If Hardcore gaming dies don't blame Nintendo.

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#1 loco145
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Blame Sony, for pricing their system too high so they could win a Movie format race. And M$, for making the shoddiest hardware ever.
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#2 Sonick54
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Blame video games.
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#3 Tnasty11
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yes blame nintendo WHY? casual games
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yes blame nintendo WHY? casual gamesTnasty11

I have one question for you:

Would you consider Halo a hardcore game?

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#5 Sonick54
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yes blame nintendo WHY? casual gamesTnasty11

So, you don't want everyone playing video games?

I confirm and understand hardcores are selfish

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Hardcore gaming will never die. Every generation of gamers will have their own definition of hardcore gaming.

If we go to what people considered hardcore gaming before, that's pretty much dead by now.

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#7 Tnasty11
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1)halo is a hardcore game

2) nintendo should have went half casual and half hardcore

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#8 Sonick54
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1)halo is a hardcore game

2) nintendo should have went half casual and half hardcore

Tnasty11

But halo is mostly bought by casuals

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Hardcore gaming will never die. Every generation of gamers will have their own definition of hardcore gaming.

If we go to what people considered hardcore gaming before, that's pretty much dead by now.

Panzer_Zwei

Yeah I remember people bemoaning the death of text adventures and how dumbed down games were getting. Kids now a days wouldn't know hardcore if it bit them in the ass.

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1)halo is a hardcore game

2) nintendo should have went half casual and half hardcore

Tnasty11

Follow-up question:

If Halo is such a "hardcore" game, why does it have a dominate "casual" following?

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#11 Magical_Guy
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Halo is for Casuals
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You're right, we need to BLAME CANADA!

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#13 slothboyadvance
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[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

Hardcore gaming will never die. Every generation of gamers will have their own definition of hardcore gaming.

If we go to what people considered hardcore gaming before, that's pretty much dead by now.

JiveT

Yeah I remember people bemoaning the death of text adventures and how dumbed down games were getting. Kids now a days wouldn't know hardcore if it bit them in the ass.

I recall the NES/SNES days...

Good times, tough yet fun games, no fanboys, just gamers.

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#14 Truth_Hurts_U
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I wont blame Nintendo... But I will go back to PC gaming. Where the hard core can live.

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[QUOTE="JiveT"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

Hardcore gaming will never die. Every generation of gamers will have their own definition of hardcore gaming.

If we go to what people considered hardcore gaming before, that's pretty much dead by now.

slothboyadvance

Yeah I remember people bemoaning the death of text adventures and how dumbed down games were getting. Kids now a days wouldn't know hardcore if it bit them in the ass.

I recall the NES/SNES days...

Good times, tough yet fun games, no fanboys, just gamers.

You must have been raised in some hippy commune because there were system wars between Colecovision and Atari Kids by the time NES/SNES were out there was a blood feud between the Nintendo Geeksand Sega Freaks. Even with Nintendomination in the NES era us brave Sega freaks boldly stood up and said PHANTASY STAR IZ OWNAGE and there wasn't a dang thing anyone could say or do about it! I think it was me and one other kid.

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Lol hardcore gaming will NEVER die, the PC will ensure this.
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[QUOTE="slothboyadvance"][QUOTE="JiveT"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

Hardcore gaming will never die. Every generation of gamers will have their own definition of hardcore gaming.

If we go to what people considered hardcore gaming before, that's pretty much dead by now.

JiveT

Yeah I remember people bemoaning the death of text adventures and how dumbed down games were getting. Kids now a days wouldn't know hardcore if it bit them in the ass.

I recall the NES/SNES days...

Good times, tough yet fun games, no fanboys, just gamers.

You must have been raised in some hippy commune because there were system wars between Colecovision and Atari Kids by the time NES/SNES were out there was a blood feud between the Nintendo Geeksand Sega Freaks. Even with Nintendomination in the NES era us brave Sega freaks boldly stood up and said PHANTASY STAR IZ OWNAGE and there wasn't a dang thing anyone could say or do about it! I think it was me and one other kid.

