Of course it's not - how contradictory can you get? Acting like PC gaming doesn't exist or is so prohibitive that it can simply be excluded from consideration as a platform a game is available on is absolutely ridiculous. It smacks of simple minded myopia. However overemphasizing exclusives is something that's gotten absurd as well. So what if the game goes to another platform, you can still enjoy it on the one of your choice if it's there, right? Then again applying such logic is apparently inappropriate for some on this forum.
If its on PC/360 is it exclusive?
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]2 questions for the fanboys who are saying there is a term called console exclusive for PC and 360 shared/multiplat games.
1- Why don't PC fanboys list their shared games as exclusives?
Enosh88
beacose the PC got plenty of exclusives going back more than 10 year they can throw around in any debate about ps3 vs pc or wii vs pc. On the other hand, most of the "big" 360 games are also on the PC (GeoW, ME, Fable, Halo 1 and 2) or comming to the PC (Fable 2, maybe Halo 3, there have been some romours about it), which makes the 360 fanboys unhappy since they can't present them as exclusives and gives ps3 fanboys a reason to trash talk about the 360, beacose they don't get it that they still can't play GoeW if they only have a ps3. but it's funny that ps3 fanboys trash talk about the PC too, but when it comes to games like GeoW they suddenly all have a high end gaming PCs
so it's the foult of both fanboys, PC users just laugh at the whole thing and occasionaly put some more gas on the flame, just to keep the fun going on :D
The amount of games that the 360 loses to the PC is one of the biggest myths in SW. In your own list, you name Halo 1 & 2 as well as Fable as 360 exclusives lost to the PC... uh, last I checked, all 3 were games from last gen, NOT the 360.No one with any sense has ever argued that PC gaming doesn't exist or is "so prohibitive." The point has never been that some CAN'T game on the PC, it is that they simply DON'T. Some people, many in fact, are just consolites, that's their preference. For those people, some of whom have the PS3 while others go the 360 route, the PC can in my opinion be effectively ignored in library comparisons.... not because it doesn't exist, but rather because it is a non-factor in the actual lives and gaming habits of those involved in a hypothetical discussion. To ignore that the PC exists is myopia, as you say. But to ignore that some people CAN, but DON'T game on the pc is equally myopic. Hermits cry that calling a game "console exclusive" is to ignore the existence of the PC... but they fail to realize that trying to "ban" the phrase is effectively the same thing: trying to ignore the existence of consolites.Of course it's not - how contradictory can you get? Acting like PC gaming doesn't exist or is so prohibitive that it can simply be excluded from consideration as a platform a game is available on is absolutely ridiculous. It smacks of simple minded myopia. However overemphasizing exclusives is something that's gotten absurd as well. So what if the game goes to another platform, you can still enjoy it on the one of your choice if it's there, right? Then again applying such logic is apparently inappropriate for some on this forum.
Alpha_S_
Of course it's not - how contradictory can you get? Acting like PC gaming doesn't exist or is so prohibitive that it can simply be excluded from consideration as a platform a game is available on is absolutely ridiculous. It smacks of simple minded myopia. However overemphasizing exclusives is something that's gotten absurd as well. So what if the game goes to another platform, you can still enjoy it on the one of your choice if it's there, right? Then again applying such logic is apparently inappropriate for some on this forum.
No one with any sense has ever argued that PC gaming doesn't exist or is "so prohibitive." The point has never been that some CAN'T game on the PC, it is that they simply DON'T. Some people, many in fact, are just consolites, that's their preference. For those people, some of whom have the PS3 while others go the 360 route, the PC can in my opinion be effectively ignored in library comparisons.... not because it doesn't exist, but rather because it is a non-factor in the actual lives and gaming habits of those involved in a hypothetical discussion. To ignore that the PC exists is myopia, as you say. But to ignore that some people CAN, but DON'T game on the pc is equally myopic. Hermits cry that calling a game "console exclusive" is to ignore the existence of the PC... but they fail to realize that trying to "ban" the phrase is effectively the same thing: trying to ignore the existence of consolites.Well said.
