IF Killzone2,MGS4 and Uncharted were also on Xbox 360.........

[QUOTE="ShawnBlaze"][QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="ShawnBlaze"][QUOTE="GnR-SLaSh"]

The reason that most multiplats look better on 360 is devs can't be bothered to learn how to programme well for PS3 so they just do lazy ports...

Exclusives have much more effort put into them in that respect so I do believe this thread is a little pointless..

millerlight89

but but teh lazy devs waahh!!! Typical sony fanboy response, so what you are telling me is that every mult-plat dev this gen is lazy?

Notice that the main games that look worse on PS3 Ubi Soft has something to do with that game, and lets face it they have gone down hill

go back and loock at the other 2 graphics comparisons, youll see that thats not true.

Get you head out of your ass and see that both systems are great and your the idiot who loses out while playin Gears 2 and NG2 i'll be playing Mgs 4, gears 2, rfom2,LBP, Too Human, so in terms you are the weakest Douche goodbye

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="ShawnBlaze"][QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="ShawnBlaze"][QUOTE="GnR-SLaSh"]

The reason that most multiplats look better on 360 is devs can't be bothered to learn how to programme well for PS3 so they just do lazy ports...

Exclusives have much more effort put into them in that respect so I do believe this thread is a little pointless..

ShawnBlaze

but but teh lazy devs waahh!!! Typical sony fanboy response, so what you are telling me is that every mult-plat dev this gen is lazy?

Notice that the main games that look worse on PS3 Ubi Soft has something to do with that game, and lets face it they have gone down hill

go back and loock at the other 2 graphics comparisons, youll see that thats not true.

Get you head out of your ass and see that both systems are great and your the idiot who loses out while playin Gears 2 and NG2 i'll be playing Mgs 4, gears 2, rfom2,LBP, Too Human, so in terms you are the weakest Douche goodbye

So..those bolded games are trash?

Good to know from the mouth of thehimself.

[QUOTE="goodlay"]

[QUOTE="ShawnBlaze"]If they were all on 360 they would look better but they would still suck.....ShawnBlaze

You've played Killzone 2 and MGS4?

No but I played Kz1 and Mgs2/3 and they all sucked so... Also anyone who thinks Guerilla who has never ever made a good game is suddenly gonna make kz2 be good just because its on ps3 should just jump off of a cliff.

Well kz1 suck. but mgs2/3? the game does not suck. it's the who suck.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="ShawnBlaze"][QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="ShawnBlaze"][QUOTE="GnR-SLaSh"]

The reason that most multiplats look better on 360 is devs can't be bothered to learn how to programme well for PS3 so they just do lazy ports...

Exclusives have much more effort put into them in that respect so I do believe this thread is a little pointless..

ShawnBlaze

but but teh lazy devs waahh!!! Typical sony fanboy response, so what you are telling me is that every mult-plat dev this gen is lazy?

Notice that the main games that look worse on PS3 Ubi Soft has something to do with that game, and lets face it they have gone down hill

go back and loock at the other 2 graphics comparisons, youll see that thats not true.

Get you head out of your ass and see that both systems are great and your the idiot who loses out while playin Gears 2 and NG2 i'll be playing Mgs 4, gears 2, rfom2,LBP, Too Human, so in terms you are the weakest Douche goodbye

Wow i'll be playing those to b/c I have a 360, and i'll be playing the ps3 hahahahahahahahahahahahaha you lose troll

Well they would all be on multiple disks for a start :) But here's the real question, what is this Uncharged that you speak of?The-Big-Easy

you honestly think that? :lol: The ONLY way they'd ever be on multiple disc would be if the devs had to use the same technique as they do with the PS3. That technique is called multiple copies of general gaming data. The PS3 suffers big time by having an extremely slow BR drive and a serious lack of RAM. The 360 can run circles and circles around the PS3 when it comes to uncompressing data. A game on the 360 such as Oblivion. The PS3 version of the game was forced to have 3 copies of the main land file where as the 360 version only had one. This means that off of that one single file alone, the PS3 version jumped up to using 3x the space as the 360 counterpart. That coupled with programmers having to leave textures and audio files uncompressed for speed sake ONLY proves how inferior the PS3 hardware truely is.

