If The PC Is A BAD Gaming Platform,...

[QUOTE="beldugo"]

oh hello there vandalvideo.. say hello to the people that say they log 200hrs+ on car simulation games on console. maybe console get too many games worth a purchase that they dont have time to get attach to games like you say pc do? its all up to the person man. its all up to the consumer what price they want to pay for a game.

 

all i know its that a console cost you 400 bucks and you never have to upgrade and last for 4yrs+, a pc you have to upgrade constantly every 2-3yrs, either processor, graphic cards, ram, hdd etc...

Vandalvideo

if i didn't have to upgrade my pc, can you explain to me why cant my 600 bucks pc run medievil 2 demo? 

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Beldugo: You seemed to TOTALLY ignore one huge prerequisite I stated. "Diverging content". With Marvel v. Capcom you're merely playing the same game over and over with no redeeming diverging content. Its basically replaying the same thing for now reason. With WoW, yuo have diverging, ever changing content for the ENTIRE 566+ hours.beldugo

thats all diversity. if mods its what make you tic congratulation, combinations and challenge its what makes me tic. ffxi is an mmorpg and its out for console too. phantasy star for console. i see what your trying to tell me im not ignoring it, its just that i dont agree with it its just an opinion. 

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="beldugo"]

oh hello there vandalvideo.. say hello to the people that say they log 200hrs+ on car simulation games on console. maybe console get too many games worth a purchase that they dont have time to get attach to games like you say pc do? its all up to the person man. its all up to the consumer what price they want to pay for a game.

 

all i know its that a console cost you 400 bucks and you never have to upgrade and last for 4yrs+, a pc you have to upgrade constantly every 2-3yrs, either processor, graphic cards, ram, hdd etc...

beldugo

if i didn't have to upgrade my pc, can you explain to me why cant my 600 bucks pc run medievil 2 demo? 

Treyofthedead: Whether or not its "more expensive to you" is a moot point. Thats something subejctive that changse from a case by case basis. I'm merely showing that in order to have PC and Consoles on the SAME PAGE consoles require MORE money over time than PCs. This is undeniable fact.Vandalvideo

 I understand. I wasn't disagreeing with your enitre argument, just how it relates to me personally.

Treyofthedead: Whether or not its "more expensive to you" is a moot point. Thats something subejctive that changse from a case by case basis. I'm merely showing that in order to have PC and Consoles on the SAME PAGE consoles require MORE money over time than PCs. This is undeniable fact.Vandalvideo

this is your opinion. i can buy a pc for 200 bucks a console for 200 bucks and buy 1 game for each for the next 10yrs if i wanted.

[QUOTE="beldugo"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Beldugo: You seemed to TOTALLY ignore one huge prerequisite I stated. "Diverging content". With Marvel v. Capcom you're merely playing the same game over and over with no redeeming diverging content. Its basically replaying the same thing for now reason. With WoW, yuo have diverging, ever changing content for the ENTIRE 566+ hours.Vandalvideo

thats all diversity. if mods its what make you tic congratulation, combinations and challenge its what makes me tic. ffxi is an mmorpg and its out for console too. phantasy star for console. i see what your trying to tell me im not ignoring it, its just that i dont agree with it its just an opinion.

wth didn't you read when i said ffxi is out for console. look me up on fenrir server name mrcaca .

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Treyofthedead: Whether or not its "more expensive to you" is a moot point. Thats something subejctive that changse from a case by case basis. I'm merely showing that in order to have PC and Consoles on the SAME PAGE consoles require MORE money over time than PCs. This is undeniable fact.beldugo

this is your opinion. i can buy a pc for 200 bucks a console for 200 bucks and buy 1 game for each for the next 10yrs if i wanted.

[QUOTE="TreyoftheDead"]PC gaming is great, I just don't have the money to be an active member of that particular gaming community. I'm a console gamer because I like the fact that when I buy a console, I know that I will be able to play every single game that is released for it that generation.beldugo

another guy that has money problem but has a console.. why do you think we see more of these people than pc people? don't you think their is something wrong with what your saying vandalvideo?

