If Only 2 of the Big 3 Survive Thru to the Next Generation. Who Would Fall?

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#1 TigerWars
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IMO if one of the big 3 were to fail I think it would be Playstation and there would only be Microsoft and Nintendo. That's purely based on what's happening right now with them.

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#2 painguy1
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Microsoft...I own a 360 btw & not a PS3

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#3 drakekratos
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None. They all have a lot of money.
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#4 DarkLink77
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As long as all of the internal studios were able to survive such a thing, I really wouldn't care.

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#5 TheAcountantMan
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I hope none fail.
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sure. in this scenario that'll never happen, it'd be awful if anyone but microsoft was the one to go.

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#7 ShadowDeathX
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If Microsoft screws up with their Next Console then I can see them leaving. Same thing can be said about Sony though,

but it is going to be pretty hard for any company to lose out; Sony and Microsoft are almost equal in sales and

Playstation, Xbox, and Wii are like HUGE NAMES!

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In my opinion, I'll actually like a fourth company to jump in, into the console market. (For very good reasons =D)

Apple would be perfect, even thought I am an Apple Hater but still would be cool.

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#8 Crystal-Rush
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[QUOTE="drakekratos"]None. They all have a lot of money.

Maybe so, but they all have to answer to shareholders. If their investment is not profitable they will bail out
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Sega.

Oh wait.

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#10 kuraimen
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M$ should fail for the improvement of the industry.
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#11 Karnage108
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M$ should fail for the improvement of the industry.kuraimen
... Yeah but they won't. The thread title is asking 'would', not should. We already know you're a ps3 fanboy with an innate hatred for MS so we didn't need to know that you think they should fail.
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I honestly doubt any of them will go anywhere, but I guess I'd have to put my money on Microsoft. The ONLY reason I say this is that they are too focused on the casual market while still pushing core prices and aren't doing much of anything in terms of first party games. It just seems like they are on a bad path. Sony, on the other hand, has learned some valuable lessons and has been picking up steam for a while. They haves some great exclusives coming out this year, too. It's kind of like the "Tortoise and the Hair." Microsoft is taking a quick nap while Sony is chugging along, almost to the finish line. Like I said, though, I don't think either are leaving the race anytime soon. There's no need to mention Nintendo. Of course, they aren't going anywhere.
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If Microsoft screws up with their Next Console then I can see them leaving. Same thing can be said about Sony though,

but it is going to be pretty hard for any company to lose out; Sony and Microsoft are almost equal in sales and

Playstation, Xbox, and Wii are like HUGE NAMES!

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In my opinion, I'll actually like a fourth company to jump in, into the console market. (For very good reasons =D)

Apple would be perfect, even thought I am an Apple Hater but still would be cool.

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Apple home console. $1500. Instant hit. 10 million sold in first week. Gaming dies a little inside.
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I honestly doubt any of them will go anywhere, but I guess I'd have to put my money on Microsoft. The ONLY reason I say this is that they are too focused on the casual market while still pushing core prices and aren't doing much of anything in terms of first party games. It just seems like they are on a bad path. Sony, on the other hand, has learned some valuable lessons and has been picking up steam for a while. They haves some great exclusives coming out this year, too. It's kind of like the "Tortoise and the Hair." Microsoft is taking a quick nap while Sony is chugging along, almost to the finish line. Like I said, though, I don't think either are leaving the race anytime soon. There's no need to mention Nintendo. Of course, they aren't going anywhere. MrSelf-Destruct

been meaning to ask you, what show is your avatar and sig from?

(if it is a show)

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None. Many will say MS "should" fail.
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[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"]I honestly doubt any of them will go anywhere, but I guess I'd have to put my money on Microsoft. The ONLY reason I say this is that they are too focused on the casual market while still pushing core prices and aren't doing much of anything in terms of first party games. It just seems like they are on a bad path. Sony, on the other hand, has learned some valuable lessons and has been picking up steam for a while. They haves some great exclusives coming out this year, too. It's kind of like the "Tortoise and the Hair." Microsoft is taking a quick nap while Sony is chugging along, almost to the finish line. Like I said, though, I don't think either are leaving the race anytime soon. There's no need to mention Nintendo. Of course, they aren't going anywhere. theuncharted34

been meaning to ask you, what show is your avatar and sig from?