The ONLY reason BR is even needed for the PS3 is simply because the system lacks so much more then what it gains in the long run. The Cell obviously hasn't done squat for compression and BR hasn't made it possible for developers to deliver these huge games that Sony was talking about.

Truth is that the PS3 is the most overhyped pile this generation and only the illinformed believe otherwise.

[QUOTE="ShawnBlaze"][QUOTE="goodlay"]

[QUOTE="ShawnBlaze"]If they were all on 360 they would look better but they would still suck.....Bloodseeker23

You've played Killzone 2 and MGS4?

No but I played Kz1 and Mgs2/3 and they all sucked so... Also anyone who thinks Guerilla who has never ever made a good game is suddenly gonna make kz2 be good just because its on ps3 should just jump off of a cliff.

Well kz1 suck. but mgs2/3? the game does not suck. it's the who suck.

[QUOTE="The-Big-Easy"]Well they would all be on multiple disks for a start :) But here's the real question, what is this Uncharged that you speak of?Nedemis

you honestly think that? :lol: The ONLY way they'd ever be on multiple disc would be if the devs had to use the same technique as they do with the PS3. That technique is called multiple copies of general gaming data. The PS3 suffers big time by having an extremely slow BR drive and a serious lack of RAM. The 360 can run circles and circles around the PS3 when it comes to uncompressing data. A game on the 360 such as Oblivion. The PS3 version of the game was forced to have 3 copies of the main land file where as the 360 version only had one. This means that off of that one single file alone, the PS3 version jumped up to using 3x the space as the 360 counterpart. That coupled with programmers having to leave textures and audio files uncompressed for speed sake ONLY proves how inferior the PS3 hardware truely is.

The ONLY reason BR is even needed for the PS3 is simply because the system lacks so much more then what it gains in the long run. The Cell obviously hasn't done squat for compression and BR hasn't made it possible for developers to deliver these huge games that Sony was talking about.

Truth is that the PS3 is the most overhyped pile this generation and only the illinformed believe otherwise.

Hmm, how do you propose 50 gigabites of MGS4 fit onto one DVD9?

[QUOTE="ShawnBlaze"][QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="ShawnBlaze"][QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="ShawnBlaze"][QUOTE="GnR-SLaSh"]

The reason that most multiplats look better on 360 is devs can't be bothered to learn how to programme well for PS3 so they just do lazy ports...

Exclusives have much more effort put into them in that respect so I do believe this thread is a little pointless..

thrones

but but teh lazy devs waahh!!! Typical sony fanboy response, so what you are telling me is that every mult-plat dev this gen is lazy?

Notice that the main games that look worse on PS3 Ubi Soft has something to do with that game, and lets face it they have gone down hill

go back and loock at the other 2 graphics comparisons, youll see that thats not true.

Get you head out of your ass and see that both systems are great and your the idiot who loses out while playin Gears 2 and NG2 i'll be playing Mgs 4, gears 2, rfom2,LBP, Too Human, so in terms you are the weakest Douche goodbye

So..those bolded games are trash?

Good to know from the mouth of thehimself.

Come on lems, answer the question. How do you propose we fit 50 gigs of MGS4, onto one DVD9?

[QUOTE="thrones"]

So..those bolded games are trash?

Good to know from the mouth of thehimself.

ShawnBlaze

:lol: this is hilarious....

Shawn just stfu and sit down will ya and read your posts before you submit it...

Come on lems, answer the question. How do you propose we fit 50 gigs of MGS4, onto one DVD9?

The-Big-Easy

simple....compress the audio, remove all multiple copies of general game data and finally compress all texture files.

[QUOTE="The-Big-Easy"]

Come on lems, answer the question. How do you propose we fit 50 gigs of MGS4, onto one DVD9?

