If Super Mario Galaxy Did Not Move Consoles Then What Will?

[QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

I was talking on a different level than just 'me.' I was saying a 'gamer' agrees with the review. and Gamers have the highest credibility.

lord_aquinas

I'm a gamer. so how is my credibility any less than yours?

Other reviewers arent gamers? I'm not a gamer? the majority of people on GS arent gamers? well you are wrong about that one too.

something for everyone: GTA, God of War, Final Fantasy

[QUOTE="Weslii"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

[QUOTE="shoeman12"]you do realize there is still a supply shortage of wiis and they all sell out within a half an hour of being in the store, right?lord_aquinas

maybe for you. but we've got plenty here in Australia. I think most of the stores here would be happy to take them of their hands...

Don't count your chicken's before they hatch. I just showed how PS3 has the ability to increase sales. If you can't deny that then I guess it appears i must be correct. If we were debating on philosophical terms that is.

Alright. I'll "Just wait"

[QUOTE="lord_aquinas"][QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

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I didn't know that you already saw numbers for SMG. As for future titles, there is SSBB.

Manly-manly-man

Again. You're missing my point. PS3 has story driven games that are guaranteed to move consoles. That offer something new to gamers. SSBB is unreliable as it could flop, given gamers have played the same non sotry driven formula on previous consoles.

And you completely missed our points. Nintendo has sold all of their consoles. They cant possibly sell more. NO game can sell more consoles when there are no more consoles to sell.

we have plenty of consoles here in Australia. I didn't see too many rushing out to buy a Wii with a copy of Super Mario Galaxy...

[QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

I was talking on a different level than just 'me.' I was saying a 'gamer' agrees with the review. and Gamers have the highest credibility.

lord_aquinas

Other reviewers arent gamers? I'm not a gamer? the majority of people on GS arent gamers? well you are wrong about that one too.

Considering that you are a Sony fanboy, and most other gamers disagree with you, yes.

1. Crystal ball

2. whatever

3. And the wii games you mentioned are suposed to be story driven?

laughingman42

no but i still don't agree with games that have no story. I'm not a madden fan.

[QUOTE="Gemini_Red"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"][QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

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I didn't know that you already saw numbers for SMG. As for future titles, there is SSBB.

lord_aquinas

Again. You're missing my point. (1.)PS3 has story driven games that are guaranteed to move consoles. (2.)That offer something new to gamers. (3.)SSBB is unreliable as it could flop, given gamers have played the same non sotry driven formula on previous consoles.

1. Yes they have done a great job of moving the consoles so far, haven't they? :roll:

2. Yeah, you know like Oblivion, Guitar Hero, Madden, Resistance...........braaaaaaaaaand new crap. Consider me wowed.

3. How much does Madden sell every year again? Where is the story there?

1. My point is that when those games are released - the PS3 will sell through the roof
2. ummm I just said GTA, Final Fantasy, God of War.
3. it's not intended to be a story driven game. People know this. Plus it's a multi-plat.

1. I'll believe it when I see it, sparky. It was supposed to sell through the roof once it was released too, but that didn't happen.

2. GTA, Final Fantasy, and God of War...........interesting. Isn't the complaint you had about Nintendo was the rehashing? Yet you choose a franchise that has been out for 20 years(Final Fantasy) another for 10(GTA) and another that will get it's third sequel before too long.

3. Yes, and people are going to be so surprised to find out that SSBB is not story driven. I can see the riots in the streets now once the truth is found out. Multi-plat or not, Madden still sells like crazy for not being a story driven game.

At this point you are just grasping for straws. Here is your Sony fanboy sticker, welcome to system wars and try to develop better arguements.

So you think you can not read my post, then write a comment? You should probably have a read of my posts and it will show you why they won't move consoles.

lord_aquinas

[QUOTE="lord_aquinas"][QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

I was talking on a different level than just 'me.' I was saying a 'gamer' agrees with the review. and Gamers have the highest credibility.

laughingman42

Other reviewers arent gamers? I'm not a gamer? the majority of people on GS arent gamers? well you are wrong about that one too.

Considering that you are a Sony fanboy, and most other gamers disagree with you, yes.

so quick to jump to the conclusion that i'm a sony fanboy...when i actually am not. I just call it like it is. Let's get backon topic shall we?

