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#1 therealmcc0y
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... considered a flop?
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#2 Cedmln
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There is no official hype for it. When there is an official hype score, then we can dicuss it.
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#3 Gamerman12362
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I doubt cows will say it, but truth is it's getting massive hype. Some are saying it'll be better than gears and even halo 3.
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#4 Eddie-Vedder
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No, that would sort of surprise me :P 7.5 and below is a flop, 8.0+ is yummy, I won't buy it unless it's a 9.5+, sick of console shooters. It may seem like KZ2 has a ton of hype but most of the time it's just people argueing grafics.
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#5 mustaf_nur89
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After the official hype begins, so we can see. I think it will surpass the 8.5 score personally.
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#6 beast667
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Its been talked about as the PS3s killer app for 3 years. Of course that would be a flop.
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#7 Gamersince81
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i said 9 so it would be a flop if it gets 8.5.
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#8 AaronHullLfc
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Below 8 is considered a flop seeing the hype it's getting now but the hype could get higher or lower, who knows?
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#9 Swift_Boss_A
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Unfortunately it is by SW standards. KZ2 has to much hype for its own good, I don't know if it will live up to.
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#10 Gamersince81
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Its been talked about as the PS3s killer app for 3 years. Of course that would be a flop.beast667

Haha, thats so stupid.. How can it be a killer app when the first wasnt good????????? R2 is the killer FPS for PS3 this November. KZ2 has much to prove this gen while R1 already got over 8 on GS!!!!!

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#11 air_wolf_cubed
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If Metroid Prime 3 is considered a flop this will be
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#12 MadExponent
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There is so much hype surrounding KZ2 I think a 9.0 would be considered good but lackluster and not worth the hype. 8.5 is a flop indefinitely. With the amount of hype around the game at least a 9.5 is expected.
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#13 johnnyblazed88
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There is no official hype for it. When there is an official hype score, then we can dicuss it.Cedmln

the hype for it is an automatic 9

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#14 LEGEND_C4A
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There is no official hype for it. When there is an official hype score, then we can dicuss it.Cedmln

oh no you don't, the hype this game is getting, the way sony fans are salivating at the mouth for this game! I don't blame them for hyping it, but none of you better come in here saying that you expect this game to get anything below a 9. way too much hype for the last few years for sony fans to start acting like its no big deal.

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#15 Truth_Hurts_U
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I would say yes. Since all you heard about for the past 3 years has been KZ2, MGS4 and FFXIII.

They can't back down from the hype now. To many Sony fanboys have risen the hype on this game lately.

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#16 LEGEND_C4A
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[QUOTE="beast667"]Its been talked about as the PS3s killer app for 3 years. Of course that would be a flop.Gamersince81

Haha, thats so stupid.. How can it be a killer app when the first wasnt good????????? R2 is the killer FPS for PS3 this November. KZ2 has much to prove this gen while R1 already got over 8 on GS!!!!!

holy cow, where have you been for the last 3 years? this game has been hyped since that first CGI video everyone saw, everyone lost their minds. too many years, money and work and hype has been put into this game for it to be an 8.5, granted thats a fantastic score, but with all the sony cell, b-ray hype, I expect nothing but the best, sony themselves said they would blow everything out of the water when the ps3 launched, 8.5's as good as that is, is not blowing anything out of the water.

understand, if this game scores anything below Halo3, MS fans will lose their minds and start sharpening their killing tools, just for PS3 fans.

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[QUOTE="beast667"]Its been talked about as the PS3s killer app for 3 years. Of course that would be a flop.Gamersince81

Haha, thats so stupid.. How can it be a killer app when the first wasnt good????????? R2 is the killer FPS for PS3 this November. KZ2 has much to prove this gen while R1 already got over 8 on GS!!!!!

