If not for the slight tech flaws.ME would be a 10.Should be 9.5. NOT 8.5 PERIOD

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#51 flowdee79
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A 7:roll: You are kidding right. Noone in there right mind can say this game is a 7. And ones that do are not in there right mind.

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#52 Dreams-Visions
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I'm about 5 hours in and I'm extremely impressed by the quality and production values of this game. all of its technical issues are blown way out of proportion. like people searching to find flaws...because most wouldn't be noticed if someone didn't point it out.
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#53 comstrikeiscool
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[QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"]

If you play ME for the game the way it is meant to be played "EXPLORATION" Not just a quick run through the story missions And make lame mistakes by saying the Rover aim sight does not work:roll: HOW LAME of a review.

Truly this game would be a 10 if the little tech flaws were not there. That being said you take .5 for that and it is 9.5 PERIOD

Not 8.5

7min abbs wait like 6 min abs. NO 7MIN ABS:lol:

Geezzz 8.5 are you kidding me pass the lazy pipe.

SolidTy

Yeah, Tell that to RATCHET AND CLANK Future, ZELDA:TP, METAL GEAR SOLID 3, and a host of other games that deserve better. Get in line.

Ratchet and Clank was AA, maybe 8.5 the highest, but definetely not AAA.

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#54 naval
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whatever, it still is a flop and a 8.5
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[QUOTE="meetroid8"]The real reason GS gave it such a low score was because they were dissapointed that it was just another shooter with RPG elements and a conversation system. Its an amazing AAA game but it wasn't really an RPG at all.JediRiff

Wrong. Completely wrong. There is no way you could have played the game saying something like that.

that is right, there are vary few RPG elements...

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#56 samusarmada
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[QUOTE="the_h_bomb"][QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"]

A 7:roll: You are kidding right. Noone in there right mind can say this game is a 7. And ones that do are not in there right mind.

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[QUOTE="meetroid8"]The real reason GS gave it such a low score was because they were dissapointed that it was just another shooter with RPG elements and a conversation system. Its an amazing AAA game but it wasn't really an RPG at all.JediRiff

Wrong. Completely wrong. There is no way you could have played the game saying something like that.

So far it seems a lot like a shooter with RPG elements to me. But I'm only 3 hours in, and I'm sure you wont be able to play the game like a shooter later in the game.

who cares what reviewers think anyway. I'm lovin the game so far, and that's all that matters to me

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#58 mattyomo99
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[QUOTE="JediRiff"]

[QUOTE="meetroid8"]The real reason GS gave it such a low score was because they were dissapointed that it was just another shooter with RPG elements and a conversation system. Its an amazing AAA game but it wasn't really an RPG at all.ejstrup

Wrong. Completely wrong. There is no way you could have played the game saying something like that.

So far it seems a lot like a shooter with RPG elements to me. But I'm only 3 hours in, and I'm sure you wont be able to play the game like a shooter later in the game.

who cares what reviewers think anyway. I'm lovin the game so far, and that's all that matters to me

actully you can, just equip a awesome pistol and let williams use her snper rifle and you are good to go

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If you play ME for the game the way it is meant to be played "EXPLORATION" Not just a quick run through the story missions And make lame mistakes by saying the Rover aim sight does not work:roll: HOW LAME of a review.

Truly this game would be a 10 if the little tech flaws were not there. That being said you take .5 for that and it is 9.5 PERIOD

Not 8.5

7min abbs wait like 6 min abs. NO 7MIN ABS:lol:

Geezzz 8.5 are you kidding me pass the lazy pipe.

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scores are bought and paid for around here. No sense in arguing over tainted reviews.
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[QUOTE="XanderZane"][QUOTE="Frostbite24"][QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"]

If you play ME for the game the way it is meant to be played "EXPLORATION" Not just a quick run through the story missions And make lame mistakes by saying the Rover aim sight does not work:roll: HOW LAME of a review.

