If Only 2 of the Big 3 Survive Thru to the Next Generation. Who Would Fall?

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#51 CTR360
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nintendo probably
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#52 NWA90s
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IMO if one of the big 3 were to fail I think it would be Playstation and there would only be Microsoft and Nintendo. That's purely based on what's happening right now with them.

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based on whats happening right now? you mean that the ps3 has now sold 50 million units and the xbox is probably just 1 million ahead? well based on that it probably microsoft
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#53 gamebreakerz__
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Sony - The possible reasons for a Sony exit would be because of the massive losses suffered against the PS3 in the first few year and the company not wanting to risk that again. In saying that, the losses were countered by the PS3 effectively letting Bluray winning the format war which allowed Sony to be more profitable in the long run in other areas so it can be seen as a success in that area. Chances of exiting are very unlikely but not impossible. Microsoft - Massive rise in success this gen compared to last, I don't really see any reason why they would pull out unless they wanted to focus more on PC gaming which I think would be beneficial to almost everyone (assuming the 360 exclusive titles were therefore transferred to PC). The fact of the matter is though that MS have raked it in this gen and will continue to with crap like kinect so I guess it's possible for them to exit the console race in terms of games like Nintendo sort of did this gen but it's extremely unlikely they will boycott altogether. Nintendo - Made so much cash this gen it's almost impossible for them not to release a new console next gen. But the question remains, if they released a console in the next year to 2 years which rivaled PS360 in power, would it really be next gen?? It would have all the multiplats from this gen and apart from some new gimmick I'm sure they will use I don't really see it being competitive to PS4/720 in games. Therefore my vote goes to Sony if we assume next gen = another console. Even though it is the one I would least like to exit (Nintendo being the one I most want to exit), I still think it has the highest chance, even if it is extremely slim.
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#54 gamebreakerz__
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[QUOTE="TigerWars"]

IMO if one of the big 3 were to fail I think it would be Playstation and there would only be Microsoft and Nintendo. That's purely based on what's happening right now with them.

NWA90s
based on whats happening right now? you mean that the ps3 has now sold 50 million units and the xbox is probably just 1 million ahead? well based on that it probably microsoft

PS3 was excessively unprofitable for Sony though for a long time while 360 has made a lot for MS.
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#55 trugs26
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Because of the Janapese market, I think if anything, Microsoft would fall.

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#56 Jack_240
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if one of those three companies were to leave and that's a big IF here, it would be Mircosoft. That's what I think at least, but it won't happen, all companies are doing great regardless of their heated competition in sales. At the moment, Microsoft has their great online service doing great. Sony has impressive amount of exclusive games for all kind of audience. Wii has the casual gamers.. etc. So every company of those has a thing or two to keep them going and I don't see anyone leaving especially this year.

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#57 dakan45
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I was gonna say pc but you didnt even include it :lol: :lol:
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#58 fabz_95
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Nintendo definitely wouldn't fall, I really couldn't say between Microsoft and Sony. Whichever companies gaming division matters more to them (in terms of sales) will stay (e.g. if Playstation earns a larger percentage of Sony's sale than XBOX does Microsofts).
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#59 deactivated-5b4ca38d5fcb0
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It wouldn't suprise me if they all survived and someone got added to the war.
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#60 SaltyMeatballs
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Neither really, but Microsoft and Nintendo are more successful this gen, so I guess teh Sony?
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#61 chrion133
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The best answer is, not the PC, ever :)

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#62 moistsandwich
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the obvious answer is Sony... Sony has been bleeding money for most of the past 5 years, whilst Ninty has been raking it in, and MS has been doing well for themselves.

Of course the Sony Corp. will still exist, but if 1 had to leave the Video Game Marketbased on their financial success of this gen, then it'd be Sony for sure. Sony is so out of touch with their consumers. They do have some great 1st party stuff though, but its not like Sony couldnt continue to develop/publish software and just leave the Hardware of it all to MS& Ninty.