Yes because we all know since the first one sucked this one will suck and yet this game has a much bigger team making it and a better budget too yes we all know its gonna flop harder then the first game :roll:

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#18 LEGEND_C4A
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There is so much hype surrounding KZ2 I think a 9.0 would be considered good but lackluster and not worth the hype. 8.5 is a flop indefinitely. With the amount of hype around the game at least a 9.5 is expected.MadExponent

people lost their minds when bioshock got a 9, imagine KZ2 not scoring higher. :(

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#19 Nike_Air
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I would be extremely happy with that score from Gamespot. Remember ..... the majority of media seem to still see Killzone as a mediocre franchise form a mediocre developer with undeserved hype so it carries a lot of baggage whether it is going to be great or not ..... and most will be looking for reasons to tear it apart just because it's Killzone , and that is just keeping it real. The standards leveled against it will be extremely high so I would think that even great scores for this game from the skeptics will be quite telling.

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#20 bigLLL
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remember a flop doesnt mean a bad game in system wars, just failed to meet the hype, games that flop can still be really great games, Like mass effect for the 360

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I would be extremely happy with that score from Gamespot. Remember ..... the majority of media seem to still see Killzone as a mediocre franchise form a mediocre developer with undeserved hype so it carries a lot of baggage whether it is going to be great or not ..... and most will be looking for reasons to tear it apart just because it's Killzone , and that is just keeping it real. The standards leveled against it will be extremely high so I would think that even great scores for this game from the skeptics will be quite telling.

Nike_Air

I don't believe this, the game is not out and you are already coming up with excuses why it might now score high? if this game rocks, the scores will say so, I refuse to think reviewers have already knocked points off this game just because the first one sucked.

I know its not the same thing but look at too human, everyone including me were hating on it, and now opinion seems to be changing.

so if the first KZ sucked, but the seconds one is fantastic, I believe the scores will show that.

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#22 Fumpa
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That game is getting so much hype these days that its rediculous. Lets not forget all the hype surrounding it when the first cgi videos of the game were released.

I say that it will be a flop if it doens't get a 9+. Same goes for LBP. It seems to me that people are passively hyping it, for lack of a better way of terming this.

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I dont believe that it is hyped AAA.
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#24 Marcus_Hale
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On GS? Yes.

In reality? No.

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#25 ninjaxams
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i'm calling 8.5 right now...
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That game is getting so much hype these days that its rediculous. Lets not forget all the hype surrounding it when the first cgi videos of the game were released.

I say that it will be a flop if it doens't get a 9+. Same goes for LBP. It seems to me that people are passively hyping it, for lack of a better way of terming this.

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I really like LBP. I think it deserves it's hype. So much fun to be had with that game. I just hope they release free content to build new levels. Or I would be upset.

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#27 LEGEND_C4A
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remember a flop doesnt mean a bad game in system wars, just failed to meet the hype, games that flop can still be really great games, Like mass effect for the 360

bigLLL

I agree. the only thing is this.

sony has been pushing technology with cell, b-ray and all that jazz. after all they hype sony has been feeding the gaming world, I think the PS3 community deserves more than 8's and 8.5's from games that take so damn long to make.

if GT5 launches in 2010? I hope they don't hand Sony fans an 8.5 game. you guys deserve better than that. I know I'm being hard on Sony, but when you promise domination, I expect domination.

more MGS games, more GTA games please. :)

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#28 heretrix
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At this point, I don't even care. People are just going to deny that they hyped it anyway.People in here have no stones whatsoever. WTF happened to this place? Nobody hypes anything anymore. (That's a lie but whatever).We might as well do away with the whole hype system as nobody is honest about these things anyway.
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#29 Fumpa
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[QUOTE="Fumpa"]

That game is getting so much hype these days that its rediculous. Lets not forget all the hype surrounding it when the first cgi videos of the game were released.

I say that it will be a flop if it doens't get a 9+. Same goes for LBP. It seems to me that people are passively hyping it, for lack of a better way of terming this.

