If PS4 is so powerful, why does COD look better on X1

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#151  Edited By StormyJoe
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@misterpmedia said:

@StormyJoe said:

This may be the dumbest thread of the month. Seriously, don't make shit up just to demonstrate your inner "moo".

What am I making up?

XB1 multiplats are not "broken". A different resolution is just that, it is not a "broken" game. The difference between PS4 and XB1 multiplats is basically a minor resolution issue. That's it.

The PS3's version of Skyrim is an example of a "broken" multiplat.

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#152 StormyJoe
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So we've gone from pixel counting to frame rate counting, is that it?

If anyone can make out the difference when the game drops from 60 to 58 frames for 0.3 seconds with the naked eye, well, have a cookie.

Fanboys this gen have become laughable. In previous generations, there often have been massive differences in multiplat games. Now you're down to nitpicking wit a magnifying glass, blowing things out of proportion to a ridiculous degree.

Both games look the same. Hell, if you only look at the gameplay footage in DF's comparison videos, it looks like are running a copy of the same clip side by side.

EXACTLY.

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#153  Edited By clr84651
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@aroxx_ab said:

Because you need your eyes checked

This and it's obvious that the only difference is the brightness and or contrast setting in each video.

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#154 clr84651
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

Now if the shoe was on the other foot, cows would be having another "PS4 destroys XBOX" thread.

Instead we have this thread taking a dump on the PS4 and weak ass damage control from them.

It's only a difference of the brightness and or contrast setting on each video. Nothing to do with the actual games.

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#155  Edited By deactivated-5b0367b217732
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Another day, another lousy thread on SW... *sigh*

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#157 donalbane
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Because frame rate is more important than resolution in competitive shooters.

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#158 SoftwareGeek
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I think they are really close. Any differences is just nitpicking. I'd be happy playing the game on either system.

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#159 MikeHockbourns
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@SecretPolice said:

@Shewgenja said:

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Sophisticated, highly engineered Balanced hardware design > Off the shelf parts thrown together in an Unbalanced design... There's your answer. :P.

So, in other words, utter delusion.

Nothin but the fax mam. :P

This is weird, why does the X1 version perform better? You actually might be right.

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#160 lglz1337
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Lemmings stll think that 3rd grade crushed black console is powerfull ?

try to run this game @ full hd 1080p on that XposBone LOL

SLideshow!

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#161 intotheminx
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@StormyJoe said:

@thegreatgeneral said:

Im still loling how lemmings wanted to play victim in the graphics war for the whole year but celebrate a 5-10 fps advantage in the singeplayer part of a COD while the game runs with 40% less pixels. Those three threads are like a little view on how the lemmings would behave this year if MS didnt make such an weak console.

Waiting for the next multiplat to release just to see them make another 180 on the matter.

B-but graphics dont matter

Yeah, that 180p really makes a difference... LOL! Dude, the games look and play the same. That's 180p is PR bullshit and you know it.

I just realized everyone on SW argues over a 180p difference......If that is a deciding factor when buying a console I feel sorry for some people. That resolution is not a major difference and really isn't that noticeable. I don't know if your trolling or not, but it's true.

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#162 GTSaiyanjin2
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xbone still can't run games at 1080p... and cod of all games lol... what a joke the xbone has been this gen.

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What resolutions do each version run at?

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#164 arkephonic
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If ps4 is 1080p and xbone is 900p, a couple frames per second increase just shows how weak xbone is. On pc when you alter resolution from 900 to 1080, you get more than a couple frames. Xbone is a joke because it can't even play cod in 1080p.

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#165 danlevm
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I own both consoles.....wondering why the colors are so different? resolution is nearly impossible to see unless it's a direct feed that you're witnessing....in all honesty, why bash someone else 's choice? the game on all platforms looks fantastic

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#166 MikeHockbourns
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@arkephonic said:

If ps4 is 1080p and xbone is 900p, a couple frames per second increase just shows how weak xbone is. On pc when you alter resolution from 900 to 1080, you get more than a couple frames. Xbone is a joke because it can't even play cod in 1080p.

