If PC gaming is so expensive....

...why consoles dominate the rich countries (Japan, UK, USA etc) while PC dominates the poor (Easter Europe, China)? Just wondering....

I'm sure the PC dominates everywhere actually. I can't imagine many homes in a developed country lacking a PC of some kind.

easter europe's my favourite part of europe.

pc's are cheaper than consoles. but a decent pc that's capable of playing the most recent games with the highest settings cost about the same as a console. infact, if you were to go to your local best buy, game stop, pc world, or wherever you would probably get a gaming quality pc for much more than a console. the only way to get a gaming pc on the cheap is to source the components and build it

...why consoles dominate the rich countries (Japan, UK, USA etc) while PC dominates the poor (Easter Europe, China)? Just wondering....

True_Gamer_

becasue they are playing free mmos and or counterstrike 1.6 still, i mea come on Korea main eSport is Starcraft, now PC gamers are saying "oh PC gmaing is for poor people" yeah tell taht to Nvidia and their 600+ video card release. im sorry but for a nice card that will run crysis 2 it will cost you 250-360 dollars, provided thats all you nedd. anyway back to writing term paper.tehHaste

i always find it funny how PC gaming is so expensive yet nobody ever mentions having to buy a $2000 hdtv so you get can HD resolutions out of your HD consoles

why do people always gloss over the cost of the tv? sure you use it for other things than gaming, guess what you use PC's for a lot more than gaming as well, and even then you still won't reach the astronomical costs of being a member of the HDTV gaming club

becasue they are playing free mmos and or counterstrike 1.6 still, i mea come on Korea main eSport is Starcraft, now PC gamers are saying "oh PC gmaing is for poor people" yeah tell taht to Nvidia and their 600+ video card release. im sorry but for a nice card that will run crysis 2 it will cost you 250-360 dollars, provided thats all you nedd. anyway back to writing term paper.tehHaste

Piracy. From what i saw overseas in Thailand, there were practially no legitimate sales of pc games anywhere. From every street corner vender to every high end mall, i saw nothing but racks full of copied, pirated software. The same went for Wii and Xbox360 also. But the preference was definately pc.

well pc gaming is cheap if they play pirated games.

[QUOTE="tehHaste"]becasue they are playing free mmos and or counterstrike 1.6 still, i mea come on Korea main eSport is Starcraft, now PC gamers are saying "oh PC gmaing is for poor people" yeah tell taht to Nvidia and their 600+ video card release. im sorry but for a nice card that will run crysis 2 it will cost you 250-360 dollars, provided thats all you nedd. anyway back to writing term paper.True_Gamer_

$600 for a real computer? nah

cant get something good with $600 unless you use pirated software. win7 is $150....and that leaves you $450 for hardware.

win7 RC? lol does MS still support it? i think all RC will become pirated soon.

$450 for case, cpu, psu, motherboard, ram, hdd, dvd rom or perhaps blue-ray. hmm...i doubt you can get something good.

What makes you think eastern Europe and China are poor?

i always find it funny how PC gaming is so expensive yet nobody ever mentions having to buy a $2000 hdtv so you get can HD resolutions out of your HD consoles

why do people always gloss over the cost of the tv? sure you use it for other things than gaming, guess what you use PC's for a lot more than gaming as well, and even then you still won't reach the astronomical costs of being a member of the HDTV gaming club

88mphSlayer

pc dominates everywhere due to customization.

[QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

i always find it funny how PC gaming is so expensive yet nobody ever mentions having to buy a $2000 hdtv so you get can HD resolutions out of your HD consoles

why do people always gloss over the cost of the tv? sure you use it for other things than gaming, guess what you use PC's for a lot more than gaming as well, and even then you still won't reach the astronomical costs of being a member of the HDTV gaming club

fastr

I got my 24 inch 1920x1080 monitor for 180$.

[QUOTE="fastr"][QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

i always find it funny how PC gaming is so expensive yet nobody ever mentions having to buy a $2000 hdtv so you get can HD resolutions out of your HD consoles

why do people always gloss over the cost of the tv? sure you use it for other things than gaming, guess what you use PC's for a lot more than gaming as well, and even then you still won't reach the astronomical costs of being a member of the HDTV gaming club

topgunmv

I got my 24 inch 1920x1080 monitor for 180$.

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="fastr"] right... or you could get a 32 in hd tv for under 400 dollars easily.. or a very nice sony 1080p 52 inch for like 1500... also people like having big nice tv's for other things like movies and tv.. ya know.. sports, its not only for gaming, i'm not saying a monitor is either, but a nice monitor isn't cheap either when you consider how easy it is to get a bigger hd tv for not much more. fastr

I got my 24 inch 1920x1080 monitor for 180$.