Truly this game would be a 10 if the little tech flaws were not there. That being said you take .5 for that and it is 9.5 PERIOD

Not 8.5

7min abbs wait like 6 min abs. NO 7MIN ABS:lol:

Geezzz 8.5 are you kidding me pass the lazy pipe.

TREAL_Since

But the game does have some slight technical flaws...so it flops. I'm a lemming and I ****ing loving this game but I'm not a douche who's going to say it is not a flop.

Even at 8.5, I'll take that flop anyday. Heavenly Sword and Uncharted were both flops too, but I'm still going to get both of those games as well. These so called flops are going to give me hours and hours of enjoyment.

Uncharted was hyped AA bud. Heavenly sword was a flop. Replace Uncharted with Lair which was a nasty flop.

Uncharted got an "A 8.0"bud, so yes it flopped as well.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/uncharteddrakesfortune/review.html?sid=6183147

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#61 TheDarkDisciple
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The game deserved atleast a 9.0 even with the tech flaws and glitches. And i haven't even seen any kind of tech flaw unless you really consider texture popping to be one of them; and i've only run into one glitch where i had to re-load my last save.

I loved everything else, even the combat. Although the Mako was kinda annoying at times.

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I'm about 5 hours in and I'm extremely impressed by the quality and production values of this game. all of its technical issues are blown way out of proportion. like people searching to find flaws...because most wouldn't be noticed if someone didn't point it out.Dreams-Visions

I keep hearing that. I don't know if i should just call you a liar or if there's somehow a difference in how certain 360's run this game. I can guarantee you on my 360 the framerate is very unstable, especially in the citadel (stutters everytime you take a corner) and when there's alot of action it nearly halts. The texture popup is the wost I've ever seen on the 360, very noticable when you talk to the councel through the holographic projectors (the white lines on their clothes appear like a second too late. Its noticble in almost every cutscene. I can't understand how some people can say its barely noticable. I normally don't notice flaws pointed out by people (didn't see any in Gears for example) but this game is just filled to the brim with em.

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#63 xTHExJUICEx
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I guess lems havent found away to enjoy a game that wasnt reviewed the way they felt the game should have been reviewed.
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#64 JediRiff
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[QUOTE="JediRiff"]

[QUOTE="meetroid8"]The real reason GS gave it such a low score was because they were dissapointed that it was just another shooter with RPG elements and a conversation system. Its an amazing AAA game but it wasn't really an RPG at all.mattyomo99

Wrong. Completely wrong. There is no way you could have played the game saying something like that.

that is right, there are vary few RPG elements...

Crackdown is a shooter with RPG elements. Please tell me how this isnt an RPG. You are able to upgrade and enhance your weapons and armor by finding or purchasing better versions or armor and weapon upgrades, which increase as your level up. You are able to choose how you want to handle alot of the situations you are in, and can choose how you speak/interact with people. You level up by gaining xp by defeating enemies, or resolving situations... If that isnt an RPG to you, what is????

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#65 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="XanderZane"][QUOTE="Frostbite24"][QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"]

If you play ME for the game the way it is meant to be played "EXPLORATION" Not just a quick run through the story missions And make lame mistakes by saying the Rover aim sight does not work:roll: HOW LAME of a review.

Truly this game would be a 10 if the little tech flaws were not there. That being said you take .5 for that and it is 9.5 PERIOD

Not 8.5

7min abbs wait like 6 min abs. NO 7MIN ABS:lol:

Geezzz 8.5 are you kidding me pass the lazy pipe.

XanderZane

But the game does have some slight technical flaws...so it flops. I'm a lemming and I ****ing loving this game but I'm not a douche who's going to say it is not a flop.

Even at 8.5, I'll take that flop anyday. Heavenly Sword and Uncharted were both flops too, but I'm still going to get both of those games as well. These so called flops are going to give me hours and hours of enjoyment.