Nedemis

simple....compress the audio, remove all multiple copies of general game data and finally compress all texture files.

No, just no.

Come on lems, answer the question. How do you propose we fit 50 gigs of MGS4, onto one DVD9?

The-Big-Easy

[QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="The-Big-Easy"]

Come on lems, answer the question. How do you propose we fit 50 gigs of MGS4, onto one DVD9?

The-Big-Easy

simple....compress the audio, remove all multiple copies of general game data and finally compress all texture files.

No, just no.

really? why not? Seems as if having over 17GB of the games size taken up just by audio that it would be quite possible to cut back on even more unnessesary waste of space files that all PS3 games have these days. Multiple copies of general data most likely takes up close to another 10GB and uncomrpessed HD textures would come close to that as well. In short, more then half of the game is a needless waste of space seeing how the PS3 can't uncompress data quickly enough when compared to the 360 abilities to run circles around the pathetic PS3 compression tools. :lol:

or do you just say no because you know I'm right and the truth hurts?

[QUOTE="The-Big-Easy"][QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="The-Big-Easy"]

Come on lems, answer the question. How do you propose we fit 50 gigs of MGS4, onto one DVD9?

Nedemis

simple....compress the audio, remove all multiple copies of general game data and finally compress all texture files.

No, just no.

really? why not? Seems as if having over 17GB of the games size taken up just by audio that it would be quite possible to cut back on even more unnessesary waste of space files that all PS3 games have these days. Multiple copies of general data most likely takes up close to another 10GB and uncomrpessed HD textures would come close to that as well. In short, more then half of the game is a needless waste of space seeing how the PS3 can't uncompress data quickly enough when compared to the 360 abilities to run circles around the pathetic PS3 compression tools. :lol:

or do you just say no because you know I'm right and the truth hurts?

I just don't think people like to admit they're wrong. Anyways, you're probably partially right in that most developers don't compress data to get around the PS3's slower read times, but I think Kojima would have had everything uncompressed regardless.

Both 360 and PS3 graphics look jsut as good as the other. If it was on 360, it would look the same. black_awpN1

I reaaly dont like MGS4 textures! Im sure 360 could do better...

No. How would Uncharted look better on the 360, if no 360 game looks better then Uncharted on the PS3.EVOLV3

Well...thats an opinion! I think that lots of 360 games look better than Uncharted. Even some multiplats....

[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]No. How would Uncharted look better on the 360, if no 360 game looks better then Uncharted on the PS3.PAL360

Well...thats an opinion! I think that lots of 360 games look better than Uncharted. Even some multiplats....

You havent played Uncharted

Those games would look better because all multiplats look better on 360. If you dont agree with me prove it!PC_X360

[QUOTE="PC_X360"]Those games would look better because all multiplats look better on 360. If you dont agree with me prove it!xXHackettXx

Gta4 is not even HD on pS3

[QUOTE="Nedemis"]

[QUOTE="The-Big-Easy"]Well they would all be on multiple disks for a start :) But here's the real question, what is this Uncharged that you speak of?The-Big-Easy

you honestly think that? :lol: The ONLY way they'd ever be on multiple disc would be if the devs had to use the same technique as they do with the PS3. That technique is called multiple copies of general gaming data. The PS3 suffers big time by having an extremely slow BR drive and a serious lack of RAM. The 360 can run circles and circles around the PS3 when it comes to uncompressing data. A game on the 360 such as Oblivion. The PS3 version of the game was forced to have 3 copies of the main land file where as the 360 version only had one. This means that off of that one single file alone, the PS3 version jumped up to using 3x the space as the 360 counterpart. That coupled with programmers having to leave textures and audio files uncompressed for speed sake ONLY proves how inferior the PS3 hardware truely is.

The ONLY reason BR is even needed for the PS3 is simply because the system lacks so much more then what it gains in the long run. The Cell obviously hasn't done squat for compression and BR hasn't made it possible for developers to deliver these huge games that Sony was talking about.