You can argue the relevance of PC gaming in today's highly marketed gaming world and the term console exclusive all you want. Me, I prefer to call those games by another term...
Not on Playstation.
No one with any sense has ever argued that PC gaming doesn't exist or is "so prohibitive." The point has never been that some CAN'T game on the PC, it is that they simply DON'T. Some people, many in fact, are just consolites, that's their preference. For those people, some of whom have the PS3 while others go the 360 route, the PC can in my opinion be effectively ignored in library comparisons.... not because it doesn't exist, but rather because it is a non-factor in the actual lives and gaming habits of those involved in a hypothetical discussion. To ignore that the PC exists is myopia, as you say. But to ignore that some people CAN, but DON'T game on the pc is equally myopic. Hermits cry that calling a game "console exclusive" is to ignore the existence of the PC... but they fail to realize that trying to "ban" the phrase is effectively the same thing: trying to ignore the existence of consolites.dsmccracken
I don't think I ever said anything about ignoriing people who have a preference for consoles over PC. But it can work both ways in that it's also possible to ignore those with a preference of PC games over console. Just because you prefer to play the game on the platform of your choice does not mean you should suddenly discount that the game exists on other platforms. If I don't care much to play a particular console because I prefer to play another one does that mean I can effectively ignore that library becuase it doesn't really effect my hypothetical "actual life and gaming habits"? How does that make sense? One can be a primarily 360 or PS3 gamer and not really play the other, just as someone can be a primary PC gamer (though perhaps not to the same extent, though with some people I wouldn't be surprised). So where's the magical difference that allows one to "ignore PC for library comparisons" that I'm missing?
And again as someone playing the games...I don't care if someone on another platform can play a game so long as I can play it I'm fine. That's falsity behind the overemphasize on exclusives to begin with that makes such debate frivolous... If a game a like gets ported to another platform then good, more people can play it. If not oh well...I can still get my own enjoyment out of it.
[QUOTE="dsmccracken"]No one with any sense has ever argued that PC gaming doesn't exist or is "so prohibitive." The point has never been that some CAN'T game on the PC, it is that they simply DON'T. Some people, many in fact, are just consolites, that's their preference. For those people, some of whom have the PS3 while others go the 360 route, the PC can in my opinion be effectively ignored in library comparisons.... not because it doesn't exist, but rather because it is a non-factor in the actual lives and gaming habits of those involved in a hypothetical discussion. To ignore that the PC exists is myopia, as you say. But to ignore that some people CAN, but DON'T game on the pc is equally myopic. Hermits cry that calling a game "console exclusive" is to ignore the existence of the PC... but they fail to realize that trying to "ban" the phrase is effectively the same thing: trying to ignore the existence of consolites.Alpha_S_
I don't think I ever said anything about ignoriing people who have a preference for consoles over PC. But it can work both ways in that it's also possible to ignore those with a preference of PC games over console. Just because you prefer to play the game on the platform of your choice does not mean you should suddenly discount that the game exists on other platforms. If I don't care much to play a particular console because I prefer to play another one does that mean I can effectively ignore that library becuase it doesn't really effect my hypothetical "actual life and gaming habits"? How does that make sense? One can be a primarily 360 or PS3 gamer and not really play the other, just as someone can be a primary PC gamer (though perhaps not to the same extent, though with some people I wouldn't be surprised). So where's the magical difference that allows one to "ignore PC for library comparisons" that I'm missing?
And again as someone playing the games...I don't care if someone on another platform can play a game so long as I can play it I'm fine. That's falsity behind the overemphasize on exclusives to begin with that makes such debate frivolous... If a game a like gets ported to another platform then good, more people can play it. If not oh well...I can still get my own enjoyment out of it.