Uncharted was hyped AA bud. Heavenly sword was a flop. Replace Uncharted with Lair which was a nasty flop.

Uncharted got an "A 8.0"bud, so yes it flopped as well.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/uncharteddrakesfortune/review.html?sid=6183147

LOL 8.0 is AA and that's what it received. AA = 8.0-8.5

And mocking me wasn't necessary. I didn't mean "bud" in a bad way :|.

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]I'm about 5 hours in and I'm extremely impressed by the quality and production values of this game. all of its technical issues are blown way out of proportion. like people searching to find flaws...because most wouldn't be noticed if someone didn't point it out.elcoholic

I keep hearing that. I don't know if i should just call you a liar or if there's somehow a difference in how certain 360's run this game. I can guarantee you on my 360 the framerate is very unstable, especially in the citadel (stutters everytime you take a corner) and when there's alot of action it nearly halts. The texture popup is the wost I've ever seen on the 360, very noticable when you talk to the councel through the holographic projectors (the white lines on their clothes appear like a second too late. Its noticble in almost every cutscene. I can't understand how some people can say its barely noticable. I normally don't notice flaws pointed out by people (didn't see any in Gears for example) but this game is just filled to the brim with em.

The only thing i can say about that is maybe you should clear your cache, because your problems sound alot worse than mine. If you don't know how, look it up because it really helped me with big games like Oblivion and Bioshock. If that doesn't work, idk, maybe your disc is scratched.

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#67 Oscar-Wilde
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Mass effect is a flop in every sense of the word, hell it's almost AA in gamerankings (92.2%). But that doesn't stop it from being the best game I have played this generation.

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The real reason GS gave it such a low score was because they were dissapointed that it was just another shooter with RPG elements and a conversation system. Its an amazing AAA game but it wasn't really an RPG at all.meetroid8


The Wii is just a Gamecube with a Power Glove.

See how being so wrong can make you look like an utter idiot ?

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]I'm about 5 hours in and I'm extremely impressed by the quality and production values of this game. all of its technical issues are blown way out of proportion. like people searching to find flaws...because most wouldn't be noticed if someone didn't point it out.elcoholic

I keep hearing that. I don't know if i should just call you a liar or if there's somehow a difference in how certain 360's run this game. I can guarantee you on my 360 the framerate is very unstable, especially in the citadel (stutters everytime you take a corner) and when there's alot of action it nearly halts. The texture popup is the wost I've ever seen on the 360, very noticable when you talk to the councel through the holographic projectors (the white lines on their clothes appear like a second too late. Its noticble in almost every cutscene. I can't understand how some people can say its barely noticable. I normally don't notice flaws pointed out by people (didn't see any in Gears for example) but this game is just filled to the brim with em.

I agree with Dreams-Visions, and I am already about 20 hours in on my second playthrough! I have yet to see these major technical issues people are talking about, and I have yet to get stuck anywhere that I had to go and reload.

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]I'm about 5 hours in and I'm extremely impressed by the quality and production values of this game. all of its technical issues are blown way out of proportion. like people searching to find flaws...because most wouldn't be noticed if someone didn't point it out.elcoholic

I keep hearing that. I don't know if i should just call you a liar or if there's somehow a difference in how certain 360's run this game. I can guarantee you on my 360 the framerate is very unstable, especially in the citadel (stutters everytime you take a corner) and when there's alot of action it nearly halts. The texture popup is the wost I've ever seen on the 360, very noticable when you talk to the councel through the holographic projectors (the white lines on their clothes appear like a second too late. Its noticble in almost every cutscene. I can't understand how some people can say its barely noticable. I normally don't notice flaws pointed out by people (didn't see any in Gears for example) but this game is just filled to the brim with em.

sounds like an issue with something on your box, bro. I see the ocassional studder, but neither my brother nor I have stopped to say, "man...that framerate is rough..." It's certainly smoother than KoTOR. Idunno, maybe my expectations were for something with KoTOR's smoothness, and I've thus found myself content with a game that is a bit smoother than that. The very rare pop-in textures are also pretty rare for me.