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

Poor young SMG. It promised so much yet delivered so little

lord_aquinas

Hmmm...Variety stated that it had one of the worst two player experiences ever seen in a game. They also stated that the controls were poor and the gameplay was far too easy - a common problem on Nintendo consoles.

lol, its official. You fail.

Official Gamespot Troll Review Form

Title of Troll Post: If Super Mario Galaxy Did Not Move Consoles Then What Will?
Validity of Troll's Arguement (out of 10): 0/10
Gross Oversights committed by Troll: Wii is currently sold out, and as such nothing can "Move it"
Troll's acknowledgement of his idiocy: Absolutely none.
Troll acknowledgement of counter-points provided by fellow members: Absolutely none
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Probability of Troll Post: 95%

[QUOTE="laughingman42"]

1. Crystal ball

2. whatever

3. And the wii games you mentioned are suposed to be story driven?

lord_aquinas

I'm not a madden fan.

and yet madden still sells. I guess your opinion doesnt determine the rest of theof the gaming communities opinion.

[QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

So you think you can not read my post, then write a comment? You should probably have a read of my posts and it will show you why they won't move consoles.

nintendofreak_2

well people can't PROVE anything. But I showed why they are likely to not move consoles.

[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

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I didn't know that you already saw numbers for SMG. As for future titles, there is SSBB.

lord_aquinas

Again. You're missing my point. PS3 has story driven games that are guaranteed to move consoles. That offer something new to gamers. SSBB is unreliable as it could flop, given gamers have played the same non sotry driven formula on previous consoles.

:lol:

more fail! =D

Official Gamespot Troll Review Form

Title of Troll Post: If Super Mario Galaxy Did Not Move Consoles Then What Will?
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Graedien

your argument has just one thing wrong with it: you assume that I am a troll when i am not.

[QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

Poor young SMG. It promised so much yet delivered so little

lord_aquinas

Hmmm...Variety stated that it had one of the worst two player experiences ever seen in a game. They also stated that the controls were poor and the gameplay was far too easy - a common problem on Nintendo consoles.

So some no name site says its not a great game and that immediatly discredits ever single major review site? I think not.

Well I agree with them. So that makes them ultra credible

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this is a joke thread. I'm leaving

[QUOTE="lord_aquinas"][QUOTE="laughingman42"]

1. Crystal ball

2. whatever

3. And the wii games you mentioned are suposed to be story driven?

laughingman42

I'm not a madden fan.

and yet madden still sells. I guess your opinion doesnt determine the rest of theof the gaming communities opinion.

does Madden move consoles?

your argument has just one thing wrong with it: you assume that I am a troll when i am not. lord_aquinas

Usually when someone says he's not a troll, he is one... so my analysis concludes that you're a troll.

Have a nice day, chief.

well people can't PROVE anything. But I showed why they are likely to not move consoles.

lord_aquinas

[QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

Poor young SMG. It promised so much yet delivered so little

lord_aquinas

Hmmm...Variety stated that it had one of the worst two player experiences ever seen in a game. They also stated that the controls were poor and the gameplay was far too easy - a common problem on Nintendo consoles.

So some no name site says its not a great game and that immediatly discredits ever single major review site? I think not.

Well I agree with them. So that makes them ultra credible

More like..........ULTRA STUPID!

[QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"][QUOTE="laughingman42"]

1. Crystal ball

2. whatever

3. And the wii games you mentioned are suposed to be story driven?

lord_aquinas

I'm not a madden fan.

and yet madden still sells. I guess your opinion doesnt determine the rest of theof the gaming communities opinion.

does Madden move consoles?

Hell yes. I know plenty of people that Xboxs, PS2s and/or 360s almost exclusively for madden and other sports games.

[QUOTE="lord_aquinas"][QUOTE="Gemini_Red"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"][QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

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I didn't know that you already saw numbers for SMG. As for future titles, there is SSBB.

Gemini_Red

Again. You're missing my point. (1.)PS3 has story driven games that are guaranteed to move consoles. (2.)That offer something new to gamers. (3.)SSBB is unreliable as it could flop, given gamers have played the same non sotry driven formula on previous consoles.