That said, I would want to see another 3rd company take up the gauntlet to give NInty and MS more competition... 3 hardware developers is the sweet spot, imo.

Everyone who is saying anything but Sony are just choosing based on fanboyism.

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#63 ArchaoN
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Haters are gonna claim MS, as they already have, but the reality is it would be Sony who would bail out before anyone else. MS is the most financially stable of the three, and their Xbox brand has been on the rise from the very beginning. They have developed a great ecosystem in xbl and they have a handful of franchises that are very popular. Sony, on the other hand, has been struggling to make a profit as a whole, consistently for about a decade now. The PS2 carried them for several years and they flushed that advantage away by letting their primary competitor take the initiative to release a year ahed of them.
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#64 chocolate1325
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Microsoft because the Playstation brand has a handheld and stronger fanbase.

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#65 Lucianu
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Microsoft would fail, they are basically babies in the console industry compared to Ninty and Sony, which both have gigantic fanbases.

Sony, on the other hand, has been struggling to make a profit as a whole, consistently for about a decade now. The PS2 carried them for several years and they flushed that advantage away by letting their primary competitor take the initiative to release a year ahed of them. ArchaoN

But the PS2 is the highest selling console of all time, and continues to sell and make plenty of money to this day. I think the reason why the PS3 was so pricey at first was because of the blu-ray, 6 years ago that wasn't common, i'm guessing.

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[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

Microsoft would fail, they are basically babies in the console industry compared to Ninty and Sony, which both have gigantic fanbases.

Sony, on the other hand, has been struggling to make a profit as a whole, consistently for about a decade now. The PS2 carried them for several years and they flushed that advantage away by letting their primary competitor take the initiative to release a year ahed of them. ArchaoN

But the PS2 is the highest selling console of all time, and continues to sell and make plenty of money to this day. I think the reason why the PS3 was so pricey at first was because of the blu-ray, 6 years ago that wasn't common, i'm guessing.

The PS2 being the best selling console of all time does nothing for them now. The reality remains... They are not on good financial footing. If MS is as ruthless as they can be, they should release a new console asap, forcing Sony's hand. Sony cannot afford to release a new console now, as they have only started turning a profit within the last 12 months or so.
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#67 cain006
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There's no way Microsoft would go down, they have windows, office, etc. Sony wouldn't either, they make tvs, blu ray players, etc. Nintendo is only games, so they're the only ones I could see going out of business. Won't happen though.

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The Wii, its the weakest of the bunch.
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#69 SaltyMeatballs
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There's no way Microsoft would go down, they have windows, office, etc. Sony wouldn't either, they make tvs, blu ray players, etc. Nintendo is only games, so they're the only ones I could see going out of business. Won't happen though.

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Nintendo was worth more than Sony not long ago, I don't know if that has changed now that PS3 is more profitable.
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#70 cain006
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[QUOTE="cain006"]

There's no way Microsoft would go down, they have windows, office, etc. Sony wouldn't either, they make tvs, blu ray players, etc. Nintendo is only games, so they're the only ones I could see going out of business. Won't happen though.

SaltyMeatballs

Nintendo was worth more than Sony not long ago, I don't know if that has changed now that PS3 is more profitable.

Yeah, it's probably between Sony and Nintendo. I don't know which is worth more, but there's no way Microsoft would go down.

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#71 ethanradd
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Sony would be first to fall, it is the most financially unstable of the three, hate it or love it MS knows how to make that paper, and ofcourse Nintendo have been making tons this gen,

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#72 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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Microsoft as,

1. Kinect is successful, but not the next wii like they hoped (and invested 500+ M in)

2. They have euthanized their 1st party

3. Microsoft is a very big $$$ oriented company, and the xbox brand has been delivering profit as well as the Zune in many of their minds(aka in the red). And now the zune is dead, xbox division may follow if sales drop

4. They don't have as much invested in game industry. Nintendo only does games, and Sony has a much larger developer list, and console + handheld divisions

dercoo

You make some good points. Kinect is the key point. It is selling, and pushing out a system earlier than expected will only upset consumers, ala sega.

