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#1 patrickjw333
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the review for Halo 3 was wrong because they are basically the same game 1 without master chief.

just a thought

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#2 SolidTy
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Actually, Devs and Publishers can't keep making the same game without innovations within the series and EXPECT to get great scores from the majority of reviewers.

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Also, the game isn't out, so you don't even know if ODST plays exactly the same. It's relative, but still, wait till you play it.

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#3 -DrRobotnik-
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No, if it flops it will be because of value. My god, will you guys ever get over Halo 3? Its been two years, just drop it already :roll:
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#4 h575309
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Nice try, but no.

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#5 onewiththegame
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didn't you make the same topic a few weeks ago??? and cows really need to stop crying over halo its getting real sad

Halo is stupid.......but we are still talking about it after 2 years

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#6 wayne_kar
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didn't you make the same topic a few weeks ago??? and cows really need to stop crying over halo its getting real sad

Halo is stupid.......but we are still talking about it after 2 years

onewiththegame
i know... they'll never get over that 9.5.
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#7 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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It's called giving the consumers what they want, more of a good product. I've never been a big fan of the Halo series (just played CE) but it obviously has a large audience. I'm sure ODST will be worth it. What does it matter the score if Halo fans will buy it?

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#8 kaealy
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the review for Halo 3 was wrong because they are basically the same game 1 without master chief.

just a thought

patrickjw333

The whole game is very different from Halo 3, so no it won't prove anything besides that the reviwers didn't like the changes to the series.

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#9 onewiththegame
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[QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

didn't you make the same topic a few weeks ago??? and cows really need to stop crying over halo its getting real sad

Halo is stupid.......but we are still talking about it after 2 years

wayne_kar

i know... they'll never get over that 9.5.

only .5 off what the godly MGS got.......but Halo sucks

and I'm not bashing MGS its one of the best games this gen along with Halo3 and a few others

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#10 PAL360
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The reviwe of Halo3 was wrong?? :|

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#11 Cherokee_Jack
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the review for Halo 3 was wrong because they are basically the same game 1 without master chief.

just a thought

patrickjw333
No. 1. Reviews are not written in a vacuum, so reviewers take into account what the previous games in the series were like. 2. It's not the same game.
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#12 BodyElite
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the review for Halo 3 was wrong because they are basically the same game 1 without master chief.

just a thought

patrickjw333

Halo 3 is 2 years old... H3 was a 9.5 during its time. After H3, many FPS's came out that innovated the genre. COD4 with its sprinting, unlockables, etc, KZ2 with its graphics. ODST is only a Halo 3 expansion, meaning its what oyu said. Halo 3 but playing as a different character. Dont expect anything above a 9.0 from this game. Wait for Reach ;)

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#13 dommeus
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the review for Halo 3 was wrong because they are basically the same game 1 without master chief.

just a thought

patrickjw333

Except Halo 3 came out 2 years ago...

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#14 -DrRobotnik-
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[QUOTE="patrickjw333"]

the review for Halo 3 was wrong because they are basically the same game 1 without master chief.

just a thought

BodyElite

Halo 3 is 2 years old... H3 was a 9.5 during its time. After H3, many FPS's came out that innovated the genre. COD4 with its sprinting, unlockables, etc, KZ2 with its graphics. ODST is only a Halo 3 expansion, meaning its what oyu said. Halo 3 but playing as a different character. Dont expect anything above a 9.0 from this game. Wait for Reach ;)

Killzone innovated the FPS genre with its graphics?
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#15 Lantern-Cusp
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I dont understand the hype for halo games, the only one i liked was the first one. I dont own a 360, but alot of my friends do and i watch them play that boring crap sometimes. It seems like people just buy the name and dont even care if its actually good.....kind of like gucci or something.

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#16 madsnakehhh
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Nop, if ODST flops would only mean that the game is bad or not as good to get a nice score.

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#18 ThePRAssassin
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Since when was Halo 3open-world?

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#19 onewiththegame
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I dont understand the hype for halo games, the only one i liked was the first one. I dont own a 360, but alot of my friends do and i watch them play that boring crap sometimes. It seems like people just buy the name and dont even care if its actually good.....kind of like gucci or something.

Lantern-Cusp

i guess it getting AAA EVERYWHERE speaks nothing of its quality right?

