If Mario was replaced by Crash Bandicoot in SMG2 for PS3 what would it get rated

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#1 ZarbonX
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Say a spinoff of crash bandicaoot came out it had planets an stuff an played like super mario galaxy 2 for the wii

would it still have gotten a 10 on the ps3 or would it get downrated for not being a mario game hence not 10 material even if the gameplay graphics is the same

just think about that for a minute an wonder do you think a crash bandicoot or rachet an clank or jak an dexter can get a 10 even if its as good as SMG2 judging from reveiewers it doesn't look like it they just don't like the characters as much as mario an thats pretty much nostaligia factoring into ratings

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Say a spinoff of crash bandicaoot came out it had planets an stuff an played like super mario galaxy 2 for the wii

would it still have gotten a 10 on the ps3 or would it get downrated for not being a mario game hence not 10 material even if the gameplay graphics is the same

just think about that for a minute an wonder do you think a crash bandicoot or rachet an clank or jak an dexter can get a 10 even if its as good as SMG2 judging from reveiewers it doesn't look like it they just don't like the characters as much as mario an thats pretty much nostaligia factoring into ratings

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crash bandicoot is a horrible character...
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#3 loadedboon
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Say a spinoff of crash bandicaoot came out it had planets an stuff an played like super mario galaxy 2 for the wii

would it still have gotten a 10 on the ps3 or would it get downrated for not being a mario game hence not 10 material even if the gameplay graphics is the same

just think about that for a minute an wonder do you think a crash bandicoot or rachet an clank or jak an dexter can get a 10 even if its as good as SMG2 judging from reveiewers it doesn't look like it they just don't like the characters as much as mario an thats pretty much nostaligia factoring into ratings

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I had more fun playing SMG2 then MGS4. SMG2 was the game which deserved the 10 MGS4 on the other hand is nothing more then a 8.5-9.

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#4 ZarbonX
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exactly my point NOBODY likes the character so it will never get a 10 no matter how good the game is but everyone likes mario so its possible for him to get 10's if his game is good

does nobody see a flaw in this system

i even think crash bandicoot sux the point is he shouldn't be judged by his character it should be gameplay an stuff

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#5 DethSkematik
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Maybe. Mario's Itallian, so he's probably in the Mafia ;). Kind of explains why everyone won't refuse his games, no matter how strange the concept :P.
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#6 skanjos
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why do you care about ratings?if it is a good game and "you" like it buy it and play it .... ratings are just opinions...

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#7 caryslan2
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Will you just stop? Not every Mario game gets a AAA score, if you have any doubts about that go check out the reviews for Super Mario Sunshine and New Super Brothers Wii.

For the last time, it got its score because of the quality gameplay, not the name on the box. Maybe if Crash starred in a half-way decent game that wasen't from the PS1 era maybe you could see his series get AAA scores.

But to answer you question, you could plug Alex Kidd, Master Higgins, or Bonk into SMG2 and it would still earn a 10. Mario being in the game does not earn the game an automatic 10.

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#8 SapSacPrime
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I loved the PS1 crash games but in all fairness they have always been crap compared to Mario games, it has nothing to do with the characters its the games (or are you implying the GS staff are attracted to short over weight men with mustaches? :P).

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#9 ZarbonX
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will you just listen to me for a sec dude ur telling me u would have give Crash Bandicoot Galaxy a perfect 10 if it played the same an looked rthe same on the ps3 is that what ur telling me sir everythin the same cept its crash bandicoot an u gonna rate it a 10 an buy it day one?

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#10 loadedboon
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will you just listen to me for a sec dude ur telling me u would have give Crash Bandicoot Galaxy a perfect 10 if it played the same an looked rthe same on the ps3 is that what ur telling me sir everythin the same cept its crash bandicoot an u gonna rate it a 10 an buy it day one?

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If a crash bandicoot game ever came close to SMG and SMG2 yes I would buy it. The score has nothing to do with the main character it's the gameplay and everything else which makes the SMG games unique!