First time around is more expensive, but first time around HD Console gaming is even more expensive if you want a decent HD TV. so that aside.

Providing you reasearched your PC purchase, with a decent size case, standard model, you will be able to upgrade for years to come, Motherboard/Proscessor & Gcard are the only things really needed to swap, all of which in the UK at least u can get within the price of Xbox/PS3 budget, that will play all CURRENT games on max, except at the moment there is new techonology breakthroughs on the market (DX10 cards & Dual/Quad Core) when theyve settled down by the end of the year, it iwll be dirt cheap and future proof for 3-4 years.

Meanwhile no doubt your Xbox720 will be even more expensive that the current xbox360 to keep up with the times, and the higher price of games accumilate.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="beldugo"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Beldugo: You seemed to TOTALLY ignore one huge prerequisite I stated. "Diverging content". With Marvel v. Capcom you're merely playing the same game over and over with no redeeming diverging content. Its basically replaying the same thing for now reason. With WoW, yuo have diverging, ever changing content for the ENTIRE 566+ hours.beldugo

thats all diversity. if mods its what make you tic congratulation, combinations and challenge its what makes me tic. ffxi is an mmorpg and its out for console too. phantasy star for console. i see what your trying to tell me im not ignoring it, its just that i dont agree with it its just an opinion.

wth didn't you read when i said ffxi is out for console. look me up on fenrir server name mrcaca .

All i have to say is this. when it comes to consoles doing other things. i think of a episode of furturama were the professor makes a huge machine that makes glow in the dark noses to put over your regular nose and later on he is given a letter in alien writen and puts it into the machine. fry says "hey isn't that the machine that makes noses?" and the professor replys " IT CAN DO OTHER THINGS WHY SHOULDN'T IT!"

why should consoles do other things. wouldn't hurt.

[QUOTE="beldugo"]

[QUOTE="TreyoftheDead"]PC gaming is great, I just don't have the money to be an active member of that particular gaming community. I'm a console gamer because I like the fact that when I buy a console, I know that I will be able to play every single game that is released for it that generation.Meu2k7

another guy that has money problem but has a console.. why do you think we see more of these people than pc people? don't you think their is something wrong with what your saying vandalvideo?

First time around is more expensive, but first time around HD Console gaming is even more expensive if you want a decent HD TV. so that aside.

Providing you reasearched your PC purchase, with a decent size case, standard model, you will be able to upgrade for years to come, Motherboard/Proscessor & Gcard are the only things really needed to swap, all of which in the UK at least u can get within the price of Xbox/PS3 budget, that will play all CURRENT games on max, except at the moment there is new techonology breakthroughs on the market (DX10 cards & Dual/Quad Core) when theyve settled down by the end of the year, it iwll be dirt cheap and future proof for 3-4 years.

Meanwhile no doubt your Xbox720 will be even more expensive that the current xbox360 to keep up with the times, and the higher price of games accumilate.

dont know about ps3 but if you want HD picture you buy a monitor cable to go on your lcd screen. see the same option that are out there for pc is also out there for consoles.

dont have monitor cable for ps3? buy a tv-in card and play your console there. want cheap games on console? buy use games, easier to find localy.  

funny thing is you first say with pc people log 500hr+ on stuff but i show you on console people log 500+hr too and then you talk about content on WoW..

i tell you ffxi its also an mmorpg for console and its better than WoW but thats just another opinion.

if i buy a 600 buck pc i can't play new pc games but you call me a horrible shopper. when i buy a console for what is worth i don't even have to deal with doing a horrible shopping, i can get the game for pc and console at the same price.

my local video game stores dont carry use pc games btw.   does are facts man, deal with it. seriously you need to stop been a fanboy and just be a gamer.