Btw, the color of your text is difficult to read.:)

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#73 waltefmoney
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Sony. This gen they've lost A LOT. And as a corporation, they've been struggling for years now.

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**Microsoft**
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#75 haziqonfire
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None of them probably. However, if Sony makes another stupid mistake early on in the next generation they'll lose even more money, though by then they'll probably be able to recover some costs because of old hardware. The PS2 really helped them when the PS3 was released.
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#76 FFKi11er
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I would think it would be Microsoft. With the lack of first party studios I don't see a bright future for them. Which most people don't realize is Sony is making a good amount of money on there first party games. If Sony owns the studio then they see 100% of profit. This was Sonys strategy from the start as you can see this is why they never paid for third party exclusives.
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#77 FearNoAngel5
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I think some people failed to remember what happen last gen with Microsoft... Microsoft only sold about 25 million Xbox's and lost alot of money in the Billions last gen. Knowing they had to get a head start on Sony, they scaped the old Xbox and quickly jumped into this gen with the Xbox360. Alot of people had RROD, Scratched discs when moving the 360, E74 error's etc. As of right now the 360 fanbase (HardCore) need more games, they are not happy with this "all out" Kinect crap So for next gen I can already see alot of Microsoft's hardcore fanbase going over to Nintendo Wii 2 or on Sony's PS4. If Microsoft sleeps next gen then it's over, Nintendo looks ok and Sony is doing good, showing that they can back more than one platform... PS3, PS2, PSP, PSP Go and up next NGP aka PSP 2.
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#78 Demonjoe93
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Microsoft definitly, and that isn't some "what if..." scenario for me, I really do believe they could be forced out of the console market. Unlike Nintendo and Sony they've got very little exclusive franchises. Bungie may be done with Halo now, Gears of War and Fable are on PC, Mass Effect 3 may be multiplat. How much time could Kinect buy Microsoft before the inevitability that people will eventually leave them because there's no reason to own their system over Sony's when Sony gets all the same multiplats and much more exclusives. It is also believed that Nintendo will be using more competitive graphics next gen which also means they will also get more multiplats than with the Wii along with Nintendo's large library of exclusives.

If Microsoft is forced out of the console market, it will be because of their low amount of exclusives.

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#79 campzor
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with sony being as big as they are and all the first party studios they have and all the relationships they have with 2nd/3rd party studios.they are not going anywhere. nintendo soley being a video game company... i cant really see going anywhere.. i mean it IS nintendo after all... microsoft... i can see them bailing out. But probably wont
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The Wii, its the weakest of the bunch.Secret-Face

We're talking about the next gen, and the Wii is actually been the console king in terms of sales.

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#81 mythrol
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Nintendo would be the easiest to bring down. Look at Japan right now. They're still all messed up, who knows how bad it will get there. MS and Sony are both diversified into other areas so much that they wouldn't be brought down by bad console sales. Nintendo lives or dies by their game division because it's all they have. Therefor, a bad round or two and you could see them in the same position as Sega.
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Nintendo would be the easiest to bring down. Look at Japan right now. They're still all messed up, who knows how bad it will get there. MS and Sony are both diversified into other areas so much that they wouldn't be brought down by bad console sales. Nintendo lives or dies by their game division because it's all they have. Therefor, a bad round or two and you could see them in the same position as Sega. mythrol

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#83 momentum_god
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[QUOTE="ArchaoN"][QUOTE="Lucianu"]

Microsoft would fail, they are basically babies in the console industry compared to Ninty and Sony, which both have gigantic fanbases.

Sony, on the other hand, has been struggling to make a profit as a whole, consistently for about a decade now. The PS2 carried them for several years and they flushed that advantage away by letting their primary competitor take the initiative to release a year ahed of them. ArchaoN

But the PS2 is the highest selling console of all time, and continues to sell and make plenty of money to this day. I think the reason why the PS3 was so pricey at first was because of the blu-ray, 6 years ago that wasn't common, i'm guessing.

