if ODST flops wont it prove that.....

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#51 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="mythrol"] It's not an expansion. MortalDecay
Lets see Bridges the storyline between Halo 2 and 3. Generally same mechanics, probably a shorter game than Halo 3 THe same EXACT multiplayer as Halo 3 Adds nothing new other than fire ffight and 2 weapons I guess. Its a new Halo type experience sure, but it is essentially an expansion and always was one since day one. It offers pretty much what Crysis Warhead did(another stand alone expansion) that was actually priced properly like an expansion.

Nit pick all you want, ODST isn't an expansion. If ODST is an exansion, then I feel for everyone that bought Heavenly Sword...It's was nothing more than an over-priced PSN arcade game.

I didnt buy HS, or Madworld at full retail for being short. and how is ODST not an expansion? does it change the gameplay dramatically? Not really its essentially the same health system, movement speed, jumping distance as Halo: CE. The narrative is essentially filler for the universe all be it an intriguing one. I don't question the games quality, I question it being worth 60 bucks with so many other options in the holiday stretch and god knows how many options coming up next year.
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#52 shadow_hosi
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how would that prove the halo 3 review wrong excatly?
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#53 BioShockOwnz
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the review for Halo 3 was wrong because they are basically the same game 1 without master chief.

just a thought

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Now Halo haters are making up completely false allegations? Noice!

Deal with it, Halo 3 is AAA and more popular online than any other exclusive console FPS.

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#54 gago-gago
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...just because it's a Bungie game doesn't mean it's an automatic AAA game.

I saw a couple of people saying, since it's a Bungie game it should be AAA. :lol::roll:

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#55 BioShockOwnz
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...just because it's a Bungie game doesn't mean it's an automatic AAA game.

I saw a couple of people saying, since it's a Bungie game it should be AAA. :lol::roll:

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Naughty Dog got more votes in one of the more current polls of developers in SWs, yet they make AA games. I don't understand why anyone would say that, unless they want to claim flop and try to get some ownage!

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[QUOTE="MortalDecay"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] Lets see Bridges the storyline between Halo 2 and 3. Generally same mechanics, probably a shorter game than Halo 3 THe same EXACT multiplayer as Halo 3 Adds nothing new other than fire ffight and 2 weapons I guess. Its a new Halo type experience sure, but it is essentially an expansion and always was one since day one. It offers pretty much what Crysis Warhead did(another stand alone expansion) that was actually priced properly like an expansion. jg4xchamp
Nit pick all you want, ODST isn't an expansion. If ODST is an exansion, then I feel for everyone that bought Heavenly Sword...It's was nothing more than an over-priced PSN arcade game.

I didnt buy HS, or Madworld at full retail for being short. and how is ODST not an expansion? does it change the gameplay dramatically? Not really its essentially the same health system, movement speed, jumping distance as Halo: CE. The narrative is essentially filler for the universe all be it an intriguing one. I don't question the games quality, I question it being worth 60 bucks with so many other options in the holiday stretch and god knows how many options coming up next year.

Obviously your idea of an exansion is a lot different that a lot of other people, like me, major gaming websites, etc. Everyone is saying that ODST is more like a full game than an exansion. The only people calling OSDT an expansion are fanboys/haters. So, keep nit picking, if it makes you happy. I'll check the game out, and form my pwn opinion.
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="MortalDecay"] Nit pick all you want, ODST isn't an expansion. If ODST is an exansion, then I feel for everyone that bought Heavenly Sword...It's was nothing more than an over-priced PSN arcade game.MortalDecay
I didnt buy HS, or Madworld at full retail for being short. and how is ODST not an expansion? does it change the gameplay dramatically? Not really its essentially the same health system, movement speed, jumping distance as Halo: CE. The narrative is essentially filler for the universe all be it an intriguing one. I don't question the games quality, I question it being worth 60 bucks with so many other options in the holiday stretch and god knows how many options coming up next year.

Obviously your idea of an exansion is a lot different that a lot of other people, like me, major gaming websites, etc. Everyone is saying that ODST is more like a full game than an exansion. The only people calling OSDT an expansion are fanboys/haters. So, keep nit picking, if it makes you happy. I'll check the game out, and form my pwn opinion.