1. Yes they have done a great job of moving the consoles so far, haven't they? :roll:

2. Yeah, you know like Oblivion, Guitar Hero, Madden, Resistance...........braaaaaaaaaand new crap. Consider me wowed.

3. How much does Madden sell every year again? Where is the story there?

1. My point is that when those games are released - the PS3 will sell through the roof
2. ummm I just said GTA, Final Fantasy, God of War.
3. it's not intended to be a story driven game. People know this. Plus it's a multi-plat.

1. I'll believe it when I see it, sparky. It was supposed to sell through the roof once it was released too, but that didn't happen.

2. GTA, Final Fantasy, and God of War...........interesting. Isn't the complaint you had about Nintendo was the rehashing? Yet you choose a franchise that has been out for 20 years(Final Fantasy) another for 10(GTA) and another that will get it's third sequel before too long.

3. Yes, and people are going to be so surprised to find out that SSBB is not story driven. I can see the riots in the streets now once the truth is found out. Multi-plat or not, Madden still sells like crazy for not being a story driven game.

At this point you are just grasping for straws. Here is your Sony fanboy sticker, welcome to system wars and try to develop better arguements.

2. These games actually offer new maps, stories etc. compared to games like SSBB which does not offer really anything new apart from the use of the wiimote (in probably the same way as other games on the platform)

3. Madden doesn't move consoles.

I'm not a Sony fanboy.

[QUOTE="Graedien"]

Official Gamespot Troll Review Form

Title of Troll Post: If Super Mario Galaxy Did Not Move Consoles Then What Will?
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Gross Oversights committed by Troll: Wii is currently sold out, and as such nothing can "Move it"
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lord_aquinas

your argument has just one thing wrong with it: you assume that I am a troll when i am not.

He's not a troll, just ignorant.

[QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

your argument has just one thing wrong with it: you assume that I am a troll when i am not. TDLlama

Usually when someone says he's not a troll, he is one... so my analysis concludes that you're a troll.

Have a nice day, chief.

so are you a troll?

[QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

well people can't PROVE anything. But I showed why they are likely to not move consoles.

nintendofreak_2

System Wars is the place to compare one console to another. In fact I see a lot of pridiction and bet threads stickied on the forum. So i think this is the place to ask these question that WILL eventually be answered.

[QUOTE="lord_aquinas"][QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"][QUOTE="laughingman42"]

1. Crystal ball

2. whatever

3. And the wii games you mentioned are suposed to be story driven?

laughingman42

I'm not a madden fan.

and yet madden still sells. I guess your opinion doesnt determine the rest of theof the gaming communities opinion.

does Madden move consoles?

Hell yes. I know plenty of people that Xboxs, PS2s and/or 360s almost exclusively for madden and other sports games.

that REALLY move consoles? like in the way Halo moved consoles? GTA moved consoles?

[QUOTE="lord_aquinas"][QUOTE="Graedien"]

Official Gamespot Troll Review Form

Title of Troll Post: If Super Mario Galaxy Did Not Move Consoles Then What Will?
Validity of Troll's Arguement (out of 10): 0/10
Gross Oversights committed by Troll: Wii is currently sold out, and as such nothing can "Move it"
Troll's acknowledgement of his idiocy: Absolutely none.
Troll acknowledgement of counter-points provided by fellow members: Absolutely none
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Optusnet

your argument has just one thing wrong with it: you assume that I am a troll when i am not.

He's not a troll, just ignorant.

yay! another irrelevant post from a SW bully boy. you appear to be the ignorant one as I have detailed all my logical arguments for my ideas and you are yet to state yours.

[QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

And you think you could prove that those two games won't move consoles?

well people can't PROVE anything. But I showed why they are likely to not move consoles.

magiciandude

Assuming that you're a person as well, you're stating that you didn't prove anything either.

I never said I proved anything. I'm just making a logical argument.

HAHAHAHA everyone point and laught at the TC. *points and laughs*---OkeyDokey---

*joins in on the pointing and laughing*

To conclude this thread. The TC doesnt understand that you can not sell more of something that is already sold out. He thinks that one no name site and his opinion discredits the opinion of practically all major review sites and the majority of gamers opinions, he thinks that his opinion is shared by the rest of teh gaming community, he thinks he has a crystal ball, and he thinks that madden doesnt sell consoles. Did I miss anything?