[QUOTE="beldugo"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="beldugo"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Beldugo: You seemed to TOTALLY ignore one huge prerequisite I stated. "Diverging content". With Marvel v. Capcom you're merely playing the same game over and over with no redeeming diverging content. Its basically replaying the same thing for now reason. With WoW, yuo have diverging, ever changing content for the ENTIRE 566+ hours.Vandalvideo

thats all diversity. if mods its what make you tic congratulation, combinations and challenge its what makes me tic. ffxi is an mmorpg and its out for console too. phantasy star for console. i see what your trying to tell me im not ignoring it, its just that i dont agree with it its just an opinion.

wth didn't you read when i said ffxi is out for console. look me up on fenrir server name mrcaca .

content is not a viable thing to say. gears of war is getting new content like new multiplayer maps, lost planet new maps, sonic new modes of play, oblivion new official expansion patch.

like i said before mods dont cut it for me because their not official, if that makes you tic then congratulation but it doesn't make me tic. 

funny thing is you first say with pc people log 500hr+ on stuff but i show you on console people log 500+hr too and then you talk about content on WoW..

i tell you ffxi its also an mmorpg for console and its better than WoW but thats just another opinion.

if i buy a 600 buck pc i can't play new pc games but you call me a horrible shopper. when i buy a console for what is worth i don't even have to deal with doing a horrible shopping, i can get the game for pc and console at the same price.

my local video game stores dont carry use pc games btw. does are facts man, deal with it. seriously you need to stop been a fanboy and just be a gamer.

 

beldugo

FFXI on the consoles failed in comparison , and that game is nearly dead, I know I played it for a year, excellent PvE content and better class/world designs that WoW, but the nasty Time-sinks were way to harsh.

http://amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_w_h_/026-1118769-7122050?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Rainbow+six&Go.x=0&Go.y=0&Go=Go

Example of NORMAL price differences between PC and Xbox Gaming, double the price even on release in most cases. 

All those PC-vs-Console arguments end up with consolers bringing up the price factor and starting to yell that PC gaming is that much more expensive. Well, guess what? It's only natural that better things cost more money. It's like complaining about Ferraris costing too much, thus, somehow, being terrible. Besides, I even won't mention the more expensive games, accessories and, for the 360, paid multiplayer here.

All I can say is that I'll be upgrading my PC to one of the high-end R600s and then I'll just laugh at how primitive do the visuals on my 360 look in comparison. If price is the only important factor to you when choosing a gaming platform, you shouldn't be calling yourself a gamer.

[QUOTE="beldugo"]

funny thing is you first say with pc people log 500hr+ on stuff but i show you on console people log 500+hr too and then you talk about content on WoW..

i tell you ffxi its also an mmorpg for console and its better than WoW but thats just another opinion.

if i buy a 600 buck pc i can't play new pc games but you call me a horrible shopper. when i buy a console for what is worth i don't even have to deal with doing a horrible shopping, i can get the game for pc and console at the same price.

my local video game stores dont carry use pc games btw. does are facts man, deal with it. seriously you need to stop been a fanboy and just be a gamer.

 

Meu2k7

FFXI on the consoles failed in comparison , and that game is nearly dead, I know I played it for a year, excellent PvE content and better class/world designs that WoW, but the nasty Time-sinks were way to harsh.

http://amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_w_h_/026-1118769-7122050?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Rainbow+six&Go.x=0&Go.y=0&Go=Go

Example of NORMAL price differences between PC and Xbox Gaming, double the price even on release in most cases.

ffxi on 360 is great, ps1 for them is just as great, the game has like the most subscriber its #3 on the list i think #1 is WoW? game takes too much time to complete but im still in it.

don't go on pricing again please me and vandal just discuss this for 6 pages lol. 

All those PC-vs-Console arguments end up with consolers bringing up the price factor and starting to yell that PC gaming is that much more expensive. Well, guess what? It's only natural that better things cost more money. It's like complaining about Ferraris costing too much, thus, somehow, being terrible. Besides, I even won't mention the more expensive games, accessories and, for the 360, paid multiplayer here.