Major gaming websites haven't reviewed the game....so I wouldn't throw them out on the "calling it a full retail" group just yet. Because for the longest time this game was always mentioned as an expansion...until the price tag and the whole "The game grew into a larger project and yada yada yada" I'm suddenly a Halo hater? Lets see hours upon hours spent in Halo 3, purchased all the map packs and I'm now a hater(can't exactly be called a fanboy of something else at this point). ..... For someone who owns Halo 3 and bought the map packs, the game comes off as an expansion, it comes off holding almost nowhere near the amount of value that should be expected of a 60 dollar game. Why complain so much about HS, Uncharted being short and then be so quick to forgive Halo 3: ODST?
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I didnt buy HS, or Madworld at full retail for being short. and how is ODST not an expansion? does it change the gameplay dramatically? Not really its essentially the same health system, movement speed, jumping distance as Halo: CE. The narrative is essentially filler for the universe all be it an intriguing one. I don't question the games quality, I question it being worth 60 bucks with so many other options in the holiday stretch and god knows how many options coming up next year. jg4xchamp
i'd say technically its not an expansion simply because its a stand-alone game. i.e. you don't have to have Halo 3 to play it. but you certainly have some valid points.
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="rogelio22"]

well if it scores less than KZ2 it will finally prove KZ2 >> halo series:o and lems can finally stop saying KZ2 is garbage

not in one way....beating out an expansion isn't saying much now is it.

supposably its a full game now and besides isnt this game halo3 at its core??? if it does score lower it will finally prove that games are rated based on inflation theory meaning ratings are made to higher standards everytime a game gets a high score
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#61 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]I didnt buy HS, or Madworld at full retail for being short. and how is ODST not an expansion? does it change the gameplay dramatically? Not really its essentially the same health system, movement speed, jumping distance as Halo: CE. The narrative is essentially filler for the universe all be it an intriguing one. I don't question the games quality, I question it being worth 60 bucks with so many other options in the holiday stretch and god knows how many options coming up next year. clone01
i'd say technically its not an expansion simply because its a stand-alone game. i.e. you don't have to have Halo 3 to play it. but you certainly have some valid points.

Crysis Warhead,Stand alone game EXPANSION!!!
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[QUOTE="MortalDecay"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] I didnt buy HS, or Madworld at full retail for being short. and how is ODST not an expansion? does it change the gameplay dramatically? Not really its essentially the same health system, movement speed, jumping distance as Halo: CE. The narrative is essentially filler for the universe all be it an intriguing one. I don't question the games quality, I question it being worth 60 bucks with so many other options in the holiday stretch and god knows how many options coming up next year. jg4xchamp
Obviously your idea of an exansion is a lot different that a lot of other people, like me, major gaming websites, etc. Everyone is saying that ODST is more like a full game than an exansion. The only people calling OSDT an expansion are fanboys/haters. So, keep nit picking, if it makes you happy. I'll check the game out, and form my pwn opinion.

Major gaming websites haven't reviewed the game....so I wouldn't throw them out on the "calling it a full retail" group just yet. Because for the longest time this game was always mentioned as an expansion...until the price tag and the whole "The game grew into a larger project and yada yada yada" I'm suddenly a Halo hater? Lets see hours upon hours spent in Halo 3, purchased all the map packs and I'm now a hater(can't exactly be called a fanboy of something else at this point). ..... For someone who owns Halo 3 and bought the map packs, the game comes off as an expansion, it comes off holding almost nowhere near the amount of value that should be expected of a 60 dollar game. Why complain so much about HS, Uncharted being short and then be so quick to forgive Halo 3: ODST?

I guess you weren't paying attention when Kotaku (I believe) came out with an article that said ODST isn't an expansion. There are a few other gaming news sites that have said the same thing. I am not forgiving ODST for being short, because I don't know how short it is. I have not played it yet, and unlike a lot of people in SW, I refuse to judge games that I have not played. I have played HS, so that's a different story. If you feel ODST is an expansion, go rent it...I don't know what else to tell you.
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[QUOTE="mythrol"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]The Youtube playthrough....dude beat the game(the main storyline stuff without going for audio files and stuff) under 4 hours. So I'm guessing even on Heroic or Legendary assuming you are good at Halo or shooters in general it will be what 6 hours max?jg4xchamp
Care for the game to officially release before believing a leaked unfinished french version of the game?

sure but even then I have my issue with this expansion being charged like a full retail game. When a good chunk of the content(the entire 2nd disc) has been out long before ODST even released(all be it ODST adds 3 maps to it).