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#20 h575309
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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"][QUOTE="BodyElite"]

Halo 3 is 2 years old... H3 was a 9.5 during its time. After H3, many FPS's came out that innovated the genre. COD4 with its sprinting, unlockables, etc, KZ2 with its graphics. ODST is only a Halo 3 expansion, meaning its what oyu said. Halo 3 but playing as a different character. Dont expect anything above a 9.0 from this game. Wait for Reach ;)

wakano

Killzone innovated the FPS genre with its graphics?

it innovated it with cover system that DOESNT EVEN WORK, but probably the only argument cows can use -.-

Yea, it didnt innovate anything. It was purty, and fun while it lasted, but overall its a an above average fps. Not great, just good I suppose.

ODST wont be innovating the genre either, but it is a lot of content, and alot of fun im sure.

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#21 onewiththegame
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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"][QUOTE="BodyElite"]

Halo 3 is 2 years old... H3 was a 9.5 during its time. After H3, many FPS's came out that innovated the genre. COD4 with its sprinting, unlockables, etc, KZ2 with its graphics. ODST is only a Halo 3 expansion, meaning its what oyu said. Halo 3 but playing as a different character. Dont expect anything above a 9.0 from this game. Wait for Reach ;)

wakano

Killzone innovated the FPS genre with its graphics?

it innovated it with cover system that DOESNT EVEN WORK, but probably the only argument cows can use -.-

kilzone wasn't even the first FPS this gen to use cover that would be MOH: airborn

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#23 darthogre
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[QUOTE="patrickjw333"]

the review for Halo 3 was wrong because they are basically the same game 1 without master chief.

just a thought

well Halo 3 is two years old so I would expect it to get a lower score. The same thing can be said about PDZ.....of course if it released a year later there is no way in hell it would have got AAA.
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#24 tupapi006
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Cows don´t like halo because its better than every game they have in the market:)

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#25 tupapi006
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[QUOTE="patrickjw333"]

the review for Halo 3 was wrong because they are basically the same game 1 without master chief.

just a thought

darthogre

well Halo 3 is two years old so I would expect it to get a lower score. The same thing can be said about PDZ.....of course if it released a year later there is no way in hell it would have got AAA.

PDZ was super overhyped by the time it was out

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#26 rogelio22
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well if it scores less than KZ2 it will finally prove KZ2 >> halo series:o and lems can finally stop saying KZ2 is garbage

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#27 -DrRobotnik-
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well if it scores less than KZ2 it will finally prove KZ2 >> halo series:o and lems can finally stop saying KZ2 is garbage

rogelio22
Yes, if ODST score lower then Killzone 2, that automagically makes Killzone 2 better than the entire Halo series. That makes bucket loads of sense.
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#28 Irve
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I love this stuff , i really do.

why do cows care if a game they don't want to play is good or not ?

ODST will be an average FPS .. it'll be enjoyed by anyone who buys it and it'll get ok reviews of 7 or 8 ... and all the PS3 fanboys will should Halo sux and everything will go on like before and the 360 fanboys can complain that Uncharted 2 has rubbish AI and a rubbish cover system.

BLAH BLAH BLAH

just enjoy what you've got and don't rain on other people's parade

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#29 jg4xchamp
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well if it scores less than KZ2 it will finally prove KZ2 >> halo series:o and lems can finally stop saying KZ2 is garbage

rogelio22
not in one way....beating out an expansion isn't saying much now is it.
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#30 DarkGamer007
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[QUOTE="patrickjw333"]

the review for Halo 3 was wrong because they are basically the same game 1 without master chief.

just a thought

BodyElite

Halo 3 is 2 years old... H3 was a 9.5 during its time. After H3, many FPS's came out that innovated the genre. COD4 with its sprinting, unlockables, etc, KZ2 with its graphics. ODST is only a Halo 3 expansion, meaning its what oyu said. Halo 3 but playing as a different character. Dont expect anything above a 9.0 from this game. Wait for Reach ;)

I'm sorry did you just say that Call of Duty 4 innovated the genre with sprinting and unlockables. :? Plenty of games have done both better way before Call of Duty. :|

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#31 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="h575309"]

[QUOTE="wakano"] it innovated it with cover system that DOESNT EVEN WORK, but probably the only argument cows can use -.-wakano

Yea, it didnt innovate anything. It was purty, and fun while it lasted, but overall its a an above average fps. Not great, just good I suppose.