(if it is a show)

Parks and Recreation on NBC. The first season is on Netflix if you have it. Funny stuff. ;)
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"]I honestly doubt any of them will go anywhere, but I guess I'd have to put my money on Microsoft. The ONLY reason I say this is that they are too focused on the casual market while still pushing core prices and aren't doing much of anything in terms of first party games. It just seems like they are on a bad path. Sony, on the other hand, has learned some valuable lessons and has been picking up steam for a while. They haves some great exclusives coming out this year, too. It's kind of like the "Tortoise and the Hair." Microsoft is taking a quick nap while Sony is chugging along, almost to the finish line. Like I said, though, I don't think either are leaving the race anytime soon. There's no need to mention Nintendo. Of course, they aren't going anywhere. MrSelf-Destruct

been meaning to ask you, what show is your avatar and sig from?

(if it is a show)

Parks and Recreation on NBC. The first season is on Netflix if you have it. Funny stuff. ;)

I don't have netflix, but I can tell it must be pretty funny :P

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[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

been meaning to ask you, what show is your avatar and sig from?

(if it is a show)

theuncharted34

Parks and Recreation on NBC. The first season is on Netflix if you have it. Funny stuff. ;)

I don't have netflix, but I can tell it must be pretty funny :P

Dude, threw his back out and can't move. That's why he tries to catch a whole burger in his mouth. :P
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"] Parks and Recreation on NBC. The first season is on Netflix if you have it. Funny stuff. ;)MrSelf-Destruct

I don't have netflix, but I can tell it must be pretty funny :P

Dude, threw his back out and can't move. That's why he tries to catch a whole burger in his mouth. :P

:lol: oh man I have to see this now. lol

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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"] Parks and Recreation on NBC. The first season is on Netflix if you have it. Funny stuff. ;)MrSelf-Destruct

I don't have netflix, but I can tell it must be pretty funny :P

Dude, threw his back out and can't move. That's why he tries to catch a whole burger in his mouth. :P

All I needed to be was drunk to try that.
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#21 dercoo
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Microsoft as,

1. Kinect is successful, but not the next wii like they hoped (and invested 500+ M in)

2. They have euthanized their 1st party

3. Microsoft is a very big $$$ oriented company, and the xbox brand has been delivering profit as well as the Zune in many of their minds(aka in the red). And now the zune is dead, xbox division may follow if sales drop

4. They don't have as much invested in game industry. Nintendo only does games, and Sony has a much larger developer list, and console + handheld divisions

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I don't really see any of them dropping out of the console market. If I had to choose, I'd guess Microsoft.

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I think it'd be Sony, for non-gaming related reasons, MS has enough money to not worry about investing in the next consoles, if the next Nintendo console were to not be as popular as the Wii they can remain low key like they were during the GC days, Sony I worry about most because of the size of their business, unlike MS Sony deals with lots of hardware, though they bring in high revenues they have higher production costs, in a good year they'll maybe make only few hundred million dollars tops in net profits, while MS on the other hand like last year made $18+ billion in net profits, their profits in one year are greater than a decade of Sony's, they develop software which is cheaper, a DVD player or a TV costs money to make, a box with a CD and a manual costs substantially less, I don't see MS going anywhere, Sony though has to worry about their other hardware, for instance Samsung is out there making the best HDTVs and they're just as much as Sony's HDTVs, and companies like Vizio and Olevia are making decent economic low end HDTVs, if Sony loses out to competitors in areas like this it could easily change the company, plus the earthquake, tsunami, nuclear disaster in Japan, who knows what kind of unforeseen consequences that's going to have on the economy, if anything does happen to Sony it could just as easily happen to Nintendo maybe, and MS will be there to buy them out later possibly... another anti-trust lawsuit against MS in the future if that happens though
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Sony. They are the smallest of the three in terms of revenue and profit.
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Sony. They are the smallest of the three in terms of revenue and profit. KC_Hokie
That's not true anymore. In the 3rd quarter of last year Sony brought in a $500million+ profit while MS brought in $300million+.
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Sony. They are the smallest of the three in terms of revenue and profit. MrSelf-Destruct
That's not true anymore. In the 3rd quarter of last year Sony brought in a $500million+ profit while MS brought in $300million+.

You're joking, right? MS makes billions in profit per quarter.
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Microsoft or Sony, Nintendo has always been the most profitable.
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#28 KC_Hokie
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Microsoft or Sony, Nintendo has always been the most profitable. SAGE_OF_FIRE
No they haven't. MS (the entire corporation) profits exceed both.
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as much as i dislike nintendo and MS i wouldnt want any of them to fail.... competition pushes the industry forward...
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[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]Microsoft or Sony, Nintendo has always been the most profitable. KC_Hokie
No they haven't. MS (the entire corporation) profits exceed both.