And really, if your only issue is somewhat irregular framerates, you're not suffering much. You did buy a Bioware RPG, after all.

Maybe if I went in expecting 60fps rock solid I'd be more disappointed.

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[QUOTE="elcoholic"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]I'm about 5 hours in and I'm extremely impressed by the quality and production values of this game. all of its technical issues are blown way out of proportion. like people searching to find flaws...because most wouldn't be noticed if someone didn't point it out.JediRiff

I keep hearing that. I don't know if i should just call you a liar or if there's somehow a difference in how certain 360's run this game. I can guarantee you on my 360 the framerate is very unstable, especially in the citadel (stutters everytime you take a corner) and when there's alot of action it nearly halts. The texture popup is the wost I've ever seen on the 360, very noticable when you talk to the councel through the holographic projectors (the white lines on their clothes appear like a second too late. Its noticble in almost every cutscene. I can't understand how some people can say its barely noticable. I normally don't notice flaws pointed out by people (didn't see any in Gears for example) but this game is just filled to the brim with em.

I agree with Dreams-Visions, and I am already about 20 hours in on my second playthrough! I have yet to see these major technical issues people are talking about, and I have yet to get stuck anywhere that I had to go and reload.

I've experienced many issues, mostly during combat. It takes me out of the experience alot. Either you two are lying or don't let technical issues bother you :?. Almost every review have stated these problems.

- Pop ins are pretty rare
- Framerate during combat drops about 30-35% of the time for me and hitches here and there while exploring.

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For the love of God....... GET OVER IT MAN!
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[QUOTE="JediRiff"][QUOTE="elcoholic"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]I'm about 5 hours in and I'm extremely impressed by the quality and production values of this game. all of its technical issues are blown way out of proportion. like people searching to find flaws...because most wouldn't be noticed if someone didn't point it out.TREAL_Since

I keep hearing that. I don't know if i should just call you a liar or if there's somehow a difference in how certain 360's run this game. I can guarantee you on my 360 the framerate is very unstable, especially in the citadel (stutters everytime you take a corner) and when there's alot of action it nearly halts. The texture popup is the wost I've ever seen on the 360, very noticable when you talk to the councel through the holographic projectors (the white lines on their clothes appear like a second too late. Its noticble in almost every cutscene. I can't understand how some people can say its barely noticable. I normally don't notice flaws pointed out by people (didn't see any in Gears for example) but this game is just filled to the brim with em.

I agree with Dreams-Visions, and I am already about 20 hours in on my second playthrough! I have yet to see these major technical issues people are talking about, and I have yet to get stuck anywhere that I had to go and reload.

I've experienced many issues, mostly during combat. It takes me out of the experience alot. Either you two are lying or don't let technical issues bother you :?. Almost every review have stated these problems.

Hmm...sorry to hear that. I'm simply not having significant issues. In fact, the only real issue i'm having right now is my accuracy with that sniper rifle. moves around so much...

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#75 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="JediRiff"][QUOTE="elcoholic"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]I'm about 5 hours in and I'm extremely impressed by the quality and production values of this game. all of its technical issues are blown way out of proportion. like people searching to find flaws...because most wouldn't be noticed if someone didn't point it out.Dreams-Visions

I keep hearing that. I don't know if i should just call you a liar or if there's somehow a difference in how certain 360's run this game. I can guarantee you on my 360 the framerate is very unstable, especially in the citadel (stutters everytime you take a corner) and when there's alot of action it nearly halts. The texture popup is the wost I've ever seen on the 360, very noticable when you talk to the councel through the holographic projectors (the white lines on their clothes appear like a second too late. Its noticble in almost every cutscene. I can't understand how some people can say its barely noticable. I normally don't notice flaws pointed out by people (didn't see any in Gears for example) but this game is just filled to the brim with em.