You pay twice as much for 8 extra inches. Is that tv 1080p?

PC gaming isn't THAT expensive.

Some people can get a decent rig around the same price as the PS3's launch.

^ HDMI cable.ritz2

My guess is because most people in rich countries can afford a console in addition to their PC. In poorer countries, people just use the PC for everything, gaming included, because they can't afford both.

[QUOTE="fastr"][QUOTE="topgunmv"]

I got my 24 inch 1920x1080 monitor for 180$.

topgunmv

You pay twice as much for 8 extra inches. Is that tv 1080p?

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="fastr"] Ok, i got my 32 in hd tv for 480, and I could get the same tv now for about 350. So I paid 170 more then you, have a tv, a monitor, and an extra 8 inches, I'm cool with that. fastr

You pay twice as much for 8 extra inches. Is that tv 1080p?

So less resolution and bigger so you can notice it, nice. My monitor is on my desk, about a foot from my face. I'm willing to bet the picture I get is much better than yours.

Monitors are well known to have better image quality than any TVs not using OLED. The pixel texts on my tv is just >.>

[QUOTE="fastr"][QUOTE="topgunmv"]

You pay twice as much for 8 extra inches. Is that tv 1080p?

topgunmv

So less resolution and bigger so you can notice it, nice. My monitor is on my desk, about a foot from my face. I'm willing to bet the picture I get is much better than yours.

...why consoles dominate the rich countries (Japan, UK, USA etc) while PC dominates the poor (Easter Europe, China)? Just wondering....

True_Gamer_

i always find it funny how PC gaming is so expensive yet nobody ever mentions having to buy a $2000 hdtv so you get can HD resolutions out of your HD consoles

why do people always gloss over the cost of the tv? sure you use it for other things than gaming, guess what you use PC's for a lot more than gaming as well, and even then you still won't reach the astronomical costs of being a member of the HDTV gaming club

[QUOTE="fastr"][QUOTE="topgunmv"]

You pay twice as much for 8 extra inches. Is that tv 1080p?

topgunmv

So less resolution and bigger so you can notice it, nice. My monitor is on my desk, about a foot from my face. I'm willing to bet the picture I get is much better than yours.

No, actually, resolution is the fourth most important factor for image quality according to the Image Science Foundation. Before it come contrast ratio, color accuracy and color saturation. I think they know a bit more than you on the topic.

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="fastr"] no and don't kid youtself that it matters on your tiny screen. I wouldn't buy a 24 in anything even if it was 100 dollarsKiZZo1

So less resolution and bigger so you can notice it, nice. My monitor is on my desk, about a foot from my face. I'm willing to bet the picture I get is much better than yours.

No, actually, resolution is the fourth most important factor for image quality according to the Image Science Foundation. Before it come contrast ratio, color accuracy and color saturation. I think they know a bit more than you on the topic.

I was referring to viewing distance versus screen size and resolution. Nice try though, continue patting yourself on the back.

[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

So less resolution and bigger so you can notice it, nice. My monitor is on my desk, about a foot from my face. I'm willing to bet the picture I get is much better than yours.

topgunmv

No, actually, resolution is the fourth most important factor for image quality according to the Image Science Foundation. Before it come contrast ratio, color accuracy and color saturation. I think they know a bit more than you on the topic.

I was referring to viewing distance versus screen size and resolution. Nice try though, continue patting yourself on the back.

No, you said: "I'm willing to bet the picture I get is much better than yours."

I say - to prove that you must also show that your monitor has better contrast ratio, color saturation and color accuracy.

...why consoles dominate the rich countries (Japan, UK, USA etc) while PC dominates the poor (Easter Europe, China)? Just wondering....

True_Gamer_

Germany for e.g. loves PC, and are not at all "poor".

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

No, actually, resolution is the fourth most important factor for image quality according to the Image Science Foundation. Before it come contrast ratio, color accuracy and color saturation. I think they know a bit more than you on the topic.

KiZZo1

I was referring to viewing distance versus screen size and resolution. Nice try though, continue patting yourself on the back.

No, you said: "I'm willing to bet the picture I get is much better than yours."

I say - to prove that you must also show that your monitor has better contrast ratio, color saturation and color accuracy.

In both cases there's nothing wrong with my statement anyways. If he thinks his television has better specs he's welcome to post them.

[QUOTE="stiggy321"]UHhh... China is not a poor country. I think you're referring to South Korea. The average uh... person... doesn't buy an 800 dollar computer just for games... let alone a 2,600 dollar one. They buy a 600 dollar computer for windows movie maker from best buy, and a Wii for their kids.Ravensmash

South Korea is not poor. It is a first world country. Comparable to Japan.