I think the "magical difference" depends on the "combatants" in any given discussion. Though the old warning of "this is System Wars, not Console Wars" is all well and good, I think that we all know that in many threads, there is not a real Benneton rainbow of Cows, Lemmings, Sheep and Hermits engaged in every discussion. Even more so, by their very nature many if not most threads are not all inclusive. I mean, if a Cow calls out lemmings and a thread goes 10+ pages of pure Cow on Lemming warfare, then a Hermit wades into the fray and chimes in with reminders of the validity of the PC and definitions of exclusivity... well, that Hermit would be 100% correct, yet would be missing the point of that particular discussion.Why is it being said most people dont know of PC gaming or know nothing about it? That statement is wrong. It's more of some know of it but have their reasons of not playing on that platform. To say that most that play on consoles are ignorant of the PC platform is totally wrong. PC gaming is more of a hobbie and takes some knowledge and money to enjoy it as it's meant to be enjoyed! Why can't peeps just get the fact that not all prefer the PC platform??
Why is it being said most people dont know of PC gaming or know nothing about it? That statement is wrong. It's more of some know of it but have their reasons of not playing on that platform. To say that most that play on consoles are ignorant of the PC platform is totally wrong. PC gaming is more of a hobbie and takes some knowledge and money to enjoy it as it's meant to be enjoyed! Why can't peeps just get the fact that not all prefer the PC platform??
jasonheyman
Because then what would you call games that exclude another system? And Steam has 16 million usrs. That's in the area of PS3 owners.
Yes it is... to Microsoft :P.
Honnestly I don't care if a game is also on the PC, I still call it exclusive.
A person can play all most any PC game with a Linux OP....The only games so far a Linux system can not get around are DirectX 10 games I am sure just like they got around DirectX 9 they will find a way around 10[QUOTE="jasonheyman"]Why is it being said most people dont know of PC gaming or know nothing about it? That statement is wrong. It's more of some know of it but have their reasons of not playing on that platform. To say that most that play on consoles are ignorant of the PC platform is totally wrong. PC gaming is more of a hobbie and takes some knowledge and money to enjoy it as it's meant to be enjoyed! Why can't peeps just get the fact that not all prefer the PC platform??
Blackbond
Because then what would you call games that exclude another system? And Steam has 16 million usrs. That's in the area of PS3 owners.
Because when I myself speak of "gaming" I mean "hardcore gamers" That spend most of their past time gaming and are up to date with the latest games ect... It doesn't take a high end rig to play MMO's so thats why that fanbase is so high. A game like that just needs enough memory to install the game. But the "hardcore gamers" the ones that play Crysis on high and all their multiplat games on high, those people are in the minority because it takes more money and time into a rig to keep it up to specs smooth frame rate ect. I never denied PC has their own fanbase! But when I speak of gaming I talk of hardcore gaming.
Like the argument of more PC's than consoles is a weak one. It has to be gaming rigs, bought and built to play video games like their counter part (consoles)...
[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="jasonheyman"]Why is it being said most people dont know of PC gaming or know nothing about it? That statement is wrong. It's more of some know of it but have their reasons of not playing on that platform. To say that most that play on consoles are ignorant of the PC platform is totally wrong. PC gaming is more of a hobbie and takes some knowledge and money to enjoy it as it's meant to be enjoyed! Why can't peeps just get the fact that not all prefer the PC platform??
jasonheyman
Because then what would you call games that exclude another system? And Steam has 16 million usrs. That's in the area of PS3 owners.
Because when I myself speak of "gaming" I mean "hardcore gamers" That spend most of their past time gaming and are up to date with the latest games ect... It doesn't take a high end rig to play MMO's so thats why that fanbase is so high. A game like that just needs enough memory to install the game. But the "hardcore gamers" the ones that play Crysis on high and all their multiplat games on high, those people are in the minority because it takes more money and time into a rig to keep it up to specs smooth frame rate ect. I never denied PC has their own fanbase! But when I speak of gaming I talk of hardcore gaming.
Like the argument of more PC's than consoles is a weak one. It has to be gaming rigs, bought and built to play video games like their counter part (consoles)...