To be honest, that's just what GOTY editions of games do. They are cheaper, but you are getting a new Halo campaign here.

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if its $60+it better be a full game!!! expansions are suppose to be cheaper than a full price game so yeah its a full game

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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]I didnt buy HS, or Madworld at full retail for being short. and how is ODST not an expansion? does it change the gameplay dramatically? Not really its essentially the same health system, movement speed, jumping distance as Halo: CE. The narrative is essentially filler for the universe all be it an intriguing one. I don't question the games quality, I question it being worth 60 bucks with so many other options in the holiday stretch and god knows how many options coming up next year. jg4xchamp
i'd say technically its not an expansion simply because its a stand-alone game. i.e. you don't have to have Halo 3 to play it. but you certainly have some valid points.

Crysis Warhead,Stand alone game EXPANSION!!!

Yeah, I would say Crysis Warhead is a good comparison. Dead on, in fact.

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#66 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="rogelio22"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="rogelio22"]

well if it scores less than KZ2 it will finally prove KZ2 >> halo series:o and lems can finally stop saying KZ2 is garbage

not in one way....beating out an expansion isn't saying much now is it.

supposably its a full game now and besides isnt this game halo3 at its core??? if it does score lower it will finally prove that games are rated based on inflation theory meaning ratings are made to higher standards everytime a game gets a high score

Um difference. Halo 3 launched with a brand new MP(new enough atleast) that effected its score. ODST is launching with a repackaged MP that will not boost its score. Gameplay wise even at its core it is not like Halo 3...more like a refined Halo 1. The inflation theory has always been there, but that doesn't automatically prove Killzone 2>the entire Halo series. Certain things Killzone 2 does better(gunplay for instance) and other things Halo 3 does much better(community gaming via forge/theatre, etc). ODST will not suddenly make Killzone 2 the better shooter.....thats like saying FF X suddenly wasn't as good because X-2 was bad.
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#67 shadow_hosi
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]I didnt buy HS, or Madworld at full retail for being short. and how is ODST not an expansion? does it change the gameplay dramatically? Not really its essentially the same health system, movement speed, jumping distance as Halo: CE. The narrative is essentially filler for the universe all be it an intriguing one. I don't question the games quality, I question it being worth 60 bucks with so many other options in the holiday stretch and god knows how many options coming up next year. jg4xchamp
i'd say technically its not an expansion simply because its a stand-alone game. i.e. you don't have to have Halo 3 to play it. but you certainly have some valid points.

Crysis Warhead,Stand alone game EXPANSION!!!

its called a stand-alone expansion like DoW: Dark Crusade
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#68 jg4xchamp
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if its $60+it better be a full game!!! expansions are suppose to be cheaper than a full price game so yeah its a full game

rogelio22

Banjo Kazooie was a full game....it was only 40 bucks :|. When a developer goes out and initially calls a game an expansion.. It's an expansion :|....especially when most of the content has been out for awhile now.

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#69 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="clone01"] i'd say technically its not an expansion simply because its a stand-alone game. i.e. you don't have to have Halo 3 to play it. but you certainly have some valid points.

Crysis Warhead,Stand alone game EXPANSION!!!

its called a stand-alone expansion like DoW: Dark Crusade

um....that was exactly my point :?
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#70 clone01
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Crysis Warhead,Stand alone game EXPANSION!!!jg4xchamp
ok, ok. easy there killer :P
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="rogelio22"]

if its $60+it better be a full game!!! expansions are suppose to be cheaper than a full price game so yeah its a full game

Banjo Kazooie was a full game....it was only 40 bucks :|. When a developer goes out and initially calls a game an expansion.. It's an expansion :|....especially when most of the content has been out for awhile now.