I had friends that just played games. I had a SNES and I didn't know of any Genesis owners that would tell me the SNES sucked because when we played games we didn't care who made them, just as long as we liked them.

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1)halo is a hardcore game

2) nintendo should have went half casual and half hardcore

Tnasty11


I hope you're kidding. Halo is definately NOT a "hardcore" game by any means. It, along with GTA, are some of the more influential casual-bought games.

Sadly, the definition of "hardcore" pretty much went down the drain in the last 5 years.
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#19 Verge_6
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Hardcore gaming will never die. Every generation of gamers will have their own definition of hardcore gaming.

If we go to what people considered hardcore gaming before, that's pretty much dead by now.

Panzer_Zwei

Exactly. I bet there were ATARI' fanboys' who thought that hardcore gaming died as soon as the NES came out.

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Speaking of Retro System Wars, what were things like in the Apple II-vs.-IBM PC-vs.-C64-vs.-Spectrum-vs.-Atari 400/800-vs.-MSX-vs.-Amiga-vs.-Atari ST-vs.-Mac-vs.-FM-TOWNS days? I always wanted to know what the early home computer wars were like...all I know is that it must have sucked to even think of using an IBM PC clone for gaming until the late-1980s-to-early-1990s timeframe, when VGA and SoundBlaster cards rolled around to make things competitive with the Amiga powerhouse.
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[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

Hardcore gaming will never die. Every generation of gamers will have their own definition of hardcore gaming.

If we go to what people considered hardcore gaming before, that's pretty much dead by now.

JiveT

Yeah I remember people bemoaning the death of text adventures and how dumbed down games were getting. Kids now a days wouldn't know hardcore if it bit them in the ass.

Exactly!! People nowadays think harcore gaming is all about playing M rated games, and games with gore and graphics. WRONG!!!

Its not the kind of games u play but the time and effort u put in. Playing Halo a few hours a week isnt hardcore, tryin to get the high score in PAC MAN, is hardcore

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#22 SA--X
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"If Hardcore gaming dies don't blame Nintendo."

If that were to happen, I would be a bit more busy wondering why then playing the blame game. Seriously, hardcore gaming will ALWAYS be there.

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[QUOTE="Tnasty11"]

1)halo is a hardcore game

2) nintendo should have went half casual and half hardcore

slothboyadvance

Follow-up question:

If Halo is such a "hardcore" game, why does it have a dominate "casual" following?

Because its such a good game everyone wants it, its also a very approachable game to play. Good controls, no hassle, awesome gameplay, exciting story that draws you in, lots of fun, also adds a lot of challenge for serious players on higher difficulty (especially online).

Unless you just don't like sci-fi FPS's.

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[QUOTE="slothboyadvance"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"]

1)halo is a hardcore game

2) nintendo should have went half casual and half hardcore

tomarlyn

Follow-up question:

If Halo is such a "hardcore" game, why does it have a dominate "casual" following?

Because its such a good game everyone wants it, its also a very approachable game to play. Good controls, no hassle, awesome gameplay, exciting story that draws you in, lots of fun, also adds a lot of challenge for serious players on higher difficulty (especially online).

Unless you just don't like sci-fi FPS's.

Just like Smash Bros!!!
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#25 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="slothboyadvance"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"]

1)halo is a hardcore game

2) nintendo should have went half casual and half hardcore

SA--X

Follow-up question:

If Halo is such a "hardcore" game, why does it have a dominate "casual" following?

Because its such a good game everyone wants it, its also a very approachable game to play. Good controls, no hassle, awesome gameplay, exciting story that draws you in, lots of fun, also adds a lot of challenge for serious players on higher difficulty (especially online).

Unless you just don't like sci-fi FPS's.

Just like Smash Bros!!!

As long as you like fighters yeah.