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#11 fabz_95
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The thing is, it's not just about Mario. It's all the other things from the Mario world too, the items, the enemies the friends. If you just replaced Mario with Crash Bandicoot then I think it'd get a 10 but if the other things were changed with Crash Bandicoot characters, then the world would be changed which would then change the gameplay which may stop the game from getting a 10.
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#12 Iantheone
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If it was as good as SMG then yes.
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#13 themagicbum9720
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in one of the galaxy reviews, they said you can put any franchise in it and it'll still be a good game.
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#14 Mr_Cumberdale
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Maybe, or at least 9.5. The gameplay in SMG is what makes it excellent, not Mario.
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#15 lucky_star
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[QUOTE="ZarbonX"]

Say a spinoff of crash bandicaoot came out it had planets an stuff an played like super mario galaxy 2 for the wii

would it still have gotten a 10 on the ps3 or would it get downrated for not being a mario game hence not 10 material even if the gameplay graphics is the same

just think about that for a minute an wonder do you think a crash bandicoot or rachet an clank or jak an dexter can get a 10 even if its as good as SMG2 judging from reveiewers it doesn't look like it they just don't like the characters as much as mario an thats pretty much nostaligia factoring into ratings

Probably a 7. Little to no voice acting, camera angles can be confusing. It has too much variety and its too much fun.
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#16 wooooode
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Well it would be a blatent rip-off of SMG so it would not have gotten a 10. Also a 10 for the PS3 is different than a 10 for the Wii, the graphics and such would have to meet higher standards.
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#17 chocolate1325
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It didn't get a 10 because Mario is in the game it is just a well excuted game and possibly any character could star in.

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#18 AzatiS
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[QUOTE="ZarbonX"]

Say a spinoff of crash bandicaoot came out it had planets an stuff an played like super mario galaxy 2 for the wii

would it still have gotten a 10 on the ps3 or would it get downrated for not being a mario game hence not 10 material even if the gameplay graphics is the same

just think about that for a minute an wonder do you think a crash bandicoot or rachet an clank or jak an dexter can get a 10 even if its as good as SMG2 judging from reveiewers it doesn't look like it they just don't like the characters as much as mario an thats pretty much nostaligia factoring into ratings

8 to 9.... MAX... Even if will be identical wont be mario... Period. Plus theyll find 100 reasons to bash it like "" Weve seen that before "" issue , though they aint saying nothing when we seeing MARIO and 100 spin off mario games for 20 years now... Also most editors grew up with mario games. ( 30-40 range age ). They simply can be fully unbiased with an icon they loved as kids etc . Nor would i be to be honest though my gaming icons where totally different than Nintendos. Thats my opinion.
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#19 DanteSuikoden
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Probably not

It would be marked down in most reviews because crash (at least back in ps1 days) was not expected to be a kiddy type game

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#20 gamebreakerz__
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GS reviews are blatantly influenced by hype or long running game series as are all game reviews. Take a game like MW2, many game sites gave it 10/10 because of the massive hype train, had it been some random 3rd party dev than it wouldn't have got these scores. I wouldn't have given it a 4.5 had it not been COD because comparable to the series it was awful. I can't speak for SMG2 because I haven't played it and don't intend to but from what I hear its very similar to SMG and a game which merely adds to a previous game shouldn't get a 10 but as I said I can't really have an opinion.
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#21 DraugenCP
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If SMG1 and 2 were Crash Bandicoot games they would get an equal amount of praise, because even if you replace Mario with the Cheetamen, those games are still by far the best 3D platformers ever created.

Now stop whining.

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#22 DraugenCP
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I can't speak for SMG2 because I haven't played it and don't intend to but from what I hear its very similar to SMG and a game which merely adds to a previous game shouldn't get a 10 but as I said I can't really have an opinion.gamebreakerz__

Then don't speak for it. Nearly everyone who says it's 'too similar' to SMG either hasn't played it, or hasn't paid attention.