So, by your logic, if Rockstar came out and said they were planning on making another expansion for GTA4, and in the middle of working on it, they decided to turn it into a full game, and release it on it's own. Despite it being a full game, it's still an expansion because that's what they first called it? Wow.
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[QUOTE="rogelio22"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] not in one way....beating out an expansion isn't saying much now is it. jg4xchamp
supposably its a full game now and besides isnt this game halo3 at its core??? if it does score lower it will finally prove that games are rated based on inflation theory meaning ratings are made to higher standards everytime a game gets a high score

Um difference. Halo 3 launched with a brand new MP(new enough atleast) that effected its score. ODST is launching with a repackaged MP that will not boost its score. Gameplay wise even at its core it is not like Halo 3...more like a refined Halo 1. The inflation theory has always been there, but that doesn't automatically prove Killzone 2>the entire Halo series. Certain things Killzone 2 does better(gunplay for instance) and other things Halo 3 does much better(community gaming via forge/theatre, etc). ODST will not suddenly make Killzone 2 the better shooter.....thats like saying FF X suddenly wasn't as good because X-2 was bad.

well to be honest i did like story way better on Halo than KZ2 but KZ2s gameplay, controls and graphics made it the better game for me also i first started playing halo right before KZ2 came out i played through all 3 halos for the first time a few months before KZ2 came out so you can see why i prefer KZ2 and as for MP halo just gets lonely after awhile with only 12 players at once as opposed to KZ2s 32 players

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="rogelio22"]

if its $60+it better be a full game!!! expansions are suppose to be cheaper than a full price game so yeah its a full game

MortalDecay
Banjo Kazooie was a full game....it was only 40 bucks :|. When a developer goes out and initially calls a game an expansion.. It's an expansion :|....especially when most of the content has been out for awhile now.

So, by your logic, if Rockstar came out and said they were planning on making another expansion for GTA4, and in the middle of working on it, they decided to turn it into a full game, and release it on it's own. Despite it being a full game, it's still an expansion because that's what they first called it? Wow.

by his logic Vice City and San Andreas are expansions which are not!!!
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lol, why are so many cows trying to discredit ODST?? Why are you even worried about it?? Just let it go, if it sucks.........it sucks for 360 owners, it doesnt affect you at all, quit making threads about it................good lord!!
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#75 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="MortalDecay"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="rogelio22"]

if its $60+it better be a full game!!! expansions are suppose to be cheaper than a full price game so yeah its a full game

Banjo Kazooie was a full game....it was only 40 bucks :|. When a developer goes out and initially calls a game an expansion.. It's an expansion :|....especially when most of the content has been out for awhile now.

So, by your logic, if Rockstar came out and said they were planning on making another expansion for GTA4, and in the middle of working on it, they decided to turn it into a full game, and release it on it's own. Despite it being a full game, it's still an expansion because that's what they first called it? Wow.

It would have to be a substantial amount of additional content for it to be considered anything but an expansion Half the stuff about ODST was initially called an expansion when they first revealed the game. The campaign, the part where it comes with all the maps, and the new multiplayer addition(fire fight) was allready in the product line when they initial revealed the game. Exactly how much bigger did this game get? and lets go back to the pricing of this game. The story has been the same a MIcrosoft rep came into see the game and essentially said "what are you talking about this is a full game" or however the hell that story has gone. Forgive me for being cynical about the game knowing full well how easy it is for Microsoft to charge 60 bucks for anything Halo and cash in on it. Not blaming them, just saying that just about everything about the game since day 1 has screamed expansion.
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lol, why are so many cows trying to discredit ODST?? Why are you even worried about it?? Just let it go, if it sucks.........it sucks for 360 owners, it doesnt affect you at all, quit making threads about it................good lord!!navyguy21
uhm i thought this was SYSTEM WARS??? am i in the wrong place???
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="rogelio22"] supposably its a full game now and besides isnt this game halo3 at its core??? if it does score lower it will finally prove that games are rated based on inflation theory meaning ratings are made to higher standards everytime a game gets a high scorerogelio22

Um difference. Halo 3 launched with a brand new MP(new enough atleast) that effected its score. ODST is launching with a repackaged MP that will not boost its score. Gameplay wise even at its core it is not like Halo 3...more like a refined Halo 1. The inflation theory has always been there, but that doesn't automatically prove Killzone 2>the entire Halo series. Certain things Killzone 2 does better(gunplay for instance) and other things Halo 3 does much better(community gaming via forge/theatre, etc). ODST will not suddenly make Killzone 2 the better shooter.....thats like saying FF X suddenly wasn't as good because X-2 was bad.

well to be honest i did like story way better on Halo than KZ2 but KZ2s gameplay, controls and graphics made it the better game for me also i first started playing halo right before KZ2 came out i played through all 3 halos for the first time a few months before KZ2 came out so you can see why i prefer KZ2 and as for MP halo just gets lonely after awhile with only 12 players at once as opposed to KZ2s 32 players