I agree with Dreams-Visions, and I am already about 20 hours in on my second playthrough! I have yet to see these major technical issues people are talking about, and I have yet to get stuck anywhere that I had to go and reload.

I've experienced many issues, mostly during combat. It takes me out of the experience alot. Either you two are lying or don't let technical issues bother you :?. Almost every review have stated these problems.

Hmm...sorry to hear that. I'm simply not having significant issues. In fact, the only real issue i'm having right now is my accuracy with that sniper rifle. moves around so much...

It's not THAT big of a deal though. Most of my time is spent doing sidequests. The story and dialogue kind of make up for it. I'm hoping the sequal will be better though. There is so much potential as far as combat goes.

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#76 Dreams-Visions
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- Pop ins are pretty rare
- Framerate during combat drops about 30-35% of the time for me and hitches here and there while exploring.

TREAL_Since

Did you ever play KoTOR?

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#77 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="XanderZane"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

Uncharted was hyped AA bud. Heavenly sword was a flop. Replace Uncharted with Lair which was a nasty flop.

TREAL_Since

Uncharted got an "A 8.0"bud, so yes it flopped as well.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/uncharteddrakesfortune/review.html?sid=6183147

LOL 8.0 is AA and that's what it received. AA = 8.0-8.5

And mocking me wasn't necessary. I didn't mean "bud" in a bad way :|.

Where did he go? He said Uncharted Flopped, right? *Rereads*

Where is he?

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#78 hazuki87
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The broken inventory system was an even bigger problem than the technical issues. 9.0 wouls work for me.
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#79 TREAL_Since
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- Pop ins are pretty rare
- Framerate during combat drops about 30-35% of the time for me and hitches here and there while exploring.

Dreams-Visions

Did you ever play KoTOR?

On PC AFTER the patch that fixed most the framerate issues. Then I borrowed it for the XBOX from a friend and noticed that the framerate was noticeably worse.

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#80 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="XanderZane"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

Uncharted was hyped AA bud. Heavenly sword was a flop. Replace Uncharted with Lair which was a nasty flop.

SolidTy

Uncharted got an "A 8.0"bud, so yes it flopped as well.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/uncharteddrakesfortune/review.html?sid=6183147

LOL 8.0 is AA and that's what it received. AA = 8.0-8.5

And mocking me wasn't necessary. I didn't mean "bud" in a bad way :|.

Where did he go? He said Uncharted Flopped, right? *Rereads*

Where is he?

Yeah... He was highly mistaken. But I give him the benefit of the doubt. He most likely did not understand the GS review system.

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#81 KingOfKonging
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Mass effect is a flop in every sense of the word, hell it's almost AA in gamerankings (92.2%). But that doesn't stop it from being the best game I have played this generation.

Oscar-Wilde

On GR, above a 92 isn't anywhere near being a AA.

It would take a lot of very low socres to bring that below 90. 90.0 - 90.4 is "close" to being a AA on GR.

I also agree it's one of the best games I've played in years. It's a AAA book in my opinion, but I recognize my opinion is only worth a damn to myself, it means nothing in the context of this site.

That being said, it is a "flop" here. No big deal, doesn't bother me. That's how this site works, stuff like this is what makes System Wars worth reading. Big games flopping makes it exciting.

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#82 KingOfKonging
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[QUOTE="elcoholic"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]I'm about 5 hours in and I'm extremely impressed by the quality and production values of this game. all of its technical issues are blown way out of proportion. like people searching to find flaws...because most wouldn't be noticed if someone didn't point it out.JediRiff

I keep hearing that. I don't know if i should just call you a liar or if there's somehow a difference in how certain 360's run this game. I can guarantee you on my 360 the framerate is very unstable, especially in the citadel (stutters everytime you take a corner) and when there's alot of action it nearly halts. The texture popup is the wost I've ever seen on the 360, very noticable when you talk to the councel through the holographic projectors (the white lines on their clothes appear like a second too late. Its noticble in almost every cutscene. I can't understand how some people can say its barely noticable. I normally don't notice flaws pointed out by people (didn't see any in Gears for example) but this game is just filled to the brim with em.