Truth_Hurts_U

I really like LBP. I think it deserves it's hype. So much fun to be had with that game. I just hope they release free content to build new levels. Or I would be upset.

I have to agree that LBP looks like it will be incredible and I believe that it will score AAA, maybe AAAA. Yeah I'm hyping it, but the game looks cool and its really innovative.

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#30 Nike_Air
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

I would be extremely happy with that score from Gamespot. Remember ..... the majority of media seem to still see Killzone as a mediocre franchise form a mediocre developer with undeserved hype so it carries a lot of baggage whether it is going to be great or not ..... and most will be looking for reasons to tear it apart just because it's Killzone , and that is just keeping it real. The standards leveled against it will be extremely high so I would think that even great scores for this game from the skeptics will be quite telling.

LEGEND_C4A

I don't believe this, the game is not out and you are already coming up with excuses why it might now score high? if this game rocks, the scores will say so, I refuse to think reviewers have already knocked points off this game just because the first one sucked.

I know its not the same thing but look at too human, everyone including me were hating on it, and now opinion seems to be changing.

so if the first KZ sucked, but the seconds one is fantastic, I believe the scores will show that.

I do still expect a lot of great scores if it is great , but to think that Killzone is going to be treated like any other game is just ignorance imo , this is Killzone we are talking about. You should read more impressions and listen to podcasts and you will get a better sense of how the larger media groups react to anything "Killzone".

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Yes. Cows could try to deny it all they want, but the hype is through the roof on this one.
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#32 LEGEND_C4A
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[QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

I would be extremely happy with that score from Gamespot. Remember ..... the majority of media seem to still see Killzone as a mediocre franchise form a mediocre developer with undeserved hype so it carries a lot of baggage whether it is going to be great or not ..... and most will be looking for reasons to tear it apart just because it's Killzone , and that is just keeping it real. The standards leveled against it will be extremely high so I would think that even great scores for this game from the skeptics will be quite telling.

Nike_Air

I don't believe this, the game is not out and you are already coming up with excuses why it might now score high? if this game rocks, the scores will say so, I refuse to think reviewers have already knocked points off this game just because the first one sucked.

I know its not the same thing but look at too human, everyone including me were hating on it, and now opinion seems to be changing.

so if the first KZ sucked, but the seconds one is fantastic, I believe the scores will show that.

I do still expect a lot of great scores if it is great , but to think that Killzone is going to be treated like any other game is just ignorance imo , this is Killzone we are talking about. You should read more impressions and listen to podcasts and you will get a better sense of how the larger media groups react to anything "Killzone".

I do understand what you are saying, but in the end, if the game deserves great scores, I believe it will get it. well, at least I hope so.

in the end, if you guys pick it up and enjoy it, regardless of the score than good for you.

the outfit was one game that didn't get any love, not in killzones pedigree I guess if killzone has one, but regardless, I got it and loved it.

so hopefully it will be the same for PS3 owners regardless if it gets great scores or not.

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#33 SSCyborg
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I thought it was TEH HALO KILLER

I mean with all the hype Sony fans are giving it, anything below 9.5 would be a flop.

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Unfortunately it is by SW standards. KZ2 has to much hype for its own good, I don't know if it will live up to. Swift_Boss_A

The only people hyping Killzone 2 are cows, although they do make up about 60% of the system wars population.

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#35 Flamestos
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I've said cows should hype it AA from the beginning so hopefully they listen when the official hype thread is made.
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im gonna say no way, people are expected KZ2 to flop like the first one, if it gets an 8.5, me and many others will be very very happy
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I dont believe that it is hyped AAA.Wasdie

i see your point, the cows are being Uber cautious with the game right now, but i do think that when we get nearer their instincts will take over and we will see 9 and even 10 hype. personally i think 8.0 is a safe bet, solid but uninspired.