Halo 3 is 16....the main matchamking stuff is usually 8 though...but only 3 of the maps are even that big enough for it to feel empty with 8. Killzone 2s gunplay i like more, but I prefer Halo's blend of vehicles, melee, and grenades. Plus its far more customizable for custom games....which usually leads to luls :) I love the sniper class in Killzone 2 though, allthough that one superpower is just unfair when it lights up your whole screen with everyones location....It's like "which one should i shoot first" :P...plus i love that sniper :)
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[QUOTE="navyguy21"]lol, why are so many cows trying to discredit ODST?? Why are you even worried about it?? Just let it go, if it sucks.........it sucks for 360 owners, it doesnt affect you at all, quit making threads about it................good lord!!rogelio22
uhm i thought this was SYSTEM WARS??? am i in the wrong place???

True, but is ODST a system?? Is it on PS3?? Does it threaten the existence of the PS3?? Why does it seem that cows are the ones creating threads about it?? What kind of logic the TC has where the sequal/expansion/spinoff of a game effects any other game's value/score/worth?? To say that a game is overrated is purely an opinion, and it doesnt make it fact. In no way does ODST's score devalue Halo 3. So does KZ2 score mean KZ1 was underrated?? If UC2 scores a 5, does that mean UC1 was overrated?? Of course not, but thats the kind of logic the TC has, and you think its ok because this is system wars??
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I could see it getting points knocked off over lack of value.
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#80 rogelio22
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[QUOTE="rogelio22"][QUOTE="navyguy21"]lol, why are so many cows trying to discredit ODST?? Why are you even worried about it?? Just let it go, if it sucks.........it sucks for 360 owners, it doesnt affect you at all, quit making threads about it................good lord!!navyguy21
uhm i thought this was SYSTEM WARS??? am i in the wrong place???

True, but is ODST a system?? Is it on PS3?? Does it threaten the existence of the PS3?? Why does it seem that cows are the ones creating threads about it?? What kind of logic the TC has where the sequal/expansion/spinoff of a game effects any other game's value/score/worth?? To say that a game is overrated is purely an opinion, and it doesnt make it fact. In no way does ODST's score devalue Halo 3. So does KZ2 score mean KZ1 was underrated?? If UC2 scores a 5, does that mean UC1 was overrated?? Of course not, but thats the kind of logic the TC has, and you think its ok because this is system wars??

its just debate man! chill out! anyways i like halo but KZ2 being on ps3 ONLY and halo being on 360 ONLY makes them part of system wars ok
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="mythrol"] Care for the game to officially release before believing a leaked unfinished french version of the game?heretrix

sure but even then I have my issue with this expansion being charged like a full retail game. When a good chunk of the content(the entire 2nd disc) has been out long before ODST even released(all be it ODST adds 3 maps to it).

To be honest, that's just what GOTY editions of games do. They are cheaper, but you are getting a new Halo campaign here.

if we compare it to a GOTY edition(good point by the way, I couldn't come up with crap)....wouldn't it also be logical that there should be a way to purchase some of the stuff seperatly. For intance all i want is ODST campaign, fire fight, and the last 3 maps....This one of Microsofts best chances at doing a Digitial Ditribution type game.
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#82 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Crysis Warhead,Stand alone game EXPANSION!!!clone01
ok, ok. easy there killer :P

my bad, just having some system wars fun :P
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#83 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Crysis Warhead,Stand alone game EXPANSION!!!jg4xchamp
ok, ok. easy there killer :P

my bad, just having some system wars fun :P

no worries, i was just teasing, too :)
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#84 navyguy21
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[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="rogelio22"]uhm i thought this was SYSTEM WARS??? am i in the wrong place???rogelio22
True, but is ODST a system?? Is it on PS3?? Does it threaten the existence of the PS3?? Why does it seem that cows are the ones creating threads about it?? What kind of logic the TC has where the sequal/expansion/spinoff of a game effects any other game's value/score/worth?? To say that a game is overrated is purely an opinion, and it doesnt make it fact. In no way does ODST's score devalue Halo 3. So does KZ2 score mean KZ1 was underrated?? If UC2 scores a 5, does that mean UC1 was overrated?? Of course not, but thats the kind of logic the TC has, and you think its ok because this is system wars??