I agree with Dreams-Visions, and I am already about 20 hours in on my second playthrough! I have yet to see these major technical issues people are talking about, and I have yet to get stuck anywhere that I had to go and reload.

Yep.

I get plenty of texture pop here and then, some framerate stutter.... but absolutely not stuttering every time I run around a corner in the Citadel, and definitely not "When there's a lot of action it nearly halts." I haven't had that at all. Those who know BioWare and are familiar with games like KotoR should be right at home with it, and I find it much smoother than KotoR. It really isn't a big distraction on my end, it's fine.

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#83 Oscar-Wilde
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[QUOTE="Oscar-Wilde"]

Mass effect is a flop in every sense of the word, hell it's almost AA in gamerankings (92.2%). But that doesn't stop it from being the best game I have played this generation.

KingOfKonging

On GR, above a 92 isn't anywhere near being a AA.

It would take a lot of very low socres to bring that below 90. 90.0 - 90.4 is "close" to being a AA on GR.

I also agree it's one of the best games I've played in years. It's a AAA book in my opinion, but I recognize my opinion is only worth a damn to myself, it means nothing in the context of this site.

That being said, it is a "flop" here. No big deal, doesn't bother me. That's how this site works, stuff like this is what makes System Wars worth reading.

Mass Effect was only released a month ago, it will lower, trust me, now will it lower to AA status? I doubt it.

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#84 KingOfKonging
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[QUOTE="KingOfKonging"][QUOTE="Oscar-Wilde"]

Mass effect is a flop in every sense of the word, hell it's almost AA in gamerankings (92.2%). But that doesn't stop it from being the best game I have played this generation.

Oscar-Wilde

On GR, above a 92 isn't anywhere near being a AA.

It would take a lot of very low socres to bring that below 90. 90.0 - 90.4 is "close" to being a AA on GR.

I also agree it's one of the best games I've played in years. It's a AAA book in my opinion, but I recognize my opinion is only worth a damn to myself, it means nothing in the context of this site.

That being said, it is a "flop" here. No big deal, doesn't bother me. That's how this site works, stuff like this is what makes System Wars worth reading.

Mass Effect was only released a month ago, it will lower, trust me, now will it lower to AA status? I doubt it.

Not really, the vast majority of reviews are already in.

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#85 Oscar-Wilde
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[QUOTE="Oscar-Wilde"][QUOTE="KingOfKonging"][QUOTE="Oscar-Wilde"]

Mass effect is a flop in every sense of the word, hell it's almost AA in gamerankings (92.2%). But that doesn't stop it from being the best game I have played this generation.

KingOfKonging

On GR, above a 92 isn't anywhere near being a AA.

It would take a lot of very low socres to bring that below 90. 90.0 - 90.4 is "close" to being a AA on GR.

I also agree it's one of the best games I've played in years. It's a AAA book in my opinion, but I recognize my opinion is only worth a damn to myself, it means nothing in the context of this site.

That being said, it is a "flop" here. No big deal, doesn't bother me. That's how this site works, stuff like this is what makes System Wars worth reading.

Mass Effect was only released a month ago, it will lower, trust me, now will it lower to AA status? I doubt it.

Not really, the vast majority of reviews are already in.

It only takes a 7 from some unknown site to throw a average out of wack, anyway this is pointless to discuss since it doesn'tr eally matter what it gets. It's still one of the best game the Xbox 360 have to offer.