ODST wont be innovating the genre either, but it is a lot of content, and alot of fun im sure.

thats pretty much what it will be, not innovating, but it will offer a lot of content, and MP with all the maps=epic win i can assure, just the price tag would have been a little bit lower

Try lack of content. it's a complete slap in the face to the Halo 3 fans who purchased all those map packs. They are essentially getting a 5 hour campaign, and Halo Horde...oh and 3 maps for 60 bucks :|. Thats no where near the amount of new content that Halo 3 shipped with....that was one of the best aspects of Halo 3...you actually got your moneys worth...I can't say that about ODST.
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#32 mythrol
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ODST is being hyped AA around here? You honestly think that it's not going to get at least an 8.0?
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ODST is being hyped AA around here? You honestly think that it's not going to get at least an 8.0?mythrol
it can easily get a 7.5 and just be considered good for -being 4-5 hours long -having no matchmaking for Fire Fight -for being the same competitive MP that people allready played in Halo 3 and if the game just doesn't wow them with its gameplay it will be more than enough to drop the game to a 7.5
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#35 DarkGamer007
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[QUOTE="mythrol"]ODST is being hyped AA around here? You honestly think that it's not going to get at least an 8.0?jg4xchamp
it can easily get a 7.5 and just be considered good for -being 4-5 hours long -having no matchmaking for Fire Fight -for being the same competitive MP that people allready played in Halo 3 and if the game just doesn't wow them with its gameplay it will be more than enough to drop the game to a 7.5

Bungie said the campaign was 8 to 10 hours, not 4 to 5.

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#36 Misirius
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[QUOTE="mythrol"]ODST is being hyped AA around here? You honestly think that it's not going to get at least an 8.0?jg4xchamp
it can easily get a 7.5 and just be considered good for -being 4-5 hours long -having no matchmaking for Fire Fight -for being the same competitive MP that people allready played in Halo 3 and if the game just doesn't wow them with its gameplay it will be more than enough to drop the game to a 7.5

I dont know where you getting it being 4-5.

That was said when info first came out. When it was only a Expansion. That has changed. It is bigger and longer than before.

So you have no point.

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#37 mythrol
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[QUOTE="mythrol"]ODST is being hyped AA around here? You honestly think that it's not going to get at least an 8.0?jg4xchamp
it can easily get a 7.5 and just be considered good for -being 4-5 hours long -having no matchmaking for Fire Fight -for being the same competitive MP that people allready played in Halo 3 and if the game just doesn't wow them with its gameplay it will be more than enough to drop the game to a 7.5

I thought ODST was said to be 8 - 10 hours long? Where are people getting 4 - 5?
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#38 jg4xchamp
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The Youtube playthrough....dude beat the game(the main storyline stuff without going for audio files and stuff) under 4 hours. So I'm guessing even on Heroic or Legendary assuming you are good at Halo or shooters in general it will be what 6 hours max?
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#39 djestar
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What does it matter? You can easily argue that if ODST scores less than AAA that proves that Halo Bungie games do not automatically get AAA. Therefore the other Halo games are true AAA titles. Whereas if ODST does score AAA you could argue all Halo games are overrated and score AAA.
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The Youtube playthrough....dude beat the game(the main storyline stuff without going for audio files and stuff) under 4 hours. So I'm guessing even on Heroic or Legendary assuming you are good at Halo or shooters in general it will be what 6 hours max?jg4xchamp
Care for the game to officially release before believing a leaked unfinished french version of the game?
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]The Youtube playthrough....dude beat the game(the main storyline stuff without going for audio files and stuff) under 4 hours. So I'm guessing even on Heroic or Legendary assuming you are good at Halo or shooters in general it will be what 6 hours max?mythrol
Care for the game to officially release before believing a leaked unfinished french version of the game?

sure but even then I have my issue with this expansion being charged like a full retail game. When a good chunk of the content(the entire 2nd disc) has been out long before ODST even released(all be it ODST adds 3 maps to it).
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[QUOTE="patrickjw333"]

the review for Halo 3 was wrong because they are basically the same game 1 without master chief.