All I can say is that I'll be upgrading my PC to one of the high-end R600s and then I'll just laugh at how primitive do the visuals on my 360 look in comparison. If price is the only important factor to you when choosing a gaming platform, you shouldn't be calling yourself a gamer.

Core0

important factor are the games like mass effect, lost odesey, blue dragon, ninja gaiden, gears, dead rising. you know does.... oh wait let me also add does that my current pc can't run at full graphics or does that give me achievements on 360 and not pc.  you know why i named does games though right? none of them are coming to pc that we know off.

console is as important as PC is. no matter how powerful you upgrade you will always need your console, specially your 360 that connects with windows :) . unless your not a gamer. 

important factor are the games like mass effect, lost odesey, blue dragon, ninja gaiden, gears, dead rising. you know does.... oh wait let me also add does that my current pc can't run at full graphics or does that give me achievements on 360 and not pc. you know why i named does games though right? none of them are coming to pc that we know off.

console is as important as PC is. no matter how powerful you upgrade you will always need your console, specially your 360 that connects with windows :) . unless your not a gamer.

beldugo

[QUOTE="Core0"]

All those PC-vs-Console arguments end up with consolers bringing up the price factor and starting to yell that PC gaming is that much more expensive. Well, guess what? It's only natural that better things cost more money. It's like complaining about Ferraris costing too much, thus, somehow, being terrible. Besides, I even won't mention the more expensive games, accessories and, for the 360, paid multiplayer here.

All I can say is that I'll be upgrading my PC to one of the high-end R600s and then I'll just laugh at how primitive do the visuals on my 360 look in comparison. If price is the only important factor to you when choosing a gaming platform, you shouldn't be calling yourself a gamer.

beldugo

important factor are the games like mass effect, lost odesey, blue dragon, ninja gaiden, gears, dead rising. you know does.... oh wait let me also add does that my current pc can't run at full graphics or does that give me achievements on 360 and not pc. you know why i named does games though right? none of them are coming to pc that we know off.

console is as important as PC is. no matter how powerful you upgrade you will always need your console, specially your 360 that connects with windows :) . unless your not a gamer.

Actually last night there was a poll and debate about which console would be best suited to go with PC users, Wii won by a land-slide Xbox360 didnt, why? because the siilly little gimmick link-ups are not worth it because the Library is already so similar, its just na unescarry add-on.

 While Wii & PS3 are more Japanese orientated and would give a much larger library of games that the PC players will not get to experiance otherwise.

Gears of War, Mass Effect, Halo 2/3 , Fable 1/2 ... we are getting those. 

99.9% of the reasons console fanboys say PC gaming is worse are misconceptions based from ignorance of the platform. The PC can be anything you bloody well want it to be. It has the most high quality titles, can use gamepads, can hook up to your console set up, and pretty much provide the same experience with multiplayer split screen; While offering afforable prices that over time may be cheaper.Vandalvideo

I can go out *today* and buy Gears of War, Halo 2, PGR3, Dead Rising, Final Fantasy X, God of War II, Kingdom Hearts 2, Twilight Princess and Super Paper Mario.

You cannot run *any* of those games on a PC, in a few months Halo 2, in a few years Gears of War, everything else, not at all. End of story. Unless you're going to try and pretend ROMs are legal?

There are hundreds of amazing games such as Disgaea, FF XII, God of War II, Gears of War, et cetera that you simply cannot play on a PC. Eternal Darkness PC? Nope. Time Crisis PC? Nope. Tekken 6 PC? Nope. Motorstorm PC? Nope.

There seems to be a trend here... all the games I want to play are on consoles. And I own a gaming PC - every game I wound up buying on PC (Halo CE, Doom 3, Oblivion, Psychonauts, Sims 2, et cetera) wound up on a console. The only game that I purchased that wasn't later made available on a console was Amercian McGee's Alice, and I need not have built a gaming PC for that.