I thought we were talking about video games? The Xbox and PlayStation division has always been less profitable than whatever Nintendo was doing at the time.
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[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Sony. They are the smallest of the three in terms of revenue and profit. KC_Hokie
That's not true anymore. In the 3rd quarter of last year Sony brought in a $500million+ profit while MS brought in $300million+.

You're joking, right? MS makes billions in profit per quarter.

No, I'm not joking. I am, however, only referring to the gaming divisions.

Sony: http://www.industrygamers.com/news/sonys-game-division-sees-135-profit-boost-during-holiday-quarter/

Microsoft: http://digital-stats.blogspot.com/2010/11/microsofts-gaming-devices-division.html

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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"] That's not true anymore. In the 3rd quarter of last year Sony brought in a $500million+ profit while MS brought in $300million+.MrSelf-Destruct

You're joking, right? MS makes billions in profit per quarter.

No, I'm not joking. I am, however, only referring to the gaming divisions.

Sony: http://www.industrygamers.com/news/sonys-game-division-sees-135-profit-boost-during-holiday-quarter/

Microsoft: http://digital-stats.blogspot.com/2010/11/microsofts-gaming-devices-division.html

Why only gaming divisions? The parent company has as much to do with the future of a gaming division than anything. And the OP was comparing parent companies. They make the ultimate decisions.
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hard to say. They are all pretty evenly matched. Ps3 has a tad superior lineup for hardcore games, wii has a tad better casual appeal. And 360 has a bit of both.
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[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"] You're joking, right? MS makes billions in profit per quarter.KC_Hokie

No, I'm not joking. I am, however, only referring to the gaming divisions.

Sony: http://www.industrygamers.com/news/sonys-game-division-sees-135-profit-boost-during-holiday-quarter/

Microsoft: http://digital-stats.blogspot.com/2010/11/microsofts-gaming-devices-division.html

Why only gaming divisions? The parent company has as much to do with the future of a gaming division than anything. And the OP was comparing parent companies. They make the ultimate decisions.

if one division does poorly and is hampering other divisions, wouldn't it make sense to scrap it?

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[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"] You're joking, right? MS makes billions in profit per quarter.KC_Hokie

No, I'm not joking. I am, however, only referring to the gaming divisions.

Sony: http://www.industrygamers.com/news/sonys-game-division-sees-135-profit-boost-during-holiday-quarter/

Microsoft: http://digital-stats.blogspot.com/2010/11/microsofts-gaming-devices-division.html

Why only gaming divisions? The parent company has as much to do with the future of a gaming division than anything. And the OP was comparing parent companies. They make the ultimate decisions.

I thought you were talking about the gaming devisions, too, at first. If we're talking about the parent company then I concede. Although, the profitability of the gaming devision should effect the parent company's choice to continue supporting it or not.
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"]

No, I'm not joking. I am, however, only referring to the gaming divisions.

Sony: http://www.industrygamers.com/news/sonys-game-division-sees-135-profit-boost-during-holiday-quarter/

Microsoft: http://digital-stats.blogspot.com/2010/11/microsofts-gaming-devices-division.html

theuncharted34

Why only gaming divisions? The parent company has as much to do with the future of a gaming division than anything. And the OP was comparing parent companies. They make the ultimate decisions.

if one division does poorly and is hampering other divisions, wouldn't it make sense to scrap it?

For Sony and Nintendo yes. For MS...they make so much money they don't have to. MS is more profitable than Sony and Nintendo combined.
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I don't want to see any of them die, though. I love them all!!! :cry: [spoiler] Except Nintendo. :P [/spoiler]
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Why only gaming divisions? The parent company has as much to do with the future of a gaming division than anything. And the OP was comparing parent companies. They make the ultimate decisions. KC_Hokie

if one division does poorly and is hampering other divisions, wouldn't it make sense to scrap it?

For Sony and Nintendo yes. For MS...they make so much money they don't have to. MS is more profitable than Sony and Nintendo combined.

ugh... sometimes, people's affection for a multibillion dollar corparation really sickens me.

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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"]

No, I'm not joking. I am, however, only referring to the gaming divisions.

Sony: http://www.industrygamers.com/news/sonys-game-division-sees-135-profit-boost-during-holiday-quarter/

Microsoft: http://digital-stats.blogspot.com/2010/11/microsofts-gaming-devices-division.html

MrSelf-Destruct

Why only gaming divisions? The parent company has as much to do with the future of a gaming division than anything. And the OP was comparing parent companies. They make the ultimate decisions.

I thought you were talking about the gaming devisions, too, at first. If we're talking about the parent company then I concede. Although, the profitability of the gaming devision should effect the parent company's choice to continue supporting it or not.