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#86 slduncanlaw
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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="JediRiff"][QUOTE="elcoholic"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]I'm about 5 hours in and I'm extremely impressed by the quality and production values of this game. all of its technical issues are blown way out of proportion. like people searching to find flaws...because most wouldn't be noticed if someone didn't point it out.Dreams-Visions

I keep hearing that. I don't know if i should just call you a liar or if there's somehow a difference in how certain 360's run this game. I can guarantee you on my 360 the framerate is very unstable, especially in the citadel (stutters everytime you take a corner) and when there's alot of action it nearly halts. The texture popup is the wost I've ever seen on the 360, very noticable when you talk to the councel through the holographic projectors (the white lines on their clothes appear like a second too late. Its noticble in almost every cutscene. I can't understand how some people can say its barely noticable. I normally don't notice flaws pointed out by people (didn't see any in Gears for example) but this game is just filled to the brim with em.

I agree with Dreams-Visions, and I am already about 20 hours in on my second playthrough! I have yet to see these major technical issues people are talking about, and I have yet to get stuck anywhere that I had to go and reload.

I've experienced many issues, mostly during combat. It takes me out of the experience alot. Either you two are lying or don't let technical issues bother you :?. Almost every review have stated these problems.

Hmm...sorry to hear that. I'm simply not having significant issues. In fact, the only real issue i'm having right now is my accuracy with that sniper rifle. moves around so much...

I actually get the same severity of problems that elchoholic gets. Itdetracts a little from the game, but I'm still loving it. The story so far is amazing. Gameplay is great to, but I'm still trying to figure out how to be good at it. I'm not much of an RPG guy and I'm tempted to just run at enemies with gun blazing. I die a lot, by the way.

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#87 brightshadow525
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People still pay attention to Gamespot scores?
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Should we do what lemmings did to sheep and cows when they defended their games and lemmings laughed at and ridiculed them without remorse? Nah, that would be trolling. Still amusing how "Only GameSpot counts!" doesn't seem to exist anymore after lemmings received their own little disparity. It's only one, however. Imagine if they got crap GameSpot reviews left and right like sheep and cows do!
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Get over it already lems!!! 8.5 flop
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#90 Fuzzy_Munch
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Mass Effect isn't a 9.5 game. Not even close. In fact, Mass Effect isn't an 8.5 game either. It's probably more like an 8. Great writing, great voice acting, good graphics. Now the bad... broken inventory system, extremely average combat system, fundamentally broken planet exploration (driving the Mako is absolute crap... it's nearly outclassed by Big Rigs), unstable framerate, serious graphical artifacting issues (improper shadows, texture pop-in, etc)... It's worth it to play this for the story. But pretty much all of the *gameplay* elements in Mass Effect are garbage. It's an utter failure as a *game*.ReverieDLM

ROFFFFFFFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL:o

Are you for real man? Broken Inventory? whats broken? I use it just fine. AVE, combat are you freaking KIDDING ME:roll: This is by far the best REALTIME RPG combat EVER created. Go tell FF developers to take a page from Bioware on this.

GEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZ You joking right?

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If you play ME for the game the way it is meant to be played "EXPLORATION" Not just a quick run through the story missions And make lame mistakes by saying the Rover aim sight does not work:roll: HOW LAME of a review.

Truly this game would be a 10 if the little tech flaws were not there. That being said you take .5 for that and it is 9.5 PERIOD

Not 8.5

7min abbs wait like 6 min abs. NO 7MIN ABS:lol:

Geezzz 8.5 are you kidding me pass the lazy pipe.

Fuzzy_Munch

All I heard was "waaaaaaah it floppedzed!! waaaaaaaah excuses excuses!!"

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Should we do what lemmings did to sheep and cows when they defended their games and lemmings laughed at and ridiculed them without remorse? Nah, that would be trolling. Still amusing how "Only GameSpot counts!" doesn't seem to exist anymore after lemmings received their own little disparity. It's only one, however. Imagine if they got crap GameSpot reviews left and right like sheep and cows do! Hexagon_777

I didnt partake in that, however, its a moot point now. You are right, Gamespot reviews DONT matter anymore. That includes the reviews that you question for your console as well. In my eyes, good or bad, all the reviews are tainted, and I will not be trusting the Gamespot reviews anymore.