I can go out *today* and buy Gears of War, Halo 2, PGR3, Dead Rising, Final Fantasy X, God of War II, Kingdom Hearts 2, Twilight Princess and Super Paper Mario.

You cannot run *any* of those games on a PC, in a few months Halo 2, in a few years Gears of War, everything else, not at all. End of story. Unless you're going to try and pretend ROMs are legal?

There are hundreds of amazing games such as Disgaea, FF XII, God of War II, Gears of War, et cetera that you simply cannot play on a PC. Eternal Darkness PC? Nope. Time Crisis PC? Nope. Tekken 6 PC? Nope. Motorstorm PC? Nope.

There seems to be a trend here... all the games I want to play are on consoles. And I own a gaming PC - every game I wound up buying on PC (Halo CE, Doom 3, Oblivion, Psychonauts, Sims 2, et cetera) wound up on a console. The only game that I purchased that wasn't later made available on a console was Amercian McGee's Alice, and I need not have built a gaming PC for that.

subrosian

Not arguing with you, just saying. 

PC gamin is awesome.

ArisShadows

funny thing is you first say with pc people log 500hr+ on stuff but i show you on console people log 500+hr too and then you talk about content on WoW..

i tell you ffxi its also an mmorpg for console and its better than WoW but thats just another opinion.

if i buy a 600 buck pc i can't play new pc games but you call me a horrible shopper. when i buy a console for what is worth i don't even have to deal with doing a horrible shopping, i can get the game for pc and console at the same price.

my local video game stores dont carry use pc games btw.   does are facts man, deal with it. seriously you need to stop been a fanboy and just be a gamer.

 

beldugo

 in a few months Halo 2 

subrosian

[QUOTE="beldugo"]

funny thing is you first say with pc people log 500hr+ on stuff but i show you on console people log 500+hr too and then you talk about content on WoW..

i tell you ffxi its also an mmorpg for console and its better than WoW but thats just another opinion.

if i buy a 600 buck pc i can't play new pc games but you call me a horrible shopper. when i buy a console for what is worth i don't even have to deal with doing a horrible shopping, i can get the game for pc and console at the same price.

my local video game stores dont carry use pc games btw.   does are facts man, deal with it. seriously you need to stop been a fanboy and just be a gamer.

 

Titan_of_NYC

 I'm not going to slam PC gaming. I'm currently playing Deus Ex and Colonization. Also the sim games I love like Rollar Coaster Tycoon and Civilization never translate well to consoles...

[QUOTE="Jagazaar"]

While I love my console games, there's just no question that the PC is a superior system, for games and otherwise. There are some awesome games for consoles that for control reasons I can't imagine playing on a PC (Devil May Cry, Legend of Zelda, etc), but they're mainly the exception rather than the rule. I think a large amount of people just like consoles because they're quicker and easily accessible, you don't need to know stuff about specs and such. Makes things much easier for casuals in particular.

The only major, standout drawback to PC gaming in my opinion is the fact that it's worlds easier to pirate games on computer than on consoles, which hurts developers significantly.

Vandalvideo

WRONG.

How is downloading a game from some website or bittorrent easy ( or cheap ) compared to buying a modchip, opening up your console's case, installing and soddering points on the consoles mobo, flashing dvd drive's firmware/hard drive/ what ever else, and + downloading a game from some website or bittorent site ?

 

WRONG.

How is downloading a game from some website or bittorrent easy ( or cheap ) compared to buying a modchip, opening up your console's case, installing and soddering points on the consoles mobo, flashing dvd drive's firmware/hard drive/ what ever else, and + downloading a game from some website or bittorent site ?

shaggymcp

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Jagazaar"]

While I love my console games, there's just no question that the PC is a superior system, for games and otherwise. There are some awesome games for consoles that for control reasons I can't imagine playing on a PC (Devil May Cry, Legend of Zelda, etc), but they're mainly the exception rather than the rule. I think a large amount of people just like consoles because they're quicker and easily accessible, you don't need to know stuff about specs and such. Makes things much easier for casuals in particular.