just a thought

Looks like people are getting really desperate.
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The Youtube playthrough....dude beat the game(the main storyline stuff without going for audio files and stuff) under 4 hours. So I'm guessing even on Heroic or Legendary assuming you are good at Halo or shooters in general it will be what 6 hours max?jg4xchamp
so what your saying is the guy ran through the game? same can be said for fallout 3, you can complet that game in 2 hours if you run through it so your point is null....
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#44 Floppy_Jim
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They're nowhere near the same game (aside from multiplayer).
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#45 mythrol
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[QUOTE="mythrol"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]The Youtube playthrough....dude beat the game(the main storyline stuff without going for audio files and stuff) under 4 hours. So I'm guessing even on Heroic or Legendary assuming you are good at Halo or shooters in general it will be what 6 hours max?jg4xchamp
Care for the game to officially release before believing a leaked unfinished french version of the game?

sure but even then I have my issue with this expansion being charged like a full retail game. When a good chunk of the content(the entire 2nd disc) has been out long before ODST even released(all be it ODST adds 3 maps to it).

It's not an expansion.
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#46 Ontain
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no. because new games are always judged based on previous so if ODST is exactly the same as halo3 it naturally wouldn't score as well.
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[QUOTE="mythrol"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="mythrol"] Care for the game to officially release before believing a leaked unfinished french version of the game?

sure but even then I have my issue with this expansion being charged like a full retail game. When a good chunk of the content(the entire 2nd disc) has been out long before ODST even released(all be it ODST adds 3 maps to it).

It's not an expansion.

Lets see Bridges the storyline between Halo 2 and 3. Generally same mechanics, probably a shorter game than Halo 3 THe same EXACT multiplayer as Halo 3 Adds nothing new other than fire ffight and 2 weapons I guess. Its a new Halo type experience sure, but it is essentially an expansion and always was one since day one. It offers pretty much what Crysis Warhead did(another stand alone expansion) that was actually priced properly like an expansion.
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#48 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]The Youtube playthrough....dude beat the game(the main storyline stuff without going for audio files and stuff) under 4 hours. So I'm guessing even on Heroic or Legendary assuming you are good at Halo or shooters in general it will be what 6 hours max?ComBaTsOuL
so what your saying is the guy ran through the game? same can be said for fallout 3, you can complet that game in 2 hours if you run through it so your point is null....

differentce Fallout 3 still has alot more to offer in the exploring department being a RPG....Halo 3: ODST maybe open world, but it's a city with essentially no life....and so far about the only thing you can explore for is some audio files(according to the IGN hands on). There isn't exactly much to do outside the main action of the game.
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#49 cowgriller
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[QUOTE="patrickjw333"]

the review for Halo 3 was wrong because they are basically the same game 1 without master chief.

just a thought

BodyElite

Halo 3 is 2 years old... H3 was a 9.5 during its time. After H3, many FPS's came out that innovated the genre. COD4 with its sprinting, unlockables, etc, KZ2 with its graphics. ODST is only a Halo 3 expansion, meaning its what oyu said. Halo 3 but playing as a different character. Dont expect anything above a 9.0 from this game. Wait for Reach ;)

this post is total fail.

first, many fps's have sprinting and unlockables. how is this an innovation anyway? hell games have had running and unlockables for 20 years.

second, killzone 2's graphics didn't innovate anything. GG just made a generic shooter that looked good. that's not innovative. that's just making a good looking game.

third, how many times do the devs and publishers have to say it? Halo 3: ODST is a FULL GAME. it has an 8 hour campaign ( a length that is on par with most games this gen). it has a story of it's own, not merely expanding on the one from halo 3. hell this take place before halo 3.

if this game gets a 9, then it lives up to the halo hype machine. if it gets a 9.5 or 10(doubtful), then it just lends further proof that you have absolutely no idea what in the hell you're talking about.

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#50 MortalDecay
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[QUOTE="mythrol"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] sure but even then I have my issue with this expansion being charged like a full retail game. When a good chunk of the content(the entire 2nd disc) has been out long before ODST even released(all be it ODST adds 3 maps to it). jg4xchamp
It's not an expansion.

Lets see Bridges the storyline between Halo 2 and 3. Generally same mechanics, probably a shorter game than Halo 3 THe same EXACT multiplayer as Halo 3 Adds nothing new other than fire ffight and 2 weapons I guess. Its a new Halo type experience sure, but it is essentially an expansion and always was one since day one. It offers pretty much what Crysis Warhead did(another stand alone expansion) that was actually priced properly like an expansion.

Nit pick all you want, ODST isn't an expansion. If ODST is an exansion, then I feel for everyone that bought Heavenly Sword...It's was nothing more than an over-priced PSN arcade game.