MS lost hundreds of millions on the original Xbox. Their reaction was to build the Xbox 360. Sony and Nintendo couldn't do that.

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#40 KC_Hokie
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

if one division does poorly and is hampering other divisions, wouldn't it make sense to scrap it?

theuncharted34

For Sony and Nintendo yes. For MS...they make so much money they don't have to. MS is more profitable than Sony and Nintendo combined.

ugh... sometimes, people's affection for a multibillion dollar corparation really sickens me.

Just stating a fact. It actually happened with the Xbox.
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I don't want to see any of them die, though. I love them all!!! :cry: [spoiler] Except Nintendo. :P [/spoiler] MrSelf-Destruct

really? you don't like nintendo? :evil:

well... this man, has something to tell you.

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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Why only gaming divisions? The parent company has as much to do with the future of a gaming division than anything. And the OP was comparing parent companies. They make the ultimate decisions. KC_Hokie

if one division does poorly and is hampering other divisions, wouldn't it make sense to scrap it?

For Sony and Nintendo yes. For MS...they make so much money they don't have to. MS is more profitable than Sony and Nintendo combined.

That is true beyond contest. Sony is still in the hundred millions while MS has more doubled a billion twice.
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#43 MrSelf-Destruct
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blah. blah. blah. Nintendo. :P

theuncharted34

Haha. Na, I have no problem with them. I certainly don't want to see them fail. They just don't have anything that appeals to me. I'm really hoping this Project Cafe changes that, though. The more games and systems I can get my hands on, the better.

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Stable saturation seems to stick around 3 systems, if there are only two then stagnation can start to occur, more and splitting the market into too many peices usually ends in the death of unprofitable companies. In all reality the only reason SEGA ever left was because of a massive line of failure after failure. Saying that MS made the Xbox360 because "They could afford it" is silly, they seen potential in the device otherwise they wouldn't be doing it for kicks, even profitable companies will cut off a bleeding company like a infected limb.
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#45 timmy00
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None of them.

Wait that isn't a choice? Well I'm not changing it! :x

:P

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#46 EntropyWins
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Id much prefer to see Microsoft go than the other two. I wish I would've bought a PS3 this gen instead.

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#47 stereointegrity
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[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"] You're joking, right? MS makes billions in profit per quarter.KC_Hokie

No, I'm not joking. I am, however, only referring to the gaming divisions.

Sony: http://www.industrygamers.com/news/sonys-game-division-sees-135-profit-boost-during-holiday-quarter/

Microsoft: http://digital-stats.blogspot.com/2010/11/microsofts-gaming-devices-division.html

Why only gaming divisions? The parent company has as much to do with the future of a gaming division than anything. And the OP was comparing parent companies. They make the ultimate decisions.

this is a gaming site that talking about gaming? were not talkin as a company whole....haha somone shows proof and now u switch to " why only gaming divisions" lol
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#48 momentum_god
Member since 2011 • 779 Posts

MS is the only one I can see going out, 360 had hardware issues with will make people hesitant about the next xbox add to that their absolute lack of first party and the whole timed exclusive thing is out of the bag when it comes time to switch to a next gen console MS is going to have to do a lot to get their fanbase back, I mean people are pretty dense but you can only turn your back on and scam people out of money so many times before they catch on

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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]For Sony and Nintendo yes. For MS...they make so much money they don't have to. MS is more profitable than Sony and Nintendo combined. KC_Hokie

ugh... sometimes, people's affection for a multibillion dollar corparation really sickens me.

Just stating a fact. It actually happened with the Xbox.

They wouldn't do it twice, thinking they would keep going just because is ridicules

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#49 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

blah. blah. blah. Nintendo. :P

MrSelf-Destruct

Haha. Na, I have no problem with them. I certainly don't want to see them fail. They just don't have anything that appeals to me. I'm really hoping this Project Cafe changes that, though. The more games and systems I can get my hands on, the better.

you are quite the cheeky one, saying reggies words amount to blah blah blah :P

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#50 IndianaPwns39
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Why only gaming divisions? The parent company has as much to do with the future of a gaming division than anything. And the OP was comparing parent companies. They make the ultimate decisions. KC_Hokie

if one division does poorly and is hampering other divisions, wouldn't it make sense to scrap it?

For Sony and Nintendo yes. For MS...they make so much money they don't have to. MS is more profitable than Sony and Nintendo combined.

If the 360 didn't start turning a profit, MS would certainly scrap the project. They wouldn't bleed money just because they can. That's just ridiculous. The reason they made the 360 after taking the less-than-impressive sale rates of the original Xbox is because they learned how to expand their product and make a profit.