The only major, standout drawback to PC gaming in my opinion is the fact that it's worlds easier to pirate games on computer than on consoles, which hurts developers significantly.

shaggymcp

WRONG.

How is downloading a game from some website or bittorrent easy ( or cheap ) compared to buying a modchip, opening up your console's case, installing and soddering points on the consoles mobo, flashing dvd drive's firmware/hard drive/ what ever else, and + downloading a game from some website or bittorent site ?

It's easier on PC but it's still pretty damn easy to do on consoles(specially the xobx 360). Also most of the people who have moded consoles have "bought" them already moded by someone else. Now all the have to do is download the games like on PC.

[QUOTE="beldugo"][QUOTE="Core0"]

All those PC-vs-Console arguments end up with consolers bringing up the price factor and starting to yell that PC gaming is that much more expensive. Well, guess what? It's only natural that better things cost more money. It's like complaining about Ferraris costing too much, thus, somehow, being terrible. Besides, I even won't mention the more expensive games, accessories and, for the 360, paid multiplayer here.

All I can say is that I'll be upgrading my PC to one of the high-end R600s and then I'll just laugh at how primitive do the visuals on my 360 look in comparison. If price is the only important factor to you when choosing a gaming platform, you shouldn't be calling yourself a gamer.

Meu2k7

important factor are the games like mass effect, lost odesey, blue dragon, ninja gaiden, gears, dead rising. you know does.... oh wait let me also add does that my current pc can't run at full graphics or does that give me achievements on 360 and not pc. you know why i named does games though right? none of them are coming to pc that we know off.

console is as important as PC is. no matter how powerful you upgrade you will always need your console, specially your 360 that connects with windows :) . unless your not a gamer.

Actually last night there was a poll and debate about which console would be best suited to go with PC users, Wii won by a land-slide Xbox360 didnt, why? because the siilly little gimmick link-ups are not worth it because the Library is already so similar, its just na unescarry add-on.

 While Wii & PS3 are more Japanese orientated and would give a much larger library of games that the PC players will not get to experiance otherwise.

Gears of War, Mass Effect, Halo 2/3 , Fable 1/2 ... we are getting those. 

hey if japanese games make you tic thats fine... for me what makes me tic are good games... i dont care if they are indian or whatever. poll are opinions is not an actual fact. i think you be better off with a 360 if you have a gaming pc. why? so you can get does lovely games that are coming out sooner. no waiting :) . ps3 i dont like because of price but its doing way better than wii.

i rather you buy a ps3 than a wii.. why ? because for me wii is a gimmick. but hey this is just my opinion too.

[QUOTE="beldugo"]

important factor are the games like mass effect, lost odesey, blue dragon, ninja gaiden, gears, dead rising. you know does.... oh wait let me also add does that my current pc can't run at full graphics or does that give me achievements on 360 and not pc. you know why i named does games though right? none of them are coming to pc that we know off.

console is as important as PC is. no matter how powerful you upgrade you will always need your console, specially your 360 that connects with windows :) . unless your not a gamer.

Core0

see Meu2k7? thats what you should do too. what do you think of the new announce too human? it looks great right? looks just like diabolo or beter to be exact, the game almost every hardcore pc gamer praise.

 actually thinking about it, it looks way better than hellgate london.

I use my 360 for gaming, and my PC for everything else.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]99.9% of the reasons console fanboys say PC gaming is worse are misconceptions based from ignorance of the platform. The PC can be anything you bloody well want it to be. It has the most high quality titles, can use gamepads, can hook up to your console set up, and pretty much provide the same experience with multiplayer split screen; While offering afforable prices that over time may be cheaper.subrosian

I can go out *today* and buy Gears of War, Halo 2, PGR3, Dead Rising, Final Fantasy X, God of War II, Kingdom Hearts 2, Twilight Princess and Super Paper Mario.

You cannot run *any* of those games on a PC, in a few months Halo 2, in a few years Gears of War, everything else, not at all. End of story. Unless you're going to try and pretend ROMs are legal?