ANd then like I said the user base of steam is 16 million. Couple that with WoW and then add it an estimate of hardcore PC gamers that don't play WoW or use Steam. There are plenty of hardcore PC gamers out there. Probably more the PS3 right now as anyone who plays WoW paying money to play a game monthly is pretty damn hardcore if you ask me.
If it is on one system it is exclusive. If it is on more than one system, it is not, unless the two versions are different from each other, such as GRAW 360 and GRAW PC. nintendofreak_2
Sounds good to me.
If it is on one system it is exclusive. If it is on more than one system, it is not, unless the two versions are different from each other, such as GRAW 360 and GRAW PC. nintendofreak_2
Sounds good to me.
] The amount of games that the 360 loses to the PC is one of the biggest myths in SW.dsmccrackenNah. Number-wise there aren't that many exclusives 360 looses to PC (or to PS3), but that;s mostly because 360 hardly has any exclusives to begin with. So essentialy a loss of even one is always hurtful, it might be just one game, but it's a big deal when loosing that one game means reducing numbers of exclusives by like 10% :)
Because they are avaible only on PC and 360. But they are "360/PC exclusive", not "exclusive" or "360 exclusive". So you can name L4D when people ask for "360/PC exclusives", but not when people ask you to name 360 exclusives. I think it's simple, isn't it?What is the reason behide this baffling question, Why are games announced 360/PC exclusive I just can't put my finger on it.
paul265
[QUOTE="Alpha_S_"][QUOTE="dsmccracken"]No one with any sense has ever argued that PC gaming doesn't exist or is "so prohibitive." The point has never been that some CAN'T game on the PC, it is that they simply DON'T. Some people, many in fact, are just consolites, that's their preference. For those people, some of whom have the PS3 while others go the 360 route, the PC can in my opinion be effectively ignored in library comparisons.... not because it doesn't exist, but rather because it is a non-factor in the actual lives and gaming habits of those involved in a hypothetical discussion. To ignore that the PC exists is myopia, as you say. But to ignore that some people CAN, but DON'T game on the pc is equally myopic. Hermits cry that calling a game "console exclusive" is to ignore the existence of the PC... but they fail to realize that trying to "ban" the phrase is effectively the same thing: trying to ignore the existence of consolites.dsmccracken
I don't think I ever said anything about ignoriing people who have a preference for consoles over PC. But it can work both ways in that it's also possible to ignore those with a preference of PC games over console. Just because you prefer to play the game on the platform of your choice does not mean you should suddenly discount that the game exists on other platforms. If I don't care much to play a particular console because I prefer to play another one does that mean I can effectively ignore that library becuase it doesn't really effect my hypothetical "actual life and gaming habits"? How does that make sense? One can be a primarily 360 or PS3 gamer and not really play the other, just as someone can be a primary PC gamer (though perhaps not to the same extent, though with some people I wouldn't be surprised). So where's the magical difference that allows one to "ignore PC for library comparisons" that I'm missing?
And again as someone playing the games...I don't care if someone on another platform can play a game so long as I can play it I'm fine. That's falsity behind the overemphasize on exclusives to begin with that makes such debate frivolous... If a game a like gets ported to another platform then good, more people can play it. If not oh well...I can still get my own enjoyment out of it.
I think the "magical difference" depends on the "combatants" in any given discussion. Though the old warning of "this is System Wars, not Console Wars" is all well and good, I think that we all know that in many threads, there is not a real Benneton rainbow of Cows, Lemmings, Sheep and Hermits engaged in every discussion. Even more so, by their very nature many if not most threads are not all inclusive. I mean, if a Cow calls out lemmings and a thread goes 10+ pages of pure Cow on Lemming warfare, then a Hermit wades into the fray and chimes in with reminders of the validity of the PC and definitions of exclusivity... well, that Hermit would be 100% correct, yet would be missing the point of that particular discussion.But the argument usualy goes by with a cow having a PC and saying he doesn't need a X360 to play some if it's gaming librarie. It's not really a hermit who intervines in the middle of no man's PC land.