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#23 lucky_star
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GS reviews are blatantly influenced by hype or long running game series as are all game reviews. Take a game like MW2, many game sites gave it 10/10 because of the massive hype train, had it been some random 3rd party dev than it wouldn't have got these scores. I wouldn't have given it a 4.5 had it not been COD because comparable to the series it was awful. I can't speak for SMG2 because I haven't played it and don't intend to but from what I hear its very similar to SMG and a game which merely adds to a previous game shouldn't get a 10 but as I said I can't really have an opinion.gamebreakerz__
Im glad someone else has noticed this^
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#24 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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If Crash was in place of Mario, and that game was Crash Bandicoot Galaxy, it would be hyped even more. The game would be the greatest comback game of alltime.

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#25 -Snooze-
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If Mario Galaxy lacked all the charm and appewal of the mario universe, and instead had the TERRIBLE crash universe, what would it score? About -7.5-8

Games aren't judged soley on gameplay, anyone who says Mario Galaxy got a 10 simply for it's gameplay is lying to themselves.

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#26 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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If Mario Galaxy lacked all the charm and appewal of the mario universe, and instead had the TERRIBLE crash universe, what would it score? About -7.5-8

Games aren't judged soley on gameplay, anyone who says Mario Galaxy got a 10 simply for it's gameplay is lying to themselves.

-Snooze-

You're right there. It got a 10 for gameplay, artstyle, level of detail, challenge, ease of play, and masterful level design.

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#27 -Snooze-
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

If Mario Galaxy lacked all the charm and appewal of the mario universe, and instead had the TERRIBLE crash universe, what would it score? About -7.5-8

Games aren't judged soley on gameplay, anyone who says Mario Galaxy got a 10 simply for it's gameplay is lying to themselves.

jimkabrhel

You're right there. It got a 10 for gameplay, artstyle, level of detail, challenge, ease of play, and masterful level design.

I'd agree aside from challenge and level of detail ... The game is pretty flat and ugly. The artstyle kinda blows too, but to each his own.

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#28 burgeg
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If Mario Galaxy lacked all the charm and appewal of the mario universe, and instead had the TERRIBLE crash universe, what would it score? About -7.5-8

Games aren't judged soley on gameplay, anyone who says Mario Galaxy got a 10 simply for it's gameplay is lying to themselves.

-Snooze-

Bull. The Crash universe is great and has plenty of charm and appeal. Did you even play the Crash games on PS1? Have you played Crash Twinsanity? Play Crash Twinsanity and dare to come back and say it lacks charm. Even if the gameplay in that game isn't absolutely amazing, the humour and charm of the characters and the world is incredible. How does Crash have a terrible universe? Other than your childhood nostalgia, what makes the mario universe more appealing and how would SMG2 being replaced by stuff from the Crash universe make the game worse in any way whatsoever?

But anyway, SMG2 being replaced by Crash would actually work really well. Both have a spin attack and can jump on enemies to defeat them. Both characters have a long jump and high jump. Butt stomp = belly flop. Just replace enemies in the game with enemies from the Crash games plus add new ones just like Galaxy does and give Crash new power ups like Galaxy does. There's always times in the game to put in iconic Crash characters like Coco as the second playable character instead of Luigi. Some iconic characters like Tiny, Papu Papu, Ripper Roo, Cortex etc can be in the game as bosses. From a gameplay point of view Crash translates very easily to Mario Galaxy.

As for whether it would get as high scores, who cares? Maybe it would and maybe it wouldn't. Either way it wouldn't hinder my enjoyment of the game.

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#29 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

If Mario Galaxy lacked all the charm and appewal of the mario universe, and instead had the TERRIBLE crash universe, what would it score? About -7.5-8

Games aren't judged soley on gameplay, anyone who says Mario Galaxy got a 10 simply for it's gameplay is lying to themselves.