its just debate man! chill out! anyways i like halo but KZ2 being on ps3 ONLY and halo being on 360 ONLY makes them part of system wars ok

lol, i agree with you on that front, but my point is, how can we have a debate on someone's opinion?? Have you ever seen a sequel/spinoff's score devalue its predecessor?? Its comical to even think about lol. Its cool though lol, add me to PSN ok, i need friends :P
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#85 rogelio22
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[QUOTE="rogelio22"][QUOTE="navyguy21"] True, but is ODST a system?? Is it on PS3?? Does it threaten the existence of the PS3?? Why does it seem that cows are the ones creating threads about it?? What kind of logic the TC has where the sequal/expansion/spinoff of a game effects any other game's value/score/worth?? To say that a game is overrated is purely an opinion, and it doesnt make it fact. In no way does ODST's score devalue Halo 3. So does KZ2 score mean KZ1 was underrated?? If UC2 scores a 5, does that mean UC1 was overrated?? Of course not, but thats the kind of logic the TC has, and you think its ok because this is system wars??navyguy21
its just debate man! chill out! anyways i like halo but KZ2 being on ps3 ONLY and halo being on 360 ONLY makes them part of system wars ok

lol, i agree with you on that front, but my point is, how can we have a debate on someone's opinion?? Have you ever seen a sequel/spinoff's score devalue its predecessor?? Its comical to even think about lol. Its cool though lol, add me to PSN ok, i need friends :P

yeah cool man just add me same user name rogelio22
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#86 rogelio22
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oh and BTW if this game gets 8.0 or higher im picking it up right away!!! since i never got any H3 expansions and never play online since i dont have gold but will get for a month if this game is any good

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#87 def_mode
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You think it matters to them if the game is good or not? its all about the sales. they can get money without even trying, just slap the name Halo on it.

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#88 Trmpt
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the review for Halo 3 was wrong because they are basically the same game 1 without master chief.

just a thought

patrickjw333
Actually if it is the same game, wouldnt that mean that Halo 3's score and the flopping of ODST were justified?
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#89 vashkey
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[QUOTE="patrickjw333"]

the review for Halo 3 was wrong because they are basically the same game 1 without master chief.

just a thought

BodyElite

Halo 3 is 2 years old... H3 was a 9.5 during its time. After H3, many FPS's came out that innovated the genre. COD4 with its sprinting, unlockables, etc, KZ2 with its graphics.

Sprinting and Unlockables were around long before Call of Duty 4. Remember Half-Life 2 and Call of Duty: Untied Offensive(or you know, how games use to work like in the old days. Like most fighting games?)? And how is improving graphics innovative? Still Halo 3's graphics stand the test of time. It may not be the best looking game but it's far from the worst or even average.

Those assets really aren't what make a shooter good anyway. They can help but it's not all it takes. A game doesn't need to have any of that so long as it's well enough designed with what it has.

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#90 vashkey
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[QUOTE="wakano"][QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"] Killzone innovated the FPS genre with its graphics? onewiththegame

it innovated it with cover system that DOESNT EVEN WORK, but probably the only argument cows can use -.-

kilzone wasn't even the first FPS this gen to use cover that would be MOH: airborn

Sure, I guess if you ignore Rainbow Six Vegas and Ghost Recon: Advanced War Fighter.
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#91 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] sure but even then I have my issue with this expansion being charged like a full retail game. When a good chunk of the content(the entire 2nd disc) has been out long before ODST even released(all be it ODST adds 3 maps to it). jg4xchamp

To be honest, that's just what GOTY editions of games do. They are cheaper, but you are getting a new Halo campaign here.

if we compare it to a GOTY edition(good point by the way, I couldn't come up with crap)....wouldn't it also be logical that there should be a way to purchase some of the stuff seperatly. For intance all i want is ODST campaign, fire fight, and the last 3 maps....This one of Microsofts best chances at doing a Digitial Ditribution type game.

That's a good idea, but the way I see it, MS wants to treat any major Halo property as an event. So that means, commercials, midnight launches and the like. You can't do that and sell as many copies through digital download as you can the other way. It's all about the marketing.

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#92 dragonfly110
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no. THis game not reviewing well will have nothign dto do with Halo 3's reviews :|

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#93 Bigboi500
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Flops on GS don't mean ****.

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#94 xionvalkyrie
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This game is going to sell regardless of whether or not it flops...