The PS2 being the best selling console of all time does nothing for them now. The reality remains... They are not on good financial footing. If MS is as ruthless as they can be, they should release a new console asap, forcing Sony's hand. Sony cannot afford to release a new console now, as they have only started turning a profit within the last 12 months or so.

Sony doesn't need to release a new console, if MS released a new console now they would be shooting themselves in the foot, no good first party, everyone worried the thing is going to break on launch, only one who charges for online (a fact many people were unaware when they bought a 360 because it was the cheaper of the two) ect. ps3 could compete and win with any xbox released anytime soon
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#84 Lucianu
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Nintendo would be the easiest to bring down. Look at Japan right now. They're still all messed up, who knows how bad it will get there. MS and Sony are both diversified into other areas so much that they wouldn't be brought down by bad console sales. Nintendo lives or dies by their game division because it's all they have. Therefor, a bad round or two and you could see them in the same position as Sega. mythrol

Sony's homeland is Japan, it's a japanese conglomerate, and it's division called SCE (which includes consoles) has it's headquarters in Japan in which Kazuo Hirai is president & Group CEO of everything. SCE America is mearly a division of SCE, which SCE is a subsidiary of Sony Corporation.

Nintendo also has a division in America (Nintendo of America), and many offices in other countries. Though i agree Nintendo lives of dies by their console division because it's all they have. Sony is a conglomerate of many things, besides consoles.

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Neither really, but Microsoft and Nintendo are more successful this gen, so I guess teh Sony?SaltyMeatballs

i have a feeling another company is about to step into the ring:o

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#86 NaveedLife
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sure. in this scenario that'll never happen, it'd be awful if anyone but microsoft was the one to go.

theuncharted34

My thoughts exactly :P. And the PS3 is doing great, despite seeming as though it is not because of its early years and being released a year later than the 360. Besides, the tables can turn in anyones favor.

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#87 mythrol
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[QUOTE="mythrol"]Nintendo would be the easiest to bring down. Look at Japan right now. They're still all messed up, who knows how bad it will get there. MS and Sony are both diversified into other areas so much that they wouldn't be brought down by bad console sales. Nintendo lives or dies by their game division because it's all they have. Therefor, a bad round or two and you could see them in the same position as Sega. Lucianu

Sony's homeland is Japan, it's a japanese conglomerate, and it's division called SCE (which includes consoles) has it's headquarters in Japan in which Kazuo Hirai is president & Group CEO of everything. SCE America is mearly a division of SCE, which SCE is a subsidiary of Sony Corporation.

Nintendo also has a division in America (Nintendo of America), and many offices in other countries. Though i agree Nintendo lives of dies by their console division because it's all they have. Sony is a conglomerate of many things, besides consoles.

My point wasn't to ignore the fact that Sony is based out of Japan just like Nintendo. I just think Nintendo's strongest market is Japan and so if Japan falls Nintendo would be hurt worse. As you have pointed out, Sony has their hand in many different things, so the impact of the earthquakes/tsunami in Japan is less on them.
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All will surive to next gen, but I have a feeling next gen may be Sony's orMicrosoft's last.

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#89 Head_of_games
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Microsoft could start focusing more on the PC, and forget about charging for everything they possibly can. [spoiler] :lol: :lol: :lol: [/spoiler]
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Neither really, but Microsoft and Nintendo are more successful this gen, so I guess teh Sony?eboyishere

i have a feeling another company is about to step into the ring:o

I thought that as well, at one point, but then I feel that their business model wouldn't side well with console gamers. Upgrading hardware 2 times a year? No thanks.

*I'm assuming you are referring to Apple.

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#91 eboyishere
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[QUOTE="eboyishere"]

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Neither really, but Microsoft and Nintendo are more successful this gen, so I guess teh Sony?Heirren

i have a feeling another company is about to step into the ring:o

I thought that as well, at one point, but then I feel that their business model wouldn't side well with console gamers. Upgrading hardware 2 times a year? No thanks.