1080p and 900p is not as important as the ps4 dipping to the 50 fps. In a competitive shooter, the fps matters much more than resolution.

@GTSaiyanjin2 said:

xbone still can't run games at 1080p... and cod of all games lol... what a joke the xbone has been this gen.

The bigger joke to me is that the ps4 can't run it at 60fps and the xbox one can. Killzone was pretty choppy at 30fps, no matter how good the graphics seemed to be, the framerate ruined that game.

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#167 TheGreatGeneral
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@mikehockbourns said:

@arkephonic said:

If ps4 is 1080p and xbone is 900p, a couple frames per second increase just shows how weak xbone is. On pc when you alter resolution from 900 to 1080, you get more than a couple frames. Xbone is a joke because it can't even play cod in 1080p.

1080p and 900p is not as important as the ps4 dipping to the 50 fps. In a competitive shooter, the fps matters much more than resolution.

Then you must be happy to hear that the PS4 runs the MP at 60fps and is still locked at 1080p while the xbone has greater dips in gameplay ~56fps and runs at 900p locked (Dont remember the real resolution), has tearing and black crush.

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#168  Edited By arkephonic
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People ITT have little to no experience with PC gaming or a general understanding of how game hardware works in correlation to game software. Anyone who has played PC games and tinkered with graphical settings knows that you can get higher frames per second when altering graphical settings. Fact of the matter is, Xbone needed to lower the resolution from 1080p down to 900p in order to obtain acceptable frames per second. They would have kept it at 1080p if it could perform, but odds are that the Xbone was running in the 40 frames per second realm while running at 1080p. This has been the case with most Xbone multiplats thus far. Things like decreasing draw distance, eliminating ambient occlusion, using lesser forms of anti-aliasing, decreasing foliage, lowering resolution, all to get acceptable performance in frames per second that are comparable to the PS4.

For example, with a nice gaming rig, you can play Battlefield 4 on ultra graphical settings at 60 fps but on a lesser gaming rig, you might need to lower the graphical settings to medium to obtain a solid 60 fps. Not to mention, anyone who has done a lot of PC gaming knows that the difference in 900p to 1080p is HUGE. I can tell a game isn't running in 1080p from the moment I see the menu screen. I can't game on anything on my PC that is less than 1080p.

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#169 PS4hasNOgames
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All of you butt-hurt cows flagged my posts, you couldn't take the butt hurt any longer. Now go cry while waiting on a flop, while I play the best games on the xbox won.

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#170 Kjranu
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You realize they look exactly same, right? The only real difference I notice is the PS4 version has brightness turned way high.

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#171  Edited By TheGreatGeneral
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@ps4hasnogames said:

All of you butt-hurt cows flagged my posts, you couldn't take the butt hurt any longer. Now go cry while waiting on a flop, while I play the best games on the xbox won.

Wow, someone is mad their thread backfired.

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@arkephonic said:

People ITT have little to no experience with PC gaming or a general understanding of how game hardware works in correlation to game software. Anyone who has played PC games and tinkered with graphical settings knows that you can get higher frames per second when altering graphical settings. Fact of the matter is, Xbone needed to lower the resolution from 1080p down to 900p in order to obtain acceptable frames per second. They would have kept it at 1080p if it could perform, but odds are that the Xbone was running in the 40 frames per second realm while running at 1080p. This has been the case with most Xbone multiplats thus far. Things like decreasing draw distance, eliminating ambient occlusion, using lesser forms of anti-aliasing, decreasing foliage, lowering resolution, all to get acceptable performance in frames per second that are comparable to the PS4.

For example, with a nice gaming rig, you can play Battlefield 4 on ultra graphical settings at 60 fps but on a lesser gaming rig, you might need to lower the graphical settings to medium to obtain a solid 60 fps. Not to mention, anyone who has done a lot of PC gaming knows that the difference in 900p to 1080p is HUGE. I can tell a game isn't running in 1080p from the moment I see the menu screen. I can't game on anything on my PC that is less than 1080p.