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Weren't there other complaints on the A.I., inventory menu, and the combat controls as well? Not saying it's a bad game since I've never played it yet but reading the critics' reviews, there were some other problems besides the graphical issues.

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#94 inoperativeRS
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For me Mass Effect is my clear GOTY, and that's saying something in a year like this.

I still think Gamespot did the right thing in not turning a blind eye on all the technical flaws it has. I am extremely tolerable towards technical problems but for someone that isn't I'm sure they could ruin the whole experience. That said, the game is amazing and much better than I had ever anticipated.

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#95 inoperativeRS
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Weren't there other complaints on the A.I., inventory menu, and the combat controls as well? Not saying it's a bad game since I've never played it yet but reading the critics' reviews, there were some other problems besides the graphical issues.

leviathan91

The inventory is annoying, yes, but I was actually positively surprised by the AI and controls. I expected both to be subpar to average, but they work very well.

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Well I guess it depends on the person. Technical flaws like texture pop in, pop-up, and unstable frame-rates kill a game for me. I like my games really polished.Zerostatic0
gears has all that and yet scored a 9.6. this site is trash when it comes to reviews, thats all there is to it.
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]Should we do what lemmings did to sheep and cows when they defended their games and lemmings laughed at and ridiculed them without remorse? Nah, that would be trolling. Still amusing how "Only GameSpot counts!" doesn't seem to exist anymore after lemmings received their own little disparity. It's only one, however. Imagine if they got crap GameSpot reviews left and right like sheep and cows do! JediRiff

I didnt partake in that, however, its a moot point now. You are right, Gamespot reviews DONT matter anymore. That includes the reviews that you question for your console as well. In my eyes, good or bad, all the reviews are tainted, and I will not be trusting the Gamespot reviews anymore.

I didn't keep a list of all the lemmings that kept spouting that crap and now state the same points that sheep and cows did, so yea, I can't go against anyone individually. It's just common knowledge that numerous lemmings did in fact say that and now we have copious lemmings whining about the score. I guess it's good that GameSpot finally flopped a major lemming game as well so that we can all agree on how silly it was to just listen to GameSpot, though. It's great that you guys have finally seen the light.

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#98 gamenux
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FLOP games are fun.
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#99 leviathan91
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[QUOTE="Zerostatic0"]Well I guess it depends on the person. Technical flaws like texture pop in, pop-up, and unstable frame-rates kill a game for me. I like my games really polished.ninjaxams
gears has all that and yet scored a 9.6. this site is trash when it comes to reviews, thats all there is to it.

From what I remember, Gears on the 360 only had 3 second texture popups that only happened during the beginning of a stage.

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#100 Derek240
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[QUOTE="ReverieDLM"]Mass Effect isn't a 9.5 game. Not even close. In fact, Mass Effect isn't an 8.5 game either. It's probably more like an 8. Great writing, great voice acting, good graphics. Now the bad... broken inventory system, extremely average combat system, fundamentally broken planet exploration (driving the Mako is absolute crap... it's nearly outclassed by Big Rigs), unstable framerate, serious graphical artifacting issues (improper shadows, texture pop-in, etc)... It's worth it to play this for the story. But pretty much all of the *gameplay* elements in Mass Effect are garbage. It's an utter failure as a *game*.Fuzzy_Munch

ROFFFFFFFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL:o

Are you for real man? Broken Inventory? whats broken? I use it just fine. AVE, combat are you freaking KIDDING ME:roll: This is by far the best REALTIME RPG combat EVER created. Go tell FF developers to take a page from Bioware on this.

GEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZ You joking right?

Fuzzy, I hope you are joking with those statements...