EDIT: he thinks that his arguments are logical :lol:

HAHAHAHA everyone point and laught at the TC. *points and laughs*---OkeyDokey---

*points and laughs*

this is the most ignorant fanboy I have seen in quite a while. His posts do not have any shard of fact at all.

1. It is impossible to sell more of nothing.
2. Gamespot Review of Mario's Difficulty - "The difficulty doesn't start off terribly high, but as time goes on, the game ramps up nicely, building the challenge steadily until the final areas, which, though perhaps a bit frustrating to inexperienced players, provides the exact sort of tough workout you've come to expect from a Mario adventure."
3. Super Mario Galaxy sold over 500,000 in its first week (750,000 according to VGChartz.com) making it the fastest selling Mario title ever.
4. The top selling games usually never have a good story. Guitar Hero, Mario, Halo, and Madden. (some may argue with Halo's... but it really isn't that stunning of a story).

that REALLY move consoles? like in the way Halo moved consoles? GTA moved consoles?

lord_aquinas

According to EA they sold 7 million copies of madden across all consoles last year. Yea I think it moves consoles.

[QUOTE="Gemini_Red"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"][QUOTE="Gemini_Red"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"][QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

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I didn't know that you already saw numbers for SMG. As for future titles, there is SSBB.

lord_aquinas

Again. You're missing my point. (1.)PS3 has story driven games that are guaranteed to move consoles. (2.)That offer something new to gamers. (3.)SSBB is unreliable as it could flop, given gamers have played the same non sotry driven formula on previous consoles.

1. Yes they have done a great job of moving the consoles so far, haven't they? :roll:

2. Yeah, you know like Oblivion, Guitar Hero, Madden, Resistance...........braaaaaaaaaand new crap. Consider me wowed.

3. How much does Madden sell every year again? Where is the story there?

1. My point is that when those games are released - the PS3 will sell through the roof
2. ummm I just said GTA, Final Fantasy, God of War.
3. it's not intended to be a story driven game. People know this. Plus it's a multi-plat.

1. I'll believe it when I see it, sparky. It was supposed to sell through the roof once it was released too, but that didn't happen.

2. GTA, Final Fantasy, and God of War...........interesting. Isn't the complaint you had about Nintendo was the rehashing? Yet you choose a franchise that has been out for 20 years(Final Fantasy) another for 10(GTA) and another that will get it's third sequel before too long.

3. Yes, and people are going to be so surprised to find out that SSBB is not story driven. I can see the riots in the streets now once the truth is found out. Multi-plat or not, Madden still sells like crazy for not being a story driven game.

At this point you are just grasping for straws. Here is your Sony fanboy sticker, welcome to system wars and try to develop better arguements.

2. These games actually offer new maps, stories etc. compared to games like SSBB which does not offer really anything new apart from the use of the wiimote (in probably the same way as other games on the platform)

3. Madden doesn't move consoles.

I'm not a Sony fanboy.

2. SSBB is a fighter.....where are they supposed to stretch it? New charachters? Oh right, they did that. New battle areas? Check. New ways to knock off your opponent? Know of at least one. Fighter don't can only advance so far, and even with your examples the core gameplay has remained pretty constant in all of them, so your arguement here is still pretty flawed.

3. Hate to break it to you.....yeah, Madden sells systems.

Calls previously mentioned titles pretty much "fresh material" and Nintendo games rehashes, spouts how Sony is going to go through the roof once all the games hit............yep! Sounds like a fanboy to me.

[QUOTE="lord_aquinas"][QUOTE="Sk8nNotH8n"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

Poor young SMG. It promised so much yet delivered so little

Weslii

Hmmm...Variety stated that it had one of the worst two player experiences ever seen in a game.

*No they did not, your putting words in mouths.

They also stated that the controls were poor and the gameplay was far too easy *Did you just pull that outta your ***?

a common problem on Nintendo consoles. *Thats why all the top 5 highest rated games were on nintendo consoles.

let's keep the top rated games here plz: LOZ: OoT was an exception. But the majority of Nintendo games are far too easy. It's been mentioned in many Gamespot reviews over the years.