-Snooze-

You're right there. It got a 10 for gameplay, artstyle, level of detail, challenge, ease of play, and masterful level design.

I'd agree aside from challenge and level of detail ... The game is pretty flat and ugly. The artstyle kinda blows too, but to each his own.

It was much more challenging than the first game. And not everyone likes colors, I guess.

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#30 -Snooze-
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

You're right there. It got a 10 for gameplay, artstyle, level of detail, challenge, ease of play, and masterful level design.

jimkabrhel

I'd agree aside from challenge and level of detail ... The game is pretty flat and ugly. The artstyle kinda blows too, but to each his own.

It was much more challenging than the first game. And not everyone likes colors, I guess.

I love colours. I thought Viva Pinata was a wonderful looking game, with tons of charm. I just think Mario Galaxy looks flat, with little to no detail.

The "grass" is just a blob of green.

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#31 deactivated-5e9044657a310
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I never would have thought that the Wii and a Mario game getting a 10 would be so devastating for the fanboys. I've seen more fake accounts and Nintendo bashing threads in the last month than I think I have before. We'll have to go through another cycle when it gets GOTY. It's just a game kids, move on with your life....
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[QUOTE="ZarbonX"]

Say a spinoff of crash bandicaoot came out it had planets an stuff an played like super mario galaxy 2 for the wii

would it still have gotten a 10 on the ps3 or would it get downrated for not being a mario game hence not 10 material even if the gameplay graphics is the same

just think about that for a minute an wonder do you think a crash bandicoot or rachet an clank or jak an dexter can get a 10 even if its as good as SMG2 judging from reveiewers it doesn't look like it they just don't like the characters as much as mario an thats pretty much nostaligia factoring into ratings

loadedboon

I had more fun playing SMG2 then MGS4. SMG2 was the game which deserved the 10 MGS4 on the other hand is nothing more then a 8.5-9.

Call SMG2 more fun if you like but MGS4 is a better game in every other way and deserves an 11/10
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[QUOTE="loadedboon"]

[QUOTE="ZarbonX"]

Say a spinoff of crash bandicaoot came out it had planets an stuff an played like super mario galaxy 2 for the wii

would it still have gotten a 10 on the ps3 or would it get downrated for not being a mario game hence not 10 material even if the gameplay graphics is the same

just think about that for a minute an wonder do you think a crash bandicoot or rachet an clank or jak an dexter can get a 10 even if its as good as SMG2 judging from reveiewers it doesn't look like it they just don't like the characters as much as mario an thats pretty much nostaligia factoring into ratings

hd5870corei7

I had more fun playing SMG2 then MGS4. SMG2 was the game which deserved the 10 MGS4 on the other hand is nothing more then a 8.5-9.

Call SMG2 more fun if you like but MGS4 is a better game in every other way and deserves an 11/10

:lol: Uh, no. I love MGS, but it is broken in a lot of ways. Mario plays flawlessly. There are things in MG that feel as though they could be smoothed out. Ex: CRAWLING.

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#34 Half-Way
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i wonder if MGS4 would have gotten its 10 if snake was replaced with sonic

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#35 FireEmblem_Man
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This argument is flawed..... How about we replace Solid Snake in MGS4 and add in Sam Fisher or take out Niko in GTA4 and add Conker? Will they still score a perfect 10?

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#36 Indie_Hitman
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[QUOTE="caryslan2"]

Will you just stop? Not every Mario game gets a AAA score, if you have any doubts about that go check out the reviews for Super Mario Sunshine and New Super Brothers Wii.

For the last time, it got its score because of the quality gameplay, not the name on the box. Maybe if Crash starred in a half-way decent game that wasen't from the PS1 era maybe you could see his series get AAA scores.

But to answer you question, you could plug Alex Kidd, Master Higgins, or Bonk into SMG2 and it would still earn a 10. Mario being in the game does not earn the game an automatic 10.