Truth is that the PS3 is the most overhyped pile this generation and only the illinformed believe otherwise.

Hmm, how do you propose 50 gigabites of MGS4 fit onto one DVD9?

[QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="The-Big-Easy"]

Come on lems, answer the question. How do you propose we fit 50 gigs of MGS4, onto one DVD9?

The-Big-Easy

simple....compress the audio, remove all multiple copies of general game data and finally compress all texture files.

No, just no.

I'm a cow, but I do know GTA4 on PS3 is 25 gigs and 8 or 9 gigs on 360. With that said, MGS4 is 50 gigs, With a second disc for online. So Lems could have MGS4 with two dics, with a third disc for MG online.

Yea sound quality goes down, and graphics when compressed. I know.

[QUOTE="The-Big-Easy"][QUOTE="Nedemis"]

[QUOTE="The-Big-Easy"]Well they would all be on multiple disks for a start :) But here's the real question, what is this Uncharged that you speak of?edwise18

you honestly think that? :lol: The ONLY way they'd ever be on multiple disc would be if the devs had to use the same technique as they do with the PS3. That technique is called multiple copies of general gaming data. The PS3 suffers big time by having an extremely slow BR drive and a serious lack of RAM. The 360 can run circles and circles around the PS3 when it comes to uncompressing data. A game on the 360 such as Oblivion. The PS3 version of the game was forced to have 3 copies of the main land file where as the 360 version only had one. This means that off of that one single file alone, the PS3 version jumped up to using 3x the space as the 360 counterpart. That coupled with programmers having to leave textures and audio files uncompressed for speed sake ONLY proves how inferior the PS3 hardware truely is.

The ONLY reason BR is even needed for the PS3 is simply because the system lacks so much more then what it gains in the long run. The Cell obviously hasn't done squat for compression and BR hasn't made it possible for developers to deliver these huge games that Sony was talking about.

Truth is that the PS3 is the most overhyped pile this generation and only the illinformed believe otherwise.

Hmm, how do you propose 50 gigabites of MGS4 fit onto one DVD9?

I personally can not wait for the day when developers start to take procedural synthesis seriously. DVD9 would even be an extremely viable format even for next gen as well. :)

.........The-Big-Easy

seems like you've vanished after my last post. Too much truth for you to take at once?

Those games would look better because all multiplats look better on 360. If you dont agree with me prove it!PC_X360

If MassEffect,GeOW,and BioShock were all on PC....oh sh*t they are AND they ALL look better then the ones for the 360 :shock: since I have a PC and Im getting a PS3 I WIN!!!!

[QUOTE="edwise18"][QUOTE="The-Big-Easy"][QUOTE="Nedemis"]

[QUOTE="The-Big-Easy"]Well they would all be on multiple disks for a start :) But here's the real question, what is this Uncharged that you speak of?Nedemis

you honestly think that? :lol: The ONLY way they'd ever be on multiple disc would be if the devs had to use the same technique as they do with the PS3. That technique is called multiple copies of general gaming data. The PS3 suffers big time by having an extremely slow BR drive and a serious lack of RAM. The 360 can run circles and circles around the PS3 when it comes to uncompressing data. A game on the 360 such as Oblivion. The PS3 version of the game was forced to have 3 copies of the main land file where as the 360 version only had one. This means that off of that one single file alone, the PS3 version jumped up to using 3x the space as the 360 counterpart. That coupled with programmers having to leave textures and audio files uncompressed for speed sake ONLY proves how inferior the PS3 hardware truely is.

The ONLY reason BR is even needed for the PS3 is simply because the system lacks so much more then what it gains in the long run. The Cell obviously hasn't done squat for compression and BR hasn't made it possible for developers to deliver these huge games that Sony was talking about.

Truth is that the PS3 is the most overhyped pile this generation and only the illinformed believe otherwise.

Hmm, how do you propose 50 gigabites of MGS4 fit onto one DVD9?