The amount of games that the 360 loses to the PC is one of the biggest myths in SW. In your own list, you name Halo 1 & 2 as well as Fable as 360 exclusives lost to the PC... uh, last I checked, all 3 were games from last gen, NOT the 360.dsmccracken
yeah noticed it now
note to self: don't write stuff after 2am
Some observations;
1. Regardless of previous mod comments (well, just the one) you will NOT get moderated for making a thread comparing just the Xbox 360 against the PS3 and that includes using games that are also on the PC as a plus point for either machine. As far as I know this is not against the TOC. The PS3 vs 360 'war' is probably the most talked about competition across the internet and corresponds to a very large real world demographic (i.e those that simply don't want to game on the PC and want a HD console) Do you seriously think GS would deny the biggest topic of conversation? Until GS start moderating 360 vs PS3 threads this proves they are happy with people describing console exlusives (or whatever phrase you choose to use)
2. Most people will argue over the actual semantics of these 'console exclusives' but at the end of the day what they are called is really quite irrelvant. The bickering over the word exclusive is more a front for those with alternate agendas. If you think about it, the term console exclusive is used purely in a console vs console discussion so why would a PC gamer object? It doesn't detract from the PC in any way. I think personally PC gamers do not like the fact that all anyone ever talks about is 360 vs PS3, it makes PC gaming seem more of a niche and that is obviously threatening. The fact that some people just will not game on the PC is something I think most hermits cannot accept.
PS3 owners quite obviously don't want to give any credit to games like L4D or Mass Effect, hiding behind the bickering over the word 'exclusive' is the perfect front to deny a portion of the 360's library.
[QUOTE="speedsix"] the term console exclusive is used purely in a console vs console discussion so why would a PC gamer object? Hewkiiwhy use it at all, though? anytime the Wii is bashed for not having games the term "console exclusive" is never used.
You know what I find pretty funny. People say X360/PC games are exclusive because not everyone can play them. The funny thing is that we are on Gamespot. I can guarantee you that 90%+ (no I dont need a link ) of the people on this website are using a PC right now as we speak with the smaller 10% using their PS3/Wii/PSP or what ever other gadget. It stands to reason that everyone or almost everyone on this board has access to a PC. By having access to a PC, they can play PC games. Sure not everyone has a gaming rig, but the majority could turn their PC into a gaming rig if they wanted to. If you buy an X360/PS3/Wii and lose your controller or your AV cables, does that mean you no longer own a console? No. It just means you have to replace it and
you can play your games. Same thing with PC graphics cards and RAM and so on. "But not everyone has a PC that can play Left4Dead and not everyone can afford to upgrade theirs so its an exclusive for X360!" Really? So since not everyone is paying for XBL and not everyone buys DLC, all DLC is no longer exclusive? Braid is not an X360 exclusive...right? I mean not everyone has access to it....
[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="speedsix"] the term console exclusive is used purely in a console vs console discussion so why would a PC gamer object? II_Seraphim_IIwhy use it at all, though? anytime the Wii is bashed for not having games the term "console exclusive" is never used. You know what I find pretty funny. People say X360/PC games are exclusive because not everyone can play them. The funny thing is that we are on Gamespot. I can guarantee you that 90%+ (no I dont need a link ) of the people on this website are using a PC right now as we speak with the smaller 10% using their PS3/Wii/PSP or what ever other gadget. It stands to reason that everyone or almost everyone on this board has access to a PC. By having access to a PC, they can play PC games. Sure not everyone has a gaming rig, but the majority could turn their PC into a gaming rig if they wanted to. If you buy an X360/PS3/Wii and lose your controller or your AV cables, does that mean you no longer own a console? No. It just means you have to replace it and you can play your games. Same thing with PC graphics cards and RAM and so on. "But not everyone has a PC that can play Left4Dead and not everyone can afford to upgrade theirs so its an exclusive for X360!" Really? So since not everyone is paying for XBL and not everyone buys DLC, all DLC is no longer exclusive? Braid is a multiplat...right? I mean not everyone has access to it....