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[QUOTE="slothboyadvance"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"]

1)halo is a hardcore game

2) nintendo should have went half casual and half hardcore

tomarlyn

Follow-up question:

If Halo is such a "hardcore" game, why does it have a dominate "casual" following?

Because its such a good game everyone wants it, its also a very approachable game to play. Good controls, no hassle, awesome gameplay, exciting story that draws you in, lots of fun, also adds a lot of challenge for serious players on higher difficulty (especially online).

Unless you just don't like sci-fi FPS's.

Now we get to the point. There is no such thing as a "hardcore" game or a "casual" game. There are only "hardcore" gamers and "casual" gamers. There is very little difference between the two, both "hardcore" and "casual" gamers enjoy games like Halo and Gears. The key difference is that "casual" gamers don't studu the industry or post on forums, they just play games.
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[QUOTE="Tnasty11"]yes blame nintendo WHY? casual gamesSonick54

So, you don't want everyone playing video games?

I confirm and understand hardcores are selfish

Haha hell no I don't want everyone playing games if it means all the games are dumbed down casual junk. I don't mind if there are games that appeal to everyone, but Nintendo completely abandoned hardcore gaming a long time ago.... their entire aim is all casual appeal now. And even hardcore sheep are screwed by this. Nintendo has prettymuch said there will be no more traditional Zelda games and that they'll focus on small games. Say good bye to your favorite franchises for the sake of a higher profit margin sheep.

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#28 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="slothboyadvance"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"]

1)halo is a hardcore game

2) nintendo should have went half casual and half hardcore

slothboyadvance

Follow-up question:

If Halo is such a "hardcore" game, why does it have a dominate "casual" following?

Because its such a good game everyone wants it, its also a very approachable game to play. Good controls, no hassle, awesome gameplay, exciting story that draws you in, lots of fun, also adds a lot of challenge for serious players on higher difficulty (especially online).

Unless you just don't like sci-fi FPS's.

Now we get to the point. There is no such thing as a "hardcore" game or a "casual" game. There are only "hardcore" gamers and "casual" gamers. There is very little difference between the two, both "hardcore" and "casual" gamers enjoy games like Halo and Gears. The key difference is that "casual" gamers don't studu the industry or post on forums, they just play games.

You can't base that on two games that are designed for both crowds. A casual gamer would be scared off by the likes of STALKER or Neverwinter Nights, just as a hardcore gamer gets bored quickly with Warioware or Elebits.

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#29 slothboyadvance
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[QUOTE="slothboyadvance"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="slothboyadvance"][QUOTE="Tnasty11"]

1)halo is a hardcore game

2) nintendo should have went half casual and half hardcore

tomarlyn

Follow-up question:

If Halo is such a "hardcore" game, why does it have a dominate "casual" following?

Because its such a good game everyone wants it, its also a very approachable game to play. Good controls, no hassle, awesome gameplay, exciting story that draws you in, lots of fun, also adds a lot of challenge for serious players on higher difficulty (especially online).

Unless you just don't like sci-fi FPS's.

Now we get to the point. There is no such thing as a "hardcore" game or a "casual" game. There are only "hardcore" gamers and "casual" gamers. There is very little difference between the two, both "hardcore" and "casual" gamers enjoy games like Halo and Gears. The key difference is that "casual" gamers don't studu the industry or post on forums, they just play games.

You can't base that on two games that are designed for both crowds. A casual gamer would be scared off by the likes of STALKER or Neverwinter Nights, just as a hardcore gamer gets bored quickly with Warioware or Elebits.

You make a good point. But as I see it, games are just games. I wish others would see it like that...
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#30 tomarlyn
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You make a good point. But as I see it, games are just games. I wish others would see it like that...slothboyadvance

A good game is a good game.

I mean I personally do have a frame of reference for ''casual'' and ''hardcore'' games (even Nintendo does), but I'm not arrogant enough to segregate gamers out of spite for their individual tastes like some. Just as long as there is balance within the force.