*I'm assuming you are referring to Apple.

i thought of apple but they are so turned on to touch screen devices so the only thing i can see them do is handhelds(which is the rumor)....but off the top of my head apple is the only other company i think that will try to RE ENTER the console fight...idk

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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]Neither really, but Microsoft and Nintendo are more successful this gen, so I guess teh Sony?eboyishere

i have a feeling another company is about to step into the ring:o

Maybe Sega would like to take another stab at the console market?:D

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[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="eboyishere"]

i have a feeling another company is about to step into the ring:o

eboyishere

I thought that as well, at one point, but then I feel that their business model wouldn't side well with console gamers. Upgrading hardware 2 times a year? No thanks.

*I'm assuming you are referring to Apple.

i thought of apple but they are so turned on to touch screen devices so the only thing i can see them do is handhelds(which is the rumor)....but off the top of my head apple is the only other company i think that will try to RE ENTER the console fight...idk

I suppose it would feel nice if Sega did, but it just doesn't make much sense. People are buying Sega games across 5 or 6 different platforms. Consoles typically create a loss, initially. Where is the gain in Sega re-entering the console market?

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#94 JohnF111
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It won't be balanced without a third party so i hope none leave or go in a different direction, having three keeps the balance of quality as if there was just two then both companies would be hugely profitable and they'd get lazy, "why spend more money on it, it's already going to sell well" and we will see shovelware to high heaven.
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It won't be balanced without a third party so i hope none leave or go in a different direction, having three keeps the balance of quality as if there was just two then both companies would be hugely profitable and they'd get lazy, "why spend more money on it, it's already going to sell well" and we will see shovelware to high heaven.JohnF111
That sounds like one company already. :lol:
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#96 eboyishere
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I thought that as well, at one point, but then I feel that their business model wouldn't side well with console gamers. Upgrading hardware 2 times a year? No thanks.

*I'm assuming you are referring to Apple.

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i thought of apple but they are so turned on to touch screen devices so the only thing i can see them do is handhelds(which is the rumor)....but off the top of my head apple is the only other company i think that will try to RE ENTER the console fight...idk

I suppose it would feel nice if Sega did, but it just doesn't make much sense. People are buying Sega games across 5 or 6 different platforms. Consoles typically create a loss, initially. Where is the gain in Sega re-entering the console market?

with sonic now coming out on both marketplace and psn store i think it's safe to say sega isnt coming back to the console fight

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#97 Jak-25
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Hmm...I can't really picture anyone of the big three leaving the gaming industry, but I wonder if Sega is ever gonna try agian in the console market, but I doubt they will.

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#98 TigerWars
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IMO if one of the big 3 were to fail I think it would be Playstation and there would only be Microsoft and Nintendo. That's purely based on what's happening right now with them.

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based on whats happening right now? you mean that the ps3 has now sold 50 million units and the xbox is probably just 1 million ahead? well based on that it probably microsoft

PS3 was excessively unprofitable for Sony though for a long time while 360 has made a lot for MS.

Yeah not to mention that MS has better software sales and charges 50 bucks a year for online. They're also raking in tons with Kinect now. Sony does have a great number of quality exclusives up its sleeves. the problem is, they never really sell as well as an Xbox exclusive.
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#99 momentum_god
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[QUOTE="TigerWars"][QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="NWA90s"] based on whats happening right now? you mean that the ps3 has now sold 50 million units and the xbox is probably just 1 million ahead? well based on that it probably microsoft

PS3 was excessively unprofitable for Sony though for a long time while 360 has made a lot for MS.

Yeah not to mention that MS has better software sales and charges 50 bucks a year for online. They're also raking in tons with Kinect now. Sony does have a great number of quality exclusives up its sleeves. the problem is, they never really sell as well as an Xbox exclusive.

MS has been less profitable then sony in software since 2009