Utter, UTTER nonsense. I think you'll find the amount of console owners who also have gaming PCs and are willing to game on a pc is very small.
Fyi I'm typing this on a Linux laptop.
why use it at all, though? anytime the Wii is bashed for not having games the term "console exclusive" is never used.[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="speedsix"] the term console exclusive is used purely in a console vs console discussion so why would a PC gamer object? II_Seraphim_II
You know what I find pretty funny. People say X360/PC games are exclusive because not everyone can play them. The funny thing is that we are on Gamespot. I can guarantee you that 90%+ (no I dont need a link ) of the people on this website are using a PC right now as we speak with the smaller 10% using their PS3/Wii/PSP or what ever other gadget. It stands to reason that everyone or almost everyone on this board has access to a PC. By having access to a PC, they can play PC games. Sure not everyone has a gaming rig, but the majority could turn their PC into a gaming rig if they wanted to. If you buy an X360/PS3/Wii and lose your controller or your AV cables, does that mean you no longer own a console? No. It just means you have to replace it and
you can play your games. Same thing with PC graphics cards and RAM and so on. "But not everyone has a PC that can play Left4Dead and not everyone can afford to upgrade theirs so its an exclusive for X360!" Really? So since not everyone is paying for XBL and not everyone buys DLC, all DLC is no longer exclusive? Braid is not an X360 exclusive...right? I mean not everyone has access to it....
The logic is not strong here... The point is not whether someone CAN game on their PC, the point is that many people DON'T. And if they don't for WHATEVER PERSONAL REASON, if they are consolites plain and simple, this makes a game on the PS/360 effectively beyond their reach if not technically, and thus the word console exclusive is very relevant for that group of people. The Braid example is bizarre.... did you read that back to yourself before you hit the submit button?[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]BEsides having to install games What differences does a PC have from a consoles? I mean we upgrade with new consoles after so many years for better graphics , they just manually do the work themselvesbladeeagle
PS3 installs games but that's still a console.
PC is not a console because a console is a machine designed for consumers to buy and use solely for playing video games.
A PC is not a console because you can do so much more on than consoles. Another reason is that PC isn't controlled by anyone like how the 360 is controlled by Microsoft or Sony to PS3. There is no owner of the PC so any developer can make games on it free of charge.
I just have to say that your sig made my day, hilarious!
On topic, no if its on two platforms its not exclusive.
[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="dsmccracken"] It is not a contradiction, and insisting you are accurately representing the "holistic definition" is disingenuous, since you obviously have an agenda.dsmccrackenGame console; A small machine which plays computerized video games. The PC matches this definition. With or without any extrapolation.So a cell phone is also a console. Uh... no. You can say 'uh no' all you want. As it is an extension of the most reputable source of the english language in the world, it is valid. If you want to dismiss the most reputable source, you better get published, get refferreed, and be adopted by thousands of colleges world wide. Until then, your definition means nothing.
[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Game console; A small machine which plays computerized video games. The PC matches this definition. With or without any extrapolation.VandalvideoSo a cell phone is also a console. Uh... no. You can say 'uh no' all you want. As it is an extension of the most reputable source of the english language in the world, it is valid. If you want to dismiss the most reputable source, you better get published, get refferreed, and be adopted by thousands of colleges world wide. Until then, your definition means nothing. game set and match vandal!