I realise that it was hard for some people because the controls were among the worst in the business.

yay! another irrelevant post from a SW bully boy. you appear to be the ignorant one as I have detailed all my logical arguments for my ideas and you are yet to state yours.

lord_aquinas

"logical arguments" - they are not logical at all

"my ideas" - ....seriously now... your ideas? :|

[QUOTE="lord_aquinas"][QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"][QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"][QUOTE="laughingman42"]

1. Crystal ball

2. whatever

3. And the wii games you mentioned are suposed to be story driven?

laughingman42

I'm not a madden fan.

and yet madden still sells. I guess your opinion doesnt determine the rest of theof the gaming communities opinion.

does Madden move consoles?

Hell yes. I know plenty of people that Xboxs, PS2s and/or 360s almost exclusively for madden and other sports games.

that REALLY move consoles? like in the way Halo moved consoles? GTA moved consoles?

According to EA they sold 7 million copies of madden across all consoles last year. Yea I think it moves consoles.

across all consoles - and most of the people i imagine owned one of those consoles already.

I realise that it was hard for some people because the controls were among the worst in the business.

lord_aquinas

You should play the game before you spew crap like that out off your butt.

across all consoles - and most of the people i imagine owned one of those consoles already.

lord_aquinas

I guess all of the people that own halo and GTA already owned consoles then.

[QUOTE="---OkeyDokey---"]HAHAHAHA everyone point and laught at the TC. *points and laughs*laughingman42

*joins in on the pointing and laughing*

To conclude this thread. The TC doesnt understand that you can not sell more of something that is already sold out. He thinks that one no name site and his opinion discredits the opinion of practically all major review sites and the majority of gamers opinions, he thinks that his opinion is shared by the rest of teh gaming community, he thinks he has a crystal ball, and he thinks that madden doesnt sell consoles. Did I miss anything?

*joins the laughter*

more Wii's? Answer: nothing.

lord_aquinas

*BUZZER*

WRONG!

Super Smash Bros. Brawl for everyone

and

Wii Fit for the casuals

I realise that it was hard for some people because the controls were among the worst in the business.

lord_aquinas

GameSpot Review -

"Controls work just about flawlessly in nearly every situation"

you were saying?

what is your next attack on Galaxy? It is impervious to just about everything.

[QUOTE="---OkeyDokey---"]HAHAHAHA everyone point and laught at the TC. *points and laughs*kansasdude2009

*points and laughs*

this is the most ignorant fanboy I have seen in quite a while. His posts do not have any shard of fact at all.

GTA has a good story. and it sold a lot

[QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

I realise that it was hard for some people because the controls were among the worst in the business.

kansasdude2009

GameSpot Review -

"Controls work just about flawlessly in nearly every situation"

you were saying?

what is your next attack on Galaxy? It is impervious to just about everything.

not all reviwes agree with this though

[QUOTE="kansasdude2009"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

I realise that it was hard for some people because the controls were among the worst in the business.

lord_aquinas

GameSpot Review -

"Controls work just about flawlessly in nearly every situation"

you were saying?

what is your next attack on Galaxy? It is impervious to just about everything.

not all reviwes agree with this though

like what? Give me a link to a credible source please.

Not to mention that this is Gamespot, and on Gamespot we go by Gamespot reviews. Is this a new concept to you? I don't personally like it all too much, but it is how we keep order.

here, i'll even give you a link to all reviews: the worst being a 9.0/10.

[QUOTE="kansasdude2009"]

[QUOTE="---OkeyDokey---"]HAHAHAHA everyone point and laught at the TC. *points and laughs*lord_aquinas

*points and laughs*

this is the most ignorant fanboy I have seen in quite a while. His posts do not have any shard of fact at all.

GTA has a good story. and it sold a lot

Non-sequitur.

[QUOTE="kansasdude2009"][QUOTE="lord_aquinas"]

I realise that it was hard for some people because the controls were among the worst in the business.

lord_aquinas

GameSpot Review -

"Controls work just about flawlessly in nearly every situation"

you were saying?

what is your next attack on Galaxy? It is impervious to just about everything.

not all reviwes agree with this though

what other reviews? variety? :|