There are hundreds of amazing games such as Disgaea, FF XII, God of War II, Gears of War, et cetera that you simply cannot play on a PC. Eternal Darkness PC? Nope. Time Crisis PC? Nope. Tekken 6 PC? Nope. Motorstorm PC? Nope.

There seems to be a trend here... all the games I want to play are on consoles. And I own a gaming PC - every game I wound up buying on PC (Halo CE, Doom 3, Oblivion, Psychonauts, Sims 2, et cetera) wound up on a console. The only game that I purchased that wasn't later made available on a console was Amercian McGee's Alice, and I need not have built a gaming PC for that.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="beldugo"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="beldugo"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Beldugo: You seemed to TOTALLY ignore one huge prerequisite I stated. "Diverging content". With Marvel v. Capcom you're merely playing the same game over and over with no redeeming diverging content. Its basically replaying the same thing for now reason. With WoW, yuo have diverging, ever changing content for the ENTIRE 566+ hours.beldugo

thats all diversity. if mods its what make you tic congratulation, combinations and challenge its what makes me tic. ffxi is an mmorpg and its out for console too. phantasy star for console. i see what your trying to tell me im not ignoring it, its just that i dont agree with it its just an opinion.

wth didn't you read when i said ffxi is out for console. look me up on fenrir server name mrcaca .

content is not a viable thing to say. gears of war is getting new content like new multiplayer maps, lost planet new maps, sonic new modes of play, oblivion new official expansion patch.

like i said before mods dont cut it for me because their not official, if that makes you tic then congratulation but it doesn't make me tic. 

If the PC is a bad gaming platform, why is that consoles mimic it as times goes on?
Online service, Web browsing, Hard drive, Movie services, Music services, Communication with other players, etc. etc.
I see people slamming the PC (price, "lack" of games, "poor" control) - yet the are slamming the very same thing their consoles are trying to copy.Titan_of_NYC

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Jagazaar"]

While I love my console games, there's just no question that the PC is a superior system, for games and otherwise. There are some awesome games for consoles that for control reasons I can't imagine playing on a PC (Devil May Cry, Legend of Zelda, etc), but they're mainly the exception rather than the rule. I think a large amount of people just like consoles because they're quicker and easily accessible, you don't need to know stuff about specs and such. Makes things much easier for casuals in particular.

The only major, standout drawback to PC gaming in my opinion is the fact that it's worlds easier to pirate games on computer than on consoles, which hurts developers significantly.

shaggymcp

WRONG.

How is downloading a game from some website or bittorrent easy ( or cheap ) compared to buying a modchip, opening up your console's case, installing and soddering points on the consoles mobo, flashing dvd drive's firmware/hard drive/ what ever else, and + downloading a game from some website or bittorent site ?

[QUOTE="Titan_of_NYC"]If the PC is a bad gaming platform, why is that consoles mimic it as times goes on?
Online service, Web browsing, Hard drive, Movie services, Music services, Communication with other players, etc. etc.
I see people slamming the PC (price, "lack" of games, "poor" control) - yet the are slamming the very same thing their consoles are trying to copy.AfterShafter

PCs aren't just "leaning" towards plug and play. You can BUILD an ENTIRELY plug and play PC.Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]PCs aren't just "leaning" towards plug and play. You can BUILD an ENTIRELY plug and play PC.AfterShafter

[QUOTE="shaggymcp"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Jagazaar"]

While I love my console games, there's just no question that the PC is a superior system, for games and otherwise. There are some awesome games for consoles that for control reasons I can't imagine playing on a PC (Devil May Cry, Legend of Zelda, etc), but they're mainly the exception rather than the rule. I think a large amount of people just like consoles because they're quicker and easily accessible, you don't need to know stuff about specs and such. Makes things much easier for casuals in particular.

The only major, standout drawback to PC gaming in my opinion is the fact that it's worlds easier to pirate games on computer than on consoles, which hurts developers significantly.