900p is kind of a different situation on PC though. PC gaming in 900p will look bad on a monitor or TV because it's actually displaying at a resolution that is not native to the display. Any resolution less than 1080p on a 1080p monitor will look bad when playing on PC. However, since this is the set resolution for some Xbox One games, you don't get such poor image quality because it's being upscaled to 1080p. My TV still says that it's 1080p while playing Xbox One games that are 900p, but if I switch the resolution to 900p with my PC, the entire resolution of the TV changes to that, causing this poor image quality. Hell, I can't even really tell the difference between the PC version of Titanfall in 1080p and the Xbox version in 792p. When you're sitting 8-10 feet away from your TV you're really not going to notice these differences.

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#173 PS4hasNOgames
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@thegreatgeneral said:

@ps4hasnogames said:

All of you butt-hurt cows flagged my posts, you couldn't take the butt hurt any longer. Now go cry while waiting on a flop, while I play the best games on the xbox won.

Wow, someone is mad their thread backfired.

it didn't backfire lol. the x1 version still looks better and has better framerate. its you guys who are mad flagging every single one of my posts because you can't handle the butt-hurt any longer. maybe you all should do a group-on for lube.

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@Kjranu said:

You realize they look exactly same, right? The only real difference I notice is the PS4 version has brightness turned way high.

He's not going to notice....you know what they say....ignorance is bliss.

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#175  Edited By TheGreatGeneral
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@ps4hasnogames said:

@thegreatgeneral said:

@ps4hasnogames said:

All of you butt-hurt cows flagged my posts, you couldn't take the butt hurt any longer. Now go cry while waiting on a flop, while I play the best games on the xbox won.

Wow, someone is mad their thread backfired.

1. it didn't backfire lol.

2. the x1 version still looks better and has better framerate

1. Yes it did

2. You are lying

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#176 lostrib
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@Kjranu said:

You realize they look exactly same, right? The only real difference I notice is the PS4 version has brightness turned way high.

the PS4 version is actually sharper in comparison screen shots because of the resolution difference.

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@lostrib said:

@Kjranu said:

You realize they look exactly same, right? The only real difference I notice is the PS4 version has brightness turned way high.

the PS4 version is actually sharper in comparison screen shots because of the resolution difference.

ps4 version looks like a cartoon, x1 version looks more realistic.

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#178 lostrib
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@ps4hasnogames said:

@lostrib said:

@Kjranu said:

You realize they look exactly same, right? The only real difference I notice is the PS4 version has brightness turned way high.

the PS4 version is actually sharper in comparison screen shots because of the resolution difference.

ps4 version looks like a cartoon, x1 version looks more realistic.

get your eyes checked

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#179 AtariKidX
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The only real difference i can see is the PS4 version has more brightness.....and that is all.And the PS4 version is actually sharper.SDC.

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#180  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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@ps4hasnogames said:

@lostrib said:

@Kjranu said:

You realize they look exactly same, right? The only real difference I notice is the PS4 version has brightness turned way high.

the PS4 version is actually sharper in comparison screen shots because of the resolution difference.

ps4 version looks like a cartoon, x1 version looks more realistic.

#Xbone'd.

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#181 Mr_Huggles_dog
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I wish I could make shit threads, lie, and not have them locked.

I envy the TC.

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#182  Edited By SolidTy
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

I wish I could make shit threads, lie, and not have them locked.

I envy the TC.

Peculiar.

Another COD thread was just locked, for being "damage control thread from another topic", but that's exactly what this thread was. This thread quite literally was a "Damage Control" response thread from another topic. Trolling was added in. This thread's genesis comes from other thread(s) I listed/linked below. You can even see the TC in those threads doing DC before creating this very thread...very odd.

I'll just find my post in this thread again:

@SolidTy said:

DUPE THREAD.

This is the 5th thread on the COD:AW PS4/XBONE subject all on the front page. This is just troll spam as the TC posted the same info in other COD threads.