I personally can not wait for the day when developers start to take procedural synthesis seriously. DVD9 would even be an extremely viable format even for next gen as well. :)

next gen is going to be blu-ray for sure and graphics are basically the same did u read the article gamespot had

graphics is out the question for ps3/360 they are equal....move on to but the ps3 has no games

If they were on xbox we'd have KillZone 1.5, MGS3.5, and Uncharted would be a 9.0 on Gamespot.

[QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="ShawnBlaze"][QUOTE="Couth_"]They might have better textures, but they would probably have worse character models, worse lighting, and less on screen. I wouldn't take that trade off.PC_X360

Time to install Gta4 on your ps3

are you really trying to own him based on the fact that he had to wait an extra 4 minutes to play gta4? that extra 4 minutes means no texture popping. thats just smart thinking. too bad the 360 doesnt have a HDD come standard. maybe then ME GeoW and GTA4 wouldnt have that dumb popping.

[QUOTE="xXHackettXx"][QUOTE="PC_X360"]Those games would look better because all multiplats look better on 360. If you dont agree with me prove it!PC_X360

Gta4 is not even HD on pS3

yet most reviews said the PS3 version looked better..... hmmmmmm...

[QUOTE="PC_X360"]Those games would look better because all multiplats look better on 360. If you dont agree with me prove it!sparkypants

If MassEffect,GeOW,and BioShock were all on PC....oh sh*t they are AND they ALL look better then the ones for the 360 :shock: since I have a PC and Im getting a PS3 I WIN!!!!

They all are on pc and looks better too:)

[QUOTE="edwise18"][QUOTE="The-Big-Easy"][QUOTE="Nedemis"]

[QUOTE="The-Big-Easy"]Well they would all be on multiple disks for a start :) But here's the real question, what is this Uncharged that you speak of?Nedemis

you honestly think that? :lol: The ONLY way they'd ever be on multiple disc would be if the devs had to use the same technique as they do with the PS3. That technique is called multiple copies of general gaming data. The PS3 suffers big time by having an extremely slow BR drive and a serious lack of RAM. The 360 can run circles and circles around the PS3 when it comes to uncompressing data. A game on the 360 such as Oblivion. The PS3 version of the game was forced to have 3 copies of the main land file where as the 360 version only had one. This means that off of that one single file alone, the PS3 version jumped up to using 3x the space as the 360 counterpart. That coupled with programmers having to leave textures and audio files uncompressed for speed sake ONLY proves how inferior the PS3 hardware truely is.

The ONLY reason BR is even needed for the PS3 is simply because the system lacks so much more then what it gains in the long run. The Cell obviously hasn't done squat for compression and BR hasn't made it possible for developers to deliver these huge games that Sony was talking about.

Truth is that the PS3 is the most overhyped pile this generation and only the illinformed believe otherwise.

Hmm, how do you propose 50 gigabites of MGS4 fit onto one DVD9?

I personally can not wait for the day when developers start to take procedural synthesis seriously. DVD9 would even be an extremely viable format even for next gen as well. :)

Frankly, 4X Blu-ray drives are faster than the dirve in the X360, and 6X Blu-ray drives leave DVDs in general in the dust. Now, the currently highest proposed speed is 12X which is 54MB/S compared to the current highest for DVD which is 21.60.

Now tell me, why should we keep DVD9 for next generation?

[QUOTE="PC_X360"]

[QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="ShawnBlaze"][QUOTE="Couth_"]They might have better textures, but they would probably have worse character models, worse lighting, and less on screen. I wouldn't take that trade off.PSBox3SixWi

Time to install Gta4 on your ps3

are you really trying to own him based on the fact that he had to wait an extra 4 minutes to play gta4? that extra 4 minutes means no texture popping. thats just smart thinking. too bad the 360 doesnt have a HDD come standard. maybe then ME GeoW and GTA4 wouldnt have that dumb popping.

You are lucky the 360 dosent have a Hdd as standard or the multiplats would look even worse and PS3 version also has Poppins.