[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="Hewkii"] why use it at all, though? anytime the Wii is bashed for not having games the term "console exclusive" is never used.dsmccracken
You know what I find pretty funny. People say X360/PC games are exclusive because not everyone can play them. The funny thing is that we are on Gamespot. I can guarantee you that 90%+ (no I dont need a link ) of the people on this website are using a PC right now as we speak with the smaller 10% using their PS3/Wii/PSP or what ever other gadget. It stands to reason that everyone or almost everyone on this board has access to a PC. By having access to a PC, they can play PC games. Sure not everyone has a gaming rig, but the majority could turn their PC into a gaming rig if they wanted to. If you buy an X360/PS3/Wii and lose your controller or your AV cables, does that mean you no longer own a console? No. It just means you have to replace it and
you can play your games. Same thing with PC graphics cards and RAM and so on. "But not everyone has a PC that can play Left4Dead and not everyone can afford to upgrade theirs so its an exclusive for X360!" Really? So since not everyone is paying for XBL and not everyone buys DLC, all DLC is no longer exclusive? Braid is not an X360 exclusive...right? I mean not everyone has access to it....
The logic is not strong here... The point is not whether someone CAN game on their PC, the point is that many people DON'T. And if they don't for WHATEVER PERSONAL REASON, if they are consolites plain and simple, this makes a game on the PS/360 effectively beyond their reach if not technically, and thus the word console exclusive is very relevant for that group of people. The Braid example is bizarre.... did you read that back to yourself before you hit the submit button? First of all, the Braid comment was an error :P I meant to say GTA DLC isnt exclusive, but GS glitched and I had to press back and got my previous post :x As for your post, I dont understand. So you are saying that just because people chose to not play a game on PC, it should be counted as a "console exclusive"? So should GTA4 be a X360 console exclusive if someone is unwilling to buy a PS3 or play it on PC?how can it be exclusive when it is on two platforms?!?!bf2nuttaThe word "Exclusive" means its only playable on XYZ. The word "XYZ" can represent a number of platforms. So in a way, it CAN be called exclusive or at least "semi-exclusive"
[QUOTE="bf2nutta"]how can it be exclusive when it is on two platforms?!?!PandaBear86The word "Exclusive" means its only playable on XYZ. The word "XYZ" can represent a number of platforms. So in a way, it CAN be called exclusive or at least "semi-exclusive" You can't make up words like semi-exclusive its like saying semi-dead. Your either dead or your not, a game is either exclusive or its not. That is what the word exclusive means, look it up. Lemmings have been trying this one for ages because all the good games go to pc at some point.
[QUOTE="PandaBear86"][QUOTE="bf2nutta"]how can it be exclusive when it is on two platforms?!?!tenaka2The word "Exclusive" means its only playable on XYZ. The word "XYZ" can represent a number of platforms. So in a way, it CAN be called exclusive or at least "semi-exclusive" You can't make up words like semi-exclusive its like saying semi-dead. Your either dead or your not, a game is either exclusive or its not. That is what the word exclusive means, look it up. Lemmings have been trying this one for ages because all the good games go to pc at some point. Okay. Soul Calibur 4 is 100% exclusive on XYZ. What does "XYZ" represent? Can a Wii owner be included in this category? See, it all depends on what angle you are looking at it from. But yeah, nobody bothers using this method, so I agree with you. Sorry if I am confusing anybody here, but thats just my thought on it :P
Okay. Soul Calibur 4 is 100% exclusive on XYZ. What does "XYZ" represent? Can a Wii owner be included in this category? See, it all depends on what angle you are looking at it from. But yeah, nobody bothers using this method, so I agree with you. Sorry if I am confusing anybody here, but thats just my thought on it :PPandaBear86
Soul Calibur IV is on the PS3 and 360; two entirely different systems... how exactly is it "exclusive"?