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#38 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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Its a flop if it gets anything below a 9.0 here

Cows have been hyping this game since 05 an if it flops the damage controlls and account suicides would be of epic proportion :lol:

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#39 thrones
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Its a flop if it gets anything below a 9.0 here

Cows have been hyping this game since 05 an if it flops the damage controlls and account suicides would be of epic proportion :lol:

Gh0st_Of_0nyx
But it would probably be an awesome game in reality. The same way the 8.5 Battlefield: Bad Company trashes the 9.5 Halo 3 and 9.0 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare.
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#40 bungie93
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

Its a flop if it gets anything below a 9.0 here

Cows have been hyping this game since 05 an if it flops the damage controlls and account suicides would be of epic proportion :lol:

thrones

But it would probably be an awesome game in reality. The same way the 8.5 Battlefield: Bad Company trashes the 9.5 Halo 3 and 9.0 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare.

lol?

Battlefield: Bad Company absolutely sucks. It isn't a real battlefield game and tarnishes the Battlefield name.

Call of Duty 4 and Halo 3 crap on BF:BC.

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#41 thrones
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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

Its a flop if it gets anything below a 9.0 here

Cows have been hyping this game since 05 an if it flops the damage controlls and account suicides would be of epic proportion :lol:

bungie93

But it would probably be an awesome game in reality. The same way the 8.5 Battlefield: Bad Company trashes the 9.5 Halo 3 and 9.0 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare.

lol?

Battlefield: Bad Company absolutely sucks. It isn't a real battlefield game and tarnishes the Battlefield name.

Call of Duty 4 and Halo 3 crap on BF:BC.

No. Now sit down and understand men are talking here.
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#42 SSJ_Nega
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Thrones made a hype thread a little bit ago, and i believe it averaged around an 8.5.
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Gotta wait and see what the official hype is.
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#44 bungie93
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[QUOTE="bungie93"][QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

Its a flop if it gets anything below a 9.0 here

Cows have been hyping this game since 05 an if it flops the damage controlls and account suicides would be of epic proportion :lol:

thrones

But it would probably be an awesome game in reality. The same way the 8.5 Battlefield: Bad Company trashes the 9.5 Halo 3 and 9.0 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare.

lol?

Battlefield: Bad Company absolutely sucks. It isn't a real battlefield game and tarnishes the Battlefield name.

Call of Duty 4 and Halo 3 crap on BF:BC.

No. Now sit down and understand men are talking here.

You have clearly never played Battlefield 1942 or Battlefield 2.

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[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]Unfortunately it is by SW standards. KZ2 has to much hype for its own good, I don't know if it will live up to. bungie93

The only people hyping Killzone 2 are cows, although they do make up about 60% of the system wars population.

well who else would you expect to hype this game? not wii fans and not 360 fans. :P

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#46 thrones
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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="bungie93"][QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

Its a flop if it gets anything below a 9.0 here

Cows have been hyping this game since 05 an if it flops the damage controlls and account suicides would be of epic proportion :lol:

bungie93

But it would probably be an awesome game in reality. The same way the 8.5 Battlefield: Bad Company trashes the 9.5 Halo 3 and 9.0 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare.

lol?

Battlefield: Bad Company absolutely sucks. It isn't a real battlefield game and tarnishes the Battlefield name.

Call of Duty 4 and Halo 3 crap on BF:BC.

No. Now sit down and understand men are talking here.

You have clearly never played Battlefield 1942 or Battlefield 2.

Yes I have :|
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I wouldn't say so, even if cow's are hyping it AAA (I dont know what the hype is)
going from a 6.9 from KZ1 to 8.5 to KZ2 would be great.
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If it gets 8.5 I will call it an accomplishment considering the first got a 6.9.
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#49 Haku_Ryushi
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This forum is very amusing. And also how many people here deny the fact that Killzone 2 will do great 8.5-9.0
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#50 thepwninator
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Depending on how it is hyped, it may or may not be a flop. However, if it gets an 8.5, it, like Mass Effect and S.T.A.L.K.E.R will be a great game, and that, in my opinion, is all that matters.