Vandalvideo

WRONG.

How is downloading a game from some website or bittorrent easy ( or cheap ) compared to buying a modchip, opening up your console's case, installing and soddering points on the consoles mobo, flashing dvd drive's firmware/hard drive/ what ever else, and + downloading a game from some website or bittorent site ?

Lets not forget the case of RIAA and FBI getting their hands on you using warez...

Whilst on console you can rent copy and play as long as you want...SAFE 100% 

No one said you had to do it yourself. Geek squad is more than happy to assemble your PC. Not that hard.Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="beldugo"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="beldugo"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="beldugo"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Beldugo: You seemed to TOTALLY ignore one huge prerequisite I stated. "Diverging content". With Marvel v. Capcom you're merely playing the same game over and over with no redeeming diverging content. Its basically replaying the same thing for now reason. With WoW, yuo have diverging, ever changing content for the ENTIRE 566+ hours.Vandalvideo

thats all diversity. if mods its what make you tic congratulation, combinations and challenge its what makes me tic. ffxi is an mmorpg and its out for console too. phantasy star for console. i see what your trying to tell me im not ignoring it, its just that i dont agree with it its just an opinion.

wth didn't you read when i said ffxi is out for console. look me up on fenrir server name mrcaca .

content is not a viable thing to say. gears of war is getting new content like new multiplayer maps, lost planet new maps, sonic new modes of play, oblivion new official expansion patch.

like i said before mods dont cut it for me because their not official, if that makes you tic then congratulation but it doesn't make me tic. 

thats a bad thing to say.. its like saying my skinny girlfriend is shallow while my fat girlfriend is not.

it all depends on your taste or definition of whats shallow to you, all i know is 4 new maps for gears of war is a great update... an update is an update no matter what, new update, new content all great, everyone happy. 

still im not saying pc is bad, im saying their both as important, but your saying consoles are bad, i dont know why but we all know you love pc but stop been a fanboy.

[QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]PCs aren't just "leaning" towards plug and play. You can BUILD an ENTIRELY plug and play PC.Vandalvideo

except Geek Squad would probally cost you a arm and a leg... or two. thats why you either look online to find instructions or ask around for help.  Its very useful to know that you can build your own computer in the long run as well.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] No one said you had to do it yourself. Geek squad is more than happy to assemble your PC. Not that hard.AfterShafter

[QUOTE="AfterShafter"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] No one said you had to do it yourself. Geek squad is more than happy to assemble your PC. Not that hard.Vandalvideo

 Who needs geeksquad? Just get a prebuilt PC with C2D6300 and PCIE mobo and install a 8600Ultra...even a complete idiot can do that...

Its 90 dollars instore.Vandalvideo

 Hey, if you don't get up-in-arms to my saying this:

"I know you're going to pop a blood vessel over this statement, but as someone with 20+ years PC/console gaming experience, I see quite clearly that PC gaming isn't as easy to get into as console gaming yet."

I'm fine.  Surprises me considering your past history.  PC gaming isn't as tough as many console gamers make it out to be, but it's also not as easy to get into/keep going with as console gaming is yet.  I'd be happy if people on both sides would concede to these points rather than flipping out any time someone suggests something good or bad about the respective platforms.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Its 90 dollars instore.AfterShafter

 Hey, if you don't get up-in-arms to my saying this:

"I know you're going to pop a blood vessel over this statement, but as someone with 20+ years PC/console gaming experience, I see quite clearly that PC gaming isn't as easy to get into as console gaming yet."

I'm fine.  Surprises me considering your past history.  PC gaming isn't as tough as many console gamers make it out to be, but it's also not as easy to get into/keep going with as console gaming is yet.  I'd be happy if people on both sides would concede to these points rather than flipping out any time someone suggests something good or bad about the respective platforms.

Why get up in arms when I've made my point abuntantly clear that you can build or obtain a PC that is as easy to use as a console? Whether or not you have heard of these options isn't an excuse.Vandalvideo