Okay. Soul Calibur 4 is 100% exclusive on XYZ. What does "XYZ" represent? Can a Wii owner be included in this category? See, it all depends on what angle you are looking at it from. But yeah, nobody bothers using this method, so I agree with you. Sorry if I am confusing anybody here, but thats just my thought on it :PPandaBear86Ok you seem to be a bit mixed up. Soul Calibur cannot be exclusive if its on XYZ. Sould Calibur can only be exclusive if its on X, Y or Z. Soul Calibur cannot be exclusive if its on X and Y, Y and Z or Z and X. The word simply cannot be used this way. I assumed that X, Y and Z represented platforms but I guess in your head XYZ could have meant 2 weeks from Tuesday. Only you know really. Also Exclusive cannot be viewed as a percentage, something cannot be 5% exclusive or 100% exclusive as exclusive is an absolute. Philosolphical arguments from Enosh are of course excluded :)
Its not exclusive, but its console exclusive. If you're a console gamer you can only play it on the 360. The only other way to play it means that you aren't a console gamer, so the whole exclusivity among consoles thing is irrelevant for you.Senor_Kami... again... the word cannot be used that way. A console Exclusive would be a game thats only on one platform.
[QUOTE="Senor_Kami"]Its not exclusive, but its console exclusive. If you're a console gamer you can only play it on the 360. The only other way to play it means that you aren't a console gamer, so the whole exclusivity among consoles thing is irrelevant for you.tenaka2... again... the word cannot be used that way. A console Exclusive would be a game thats only on one platform. PCs are video game consoles? Ehh, I see what you're saying. A petty argument, but I see what you're saying.
Anyways, I guess you call it a multiplat thats only available on one console... which seems even more ludicrous than saying, "console exclusive".
I think SEGA said it best, "Genesis does what Nintendon't." 360 needs a slogan like that. Good luck on playing, Gears, Mass Effect, Halo 3, and all those other games on a PS3 or Wii.
[QUOTE="tenaka2"][QUOTE="Senor_Kami"]Its not exclusive, but its console exclusive. If you're a console gamer you can only play it on the 360. The only other way to play it means that you aren't a console gamer, so the whole exclusivity among consoles thing is irrelevant for you.Senor_Kami... again... the word cannot be used that way. A console Exclusive would be a game thats only on one platform. PCs are video game consoles? PC's are 'also' video game consoles. Its a SW rule, you can't change the meaning of the English language because all 360 exclusives go to PC. Its a rather sad attempt. Just accept it, a lot of games are now multiplatform.
[QUOTE="Senor_Kami"][QUOTE="tenaka2"] ... again... the word cannot be used that way. A console Exclusive would be a game thats only on one platform.tenaka2PCs are video game consoles? PC's are 'also' video game consoles. Its a SW rule, you can't change the meaning of the English language because all 360 exclusives go to PC. Its a rather sad attempt. Just accept it, a lot of games are now multiplatform. How come when you bring up numbers and stats that don't favor the PC, Hermits are quick to point out that PCs aren't video game consoles and shouldn't compared as such.
Its not exclusive, but its console exclusive. If you're a console gamer you can only play it on the 360. The only other way to play it means that you aren't a console gamer, so the whole exclusivity among consoles thing is irrelevant for you.Senor_Kami
I agree with you, I think it(games that are on a pc/360, pc/Wii or pc/PS3) should be consider console exclusive at least for System Wars purposes.
... again... the word cannot be used that way. A console Exclusive would be a game thats only on one platform. PCs are video game consoles? Ehh, I see what you're saying. A petty argument, but I see what you're saying.[QUOTE="tenaka2"][QUOTE="Senor_Kami"]Its not exclusive, but its console exclusive. If you're a console gamer you can only play it on the 360. The only other way to play it means that you aren't a console gamer, so the whole exclusivity among consoles thing is irrelevant for you.Senor_Kami
Anyways, I guess you call it a multiplat thats only available on one console... which seems even more ludicrous than saying, "console exclusive".
I think SEGA said it best, "Genesis does what Nintendon't." 360 needs a slogan like that. Good luck on playing, Gears, Mass Effect, Halo 3, and all those other games on a PS3 or Wii.
PC is a system/platform like every other system (PS3,360,Wii).
Ahhh PC's. The ungainly older brother of the consoles.
When it has the stamp "Xbox Exclusive" on a game though, it means its not available on its direct competitor, the PS3. PC gaming has subsided to a dullthrob in the corner of games studios.
Even so, i think it shouldnt be labelled as exclusive when it blatantly not...
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