If you wanted the answer, feel free to read the posts in these FOUR other COD threads about the SAME COD:AW TOPIC.

I'll LINK THE SW COD threads on page one alone:

Sony trying to punch above it's weight class with COD:AW?

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/sony-trying-to-punch-above-its-weight-class-with-c-31685864/#192

and

Xbone can't handle CoD: Advance Whatever in 1080p

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/xbone-cant-handle-cod-advance-whatever-in-1080p-31640639/#234

and

X1 gets a slight resolution boost with Advanced Warfare

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/x1-gets-a-slight-resolution-boost-with-advanced-wa-31683664/#113

and

COD AW is actually a good port this time around

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/cod-aw-is-actually-a-good-pc-port-this-time-around-31687269/#158

At this point, this COD thread is just a waste of time since it's redundant to an extreme.

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#183 p3anut
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Blacks are darker on X1 and I noticed PS4 dips more in fps than the X1.

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#184 mojito1988
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I donno I think 8 bit games from the NES days look better (and more fun) than this "mature" war game but that's just me lol.

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@p3anut said:

Blacks are darker on X1 and I noticed PS4 dips more in fps than the X1.

Just in SP.

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#186  Edited By eNT1TY
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XB1 version does not look better (nor does it look significantly worse overall) and has some instances of lower quality assets particularly speculars and to a lesser degree particle density. To observe properly view the images in the correct size and not just the thumbnail.

Note the difference in all the shinier materials (the boxes primarily which are very close up in the scene). The xb1 version has lower quality and lower detail mapping going on on those surfaces in additition to much lower quality decals where text is illegible and detail completely gone. Notice the other objects and surfaces and textures are unaffected (like walls, the monitors, ceiling lighting fixtures etc) and asset quality remains the same minus the clarity and sharpeness of the resolution differences. In the former example it's not a rez difference but rather an asset reducution that is not present on the other objects and surfaces even the further away ones. Also note there is half the amount of dust particles floating around in the xb1 pic.

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#187 Heil68
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So graphics only matter when they are referenced the"best" on your console? What about all the other articles about other games,..lol

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#188 reggy72
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@eNT1TY:

Look identical to me mate, usual storm in a teacup nit picking bullshit, so system wars as usual.

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Because the PS4 is powered by hype and good intentions, not actual hardware.

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#190  Edited By AtariKidX
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CoD: Advanced Warfare is best on PS4..................the END.

Owners of Sony's latest kit enjoy a pure, true, unadulterated 1080p image throughout the game, planting its flag closest to the PC's pristine standard of presentation.

Overall, the PS4's superior image quality compared with Xbox One makes it the choice pick on the multiplayer front, with both holding up here at 60fps. As for the campaign mode's playability, it's an apples and oranges contest between the Xbox One's performance lead and the PS4's resolution advantages, with little else in-between.

Better luck next time XBone.......lololol

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#191  Edited By peafowlplumage
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@foxhound_fox: The hype I agree with. But what good intentions? PSN costing money sounds pretty scummy to me

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Nonsensical thread with no basis what so ever. Yet, still not locked. We need new mods.

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#193 MK-Professor
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@SuddenlyTragic said:

@arkephonic said:

People ITT have little to no experience with PC gaming or a general understanding of how game hardware works in correlation to game software. Anyone who has played PC games and tinkered with graphical settings knows that you can get higher frames per second when altering graphical settings. Fact of the matter is, Xbone needed to lower the resolution from 1080p down to 900p in order to obtain acceptable frames per second. They would have kept it at 1080p if it could perform, but odds are that the Xbone was running in the 40 frames per second realm while running at 1080p. This has been the case with most Xbone multiplats thus far. Things like decreasing draw distance, eliminating ambient occlusion, using lesser forms of anti-aliasing, decreasing foliage, lowering resolution, all to get acceptable performance in frames per second that are comparable to the PS4.