China is not a poor country, and in fact has the world's 3rd largest economy. But the disparity between rich and poor is much larger than you would find in a country like South Korea or the USA.

The market for consoles and/or PC's in other countries is always going to be different, and prices vary considerably, even between EU markets. eg, games in the UK generally RRP at around £40-£50, whereas in Portugal they RRP at €70-€80, which is considerably higher than in the UK when you convert the currencies. Also, in the UK the prices for games fall relatively quickly compared to Portugal, where prices remain high, and the used games market is also small.

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="fastr"] no and don't kid youtself that it matters on your tiny screen. I wouldn't buy a 24 in anything even if it was 100 dollarsKiZZo1

So less resolution and bigger so you can notice it, nice. My monitor is on my desk, about a foot from my face. I'm willing to bet the picture I get is much better than yours.

No, actually, resolution is the fourth most important factor for image quality according to the Image Science Foundation. Before it come contrast ratio, color accuracy and color saturation. I think they know a bit more than you on the topic.

[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

So less resolution and bigger so you can notice it, nice. My monitor is on my desk, about a foot from my face. I'm willing to bet the picture I get is much better than yours.

fastr

No, actually, resolution is the fourth most important factor for image quality according to the Image Science Foundation. Before it come contrast ratio, color accuracy and color saturation. I think they know a bit more than you on the topic.

Actually at that size you'd have to sit several feet away before the difference doesn't matter. If your naked eye can't tell the difference then I suggest you visit your optometrist.

Well you keep lying to yourself, I'll keep watching my bigger tv while relaxing on my couch. fastr

http://myhometheater.homestead.com/viewingdistancecalculator.html

I guess THX distance recommendations are lies huh?

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="fastr"] no and don't kid youtself that it matters on your tiny screen. I wouldn't buy a 24 in anything even if it was 100 dollarsKiZZo1

So less resolution and bigger so you can notice it, nice. My monitor is on my desk, about a foot from my face. I'm willing to bet the picture I get is much better than yours.

No, actually, resolution is the fourth most important factor for image quality according to the Image Science Foundation. Before it come contrast ratio, color accuracy and color saturation. I think they know a bit more than you on the topic.

I'm sure the PC dominates everywhere actually. I can't imagine many homes in a developed country lacking a PC of some kind.

Kickinurass

...why consoles dominate the rich countries (Japan, UK, USA etc) while PC dominates the poor (Easter Europe, China)? Just wondering....

True_Gamer_

i always find it funny how PC gaming is so expensive yet nobody ever mentions having to buy a $2000 hdtv so you get can HD resolutions out of your HD consoles

why do people always gloss over the cost of the tv? sure you use it for other things than gaming, guess what you use PC's for a lot more than gaming as well, and even then you still won't reach the astronomical costs of being a member of the HDTV gaming club

88mphSlayer

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="tehHaste"]becasue they are playing free mmos and or counterstrike 1.6 still, i mea come on Korea main eSport is Starcraft, now PC gamers are saying "oh PC gmaing is for poor people" yeah tell taht to Nvidia and their 600+ video card release. im sorry but for a nice card that will run crysis 2 it will cost you 250-360 dollars, provided thats all you nedd. anyway back to writing term paper.oajlu

$600 for a real computer? nah

cant get something good with $600 unless you use pirated software. win7 is $150....and that leaves you $450 for hardware.

win7 RC? lol does MS still support it? i think all RC will become pirated soon.

$450 for case, cpu, psu, motherboard, ram, hdd, dvd rom or perhaps blue-ray. hmm...i doubt you can get something good.

notice this

[QUOTE="oajlu"]

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"] So I need a $600 GPU to run games at UBER console details? 600p 30fps 0AA?True_Gamer_

$600 for a real computer? nah

cant get something good with $600 unless you use pirated software. win7 is $150....and that leaves you $450 for hardware.

win7 RC? lol does MS still support it? i think all RC will become pirated soon.

$450 for case, cpu, psu, motherboard, ram, hdd, dvd rom or perhaps blue-ray. hmm...i doubt you can get something good.

notice this

I got windows 7 for 30 odd $.

[QUOTE="oajlu"]

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"] So I need a $600 GPU to run games at UBER console details? 600p 30fps 0AA?True_Gamer_

$600 for a real computer? nah

cant get something good with $600 unless you use pirated software. win7 is $150....and that leaves you $450 for hardware.

win7 RC? lol does MS still support it? i think all RC will become pirated soon.

$450 for case, cpu, psu, motherboard, ram, hdd, dvd rom or perhaps blue-ray. hmm...i doubt you can get something good.

notice this

Windows 7 is $100. And you can find a decent gaming rig for that leftover $500.