What about master Chief?.... or the Adjudicator?
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#37 Suicide-Panda
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[QUOTE="ZarbonX"]

Say a spinoff of crash bandicaoot came out it had planets an stuff an played like super mario galaxy 2 for the wii

would it still have gotten a 10 on the ps3 or would it get downrated for not being a mario game hence not 10 material even if the gameplay graphics is the same

just think about that for a minute an wonder do you think a crash bandicoot or rachet an clank or jak an dexter can get a 10 even if its as good as SMG2 judging from reveiewers it doesn't look like it they just don't like the characters as much as mario an thats pretty much nostaligia factoring into ratings

Rahnyc4
crash bandicoot is a horrible character...

Blasphemy!
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#38 glez13
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Who knows....but yes hype is part of the ratings, and flaws and achievements will magically dissapear and appear.

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#39 glez13
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This argument is flawed..... How about we replace Solid Snake in MGS4 and add in Sam Fisher or take out Niko in GTA4 and add Conker? Will they still score a perfect 10?

FireEmblem_Man

I believe he is actually talking about hype.

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#40 ActicEdge
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I don't understand what is so hard to get about SMG2 getting a 10 fair and square. Is it like poison to think the reviewer simply thought it was awesome?

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#41 Shirokishi_
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If Snake was replaced by Mario in MGS4 what would it get rated?

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#42 nintendo-4life
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a 10. Do people here really forget that Mario Sunshine scored AA here? :|
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#43 Mario1331
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lol whats wrong with this guy?

SMG2 is a amazing game blame the developers not the characters because Nintendo EAD are brilliant devs.

crash made halfass games ever since i think there was one crash that got over a 9 but anyway its the devs not the character not every mario game gets an 8

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#44 ActicEdge
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lol whats wrong with this guy?

SMG2 is a amazing game blame the developers not the characters because Nintendo EAD are brilliant devs.

crash made halfass games ever since i think there was one crash that got over a 9 but anyway its the devs not the character not every mario game gets an 8

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Crash Bandicoot 3 was a hell of a great game and so was 2. Halfass is incorrect.

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#45 davidkamayor
Member since 2008 • 1642 Posts

Say a spinoff of crash bandicaoot came out it had planets an stuff an played like super mario galaxy 2 for the wii

would it still have gotten a 10 on the ps3 or would it get downrated for not being a mario game hence not 10 material even if the gameplay graphics is the same

just think about that for a minute an wonder do you think a crash bandicoot or rachet an clank or jak an dexter can get a 10 even if its as good as SMG2 judging from reveiewers it doesn't look like it they just don't like the characters as much as mario an thats pretty much nostaligia factoring into ratings

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#46 Sp4rtan_3
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It would of gotten a 4 because crash bandicoot is a terrible character.
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#47 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

lol whats wrong with this guy?

SMG2 is a amazing game blame the developers not the characters because Nintendo EAD are brilliant devs.

crash made halfass games ever since i think there was one crash that got over a 9 but anyway its the devs not the character not every mario game gets an 8

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Crash Bandicoot 3 was a hell of a great game and so was 2. Halfass is incorrect.

thats 2 out of how many?:)

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#48 bobcheeseball
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Lol the damage control has been strong these past couple of days. Super Mario Galaxy 2 got a 10/10. Get over it dude. If it were based on characters then New Super Mario Bros Wii would have gotten a 10/10 not an 8.5/10
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#49 Nintendo_Ownes7
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If it was just like Super Mario Galaxy 2 the only difference was Crash Bandicoot it still would've got a 10 here.

If it was Crash Bandicoot game made by a different developer like the companies that are currently making it I doubt they would even accomplish that because Crash is owned by Activision.

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#50 Rockman999
Member since 2005 • 7507 Posts
It would have gotten 7.5-8. Mario fans don't like to admit it but the truth is having the Mario name and having Mario as the main character greatly enhances the score a game gets.