For example, with a nice gaming rig, you can play Battlefield 4 on ultra graphical settings at 60 fps but on a lesser gaming rig, you might need to lower the graphical settings to medium to obtain a solid 60 fps. Not to mention, anyone who has done a lot of PC gaming knows that the difference in 900p to 1080p is HUGE. I can tell a game isn't running in 1080p from the moment I see the menu screen. I can't game on anything on my PC that is less than 1080p.

900p is kind of a different situation on PC though. PC gaming in 900p will look bad on a monitor or TV because it's actually displaying at a resolution that is not native to the display. Any resolution less than 1080p on a 1080p monitor will look bad when playing on PC. However, since this is the set resolution for some Xbox One games, you don't get such poor image quality because it's being upscaled to 1080p. My TV still says that it's 1080p while playing Xbox One games that are 900p, but if I switch the resolution to 900p with my PC, the entire resolution of the TV changes to that, causing this poor image quality. Hell, I can't even really tell the difference between the PC version of Titanfall in 1080p and the Xbox version in 792p. When you're sitting 8-10 feet away from your TV you're really not going to notice these differences.

900p upscaled cannot look any better than 900p on a native display, no matter how much you upscaled, but if your monitor/TV don't have good good upscaled capabilities 900p on a 1080p display can look worse than 900p on a native 900p display. So in order to be independent from the monitor/TV upscaled capabilities this job is done by the console it self. Exactly the same is happening with the PC in every game, the only differences with PC is that you can CHOOSE between monitor/TV upscale OR GPU upscale.

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#194  Edited By GrenadeLauncher
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Oh, there's StormyJoke insisting that the PS4 pushing out 500,000 more pixels and keeping a better frame rate and more graphical effects really isn't a big deal you guys shut up already!

I almost feel sorry for lemmings at this point, they're losing the last few straws they grasp at and they're struggling to keep their heads above water.

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#196  Edited By GrenadeLauncher
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@Link3301 said:
@FastRobby said:
@scottpsfan14 said:

As for color, change the brightness and contrast settings perhaps? Framerate is better because it's running with 50% less pixels on screen and less on screen effects.

Framerate is king for shooters... Much more important than some pixels, and pixel quality also more important than pixel quantity

Pixel quality, wat?

It's some bullshit lemmings made up to justify their shittier hardware. I've looked it up and only seen it used in reference to digital photography.

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#198  Edited By GamersJustGame
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@waxifu said:

@gamersjustgame said:

@chikenfriedrice: but the X11 isn't set at 900p............

really? Gamers Just game? Whose fucking alt are you cuase you sure as hell ain't mine? Who were you before you got banned and reinfagnated?

Its a known fact that the X1 version is not 900p. 1300(+) x 1080p. So by what math does your moronic brain arrive at 900p?

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#199  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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@eNT1TY said:

XB1 version does not look better (nor does it look significantly worse overall) and has some instances of lower quality assets particularly speculars and to a lesser degree particle density. To observe properly view the images in the correct size and not just the thumbnail.

Note the difference in all the shinier materials (the boxes primarily which are very close up in the scene). The xb1 version has lower quality and lower detail mapping going on on those surfaces in additition to much lower quality decals where text is illegible and detail completely gone. Notice the other objects and surfaces and textures are unaffected (like walls, the monitors, ceiling lighting fixtures etc) and asset quality remains the same minus the clarity and sharpeness of the resolution differences. In the former example it's not a rez difference but rather an asset reducution that is not present on the other objects and surfaces even the further away ones. Also note there is half the amount of dust particles floating around in the xb1 pic.

Not a bad comparison, the lower rendering resolution definitely comes through strongly when looked at side by side, the xbone just looks blurry. Particularly in object detail, like those boxes.

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#200 Mr-Kutaragi
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@SolidGame_basic said:

Nonsensical thread with no basis what so ever. Yet, still not locked. We need new mods.

Lemspot here to make lem feel better. The mod do not even try to hide bias anymore.

And lol still waiting for june sdk @StormyJoe