales? Maybe it wasn't that great.sulimanhustler

what i want to know is why are you still crying about a last generation game?

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#96 Dr_Corndog
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20,000,000+ consoles sold argues that the XBox didn't fail.
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#97 samusarmada
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This is the worst argument ive ever heard.
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#98 amourkiss
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[QUOTE="sulimanhustler"]Yes, if Halo was so good why did it not change the way of the xbox and make it a better console than the ps2. Why didn't it increase sales? Maybe it wasn't that great.justforlotr2004


Since when did Xbox fail?  If it failed then why is there a second Xbox?

One game isnt going to cause everyone to switch from PS2 to Xbox, but it did help set the system in stone that it was here to stay.

because MS have unlimited financial power